NY 184: a help (done)

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VOTE: RC

50% scum read 50% policy

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Matt has good points about bulge.

I still think rc is the better vote though. I like getting out of rvs quickly but to hang onto a straw grasp for that long is not town motivated

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Bulge/rc/?? scumteam

who's with me

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Oh fuck it bulge/rc/pisskop scumteam

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I'm still baffled that anyone other than rc is trying to make a scum case on jake

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It's more the fact that everyone is using it as a convenient diversion to avoid addressing me and Jake.

Id rather put a bullet through both of your heads.

Please do

I'm assuming you're willing to trade yourself for an rc death. Why is this so?

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So a 1v1 implies a trade?

I'm so lost

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We arent lynching you because RC makes you uncomfortable.

I understand where you're coming from here but I'm quoting it and vote parking you when rc flips scum

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Holy shit rc do you know what a sample size is

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That being said I'm starting to think some kind of scum v. scum multiball with this tunneling

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Governments fucking suck

How the hell do you think UPS can compete with the post office. Their prices aren't kicking much ass....

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Lol

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This thread has a bad case of 4-chan logic

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I rest my case

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Lost that's the best you've got

From memory at least two of those are out of context

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When you start pulling dictionary definitions that's when the argument has lost meaning

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Jake no comment on my Disagree/Agree post?

Why are you encouraging more commentary on the issue

While I'm at it I'm not reading that post

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As far as multiball is concerned both jake and rc are scummy scum sacks. If you're going to bitch about a multiball post without offering any legit opinion that we're experiencing a bus I can't see another logical conclusion

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Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous.

Even after glazing over the vast majority of the posts from JFSF and RC, I'm coming out feeling more town on Jake. I'm still not certain on RC, but I'm actually leaning more scum. I can't remember exactly who said it, and at this time I'm WAY too lazy to go hunt it down, but someone said something to the effect of "you guys aren't doing anything to further the game. We get that you think each other are scummy, but at this point it's anti-town to keep this yelling going." IIRC, RC's next post was sidestepping the argument with JFSF, and it felt kind of forced, which is why he pinged my scumdar. If anyone wants me to not be lazy and hunt this down, I will, but I'm lazy. I legitimately hate taking this stance because I don't want JFSF to jump up and down squealing going "SOMEONE BELIEVES ME" when in all honestly it was nothing that he said that brought me to this conclusion.

I'm not sure what the fuck Flubber is doing, but it did come off as scummy to me. He even had a post that was "I'm so lost." The only reason that stood out to me is because when I first started playing mafia F2F I would say that any time I was scum to prevent myself from having to actually give reads. That being said, I don't know what Flubber's experience is, and frankly I'm not sure that I care, but I just thought it was pretty interesting to note.

mattP rubs me wrong (OHAI MATT). He makes one "good" post and it feels like the rest of his posts have been "i'm gud guize" or commenting on JFSF distracting from the actual game, which in turn distracts from the actual game. So yeah. Not saying that he's scum, but ::feeeeeeelings::

p.much errbody else is just... I don't fucking know. Three rl days and this game is a perfect analogy for shit. So for the time being, my best bet is this.

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I'll actually go back and look into other people later, but these stood out to me for now. I did mostly read this with the mindset of "JFSFvRC is happening right now" so that was I guess what I was looking for, so I'll do a reread (probably tomorrow honestly) looking into other people.

You took my "I'm so lost" comment out of context. It was in direct response to a miscommunication with jake, not a proclamation of general confusion.

Explain to me how "I'm so lost" != "Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous."

Your read on matt is a load of shit and makes no comment to his push on the bulge

You have a strong need to self-affirm

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You really think 347 is defensive

You should be more concerned at how calm I am right now because I've had a shit day and am slightly afraid that I haven't even contemplated killing someone yet

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Have you tried actually reading that shitfest. For the most part I haven't

epm gets props

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You really think 347 is defensive

You should be more concerned at how calm I am right now because I've had a shit day and am slightly afraid that I haven't even contemplated killing someone yet

I don't think it's defensive, it's a tactical vote because I'm scum and I know you're town so that's my excuse for the vote.

Right?

Then which post was 348 in reference to

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^^ do something productive?

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Rc the worst part is that you could make an actual scum case on him right now and aren't

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Ugh. I was gonna catch up and post content and all that good shit but then I read RC's latest posts and I am really not in the mood.

Later tonight. I'm free all day today and tomorrow.

What inspired you to read through that dread in the first place?

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VOTE: bulge

rc gets townpoints for not hopping on my wagon

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With brains like those, Flubber, not surprising you got endgamed in 182 on a lynch that you were the first town to vote on.

I mean, "could make an actual scum case" implies that making a scum case is the important act, like la dee dah I'm going to make a scum case on this guy as if the act of making the scum case is the important thing.

Not a search for scum.

Seems like the mentality of someone who knows that they're on the only scum team.

That's actually a ridiculous mentality slip.

So you're antagonizing grim for scum reading you? How is that town in any manner?

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Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous.

Even after glazing over the vast majority of the posts from JFSF and RC, I'm coming out feeling more town on Jake. I'm still not certain on RC, but I'm actually leaning more scum. I can't remember exactly who said it, and at this time I'm WAY too lazy to go hunt it down, but someone said something to the effect of "you guys aren't doing anything to further the game. We get that you think each other are scummy, but at this point it's anti-town to keep this yelling going." IIRC, RC's next post was sidestepping the argument with JFSF, and it felt kind of forced, which is why he pinged my scumdar. If anyone wants me to not be lazy and hunt this down, I will, but I'm lazy. I legitimately hate taking this stance because I don't want JFSF to jump up and down squealing going "SOMEONE BELIEVES ME" when in all honestly it was nothing that he said that brought me to this conclusion.

I'm not sure what the fuck Flubber is doing, but it did come off as scummy to me. He even had a post that was "I'm so lost." The only reason that stood out to me is because when I first started playing mafia F2F I would say that any time I was scum to prevent myself from having to actually give reads. That being said, I don't know what Flubber's experience is, and frankly I'm not sure that I care, but I just thought it was pretty interesting to note.

mattP rubs me wrong (OHAI MATT). He makes one "good" post and it feels like the rest of his posts have been "i'm gud guize" or commenting on JFSF distracting from the actual game, which in turn distracts from the actual game. So yeah. Not saying that he's scum, but ::feeeeeeelings::

p.much errbody else is just... I don't fucking know. Three rl days and this game is a perfect analogy for shit. So for the time being, my best bet is this.

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I'll actually go back and look into other people later, but these stood out to me for now. I did mostly read this with the mindset of "JFSFvRC is happening right now" so that was I guess what I was looking for, so I'll do a reread (probably tomorrow honestly) looking into other people.

You took my "I'm so lost" comment out of context. It was in direct response to a miscommunication with jake, not a proclamation of general confusion.

Explain to me how "I'm so lost" != "Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous."

Your read on matt is a load of shit and makes no comment to his push on the bulge

You have a strong need to self-affirm

I already made a scum case on grim but I'm just a vi so ignoing it at one's personal will is pro-town

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But luckily, you're a good player, so your lack of reading comprehension is acceptable.

I never had an intention for anyone to push Oversoul. I think they're town

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You took my "I'm so lost" comment out of context. It was in direct response to a miscommunication with jake, not a proclamation of general confusion.

Explain to me how "I'm so lost" != "Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous."

Your read on matt is a load of shit and makes no comment to his push on the bulge

You have a strong need to self-affirm

I already made a scum case on grim but I'm just a vi so ignoing it at one's personal will is pro-town

1st and 2nd line are self defense with a useless question
3rd line isa contentless (and over-the-top, I had posted barely at all so you being SO ridiculously on-my-side is bizarre) and lacks depth
4th line is useless
And you never vote him.

why is it hard to believe I thought rc was scummier than grimm?

If I'm defending myself doesn't that imply there's poor reasoning on behalf of the attacker? which alignment is more likely to have poor reasoning? And what alignment would be more likely to reassure themselves? Probably the alignment that has to make statements that are wrong...

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Yeah you were voting me over an oversoul post

I never fucking made

by your own admission my posts are open to interpretation. why did you jump to scumread instead of requesting clarification?

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Yeah you were voting me over an oversoul post

I never fucking made

by your own admission my posts are open to interpretation. why did you jump to scumread instead of requesting clarification?

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Feel's good to be ninja'd

those posts were directed at matt

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Rc the worst part is that you could make an actual scum case on him right now and aren't

Why did you say RC could make a case on OS if you yourself didn't think OS wasnt scum

This is just the worst thing I've ever seen

I never asked rc to make a case on OS

I asked rc to make a case on grimm. The player he was antagonizing and shouting at but suspiciously not calling scum

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Bulge wagon was weak. But I'm curious as to why he's been a complete noninfluence on the game thus far.

Well a decent runup on him could change that but oh well

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Yeah you were voting me over an oversoul post

I never fucking made

by your own admission my posts are open to interpretation. why did you jump to scumread instead of requesting clarification?

Did you clarify yet? Or are you too busy trying to spread you ichorous hate. Thou hast been afflicted by the scumz, and the only treatment I can reccomend for you forthwhence is a rope to massage the neck.

Hey tell me what to clarify and I will

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I can show you a fucked push I made on tammy like that if it makes you feel better

It's nbd

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I was really proud of myself for not being a total dick through this whole thing

Pls don't ruin it

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Oversoul I need you to speak up this time

I don't think pisskop is gonna listen to me

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Is that even possible

How are analyzing what I say and how I say it when you don't know what I'm saying

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still have no issues with my bulge vote

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@epm the mistake matt made isn't a mistake scum makes

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I would actually love to know why YOU think I'm scum OS

Flubber push was bad bad bad. Like I said earlier, I would expect you to not go after a weak player like that and misunderstand an obvious post. It looks like you want to scum read Flubber, but don't actually believe it yourself because you know Flubber isn't scum.

Your whole push against Flubber didn't sit right with me.

I'm not caught up but this needs to stop. A weak player can still look really town and not be a "low hanging fruit" mislynch

I'm not a strong player but I have a track record of making it really far into games and being a pain in the ass to get a wagon on as town

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Can we please, please not do Oversoul today?

Have you ever heard of distancing?

It can be an effective strategy.

Best post of the game

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Page 30 and more of oversoul not understanding that contradictions are scummy regardless of scumhunting ability.

*sigh*

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Like I want to vote os but I want bulge to actually do something more

Fuck it OS gets my vote after the next vc

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Bulge/OS/RC(??)/Grimm/Piss(??) scumteam

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Bulge/OS/RC(??)/Grimm/Piss(??) scumteam

Too many scum, try again

Why are you implying I should have 100% confidence in my reads right now

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Also I think if nobody said anything about Kinetic being a really good player he'd be under a lot more pressure rn

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VOTE: kinetic

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That's actually a good reason to vote you since it gives more potential to change the gamestate

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On one hand I don't want to lynch an inactive slot but on the other hand deadlines

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VOTE: RC

I missed my chance to hammer apparently but oh well

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Everyone wants to call the bulge scummy but nobody wants to wagon him and idgi

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Everyone wants to call the bulge scummy but nobody wants to wagon him and idgi

It's like you just say things without worrying if they are true or not.

Well the best lynch options right now are part policy lynch or an inactive slot so I'm not sure what you're getting at

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I still don't understand why Flubber isn't happening when he's obviously scum but w/e I give up.

VOTE: Lost

Expressing more than a half-assed accusation of a scum slip from me might get you more mileage

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Sooo what exactly is wrong with lost's readslist?

I see one issue

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I still don't understand why Flubber isn't happening when he's obviously scum but w/e I give up.

VOTE: Lost

Expressing more than a half-assed accusation of a scum slip from me might get you more mileage

I've never said you've scum slipped. I've said you're scum.

Because you are.

Okay but I refuse to believe you can't tell that nobody sees why if the wagon isn't there

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Vyse should be lower on your list

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Vyse should be lower on your list

This isn't your list. This is my list. You've been making a case to be lower on my list too.

His most recent post is a wall of text that says "gut" and that's town?

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Prodge

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Why do you keep asking about the replacement's predecessor?

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VOTE: bulge

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VOTE: grimm

we all know vyse is lurking

Also I know I defended lost too but I'm town and you're not

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I missed the scum case in epm

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Those posts ping scum to me

It's self meta and I've never thought of pisskop as playing sloppily

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How does EPN have no votes when RC voted them a couple pages back?

VOTE: epm

That is what I want a first glance. He wasn't on the Lostaway wagon. EPM made a post that is psychologically suggestive. He votes RC very large and prominent but switches to Flubber more subtly.

You can be town for posting this before I could

Prove to me grim is town and ill move my vote

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So do i

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Oops I jester slipped

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Because you're totally obvtown to us right now

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That probs came out wrong.

Pedit:

vote: EPM

Sure. I'm def lightly scumreading him.

What exactly was your preview edit post in response to?

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Elyse didn't drive a wagon on her partner while you were a viable lynch option. She's 100% town.

I town read this post but bro is still null to me

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What I don't like about Matt is that he called the Lost lynch shitty without ever really calling Lost town or scum. It seemed like he was trying to dismantle the wagon but also not totally defending Lost in case it went through.

I did the same thing but Matt and I are town

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Grimm's most recent vote is scummy. Still waiting for a town case on him too

I'm not sure if this makes sense, but I kinda want a boonskiies lynch without a boonskiies wagon

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Still waiting for a town case on him too

Because someone needs to prove to you that I'm town? Thaaaaaaat's not how this works.

Considering that nobody has refuted why I think you're scum I have no reason to believe I am wrong. But at the same time I'm the only one voting for you so something has to be off about what I'm saying.

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Code: Select all

That being said, you didn't want to answer flubber when he asked for you to prove you're town, why ask me?

I never wanted Grimm to specifically prove to me he was town. Anyone would suffice but grimm's town case on himself would probably hold the least water to me.

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@Flubber it could be your persuasion rather than you being wrong.

Give me a summary of your case please?

What do you think of EPM?

Case on Grimm:

-contradictions in wallposts

-chainsaw at rc in defense of lost followed by an awkward bus

-jabs at people with no follow up

I don't have a read on RPM but I'm willing to sheep the general scum read. That being said I think Grimm deserves more attention for staying under the radar. He's not a player you want to try and re-read come lylo

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@Grimm why the change of heart?

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I don't vca. We will remain in disagreement.

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Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous.

Even after glazing over the vast majority of the posts from JFSF and RC, I'm coming out feeling more town on Jake. I'm still not certain on RC, but I'm actually leaning more scum. I can't remember exactly who said it, and at this time I'm WAY too lazy to go hunt it down, but someone said something to the effect of "you guys aren't doing anything to further the game. We get that you think each other are scummy, but at this point it's anti-town to keep this yelling going." IIRC, RC's next post was sidestepping the argument with JFSF, and it felt kind of forced, which is why he pinged my scumdar. If anyone wants me to not be lazy and hunt this down, I will, but I'm lazy. I legitimately hate taking this stance because I don't want JFSF to jump up and down squealing going "SOMEONE BELIEVES ME" when in all honestly it was nothing that he said that brought me to this conclusion.

I'm not sure what the fuck Flubber is doing, but it did come off as scummy to me. He even had a post that was "I'm so lost." The only reason that stood out to me is because when I first started playing mafia F2F I would say that any time I was scum to prevent myself from having to actually give reads. That being said, I don't know what Flubber's experience is, and frankly I'm not sure that I care, but I just thought it was pretty interesting to note.

mattP rubs me wrong (OHAI MATT). He makes one "good" post and it feels like the rest of his posts have been "i'm gud guize" or commenting on JFSF distracting from the actual game, which in turn distracts from the actual game. So yeah. Not saying that he's scum, but ::feeeeeeelings::

p.much errbody else is just... I don't fucking know. Three rl days and this game is a perfect analogy for shit. So for the time being, my best bet is this.

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I'll actually go back and look into other people later, but these stood out to me for now. I did mostly read this with the mindset of "JFSFvRC is happening right now" so that was I guess what I was looking for, so I'll do a reread (probably tomorrow honestly) looking into other people.

You took my "I'm so lost" comment out of context. It was in direct response to a miscommunication with jake, not a proclamation of general confusion.

Explain to me how "I'm so lost" != "Oh my god my head hurts. This is fucking ridiculous."

Your read on matt is a load of shit and makes no comment to his push on the bulge

You have a strong need to self-affirm

This is where most of my gripes come from contradictions

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Using that logic I should be a stronger suspect of yours....

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That was at elyse

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VOTE: titus

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Maybe it's because I have zero ability to setup crack but shouldn't we be looking for clears at least on boonskiies before claims and speculation?

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Matt, I believe I am The Bulge. Reset.

Flubber, I just want current ones for my VCA work.

Current what

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I can't stand vca but its not gonna kill me to lurk around and whine

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Also wolves arent flagged by gunsmith so Balance??

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Nope! Grimm's neighborize still went off last night!

I'm assuming someone has already confirmed your claim and I missed it otherwise why haven't they

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Wait are we really trying to vca right now

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Town:
BRO
RC
Ankamius/Jake

No gun:
vonflare
Elyse

Leaves:
Flubbernugget
Titus
Boonskiies

The game is solved

3 lynch candidates and 3 lynches left

Do we really think there's 4 scum?

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I'm shaky on a bro read but didn't he claim gs anyway?

Ugh. whatever stupid thing I'm missing is just gonna be in someone's next post anyway as is always when I think I notice something

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By Poe yes. I mean I'm not scum but nobody in that town pile makes me uncomfortable. Well bro does but again I think he claimed gs. So I guess there's a possibility that one of you two are fakeclaiming? Gahhh

Plus with 2 gs in play (i think) doesn't that allow us to clear someone in that scum pool and push one of the town reads into it if necessary? Errrrr no idea now that the idea of fakeclaiming is in my head

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My role pm does not state that I have a gun

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Wait I thought Matt claimed gs too?

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VOTE: boons