NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

PeaceBringer · Mon May 25, 2015 1:03 pm

yeh, it would be nice if I was dead certain on who and is not scum...
clearly I had KC wrong
there is enough pointing at elusive that she could be scum...
Pointy- who knows
being a tracker sucks unless you actually catch someone in act...
my problem here is one of elusive/vamp is likely scum. I would much rather go vamp but if the direction is solving the elusive question, then so be it...

PeaceBringer · Tue May 26, 2015 7:42 am

In post 3098, Grib wrote:Rubicon, are you scum with elusive? I need to know.

Although I think I'd vote PB over her.

really grib- you have only vigged once or taken one out...
If you note the energy out of my gameplay lowered when KC turned out to actually be scum...
I have far much less confidence in some things and the reasons I looked at elusive for me stil stand.
I would much rather go vamp?

PeaceBringer · Wed May 27, 2015 5:56 pm

vote piss

PeaceBringer · Thu May 28, 2015 4:11 pm

In post 3209, PointYBagelS wrote:That wagon went up too fast to be entirely town.

UNVOTE:

so who on the run up do you think is scum?

PeaceBringer · Fri May 29, 2015 4:20 pm

no, no limit on tracks...
if enough folks are suspecting me, put you money where you mouth is, all this, well he could be bad stuff is nonsense and there is bound to be someone scum behind it.

PeaceBringer · Fri May 29, 2015 4:45 pm

In post 3354, Vampirate wrote:Grib, Rubicon, Nero, and myself are clearly trying to solve this damn thing right now even though we disagree on some people.

I claim bull puckey on trying to solve the game, you are locked on me, you are attending to nothing else. You are locked on me because I had the gall to suspect you based on what was a primary reason for Ricastle case on KC. Hey, I have not been on the mark... I have been useless, certainly. Folks think lynching me can solve the game then do it. Don't sit around pointing and waiting to see if others will jump on board. But have you tried to solve the game nope.

As to nero... he has tunneled on elusive and tried to shift to elusive in the midst of the KC run up.

PeaceBringer · Fri May 29, 2015 5:00 pm

In post 3366, Vampirate wrote:
In post 3364, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 3354, Vampirate wrote:Grib, Rubicon, Nero, and myself are clearly trying to solve this damn thing right now even though we disagree on some people.

I claim bull puckey on trying to solve the game, you are locked on me, you are attending to nothing else. You are locked on me because I had the gall to suspect you based on what was a
primary reason for Ricastle case on KC.
Hey, I have not been on the mark... I have been useless, certainly. Folks think lynching me can solve the game then do it. Don't sit around pointing and waiting to see if others will jump on board. But have you tried to solve the game nope.

As to nero... he has tunneled on elusive and tried to shift to elusive in the midst of the KC run up.

Speaking of Nero, Nero do you agree with the bolded?

that is my understanding of ricastle's case... you think I pulled my thinking at the start of the voting out of my ass? That stuck in my mind as ricastle's primary case...

PeaceBringer · Sat May 30, 2015 7:36 am

In post 3391, pisskop wrote:That's bad logic, you. RIP is trying to lynch me on god-knows-what. At least once a game he takes a pass at me, and now he's trying to cite my meta like he knows fuck-all.

Mod: I wish to replace out

ffs, as if my scum meta is to lurk the shit out of games.

this is something I HATE about playing here and seen it happen all too often. Folks get to be run up and then, oops replace out. I am voting this slot regardless...

PeaceBringer · Sat May 30, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 3399, RIP wrote:Nero I think is exactly elusive and pisskob and then peace bringer and game over

the number of times my name comes up is getting beyond hilarious...

PeaceBringer · Sat May 30, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 3402, RIP wrote:Why would I claim cop as a scum?
And even if I was lying that doesn't make me scum.
Let scum figure me out.

Okay, this is funny... why would you claim cop or why would scum in general claim cop? Seriously, this is just a really bizarre statement.

PeaceBringer · Sun May 31, 2015 4:41 pm

out tomorrow, birthday and all...

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:05 am

just a quick check in... not moving my vote- the slot needs to go

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:30 am

Taly did not go anywhere...

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:49 am

vote Vamp...

really frustrated here and the aviodance of jbomber is standing out...

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:51 pm

In post 3693, Rubicon wrote:For what it's worth, I think Nero is town even if he's not confirmed. His behavior has been pretty pro-town (Boon wagon, willingness to lynch KC and pisskop) and his reactions have seemed genuine and off-the-cuff the whole game.

I also think he tends to be less active and make fewer posts as town (consistently over the last 20+ games) and more willing to "go along" with his partners as scum as opposed to aggressively bussing. He was really getting in KC's face at times. This game could be an exception, of course, but combined with other elements of his play I would bet on him flipping town.

here is my thoughts, there is someone not in suspect pool that is not worried about being tracked. That could be nero...
I got no problem with the plan...

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:54 pm

In post 3685, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3682, davesaz wrote:I'm pretty skeptical about their being a JOAT and a 2-shot cop and a tracker. That's a lot of investigative power.

I feel like the JOAT, FN, 2 shot cop isn't a bad combo. Its a max of 4 investigations. A tracker is weaker since their only useful results are when its one scum left. I kinda questioned if Grib would have two protects AND we had a full doc but I don't think that's impossible either. A 10/4 split isn't totes out of question but meh...idk 9/5 seems about right to me so I think the last scum is in pointy, rubi, vamp, elusive and I guess Taly.

if only 1 scum left then it is not Taly

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:57 pm

In post 3702, elusive wrote:Okies, me 2

VOTE: Drixx

Hey there, sorry you replaced into a scum slot.

if there are 2 scum left, possible, but if only one, then Taly did not act...
I do not get the logic here...

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:59 pm

In post 3708, Rubicon wrote:
In post 3706, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 3693, Rubicon wrote:For what it's worth, I think Nero is town even if he's not confirmed. His behavior has been pretty pro-town (Boon wagon, willingness to lynch KC and pisskop) and his reactions have seemed genuine and off-the-cuff the whole game.

I also think he tends to be less active and make fewer posts as town (consistently over the last 20+ games) and more willing to "go along" with his partners as scum as opposed to aggressively bussing. He was really getting in KC's face at times. This game could be an exception, of course, but combined with other elements of his play I would bet on him flipping town.

here is my thoughts, there is someone not in suspect pool that is not worried about being tracked. That could be nero...
I got no problem with the plan...

I dunno what you mean by that.

meaning if there are 2 scum left, then nero is a prime suspect as he has been town read all game by most. So no threat of being tracked or anything else. This leaves other scum to do nothing. It may be just paranoia on my part though.

I have no problem with the stated plan related to Grib, me, and BBT

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:35 pm

In post 3713, Rubicon wrote:
In post 3709, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 3702, elusive wrote:Okies, me 2

VOTE: Drixx

Hey there, sorry you replaced into a scum slot.

if there are 2 scum left, possible, but if only one, then Taly did not act...
I do not get the logic here...

There was no kill, and Taly flaked before night. So your result doesn't necessarily prove anything.

I would think a mod would not deadline an action if you have a sole scum left and replacing in. I would bitch at the mod if I was that replace... so doubtful...
also a replacee is going to take a shot at you?

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:37 pm

In post 3716, PointYBagelS wrote:
In post 3714, Drixx wrote:If you guys lynch me you just save me the reading of 3700+ posts and kill a VT. So if you're cool with mislynching a replacement before he even settles into the game ... that's on you.

To be fair, last time we did that we hit scum...

We're also 10 days to deadline. RIP hasn't even shown up yet. I don't think anyone's going to be hammering for a bit.

oh good grief, that is a stupid statement and a prime example of "intermittent reinforcement." This situation is different...

PeaceBringer · Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:00 am

we already have one plan-

vote nero...

I was already paranoid

PeaceBringer · Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:24 am

PeaceBringer · Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:32 pm

unvote...

PeaceBringer · Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:44 am

Umm, wasn't the plan discussed this day?

PeaceBringer · Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:46 am

so that has me concerned about grib...
1st of all, he claimed to have an active bodyguard
now claiming he was supposedly protecting BBT when there was no reason to...
then started pointing at me...with lol, taly

PeaceBringer · Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:48 am

In post 3863, Grib wrote:Also, I was quite clearly not going to protect you last Night since we planned on clearing PB, and that involved making sure the Doc lived through the Night.

And BBT was supposed to protect someone random and force PB to claim the target.

So you could have been shot last Night, when you were actually publicly vulnerable, but you weren't.

actually, my quick take was off...
so he claims not protect BBT for clearing me
trying to throw stuff at BBT and me as a result...
this is really awful

PeaceBringer · Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:51 am

I don't know what to make of it myself...

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:34 am

seriously....http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=3900

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:35 am

ignore that, no intent to post that link...

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:37 am

so nothing has been explained adequately
so folks go back to the slot that did not act last night.
So are there 2 BGs left?

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:38 am

In post 3904, Grib wrote:I looked on the wiki, and literally the only possibility /aside from one of Nero or RIP being a lying scumbag/ is that there's a scum Rolestooper in play, who effectively targets someone and turns them into as Ascetic Bulletproof for the Night.

That's probably not a Thing this game. It's considered normal, but I've never heard of nor seen a Rolestopper.

Or there's a mechanic where the last scum inherits a power role from their dead teammates? Although the only useful one would be the Roleblock.

Easiest explanation is that one of Nero or RIP is lying and we should lynch one of them either toDay or toMorrow. I don't know why he's trying to come after me. Being jealous of my powers doesn't make me scum.

the other option is that Grib is lying scum... sure he did take out a scum, but remember the scum was a traitor...

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:40 am

In post 3932, Rubicon wrote:Grib's town.

based on what Rubicon... you knows this for fact, if so how?
1 of Grib, Nero, or RIP is lying scum most likely. Any other option is beyond grasping.

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:43 am

In post 3921, Rubicon wrote:It wouldn't exactly surprise me if we lynch RIP and he flips cop, we lynch Nero and he flips VT, and then when the game is over we find out there's a mafia JOAT and Shinobi laughs at us all for setup spec. Or RIP is somehow really confused and wasn't roleblocked at all. Or doing a stupid gambit.

especially in light of this comment. If there is a mafia JOAT it is Grib.

PeaceBringer · Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:28 pm

If Nero and RIP are both truth telling then the tally/drixx slot is not scum. As there is an action that created no result. Tally/drixx did not act at all. If there is a kill and unidentified action out there. 2 scum left and tally/drixx committed neither.
Nero trying to argue otherwise and folks voting that slot is odd and off.

PeaceBringer · Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:02 am

vote Vamp

PeaceBringer · Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:21 am

In post 3985, Rubicon wrote:elusive, maybe... if he's both town and untargetable? But I don't know if that makes sense.

RIP,

Do you think scum-Grib has a vig shot he used on his partner?

Which of the roles I listed above do you think is most likely in this game?

Did you ever PM Shinobi to double-check whether you were roleblocked?

boon was a traitor... it is entirely possible for JOAT scum GRIB to shoot partner...

PeaceBringer · Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:18 pm

In post 4051, Nero Cain wrote:but naw, I think my vote is going to be on Drixx all day tomorrow. (if game isn't over) Or Maybe its a Drixx and RIP team and RIP fakeclaimed a guilty on my to save the Taly/Drixx slot?

this is awful...

PeaceBringer · Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:38 pm

This game to me was utterly frustrating...