Mafia 58: Ready Salted - Game over!

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Wartys Neryon

for not confirming yet

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="~N9V~"]

Vote: KaleiÐoscøpe

because Ðo

scøpe

is something you use to shoot with more precision.[/quote]It makes it harder for people to vote for me.... ehehehe

Unvote
Vote: Twito

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Livingod clearly needs to die. He posted after DoS made the semi-scummy post without saying anything about it, then after Sham notices he votes along.

SCUM

SCUM = VOTE

UNVOTE VOTE: livingod

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm not buying it. Vote stays

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Makes me suspect that Livingod's waggon is in fact scum-filled.

pfff... you're just trying to save him by saying this, hoping people will hop off.

Vote stays. We should hammer him.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Livingod should claim.

what would i have to gain by that?
Im supposed to be trying to find out the Mafia here, and if ur gonna convince me to vote Livingod, ur gonna have to work alot harder.
After all-just because hes getting wagonned, doesnt mean he is Mafia.

Well, if we are gonna lynch livingod we will gain info because of this. Your comment was irrilevant unless you are scum, which is why I definitly want to lynch livingod now, after he claimed. There is no specific reason not to lynch livingod.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Battle Mage

Seems obvious

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Seems like BM is feeling bad for not jumping on his buddy. I like it how you're trying to blame me that your godfather died. We should hammer you.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

So i'm scum for pushing a mafia leader lynch. m'kay

Unvote
Vote: Theopor COD

BM can wait a day.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm still here. Still in for a BM lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

hmm, I forgot I actually unvoted ages ago.

Unvote
Vote: BM

I still stand with my previous reasons. Protecting the scumleader is scummy in my opinion.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Twito made me look up KaleiDoscope's posts.

His entire posting (and voting) history is as follows.

1. Random vote for Wartys Neryon
2. Voting Twito in response to vote on self, probably random
3. "Livingod is scummy", votes Livingod
4. "I'm keeping my vote on Livingod"
5. "We should lynch Livingod"
6. Livingod should claim, we'll get info if we lynch him, response to unknown post

(no names on quotes,

Bad Karma: KaleiDoscope

)

7. Vote Battle Mage, seems obvious,

no quote, or justification

8. You're scum, because you defended the godfather Battle Mage
9. Reaction vote to Thepor COD's comments

the whole scum voting for godfather thing is, as I've always maintained, WIFOM

10. "We should lynch BM"
11. Vote BM, protecting the godfather is scummy,

A bit agressive, not much logic, reasserting himself every post.

Maybe Twito's right, so why not

Vote: KaleiDoscope

?

I've explained my vote for BM. He protected the scumleader, ergo, he needs to die. My opinion on this won't change.

The post I just quoted didn't contain any explanation for the vote as well. You've bassicly gone through all of my posts, made some notes and that's it. There is no valid reason in your post in why you should vote me

FoS: yellowbounder

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ohyes, and

FoS: Twito

for pushing a bandwagon

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I like it how people suspect me but misserably fail in explaining why. Doesn't seem like the townie way to me.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="Twito"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I like it how people suspect me but misserably fail in explaining why. Doesn't seem like the townie way to me.[/quote]
Give up scum. Yet another lie saying that you like it.[/quote]On your knees Twito, so momma can smack ya on ya butt.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I resently heard KC is an excellent scumhunter. As she hasn't found any scum in this game she is likely to be scum herself. (or him?)

Why don't you just admit that you are actually scum, together with yellow and bm?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Your defense is noted.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've got nothing to defend myself against since there aren't any points presented against me in the first place. Twito screams i'm scum and the rest says I agree with Twito. I've heard nothing more then that.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've voted for livingod with reason. I've voted on BM with reasons stated later on. I voted theodor later, saying I could live with a lynch with him, but would still like to see bm dead. Then I revoted him once more.

I don't think there isn't more explanation needed. You knew where I stood with my opinion.

Also, if this is your only reason, it's really a bad one and needs a

FoS: Twito

badly. It seems like a really bad attempt to distract the town to lynch someone else then the "oh-so-obvious-scum-BM".

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I don't think the mafia team would be all to happy with a second scumlynch in a row, hence your actions.

Yes you gave REASONING why you voted everyone you voted. But saying something why you are doing that is not exactly same as giving proper reasons which you didn't.

Take a look in the mirror Twito. You might actually want to acuse yourself of it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Well, you haven't actually presented good arguements either, so I guess we can shake hands. Seriously though, if that are all your reasons you got, I can see in no way that would be a good townie lynch. The position you're holding at the moment is terribly scummy, and you're reasons for it are very flawed. I'm actually suprised so many people fell for it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yet youa sk me to explain my votes, while your reasons are actually deadly obvious? Now that's something I find scummy.

In nice so many people checked over you and thinked about it.

I doubt half of the people actually cared to look at it in the first place. Most of them just hop on the bandwagon. It seems to be a trend on scum: not thinking and just lynching.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Of course not, but it's rather stupid that if you're a townie that you get lynched just because someone is shouting it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

So why do you, Twito?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've never played a game with BM. The fact that he usually plays that doesn't actually mean he can't be scum, so that point is irrelevant for that matter. My vote stays and isn't likely to be changing anytime soon.

Also I'd still like to hear your opinions on everyone on the game.

BM is scum, the rest is irrelevant now.

I honestly see you as scum looking at what you've based your vote on this game and your lack of contribution.

I see no reason to reply to stuff that doesn't change my opinion about my current vote. That doesn't mean I won't admit that I was lurking, because I

was

. I've bassicly did that in every game I was currently in.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No, I think we should not be distracted by other people who are trying to change the direction of the lynch. After BM turned out scum, it's time for evaluation during the night again, and then continue finding the rest.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I don't really think that's the case and if it does turn out that way, I don't think I would apologize (as i'm not a scumbag), as his play cried for it.

Oh, and same question for you.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

The only people I attacked are LG, BM and Twito. Also, the agression == scum is also bad logic. Heck, all the people who seek reasons to vote along have been using craplogic, since none of them are actually scumtells.

Vote stays. BM should get hammered.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Sorry, i've been away for a short period of time... vote still stands where it is.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I really need to get back to reading this, don't I?

Vote is staying on BM for the time being.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I actually did BM. I still think you're scum. And btw, your so called points were terribly flawed as many people pointed out at that point. The reason I'm not posting so much is because I've not kept up so much lately.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've said I've been lurking around lately, in case you didn't notice...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Scum= Battle Mage, Twito, Cheesefan.

Vote is still staying btw.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Interesting...

Unvote
Vote: ~N9V~

I'm inclined to believe that lowel is more townie then n9v, mainly because my 3 main suspect are voting lowel

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

lol... go bandwagon a townie...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Oh, and two things:
1) I was unaware of the fact that if we didn't reach a majority, we get a no lynch.
2) I didn't like a lowell lynch. period.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ehm, no? My vote wouldn't have made a difference between a lynch or a no lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

you didn't know that at the time. Anyway, ur at -2 lynch. Anything else of note to say?
BM

Yes.

Vote: BM

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

FYI: I wouldn't have voted for lowel even if he was -1... because I didn't believe he was scum. Not that it matters much now... but hey, nice how fast a bandwagon develops when scum sees the chance of a townie lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ehm, I actually didn't switch sides. I've never voted lowell, I voted BM before that.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Well you switched to a pointless vote.

I was unaware of the fact that if we didn't reach a majority, there would be held a no lynch.

Why don't you bring up some theories other than just pursuing BM, even if BM's scum he isn't the only one.

He protected the scumleader D1... I've also said Twito and Cheesefan are likely scum in my eyes as well. The fact that all three voted for lowell convinces me just more.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'd say "Good Job on lynching scum."

Hai scum. If I die, this guy deserves the hammer, along with BM and Twito.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

The reason I've been lurking the last week is because my traineeship started and have less time on the intranet.

But hey, I would be interested to see what happens if I get lynched, just to prove the smartasses that they were wrong all the way. I'd even support just to smother a laugh.

I can live with both Twito and BM dead as well.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hai scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I can live with both Twito and BM dead as well.

Actually, you could live with any of us dead since by definition - if someone else dies by lynch, then you didn't. I just found that humorous.

Well, chance increases if both are dead'...

is there actually a deadline?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Keep pushing BM... maybe santa believes you one day...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

LOL... try to do the same once in a while BM... you've done nothing else then pushing... It's nothing more or less then I did... but I don't think I'm willing to unvote scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Claiming vanilla, in my opinion, is something you should never do.

Funny how you're asking citizens to lie. Doesn't suprise me if you are scum as well.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Having to claim, means you were being a bad town player.

Or that the town is ignorant and just likes to bandwagon.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes, I got my prod

Vote: Scope

Day needs to end, and alot of progress will be made if I am dead. Question marks at some people will disappear and some will be turned into the spotlight. The reason I'm doing this is because my time is limited (a.k.a. I probably need to be replaced soon anyway) and I think, in favour for the town, I think my death will cause more help (concerning other players) then the things I say when being alive. It will also dissappear the doubt about if I would buss my godfather.

With that being said, I say we should hammer, and people should take a look at those who generally pushed this the whole day tomorrow.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Then again, you are scum, so why would you care in the first place?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm willing to change my vote to N9 if it doesn't result into another no lynch. I do not support a theo lynch, because I'd rather keep my vote on myself then.

to reply to a few question marks from Fonz:

Claims that no real case has been made against him, so dismisses it outta hand. Well, several people seem convinced a case exists, and it's hugely unlikely they're all scum. So at least one townie thinks you have a serious case to answer.

From what I've understood, people suspect me because they think I would've bussed the mafia godfather so heavily. BM suspects me because I called him scum right on the start of day 2 because of holding back on the livingod lynch, although he will not admit it anyway.

Then plenty more with little content, though he does at least do us the favour of suggesting a possible scum partnership. Mind you, he states that BM and Cheesefan are likely scum in one post, then in the very next drops Cheesefan and suggests it is Panzerjager who are scum with Twito and BM.

That's because Cheesefan was replaced and then killed. I didn't notice he got replaced nor did I knew that his replacement got killed. I've noted Panzer after that because of some scummy posts at that time.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

As promised

Unvote
Vote: ~N9V~

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I stand with what I thought yesterday

FoS: BM
Vote: ~N9V~

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I agree with BM.

No matter what happens today, I want a lynch today.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

FoS: IH

1. N9V is the play for today.
2. Leading the cop is bad. Cops can think on their own.
3. This just seems like another shameless attempt to let people unvote and let the lynch run into a rashed civilian or a no lynch after the deadline comes near.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

1.Is N9V the best play for the day, or a play?
2.Leading the cop is only bad because if you lead the cop, scum kill off his investigation, correct? Well, if all you need to know is the persons alignment, then it doesn't matter if they're alive or dead. If you have another reason why leading the cop is scummy, then by all means let me know.
3.Panzer is a much better lynch than N9V.

1. The better play then you suggested.
2. Because people you suspect should go straight through the lynch machine. The Cop shouldn't reveal his investigations until absolutly necessary. This way, we have more townies at the end, if all turns out well. Wasting investigations by saying who they have to investigate results in dead townflesh or a delayed lynch. Both are bad.
3. Actually, BM is the best play, but N9V is a good alternative.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

But Kscope, I don't suspect N9V at the moment enough to lynch him. Lynching him would be like lynching someone for information.

Technicly, lynching anyone is for information, mainly on the part of whether they are town or scum, but also if their actions can be explained in a good or bad way. It isn't any different as Panzer.

Whats the case for BM being a better lynch?

Obvious godfather protecting during day 1 and "you vote me so I attack you to sway off suspicion". But I'll understand if people are not so happy with that lynch at

this

point

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes, but avoiding a lynch on a prime suspect to get him investigated instead is bad play. Cops should go after players who are in the "doubt" zone.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Because you're scum, obviously. Still in for a BM and/or Nv9 lynch

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Can we get over this talking and lynch a bitch. I don't want

another

no lynch

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Because it's ridicilous if it was, considering what happened. Besides, you have a grudge formed against me now, so it doesn't matter what I post from now on, you won't change your mind anyway. You got tunnel vision

We need to lynch n9v

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Funny how you are incapable of spelling it correctly at least once.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Nope, other than K-Scope is really, really, really pushing on my wagon.

I'm pushing on a scum lynch, yep.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

LOL, it seems today is "Help your fellow mafiate" day.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

FoS: Scot

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I guess we should ask the mod to close the game then. Case closed :rolleyes:

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

FoS: Panzer

Creating a no-lynch once more isn't a protown thing to do either.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You've got to be kidding me. This wagon is far from quick. At the start of this day, the lynch on nv9 was proposed already, so if scum really wanted to wagon him, they could have done this at the start of the day. They didn't then.

So no, it's not quick.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Maybe. You're scum, and I have grudges against scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

With a no lynch, we receive no leads about what the scum is voting. It's not like they're going to hit people we suspect.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Well, that didn't really go as well didn't it?

Well then, now it's time to maul BM then

Vote: BM

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You already know I was town BM, because you are scum. Now cut this act and show your real identity to us, traitor!

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

We should lynch Bm...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

BM needs lynched. Get the point and join the wagon.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Isn't almost everyone doing that whole game?

Can we get a votecount please?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Plz lynch BM so we can go into night.

kthxbai

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: BM

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I voted every day for him. How can you not follow.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Fonz

Not buying it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: The Fonz

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Can someone please link me how the others are all confirmed? Thanks in advance.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Alright. Let's get over to lynching so we can finally lynch BM tomorrow.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

BM is scum
Panzer is probably the second scum, otherwise Scotmany

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I would be lieing if I did.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Fos: Panzer

Vote: BM

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

My vote is set to stone today. Today seems a good day to get BM hanged.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Right, I think that last little exchange was a case in point. They distance, without making a case against one another.

Vote: Panzer
FOS: BM

Y'know, this is a very interesting post. Thinking about a BM+Scot scumpair now.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Well, I'm a townie and you're not. Go figure the difference.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

thats WIFOM right?
Anyway, pray tell how you came to the conclusion that whilst Fonz was supposedly bussing me, he was definitely not doing the same to Panzer?

I suggest you read the thread yourself and then figure it out yourself. For me, you're just digging your own hole this day.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've been doing that whole game. Why should I suddenly stop it?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've stated my opinion. You, on the other hand, seem to have problems with me stating my opinion.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Where did I lie then?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You're so expectable. I was expecting that my "lies" were the ones where I called you scum. Trust me dear, those are not lies. The reason I think you're scum are still the same. You tried to protect your GF, which failed. At that point, you were busted.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

lol Theo knows as well as anyone that that is a BS reason as far as i am concerned. I did the EXACT SAME THING in Mafia 61, and guess what? I was town. A similarity between both games is that they both began a long time ago, when i was a relative newb on this site. Hell, read my early posts and you can see that. People make mistakes-me especially. lol
I was just getting to grips with playing on MS, and naturally, when i see a large BW building up, i'm pretty wary.

If thats the entirety of your case against me, i think you've failed tremendously in getting another mislynch.

I don't need reasons to be convinced of someone being scum. Most of my suspects come by guts, and I can tell you: my first game I ever played I catched 3 scum because of my gut. Since then, I've been playing by my gut mostly. So yeah, I don't have any solid reasons to suspect you, but that doesn't mean I don't suspect you. A quick glance on the thread shows a BM+scot scumpair to me, so I'm sticking to that. You, on the other hand, have failed so far to eleborate any of your suspicions so far. You've been bassicly stalling, just to see what the rest thinks so your thoughts won't run to far off.

Why does K-Scope consider me not being on the Livingod wagon as confirmation of me being scum, and yet he completely ignores Scotmany doing the same. Don't get me wrong, i don't think Scots actions alone warrant a vote, but its odd that K-Scope has such double standards.
Explanation?

Simple. You were the one most agressivly defending him. I always focus on one, maybe two people, usually nothing more. If I'm convinced someone is scum, I make sure that player has no chance of jumping into the lurkerzone without dieing first.

Also, I could live with a scotlynch today and BM lynch tomorrow.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hows ur analysis of me going K-Scope?

I don't need an analyses of you to see that you're scum. I didn't promise it to anyone I'd make one. For the rest it is important about how my current stance is now.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Amb is confirmed deaded, BM is not. If BM turned up to be town, you have the right to blame me so. As long as he's alive, there is no reason not to think he is scum. Besides, you might as well cooperate to prove me wrong then? no?

Your post confirmed my suspicions about the BM and Scot scumpair.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Logic is overrated. Gut works the same way and catches scum as well.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Gut is not enough this far into the game. At least I put some reasoning into amb, even though he turned up town. Early on in the game, such as on day 1, then following your gut is fine. This late in the game, however, I think you should have at least some reasoning with your vote except for it being your gut.

BM protected the scumleader. Then there is the choice between you and Panzer, and since fonzie attacked Panzer, the second scumspot goes to you. Gratz

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

There are differences between attacking and attacking, scot. His actions towards Panzer seems the most bloodlusty

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

*waits for scope to jump onto my wagon, leaving me at -1*

I'm not in a haste. I'll wait for the others to return.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ok then scope, answer this. Do you not find it at the least bit scummy that panzer votes for me without any reason? Do you not find that just a little bit oppurtunistic?

No. I do it all the time.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Thats ridiculous scope. Panzer's first post in a while, and he ignores basically everything and simply votes me, in what simply appears to be omgus. He does not comment on anything that has occured after the last time he has posted. I don't see how you can defend him when he does something like that.

I'm not defending him. I'm simply answering your question. I don't always eleborate on my votes as well. That might be a scummy thing to do, yep, but sometimes feelings lead you to scum, which you cannot describe.

Besides, panzer's first post this day consisted of a non-eleborated vote for me. Go figure.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Lol... I really like your analysis, BM. It looks like you are more trying to convince yourself that I'm scum instead of holding yourself to the facts, probably because I'm onto you all game. To me, it destroys the objectivity in this post, meaning the post is merely good as an explanation for your vote, instead of a general reread on me for other players. I don't know if that was the purpose, but that's how I see it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

He says he's having personal problems in another game I'm playing with him (werewolves mini). I think that explains it.

I'd still like to see BM lynched, as my doubts between Scot and Panzer are too risky atm

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm wondering if we will get a good lynch today, considering people, such as myself, are quite stubborn with their votes...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

actually your right-i was as much trying to confirm my vote on you in my own mind, as i was trying to convince others that you are scum. people like Theo, and Kelly to a lesser extent, have been providing detailed analyses of the game at different stages. Consider this MY contribution to the game.

Alright. That was what I wanted to know. Thanks

I'm not planning on voting Scot until Panzer returns, or a replacement for him drops in.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Scotmany12

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

2 to lynch? Not three?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: BM

It's indeed obvious from the start of D2

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ok, this can go into the book as another town loss. I honestly can't care about what happens now anymore, because I don't think we will be getting the correct lynch today anyway.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Time to coop BM

Unvote Vote: Panzer

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

WIFOM!

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

LOL? I was actually planning to give up on this game because of Panzer's stubbornness and blindness. Let's hope Theo does make the right decision here.

Vote: BM

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

He sure does. He knows which decision is right.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Oh, and BM. I can now officially say you

were

trying to protect the GF. Looks like I've been right all game, whether or not Theo makes the right decision.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

lol yeh, suspect me when it suits you K-Scope. The fact is, my comment from my analysis stands. All game you have been trying to maintain pressure on me, whilst taking occassional breaks to run up townies.

You did it with Scot, and even tried it on Panzer, and many more who i cannot be bothered to name.

Its so frigging obvious that you are scum, and it has been since early in the game!
Its upto Theo now. If he makes the wrong choice, we deserve to lose...

Look who's talking. Your scummates attempted several times to lynch, and I'm still standing. Your so called reasons are more twist of words and own interpetations then anything else.

To respond to the bolded part: I was under the impression that there were two scum left. I've always named you as top suspect and named scot as secondary. I've made pretty clear that I rather wanted you dead then scot, but was willing to get a lynch out of him because of being 2 scum left. I was voting panzer today because I felt this game was lost anyway, because of Panzer's tunnel vision.

The "many more" is a nulltell, since there are not many more. You're blowing things out of proportion, and I hope Theo sees that when he's making up his mind.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

so ~N9V~ is your "many more" now. Congrats

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You're feeling that your end is nigh.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've read both of your posts in isolation. BM's post regards Scope previous page, I'm looking back into - Scope has been pretty convinced on BM all the way through, he hasn't had much curiousity which concerns me, mind BM hasn't really had a wagon of note on him which also concerns me. Scope any chance you could point me in the direction of a completed game with you as scum? Other than that I'm still re-reading the whole thread in entirety and everyone's else opinions.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4455

This was the only one that comes near it. I've yet to play a whole game as scum on 'scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I knew you would make the right decision. I would be so awarding you for a title if you didn't

I also find it hilarious I was right about BM defending the GF. Busted!

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

1. You would've probably won if Panzer lived.
2. I always play by gut, so don't expect any strong points.
3. I had fun poking you whole game, and I LOLled that in the end, I was right.