NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

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frogger. jsut stop

No.

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VOTE: Davsto

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@Axle - I have no idea what question you are asking. You keep sending me on a wild goose chase. What is your question. Do not send me a link.

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So can anyone explain why, as scum, I wouldn't have just hammered the shit out of pisskop?

Towncred

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So can anyone explain why, as scum, I wouldn't have just hammered the shit out of pisskop?

Towncred

Kind of like Axle's scumbuddy didn't hammer a townie D1 in our prior game. Or why I, when I was scum, didn't hammer lalalala ducks in BEES (in fact, both of my scumbuddies were off the wagon and didn't hammer either...it was an all town wagon on a townie).

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Seriously? You will do anything to say Davsto is scum.

And you'll do anything to say I'm scum. So we're even.

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you appear to be outright admitting that you have no intention of reading Davsto objectively.

So why would I admit that if I was scum? Serious question. Think about that for a second.

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SHUT THE HELL UP AND STUI AGRING WITHT HE FUCKING MASON YOUR DOING NOTHING BUT MAKING SPAN AND ANNOYANCE

I'll stop arguing with him if he fucking stops arguing with me. I said I'd end it, and he continued it.

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pisskop what do you think of tn?

flipflop between null and nullscum

boom

VOTE: pisskop

now I know why I haven't died yet. Been scumreading tn's buddies wrong.

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This is confirmation bias, Fro99er, and you know it.

No, I don't know it because I'm not confbiasing. I'm showing appropriate levels of town paranoia by not being sure if you, fire, or pisskop were tn's buddies. I figured it out now.

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And if I had hammered I'd have been called:
a) opportunistic if he'd flipped town
b) bussing for towncred if he'd flipped scum

Wrong. I'd have probably townread you for it. I don't see you bussing two buddies.

You're confbiasing how you think I'd read you.

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supposed-town

well, I'm confirmed town to me.

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Who's to say that frogger/piss aren't scum together, Sala?

Also, I scumread frogger for 151/152

VOTE: fro99er

So you guys think tn listed both his scumbuddies here (me and piss?). I think he listed one scumbuddy (hint: I'm not the scumbuddy)

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assuming 19p singleball were looking for 5-6 scum. We have a fruit vendor and a claimed 1shot vig.

Terrible town tell. There's no way there's 6. More likely 4-5

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It was fairly obvious tn was getting lynched so it's pretty easy to bus at that point.

Exactly, and piss was late to the TN wagon and voted him without real reason. Classic scum vote on scum realizing the lynch was inevitable.

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So you're really going with TN bussed one of us instead of tried to link 2 townies together to look like scumhunting

Yes

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New wagon

VOTE: Shazam

por que?

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Fuck off axle. I'm not ignoring. I'm choosing not to read your walls and follow your links. I'm not going on a wild goose chase.

Also, remember the last time I ignored you, and you called me out on it, you were scum and I was town. I know I'm town. Just sayin...

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Question

: Pick and choose which points you can clarify what you were thinking at that time

And yes, I'll sit here and defend the shit out of him if you keep suspecting him off of his entrance post.

I was thinking your post #8 was null. Not a town tell, not a scum tell. People somehow thought because I was defending you for #8 that I was town reading you for it. I was just defending you from people artifically creating a scum read off you for it, because your #8 is null.

I just want Axle to talk to me

I wanted you to talk to me, because you hadn't been there for a while, and usually that time of night you are online given that you are TIMEZONES. I was paranoid, because last time you sat back and watched me lynch town (Felissan), and I thought you might be doing that here because banana already had built up a small wagon that I was on.

My head is pretty fucked up.

I was drunk.

Axle and tn confscum

tn was scum, you were scum in my head at the time for not scumhunting. Just putting up a smokescreen like you did in newbie.

can't believe I'm going soft on axle, but now i'm going soft.....

I started to townread you after hard scum reading you.

So I was right D1? Oh boy!

I was excited because I thought my gut instincts D1 (you and tn scum) were correct.

Yeah, just read your D2 ISO. Feeling better about you.

I was V/LA D2, made my post 1877 without reading your ISO, read it, and started to feel better. But not totally sure.

I think you read axle based off how he reacts to things later. That's why I think the early suspicion on him is dumb.

This was before you started posting and all your posts were non-scumhunting which I pointed out in 345

I love wagons just as much as the next person, if not more so, but if you're going to wagon, just say you're doing it to wagon, not because you hate his post #8.

Why? They're both bullshit pushes...

I made a bullshit push on him in our newbie game based off his RVS post (he was scum, but my push on him was admittedly 100% fabricated just to get out of RVS and see how people reacted).

huh?

pedit: nice vote on me while I was responding

VOTE: axle

You KNOW I'm not scum.

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Yeah I was scum you were town, and the situation was entirely unlike this one.

Wrong

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Fuck off axle.

Fuck off yourself

Why? You wanted me to answer your questions so bad, then why tell me to fuck off?

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based on?

Don't remember, I was drunk.

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You type very well for someone so drunk they don't remember.

Why thank you. I have a lot of practice at it.

Can you recall if you go back and look?

I went back and looked, and something about your 372 must have insta-flipped my mind, but not sure what because I don't remember.

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based on?

Don't remember, I was drunk.

after 1891 as well?

Just me being paranoid and dumb in 1891. I've flipped on you a lot this game. Doesn't make me scum.

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Cool. That's fine. I'm town.

Happy days when Axle is proven wrong (or he's scum trying to push a mislynch of obvtown. There's zero chance I bussed tn).

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Just me being paranoid and dumb in 1891. I've flipped on you a lot this game. Doesn't make me scum.

No, that does not make sense. 1891 is not you being paranoid. 1891 says you reread the D2 ISO.

Yeah, just read your D2 ISO. Feeling better about you.

yes you have flipped and flopped in your read on me, and i have failed to be able to follow why,
and when i ask

you reply

Fuck off axle. I'm not ignoring. I'm choosing not to read your walls and follow your links. I'm not going on a wild goose chase.

Also, remember the last time I ignored you, and you called me out on it, you were scum and I was town. I know I'm town. Just sayin...

This does not feel right.

I dont see where the fuck off comes from.
or the AtE.

Just sayin...

I don't even care about winning this game anymore. I already know towns so fucked (in large part because of me, but hey, at least I got tn)

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DGAF. Putting Axle on ignore now.

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VOTE: frogger

Sheeping crickets

Pls wagon me so I can flip town and we can lynch scum on my wagon. I'm not joking.

I'd be so happy to leave this game if it helps us catch actual scum

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Actually. TOWN. please let scum wagon me

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The best part is, scum know I'm town. So any push on me needs to feel super fucking town motivated for them to be actual town. Not some bullshit sheep case or flaky case.

VOTE: Axle just so Sala doesn't replace.


But I'm on the verge anyway

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That's your excuse every time. Doesn't feel the same when I don't answer your questions like I didnt last time.

Doesn't feel same when I self vote when I did as town last time.

Doesn't feel same that I'm once again I'm VT and Axle is all too happy to see me go down.


Whatever Axle. I don't know if you are scum or town because I suck at this game. That's why I keep flip flopping. At least I have the balls to admit it. If you are town you just fucking suck as town, like I do.

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You just don't want to admit to yourself you suck at this game if you are town. If you are scum, then I understand your push, but that means you are scum

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omfg....

know what im jsut dodgin now. the sheer stupitity of fighting that is going on and shit ate by everyone is fucking pathetic

Agree. Prodging the rest of the way.

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Yep Axle. Sala's my scumbuddy cuz we're that obvious and you're that genious .

Bravo. Gold stars for you.

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Whatever ika. I don't care if I'm voted 90% of the time.

This time I'm annoyed because Ricastle and Axle both know this isn't my scum meta, so I'm extra annoyed.

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Like, Axle expects me to remember every post I made for every reason n while I was hammered, and then every post I made for every reason while my brother was in the hospital and it was a holiday weekend here in the States.

If he realizes, I hardly posted on site that whole weekend. I was away from the game. I didn't give two shits about mafia with more important things.

I honestly don't even know what reasons I posted and why. I just don't care anymore.

Vanilla town

Gonna lurk now.

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The only reason I wasn't on the tn wagon D2 is because I was V/LA. Otherwise I would have been all over that.

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You say you doubt I was bussing, yet immediately after you say you'd vote for me? Cool

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VOTE: pisskop

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Davesto - so you think I bussed tn, echo bussed tn, and now I'm bussing pisskop slot?


Oooooook

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I think I hear the wind

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Gosh it's really windy

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lol, ok yeah Bearbert is scum. Leaving my vote there

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I think fro99er was bussing TN there. Didn't feel the interaction there was genuine. I'll probably make a case there sometime soon.

I look forward to this, so you can look like a fool and we can lynch you if I get mislynched today.

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We're less than 48 hours from deadline and nowhere near a lynch.

Everyone should either vote Bearbert or vote me, pronto

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Ika come vote with me

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I feel like scum is Shazam, Hana, Bearbert and ???

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inb4 they ask me why.


Because

That's why

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inb4 "that's not a valid reason"

I know. IDGAF

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Why did you vote rn when you did?

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Tn

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^@hana

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Also please don't make me choose between bear and you.

Why? You said you wouldn't feel bad for voting my slot or Bearbert (pisskop's) slot

After reading the wagons i wouldn't feel bad voting for any of pisskop, Shazam, Spiffeh, Frogger. And wont vote Davsto or Axle.

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I think fro99er was bussing TN there. Didn't feel the interaction there was genuine. I'll probably make a case there sometime soon.

I look forward to this, so you can look like a fool and we can lynch you if I get mislynched today.

Still waiting on that caseBearbert. We don't have much time...

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First of all, the result of my opinion on the VCA, but i was kinda half-assing it at that point, i dont really like being forced into commenting onto VCAs.
Also:

But im liking bearbert now

And what reason did you start liking bearberts posting?

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First of all, the result of my opinion on the VCA, but i was kinda half-assing it at that point, i dont really like being forced into commenting onto VCAs.

Nobody forced you to comment on the VCA.

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Definitely sold on Hana/Bearbert scum. Shazam may admittedly be a bit of omgus...but could also be scum.

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If you think im scum then vote me.

I think you and bearbert are scum and I'm voting Bearbert.

Are you trying to draw the vote because he's scum PR?

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I'm not compromising on Shazam.

I want you or Bearbert, preferably bearbert given your resistance

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First of all, the result of my opinion on the VCA, but i was kinda half-assing it at that point, i dont really like being forced into commenting onto VCAs.
Also:

But im liking bearbert now

And what reason did you start liking bearberts posting?

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Or because i think he's town.

Why?

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P-Edit: I've liked his posting.

I specifically asked why you like his posting?

What posts and for what reasons?

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At this point i think you just think he's scum because he thinks you're scum.

Wrong. I think piss was scum and the role pm didn't change when bearbert replaced in

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Meanwhile have you even bothered to read my points against Fire?

No

Do you like them? Yes/No/Why?

I don't know because I haven't read them

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The conclusion came before the read through. You are misrepping it as a conclusion, which comes at the end of something.

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There's no way anyone can read Bearbert's ISO and think that's town

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If Fire flips scum, then Frogger's scum with Fire.

Eyeroll

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The substance is that as soon as i show my case on you, Frogger tries to derail the conversation back to bearbert.

Yep. Fire and I are scumbuddies

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You are so smart Hana. How did you ever figure us out

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The substance is that as soon as i show my case on you, Frogger tries to derail the conversation back to bearbert.

Yep. Fire and I are scumbuddies

Good to know.

I know right?!

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Ooh!

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VOTE: Fire

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VOTE: Fire

Stop bussing me teammate!

Ok!

VOTE: Bearbert

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Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

Fire should fullclaim rn

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VOTE: Fire

Can't see Sakura pulling a gambit. Sala shot fire so fire is scum BP. Makes sense

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Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

Fire should fullclaim rn

pretty sure he claimed Bulletproof

Yeah I just ISO'd and saw

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I still don’t think both scum bussed though so maybe its null.

I think this is a scum slip by fire.

What does he mean both scum?

Does he mean the two scum other than himself and tn?

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So this confirms Hana as town. Sala slot could still be SK theoretically.

Fire really liked Axle for town in that 2119 wall and hated my push on tn and axle. Said I was "flailing"

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Fire also really liked Shazam.

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Assuming fire flips scum and not SK Shazam is tomorrow's lynch. I know I'm town and Shazam is now linked with fire AND is making a bullshit push on me.

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This is ridiculous.

Why?

Do you think Hana is faking a guilty on you?

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This is ridiculous.

Why?

Do you think Hana is faking a guilty on you?

Because I don't. Hana wouldn't fake a guilty on you because if you flip town she's instalynched tomorrow.

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Like I honestly don't think you are scum, cause when you were scum in that other game you were competent.

Here you are just flipping on everything, and its just annoying.

And this is how i played in my newbie game with axle too. Yet he still thinks I'm scum here.

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cause when you were scum in that other game you were competent.

You see axle...this is why I'm not scum here. I've been an incompetent boob all game

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Cool. I'm going down next. Hana's confbiasing now

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Like I honestly don't think you are scum, cause when you were scum in that other game you were competent.

I see the WIFOMING fire is pulling here. He's trying to bring me down with him.

Hana. Go look over 2119 again. There's no way I'm scum with Fire and tn ffs

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So you're omgus'img. Cool.
You're town, just crappy town like me

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Posts tags too hard apparently
2119

From my phone, yes

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Cool. I'm going down next. Hana's confbiasing now

Do you think i shouldn't have a reason to think you're buddies after you tried to pin me as scum with someone when i was offering you scum on a silver platter?

Here's a reason...I'm town.

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Why done we just lynch me now?

Any cop out there should investigate me.

I assume Ricastle is the NK since scum won't kill me and they won't kill Hana, bearbert, or Shazam (who is prob scum), to ensure my lynch

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Town is fucked.

Shazam is fire's buddy. I'm not

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I'm going to leave as much trail as possible so town doesn't fuck this up any more after I'm mislynched tomorrow

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Why done we just lynch me now?

Can i pull what you just said before and say you're trying to protect scum PR?
Or does it only work when you're saying it.

Sure. Go ahead and believe that.

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VOTE: Ricastle

I have my reasons for doing this.

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Lol. Town is so fucked.

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Frogger made an attempt earlier to suggest there was slip. That if it makes sense is something that could conceivably be in there.

It wasn't an attempt. I'm 100% positive it was a scumslip

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Carry on flailing, Fro99er. It's pretty funny.

I will. I think it's funny too

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All these townies scum reading me while scum sits back...(cough Shazam, cough)

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Pulling out all my Sala nightless flipless moves I can

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I'd rather we lynch me now

VOTE: Fro99er

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VOTE: Fire

I'm so ready for this game to be over.

FlashLynch me tomorrow

FlashLynch Shazam the day after

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I'm solving the game for town

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So you're solving the game for town by Voting claimed Mason and self voting before finally voting caught scum?

Yes

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To be fair, the selfvote was pretty good.

I agree!

Can everyone please sheep me tomorrow and the next day

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This will be good tomorrow it will be 10 left, 6 to lynch.

Frogger(5): frogger, Sakura, Bearbert, axle, Shazam

Then I will unvote and we'll need two more votes to lynch me. Then you guys go FlashLynch Shazam the following day

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I'd really like it though if Ricastle is alive that he let not vote me and let someone else lynch me instead. I want to see which scum end up in my wagon

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What makes you so sure im going to live through the night?
Or are you and your partners already plotting something in your day chat?

Yes.

I plan on not killing you tonight.

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Well, fire has officially been lynched.

We should just start the voting process for tomorrow now

VOTE: Fro99er

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Sala who else do you think is scum?

CAN YOU PLEASE LYNCH THIS GUY TOMORROW!?!?!?!

Jesus.

Spiffeh is conftown

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VOTE: Fro99er

Total policy and you should all sheep me

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(And then vote Shazam tomorrow)

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@Shazam
You have thought Fro99er was scum for a while now.
Who besides Davsto (aka anyone but Davsto) do you think is also scum?
Why?

Sakura Hana. See my iso #26-32. Other than that, you're probably the next on the list for me, for reasons I've explained.

So you are proposing Sakura outed her buddy yesterday, then called me out for being fire's buddy, all while I was also her buddy?

Are you listening to yourself?

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Shazam is proposing a tn, fire, frogger, Sakura team.

Like we'd be mad mad mad bussing if we were a team.

Seriously. Shazam is scum people. Ricastle should let scum lynch me if I'm going to be lynched.

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I mean...I wanted to dead from the start. Then I wanted fire dead right after the rn lynch and at the end of yesterday. Are you listening to yourself people?

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2740's first line is fake as fuck. Davsto+ Shazam? Would explain that weird ass town read from Shazam onto Davsto that I don't think he explained

I did explain it. At least twice iirc. Davsto and me make no sense as a team. Why would I give said "weird ass town read" if I was his partner? That would be colossally stupid. I have not stated an unconfirmed townread on any other player as strongly as I have with Davsto.

VOTE: Fro99er
Could be playing to his wincon as scum, because he might be thinking he can get people off him by self-voting. Can't really be playing to his wincon as town, since him flipping town would not make me scum in any way, but that's why he's willing to kill himself.

Fuck off with this win con shit. I already said I was going to unvote when my wagon built up.

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I'M ALIVE!

VOTE: Shazam

So you think Shazam and I are buddies?

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I was hoping ppl would engage me at least about why i didnt roleblock frogger, but apparently ppl are just too focused arguing.

Then explain.
I have no idea why you RB'd Shazam if you assume I'm scum. If I was scum, I'd have kept Shazam alive so RB'ing him would do nothing.

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VOTE: BananaCucho
Feels the need to respond to every vote, like he's a little insecure about the fact that he's getting votes?

every vote against him*

Please don't start this game with yet another case of early game WIFOM when he's probably just trolling for reactions. You're already jumping at shadows and the game only just started, this isn't healthy mentally speaking for you to be so on edge.

In any case, it's pretty presumptuous for you to assume any motives from Banana's play with barely anything to go on.

I make bold votes like those this early for reactions like that ^^^^^^^

Would you prefer if we twiddle our thumbs joking around for a few more pages?

a) Your vote wasn't particularly "bold", it was just poorly supported.
b) Explain why the reaction is remotely interesting, or more importantly, how it makes him look scum or town.
c) What does your question have to do with anything? tn does not seem to me to be suggesting that we do nothing. He seems to be suggesting that you're too sure of things that you shouldn't be sure about this early. Like Banana being "insecure".

This is basically Shazam's scum claim.

Remember Fire wanted Spiffeh dead and Shazam pushes Spiffeh and defends tn here

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shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others.

Also a scumclaim. He named four confirmed townies and pisskop as his scum reads. This means Pisskop is likely Shazam's buddy, but I need to dig through Shazam's ISO to see if it's piss or Davsto. I'm not gonna confbias, but I do think it's one of the two. VCA and ISO dives should help.

(Yes I know piss is now Bearbert)

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Tbh i was initially gonna RB you.
But then i had some sort of genuinity to your concerns yesterday.
Then i started second guessing myself and decided to RB your scumread.

What led to your change of heart?

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I'd probably prefer to lynch just about everyone but Ricastle over Fro99er.

Ricastle you said you had another mason right? (They shouldn't be outed I just want you to confirm it so if/when you die the mason can be a for sure town voice).

I'm leaning towards the pisskop sub atm because of how piss tried to take credit for putting tn at L-1 earlier when the tn lynch was inevitable anyway. Seeking towncred when there should be none.

Yes! That last paragraph yes!

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Anyway UNVOTE:

Regrettably Axle is misguided town. And Ricastle is town. They should vote scum, not another townie.

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But yes, I will still GLADLY die if people actually lynch scum after lynching me.

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@Fro99er Aero jumped on me around that point too. Are you saying three members of the scum team pressed me that early all at the same time?

IDK, it's possible.

Probably not the smartest thing for them to do but Shazam's defense of tn is more concerning than the push on you, because you haven't flipped yet.

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Axle, read 2781 for your answer Jesus fuck. After this I'm not speaking to you anymore. I'm tired of you derailing town with your pestering of me.

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shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others. You can probably throw out Ricastle for being the first on there (usually scum join an unopposed wagon later). And I'd throw out Salamence because I find him unreadable at this stage. So pisskop, Sakura Hana, Shiro? I'd guess at least one of them is scum. Maybe I should check out their iso's.

Took a look at the parts where they voted IaI. I'd throw pisskop out because he does a weird thing where he votes him when he's already voting him, and seems to be genuinely outraged about IaI claiming to know him. Sakura Hana and Shiro both were kinda like "ok, guess I'll vote this dude". One of them is probably scum. No idea which one yet though.

And of those five he named he then defends pisskop, the only unconfirmed town

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@Shazam
You have thought Fro99er was scum for a while now.
Who besides Davsto (aka anyone but Davsto) do you think is also scum?
Why?

Sakura Hana. See my iso #26-32. Other than that, you're probably the next on the list for me, for reasons I've explained.

So your list is me, Sakura, Axle?

No fucking way I'm scum with either of those two even if I was scum (I'm not)

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Ok me not knowing how Sakura is confirmed town means I need to read this a lot more carefully.

Can someone please enlighten me?

This is embarrassing.

Sakura got a guilty on Fire and outed it. She had no reason to out it at the time she did if she was scum because focus was elsewhere (like my push on Bearbert) and not on her hypothetical buddy, Fire

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Classic OMGUS flailing.

Saving this for when I flip town

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@Shazam - so if Axle and Sakura are not scum with me as you now admit, then who is my hypothetical buddy?

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I was working under the assumption that there were 4 scum, because I thought that I read it somewhere. I can't seem to find it again though.

Fire scumslipped that there were two more scum besides himself and tn

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But wouldn't 5 scum be more balanced here? They get day talk yes, but town has so much firepower

Fire already scumslipped there are four scum. Why are you being so ignorant to it.

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And whatever it was that made Sala's 2nd vig shot not work is a pretty powerful PR for scum...so 4 is most likely even without Fire's scumslip

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VOTE: bearbert[/b]

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VOTE: bearbert

[Fro99er]

that lack of a case on me also feels like buddying up to me now that I'm scum reading Shazam.

[Fro99er]

not buddying, but...town reading...whatever

[Fro99er]

it's an awful convenient time for scum to suddenly town read me knowing I was probably going to be today's lynch...just saying

[Fro99er]

Town: I'd rather Bearbert be the next lynch after me, not Shazam. Make note of this in your personal notes if you keep them

[Fro99er]

Remaining players:

Bearbert D
Sakura Hana - Town
Ricastle - Town
AxleGreaser - Town
Spiffeh - Town
ika
Shazam
Fro99er - Town
Echo Echo - Town
Davsto (probtown? not sure)

[Fro99er]

Here is quote froma cum PT "It would be absolutely epic if we could get an all town lynch of XXXXXX. Currently she's at L-3, with none of us voting her."

Full disclosure, this was me in BEES saying that. Axle thinks I'm doing that here too.

[Fro99er]

Of course, this is mostly assuming scum!Beartbert, but I thought I might as well say it here rather than being accused of "suddenly townreading Echo" upon the flip.

FWIW, I don't think you and Bear are scum together if Bear flips scum.

[Fro99er]

It's pretty easy to figure out the 3rd mason...

[Fro99er]

can we just lynch bearbert now. please

[Fro99er]

just stupidly tunneled

so my push on Shazam earlier this day phase is me tunneling you?

Get lost

[Fro99er]

He's too focused on incorrectly getting me lynched

[Fro99er]

But why not lynch Davsto today and think about frogger tomorrow.

Oh boy...lining up lynches...even on someone you are now suddenly townreading (me)

[Fro99er]

quick hypothetical Axle, because when I flip town you won't know what to do.

Who is your scum team when I flip town?

[Fro99er]

Who is your scum team when I flip town?

See 2865?

that's not an answer ffs

[Fro99er]

Who is your scum team when I flip town?

See 2865?

that's not an answer ffs

name a specific scum team for when I flip town.

[Fro99er]

Axle, I'm trying to actually fucking get you to give this serious consideration because I promise you I WILL flip town, and you need to start thinking about other possibilities in case you are wrong (which you are).

It's going to be so great laughing at you post game for your idiotic tunnel of me.

[Fro99er]

Go ahead and keep scum reading me, but I just want you to consider the post frogger town flip world.

[Fro99er]

^@axle

[Fro99er]

Where and who is scum.

and what have you been doing about that?

For fucks sake I just gave a full reads list.

Scum is in

Bearbert
Shazam
ika
Davsto

Davsto and Bearbert cannot be scumbuddies together.

Everyone else is conftown in my mind.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: frogger

I'm so sick of this game.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: frogger

I'm so sick of this game.

This is pointless. Just vote Davsto

No.

[Fro99er]

PoE Axle, it's really that simple

[Fro99er]

everyone else is conftown in my mind, so there's only 4 candidates left.

I guess in some strange world Sakura could have pulled off a strange gambit by getting her buddy lynched, or you could still be scum (highly doubtful, scum isn't daring enough to push my mislynch that hard), but that's really about it.

Bearbert is the most likely scum, and I'm torn on Shazam and ika for the second most likely.

[Fro99er]

you apparently have no clue how i play mafia.

Sure I do...poorly

[Fro99er]

thanks

[Fro99er]

VOTE: bearbert

[Fro99er]

Nice AtE

Thank you. I AtE well. Mostly sushi, but had a bit of salad as well.

[Fro99er]

yet also claiming i am bad.

cuz you are. You're so lost in the weeds of this tunnel, you haven't really given serious consideration to what happens when i flip town other than "blah blah".

A good townie, while still wrongly being convinced I'm scum, at least would have an idea of where to go after. It seems you are fixated on me, davsto, shazam, and bear...not realizing only davsto could possibly be my buddy if I were scum

[Fro99er]

confirmation bias is a hell of a drug

[Fro99er]

you are approaching all of my stances from the viewpoint I am scum, and fitting that viewpoint to your interpretation of my posts.

[Fro99er]

In the end however you wore out and broke all the belief that I had that you were town instead.

I know. I'm fine with that. I will enjoy laughing at you later.

[Fro99er]

anyway, I think ika wanted that VC because he was ready to hammer me.

[Fro99er]

anyway, I think ika wanted that VC because he was ready to hammer me.

not realizing I wasn't at L-1 yet, but hoping I was

[Fro99er]

Will do at some point before lynch.

Ok. That's not my recollection, but I'll reread

I'll let the case on fro99er after we lynch firebringer.

Why do you keep putting things off?

[Fro99er]

what do you think about now made now the right time for your scum read to hammer?

Is this English?

[Fro99er]

The lasr one is obvious. What is the point of me making a case on frogger when firebringer was 100% getting lynched?

because you said the same thing WAY earlier before fire was even outed by Sakura

[Fro99er]

Ok, good to know Ricastle's town.

I've read D1. And I think fro99er was bussing TN there. Didn't feel the interaction there was genuine. I'll probably make a case there sometime soon.

Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

[Fro99er]

so you are playing revisionist history Bear

[Fro99er]

Oh, so you're now changing your story from "The lasr one is obvious. What is the point of me making a case on frogger when firebringer was 100% getting lynched?" to

I said I will at some point(because a proper case takes at least three hours to write) and when I started writing it I noticed Sakura outed Firebringer

[Fro99er]

And I've already posted the summary. Which from content alone is already as good as anything you've posted, frogger.

Wrong

[Fro99er]

It may not be right(as I believe now), but it's still more work

You're full of complete horse shit if you think I haven't done any work

[Fro99er]

Oh, so you're scum reading me again?

[Fro99er]

And yes, Davsto is my scumbuddy. You are genius.

[Fro99er]

@mod replace me out

I'm done with this game

Lynch among Bear, Davsto, Shazam and ika and town wins

[Fro99er]

fuck it, i'll stay in...rescinding my replace out request

[Fro99er]

I will start by assuming Slaadar is scum and read until i find evidence hes not, and then go from there. Ok.

Slaandar flipped town

[Fro99er]

As for Slandaar, last time I didnt listen to him I led a lynch on the friendly neighbor and town lost.

And last time I didn't listen to you, I almost cost town the game.

So yeah.

This is a hard buddying.

actually, you know what. I have no reason to town read tn. Just felt like it in heat of the moment.

VOTE: tn5421[/v]

What the

fuck

?

Interesting stuff by Aero trying to paint me as scum.

[Fro99er]

I make bold votes like those this early for reactions like that ^^^^^^^

Would you prefer if we twiddle our thumbs joking around for a few more pages?

ew ew ew

VOTE: spiffeh

Yeah that was a little corny

But want to elaborate?

The amount of times i've heard scum say something with similar phrasing to that could go around Tatooine 15 times at least.

Yep...spiffeh is definitely conftown

[Fro99er]

Davis is afk living his life probably, don't get too worked up about it.

I want to know what tn meant by this???

[Fro99er]

Who is Davis?

[Fro99er]

Because if Davis is Davsto, and scum have daytalk, this could be a smoking gun

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Davsto

[Fro99er]

Prolly me, I was away for that time because 6AM and people were asking things like "where is this guy anyway", commenting on my not-being-there-ness.

Yeah, but he said you were off "living your life". I guess tn could have meant "sleep" but I don't think that's what tn was implying by "living your life"

[Fro99er]

That vote from Fro99er alone is enough to make me sus him

THis is really shitty scumhunting technique

[Fro99er]

Oh yeh I forgot to vote, sometimes I rush.

VOTE: Fro99er

OMGUS!

[Fro99er]

So Shazam, Davsto and Bear all scum read me now.

I'm definitely buddies with one of them

[Fro99er]

So Shazam, Davsto and Bear all scum read me now.

I'm definitely buddies with one of them

Cuz it's not like bussing is a common tactic or anything.

So you believe I bussed tn, I bussed fire, and I bussed my other buddy Shazam or Bear?

And fire bussed me, and tn bussed me and Shazam or Bear bussed me?

You are fucking great at this game.

[Fro99er]

fact is - tn hard defended you, Aero didn't mention you ONCE, and fire listed you as null

[Fro99er]

@Dav, then make an actual case on me other than OMGUS me for finding evidence on you.

[Fro99er]

Aeronaut - hasn't said anything for a while so I'm not sure, but I like a couple of things he's said.

Very

slight townlean.
tn5421 - Decent posts, I guess. Very slight townlean.

A few of these are more gut-based than evidence based. Ignoring potential associative reads ahead of flips because that is silly thing to do.

[Fro99er]

Fact is, I put decent effort into the TN lynch (which you ignored) Aero made very few posts and didn't mention several people once, and I jumped straight onto Fire once he was incriminated, rather than jumping off halfway through like you did.

Cuz it's not like bussing is a common tactic or anything.

[Fro99er]

I haven't seen much else from tn that I particularly dislike. Convince me.

ISO me Dav and CTRL-F "tn"

Fair enough. That's enough points.

VOTE: tn5421

[Fro99er]

yeah, someone convinced you to vote TN...nice efforting there

[Fro99er]

Spoiler: dav case on tn

My vote on him is RVS, why are you still trying to attach meaning to it, @Fro99er?

Claims the vote is RVS, when you can see here...

VOTE: AxleGreaser

I'm really not impressed by your first post.

Also, Sakura and I agreeing on a point? The world must be ending.

There is definitely some reasoning behind it. Doesn't look super random to me. Seems like an attempt to avoid scrutiny for his vote by just going "oh it's not serious it's RVS".

So are you saying that having any reason whatsoever discludes any vote ever from being rvs, despite the reason being obviously silly?

No, what sala has to say at this point in the game is not important in the slightest.

Then tries to downplay this by saying it was a "silly reason". Doesn't look that silly to me, a lot of people might have not liked Axle's first post.

Why does everyone feel the need to talk in stifling absolutes on day one, not even 20 pages into a game? Who's to say that frogger/piss aren't scum together, Sala?

Also, I scumread frogger for 151/152

VOTE: fro99er

Saying that he scumreads someone because of a post but not

why.

Also, seems like a while to take to remove a supposed RVS vote.

Shazam feels town for his push on Spiffeh. Spiffeh supposedely read the thread twice and didn't respond to Shazam's (a)(b)(c) questioning of him. Shazam came back with the good point that if Spiffeh read the thread twice, he would have seen the questions to him and responded.

Doesn't make Spiffeh confirmed scum, but it does make me feel good about Shazam.

Also, replying to tn in that way is towny...he wants to hear what everyone says. Tn was just blowing off sala with "No, what sala has to say at this point in the game is not important in the slightest."

His opinion holds no weight because he hates day one.

Arbitrarily disregarding someone's opinion is stupid and anti-town. Who knows, they might make good points that you miss by stubbornly ignoring them.

I feel like Aero is trying to scum read. Just a gut feeling.

Wow, someone is trying to form reads and follow up on them, must be scummy. /s

Who said it was scummy? Seems like he took something someone said and made it sound like it was reaching for scumreads, when it was just a Captain Obvious statement.

I'm pretty sure he said he wouldn't really be posting until tonight which gives him a few more hours of leeway. I don't understand why you're in such a rush to lynch him before he can participate in the game, and I don't like it in the slightest.

VOTE: Salamence20

For someone whose opinion "holds no weight", you're getting quite upset by his opinions, such as who he votes.

On the other hand, I've read Mario's last 5 posts and am convinced that he's scum.

VOTE: MarioManiac4

Weak reason to jump on the biggest on-town wagon.

Salamence is going and acting scummy as fuck again, can i quit now please because i know nobody will ever lynch it

VOTE: Salamence20

Using self-meta to try to clear yourself is scummy as fuck and I'm done with putting up with your shit.

We've already talked about the odd jumping off the big wagon thing in previous posts, but I thought I'd put it here anyway.

Stop trying to minimize my vote on davsto. There is what, probably 4 or 5 bad guys this game? D1 I have no problem voting any scum read (I had 3 after my catch up post) or null reads (5 at the same time).

D1 is about pressuring people, seeing how they react, gaining reads. Yes

that

preflip association

made me

feel better

about it, but as the lack of interest on my 3 scum wagons continued, I was pretty ready to move to my null reads next anyway.

Die in a fire, preferably with Salamence20.

VOTE: I Am Innocent

...and then jumps onto a different wagon too. Not liking this. Seems like he knows he's off the town wagon and thus can throw around his vote to whoever he wants.

That good?

So there was effort. Now I need to sort out if that's a bus or not.

[Fro99er]

I don't know. After reading that case, I'm not convinced I latched onto something correct...

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