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THx!
no please answer these :
1 - why shiro is so down in your list ?
2 - why you have a kind of null read about Heat ?
3 - why your strongly town reading Elyse? (you stated your not scum reading her - not town reading her this much)False tears bring pain to those around you
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now*False tears bring pain to those around you
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and can you please clarify your reads on Dave ?False tears bring pain to those around you
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Mod I think Pistachion and Heat need some prods
hopefully we can replace Pistachion this time!
/No Offense Pista but Your inactivity is not what we need atmFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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ok we w8...False tears bring pain to those around you
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Your respond to first part was like omgus.
and role fishing? :/ ... ? It was more like blaming for a soft claim...False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 1829, Shinobi wrote:Esp is not scum, do something else Nero.
Well I don't like to talk about Esp himself
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Esp you need to give us your full read list ...False tears bring pain to those around you
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Whats your stance about Elyse ?
Your happy about Elyse for calling Titus in 1v1?
Whats your stance about Nero and his reads about you?
whats your stance about Shinobi ?False tears bring pain to those around you
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Drixx are you reading Esp posts? or just skimming them?False tears bring pain to those around you
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UNVOTE:
I need to rereadFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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There is something between Shinobi - Esp
I need to know its townish or scum
anybody else saw that?False tears bring pain to those around you
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look shinobi ISO and tell me .False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 521, Shinobi wrote:In post 400, Espeonage wrote:
It's above it.
Not buying the mario wagon so counter is still up for grabs until the dav wagon took off which I haven't looked at yet.
In post 1829, Shinobi wrote:Esp is not scum, do something else Nero.
his all interactions with Esp ^
I mean it seems he knew Esp alignment since start ... he ignored my question why ... I'm kind of curious about the situation at hand ...
Shinobi acted really focused whole game long.
My gut says something is not right here.False tears bring pain to those around you
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People don't forget manners please! :/False tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm moving on my second scum read atm :
VOTE: heat
I think heat's day 1 was really worth lynching. plus his day 2 posts were just heating up the wagons. Heat never contributed anything to the game so far.
I can be convinced about Dav and pista as well. their next in lineFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2065, Frozen Angel wrote:I can be convinced about Dav and pista as well. their next in line
and AjFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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sorry everyone. don't have time for my all games atm
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In post 2176, Shiro wrote:In post 2163, Titus wrote:It's not endorsed by the order of Shiro.
I dunno I mean. I am voting pignash right now.
I think town is shattered apart.
I mean everyone have some townreads atm. I think scums are so distributed and completely over the place . I'm twon reading Dave and pig wagon , Elyse is definitely town. and I know I'm town.
the 4 wagons of this game are not scum driven. so I think its attacking the real scums (that's why scums don't wanna try to push a wagon and buddy each other)
that being said I'm ok with a dave / pig lynch atm.
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In post 2182, pignash wrote:Stop it. You're not lynching me today.
Let's lynch Dave so we can someTimes somewhere useful. Get to her backup plan.
why is that?
whats your current read on titus?False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2191, pignash wrote:Characterizing me as whining isn't really what I'm doing. I'm expressing frustration that I'm an easy mislynch. I am fairly sure story's is town and she thinks Dave is scum so I am willing to go with that. I was ISOing Heat yesterday cuz something seemed off but nothing jumped off the page as "I'm scummy!"
then don't be an easy mislynch if your town.
I want to see your reads. If you think there is scum in your wagon who is that?
if you think there is no scum in your wagon why you think your getting lynched by town atm? who is throwing shade on you from distanse?
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In post 2192, Frozen Angel wrote:if you think there is no scum in your wagon why you think your getting lynched by town atm? who is throwing shade on you from distanse?False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2199, pistachi0n wrote:I'll definitely note that if pignash flips scum.
Is that a treat? I'm trying to see his stance atm. what are you doing ? taking notes?False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2204, pistachi0n wrote:In post 2202, pignash wrote:People are on my wagon to punish not talking enough. I think that's good in theory but I just don't have a lot of good scum reads yet.
I haven't talked much either and even I have some scum reads...
Whats this exactly?!!!!!!!!False tears bring pain to those around you
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so why are you scum reading them. engage with me.False tears bring pain to those around you
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hello! everyone. sorry for my awkward disappearance. I was in a very bad place in IRL.
I'm trying to catch up asapFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Is there anything suspicious about me you wanna ask me about?
I'm here to answer them.False tears bring pain to those around you
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caught up.
my reads didn't change at all. I think I'm staying with pig - I might agree with pista , Nero seems a bit weird ,and dave posts contain no content.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2364, Grib wrote:Also, please answer the following questions with nothing less than complete and total honesty.
1) Are you mafia?
2) Are you okay with being Cop checked?
since you asked respectably!
1) no!
2) well, I think that won't solve much because of my role .False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2363, Grib wrote:In post 2361, Frozen Angel wrote:Is there anything suspicious about me you wanna ask me about?
I'm here to answer them.
Could you go into detail on your read on Drixx?
drixx was a very town lean null slot in day 1 for me. when I saw titus brought up him in her town block I got shocked because I wasn't so sure about that. his attack on Elyse makes total sense to me. and his conversation with dave is not something I count scummy.
But I just don't like the amount of logic in his arguments. we're playing with humans here and I think viewing everything in a logical surface is a kind of ignoring some important facts.
his recent post answering to Esp makes me think there is something fishy going on here. that I will talk about it in my later posts.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2367, Grib wrote:Are you a Miller or an Ascetic?
Even-nights something.... I'm not sure if I must role claim or not.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I think I don't like to claim.
But I must insist in the wasting thing. I really appreciate day time interacting with me. night result on me won't tell you what you want.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2371, Grib wrote:You said you might agree with a pistachi0n lynch. Why, and what's stopping you?
nothing is stopping me. both pig and pista have a shitty ISO.
pig has 41 posts , always defensive , he has no solid read. just town lean and some agreements on finding others scummy.
pista has 51 posts , always 1 line , throwing stuff without reasons , branching everywhere, never defended himself at all , his only single solid reads are Aj->scum and titus->town and he never tried for these reads.
so I'm happy with both wagons. prefered pig atm.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2372, Frozen Angel wrote:pista has 51 posts , always 1 line , throwing stuff without reasons , branching everywhere, never defended himself at all , his only single solid reads are Aj->scum and titus->scumand he never tried for these reads.
sorry fixed :/
I think both of them are equally bad. but at least pista is trying ... I don't know. why you think pista is a better option than pig?False tears bring pain to those around you
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Drixx wrote:What "facts" am I ignoring, FA?
In post 2366, Frozen Angel wrote:But I just don't like the amount of logic in his arguments. we're playing with humans here and I think viewing everything in a logical surface is a kind of ignoring some important facts.
I'm not a fan of full logical arguments. I think their never go deep enough to hunt the scum. they depends on the scum to slip and come to surface.
I think a combination of emotional and logical analyses are better
Drixx wrote:If you're going to come at me, you better be prepared to back it up.
what?!!! when I said I want to come at you?! your in my town lean listFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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You know , better than anyone here that I'm an emotional player. and your throwing shades on me?
I think emotional analyses are not dumb and somehow , in some situations better approaches to solve the game. you want my examples?!False tears bring pain to those around you
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talking to titus ...False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2353, Drixx wrote:I'm trying to decide if you are scum trying to push this for town cred or to get people to abandon their usual strategies for finding scum ... or if you're sincere. I honestly cannot tell. You present like you are trying to logically prove something, but if you understood the basic rules of logic, you would already have concluded that you cannot know whether your premises are sound and therefore you cannot trust any conclusions. The only thing you can do is wait and see if evidence of multi-ball shows up, at which point you can say you were "right", although it would be more a case of a blind squirrel finding a nut in this case. Your logic is unsound and therefore your conclusion does not logically follow.
In other words ... if you end up being right, it will be because you got lucky and nothing more.
Esp and shinobi buddied. It was more obvious than the day.
this post here makes me think Drixx knows Esp alignment as well. I have no Idea what I'm suggesting but this connection was weird. this was what I wanted to mention in post 2366False tears bring pain to those around you
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talking a lot about he doesn't know about Esp alignment then suggesting that he was just lucky about knowing the multiball thing is weird.
plus I'm voting my read atm.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Why pista is more scummy than the pig?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm shadowy voting for both of them. But I can't see a priority here.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2395, Titus wrote:Pignash has content in short bursts. He gets attacked by my scumreads every time he shows up for trivial things, making it hard to contribute.
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The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2404, Titus wrote:In post 2403, Frozen Angel wrote:The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.
If that was the case, why can't we wagon anyone?
Becuase town and scums are divided. as I said before I'm guessing we're hitting scum(s) so they can't buss or defend the wagon(s) all together.False tears bring pain to those around you
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You , Dave , Pistachion and pignash
I'm sure there is a scum in here. Lets see the wagons of these 4 in a list :
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Titus —Davsto,Espeonage,Elyse,pistachi0n
Davsto —Firebringer,Titus,Dwlee99,Drixx
pignash —Shinobi,Shiro,Nero Cain,Frozen Angel,Firebringer
pistachi0n —pignash,Grib,Titus,Dwlee99,Drixx
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I need to think more.
pedit : are you skimming my posts?False tears bring pain to those around you
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and Nero is buddying titus?!False tears bring pain to those around you
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sorry:
Blue : conf-town
Green : town
yellow : null
Orange : scum lean
Red : seems scumFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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its kind of brown not yellow
and nulls contains both slight town lean and slight scum leans as well (their not 100% null)False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2417, pistachi0n wrote:In post 2410, Frozen Angel wrote:and Nero is buddying titus?!
What gives you that impression? They seem quite antagonistic.
you said that. not me. I got surprised when I heard it from you :
pistachi0n wrote:In post 2404, Titus wrote:In post 2403, Frozen Angel wrote:The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.
If that was the case, why can't we wagon anyone?
In post 2403, Frozen Angel wrote:The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.
Who's buddying, aside from Nero on Titus?False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2415, pignash wrote:So are you drawing any conclusions from that? Because I don't see anything particularly useful.
useful facts!
1 - heat and Aj (both scum lean) are not in any of the four wagons. Aj is voting Heat .
2 - Titus wagon is "follow the confirmed town" wagon. there is nothing there against Titus besides Elyse gut read. Esp is the best voter in that wagon.
3 - I'm not scumreading anyone in Dave wagon. although I can't see why people scumread dave more than Pistachian and pignash.
4 - Pig wagon seems to have 3 town , 1 null and 1 scum lean. pista wagon seems to have 2 town , 2 null and 1 scum lean. So i can't really see the priority of pista wagon atm.
5 - Grib is not in dave case with titus town block(titus- dweele- drix)
6 - Titus is screaming Shiro everywhere but they have no similar votes.
7 - Firebringer and shiro are not willed to be on pista wagon.(as it seems)False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2415, pignash wrote:So are you drawing any conclusions from that? Because I don't see anything particularly useful.
useful facts!
1 - heat and Aj (both scum lean) are not in any of the four wagons. Aj is voting Heat .
2 - Titus wagon is "follow the confirmed town" wagon. there is nothing there against Titus besides Elyse gut read. Esp is the best voter in that wagon.
3 - I'm not scumreading anyone in Dave wagon. although I can't see why people scumread dave more than Pistachian and pignash.
4 - Pig wagon seems to have 3 town , 1 null and 1 scum lean. pista wagon seems to have 2 town , 2 null and 1 scum lean. So i can't really see the priority of pista wagon atm.
5 - Grib is not in dave case with titus town block(titus- dweele- drix)
6 - Titus is screaming Shiro everywhere but they have no similar votes.
7 - Firebringer and shiro are not willed to be on pista wagon.(as it seems)False tears bring pain to those around you
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bad network connection sorryFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2424, Titus wrote:Your wall is IioA. You can do better.
I was telling information there. I said I'm telling information there!
I said they are some facts we need to consider themFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2430, Grib wrote:I'd feel much, much better about her if she had done it of her own volition instead of in response to me asking about her being Cop'd, but alas.
there must be a reason. Think more or stop talking about it.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2427, Drixx wrote:Please read my posts carefully. I use language carefully and you seem to have missed a very important word. Let me add emphasis to help: First I talk about the terrible logic being employed to try and claim the game is multiball without any actual evidence ... and then I finish the post by saying: "In other words... if you end up being right, it will be because you got lucky and nothing more. (Emphasis added)
yep , titus explained it. sorry. I'm not native english always loosing 1 or two words in posts.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 2427, Drixx wrote:Oh ... seems it means null? Null != town lean, does it?
your a slight town lean . which is in null category. explained in next post!False tears bring pain to those around you
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Sorry for not answering these before, I was in a kind of rush.
In post 2424, Titus wrote:1) You state AJ and Heat are avoiding the larger wagons. What does this state about their alignments?
> well if my theory is correct their likely the frustrated scums who can't buss/white knight anymore because their friends are doing that.
In post 2424, Titus wrote:2) Why is Espy the best voter on my wagon?
> because dave vote is simply OMGUS and pista states he just want to follow the conf town which is absurd. Shiro is the conf town and I wasn't talking about her - even though I'm not a fan of that gut read.
In post 2424, Titus wrote:3) What is your read on Dave? If you weren't scumreading anyone there, why not hop on and see where it went. Why stay neutral?
> well , I don't know if dave is scum or not. I have nothing suggest that. I never stayed Natural I was following my greater scum reads.
In post 2424, Titus wrote:4) You seem to be implying that wagon composition would be a good way to vote. If so, why did you not vote Dave?
> I was just simply telling some facts about wagons to show you why I think scum is so separate atm. your reason about pista wagon is not right. that was what I was trying to say in my point 4
> ?!!
Grib and Shiro and FB (in a lower degree) who your calling town with you (which I don't have any problem with town reading them) never voted with you.
I must state your town block is divided atm : Drixx - Dweele who are voting with you everywhere and Shiro-Grib who are not. I'm feeling better about the second group - not related to your alignment at all.False tears bring pain to those around you
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FB clarify your reads on Shiro - Titus - Pistachion please ...False tears bring pain to those around you
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