New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Aristophanes]

Ego

This is my first NY game!
How exciting!

[Aristophanes]

@Mod
There had better be pictures of Kittens when I get caught up!
Bonus points for Guns & Roses Kittens!

=D

[Aristophanes]

We currently have 3 days with deadline on Tuesday. What're your thoughts so far?
Did you know your predecessor was brought all the way into L-2, before your replace in? You know you replaced into a scum slot, right?

Yeah, I noticed the deadline. That's why I'm not delaying this catchup much. Starting it momentarily.

Was it a lurk-out or ragequit or what? And what happened to the wagon?

I know I didn't replace into a scumslot. Your intel is incorrect, sir!

Dammit Perf! Stop ninja'ing me!!!

[Aristophanes]

<3

This pleases me!

Those saying we should let rubeus be replaced, did you forget he replaced Ness who was actually scummy?

Potential double replacement already?
Yuck

[Aristophanes]

Isn't lurking out your wagon when you are nearly at lynch essentially a scum claim?

For the record; NOW I'm saying I think the slot is scum and we should finish it off.

Is this directed at my slot or Rubeus/Ness slot?

[Aristophanes]

No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

Unless deadline...amirite?

[Aristophanes]

Aero said we'll get an extension if there's a replacement tho Ari
Wait what the hell who did Ari replace wtf

Aero really is the greatest!

Also, Hi Cakez!
Thanks for noticing my arrival. I feel so loved...

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes, you drinking tonight!?!?!?
I might be too.

Hiiii! *waves*

Moreso drinking and reading than posting, but it still counts right?

[Aristophanes]

Inb4 I get prodded.

I'll read D2 at least throughout the weekend. That's the best I can offer atm.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Aristo

Nice to see you too, Slandarr! Any reason for this right outta the gates D2?

[Aristophanes]

aristo, want to be town buddies?
I have to warn you, my last town buddy died on me though ;(

I'm good at dying on you, so I have all the required qualifications!
I'm in!

Who are we thinking is scum, FB?

[Aristophanes]

Drixx right now, Haven't looked into many more people. Kind of think Egg is town, meh.

Eggcellent!

VOTE: Drixx

Townbloc ho!

[Aristophanes]

[quote="In post 1121, KickAssAndGiggle"

VOTE: Aristo

Nice to see you too, Slandarr! Any reason for this right outta the gates D2?

He went into detail in post 1055 and I thought it was quite a good case.[/quote]I see!
Haven't read that far yet.

[Aristophanes]

Screwed the code on mobile. Sorry!!!

[Aristophanes]

This guy Ilikebugs, is too funny. I haven't gotten a scumread from him in this game. I'm curious, what do you think about Aristophanes and the Boon replace out?

Does anyone really have a read on me? I'm curious.

[Aristophanes]

Probably Frag.

I'm scumreading Drixx independently of the wagon. Then I think there's another scum in DGB, Jam, and you if Drixx is town. If Frag is town too, there may even be two in that trio. For what it's worth, I've been townreading you and was townreading GoldRob (DGB's slot) so Jam is probably my next pick after Frag and Drixx. I also started to second guess my town read on Kickass at one point yesterday, but I want to see more before I decide whether to 180 there.

Then there's Firebringer. He was off the wagon, but that's after openly admitting he wouldn't play the game on Day 1 so he's a VCA wild card. I still think Creature was the scummiest player in the game and I really don't like Firebringer's style so that's where I'd like to lynch today.

So you want a Fire lynch because predecessor and playstyle? How bad was Creature??
And Fire just has a unique and fun style. Doesn't mean scum.

[Aristophanes]

This game is so hard to get through ;_;

[Aristophanes]

UNVOTE:

Hold on, I mixed him up with someone else.
VOTE: Aristophanes
Complete vanishing act on d2 and I wasn't townreading him on the first day. Based on Slandaar's behavior and what I've seen of Slandaar's town meta, I'm inclined to trust him. Fire's gradual behavior on d2 hasn't made him my top scumread anymore.

@Slandaar who are your other scumreads? Do you happen to share any on my list?

Note that I see what you are implying and can tell you it's not a thing.

Also, Slandarr had barely anything resembling a case on me. To sheep that is baaaaad.

[Aristophanes]

And he posts a case like 5 later. I disagree in theory and based on knowing my own role, with his case in 1055.

What compelled you to vote me prior to him presenting said case,Performer?

[Aristophanes]

I disagree in theory

What exactly do you disagree with?

This is a reminder to self that I have to go back and do this for you.

Fire, why is DGB welcome in our block?

Egg, Fire is doing things, just not in your style of things. JS.

[Aristophanes]

KAAG is town. Fire and Drixx are both annoying. Aristo is null leaning scum.
I want to look back at the interactions between the Fire slot and the Drixx slot.

What makes me lean to the scum side of things?

VOTE: Aristo

And I'm pretty sure my vote is staying firmly planted here.

Once again, ya got a reason?
It's nice to see you doing things this game, but doing this constitutes doing the wrong things.
Why is this vote so firm?

[Aristophanes]

Why don't you want DGB in our little bloc Aristo?

I am undecided on whether they should be in or not.
Honestly, I don't have a read on them yet.
Lemme do a quick ISO and let you know. I'm pretty sure I can read her, seeing as I had her pegged pretty quickly in Paint Mafia.

[Aristophanes]

(I'm gonna read 44-50 first as I'm still not caught up on D2, nevermind D1)

[Aristophanes]

boring.

can we quick Lynch someone yet?

Who?

[Aristophanes]

im thinking drixx or fragger. they bug me so far.

Seems to be the consensus..

[Aristophanes]

*Popcorn.gif*

[Aristophanes]

Hey there Kuroi!!!

*waves*

[Aristophanes]

That's a bit jumbled I think, considering I replaced Kop but we're both on there.

Also, 21 out of 18 possible votes are accounted for.

JS so you know to clean it up a bit

[Aristophanes]

That said, I don't particularly like your lynch anymore, everyone should just sheep me and lynch Aristo.

Nah, that's a boring proposition bro.

[Aristophanes]

Vote: Aristo

He hasn't said his reads, and he isn't defending himself. I see him more as scum than town rn.

I am still forming said reads, and I said I'd defend myself later (tonight being the later). There isn't even a case on myself really, so to defend myself is near impossible.

What would you like me to address?

[Aristophanes]

I need to ISO Aristo & catch up on what I've missed.

There isn't much there yet.

[Aristophanes]

That said, I don't particularly like your lynch anymore, everyone should just sheep me and lynch Aristo.

Is this because of Kop's Day 1 still or is there something after that? If it's Kop's Day 1, can you refresh my memory on the case?

1055
It's all about Kop

[Aristophanes]

Egg: You picking up on what I am?

You've softed at Egg?

[Aristophanes]

I'm sure now. I'm pretty sure Egg can't help but see it too.

I hate it when people do cryptic shit like this

[Aristophanes]

That said, I don't particularly like your lynch anymore, everyone should just sheep me and lynch Aristo.

Is this because of Kop's Day 1 still or is there something after that? If it's Kop's Day 1, can you refresh my memory on the case?

1055
It's all about Kop

I asked Slandaar.

Drixx, no.

Sorry for linking the case?
I didn't think that really counted as answering for someone else.
If he has a case on my own play, wants to add anything to that post, or just say "just 1055" then that's fine.

Dafuq is wrong with providing you a link to his case!?

[Aristophanes]

Okay, my apologies for interjection then.

[Aristophanes]

Drixx, that makes sense. Like he doesn't want us discussing reads on him and getting more information. Not like he's trying to stop us, but like he's uncomfortable with it. Hmm.

Unvote, Vote Aris

I want to see where this goes.

Hahahaha I linked you to the case on my slot, so I'm obviously uncomfortable with you guys discussing it and getting information.
Obviously!

That's actually whack, I hope you know.

[Aristophanes]

"Oh, Oh-Oh-Oh, Sweet kitten of miiiiiiiiine!"

XD
Wonderful!

[Aristophanes]

I view egg as the origination of the wagon on me. He hasn't been super overtly pushing it, but he's doing a lot of questions directed at other people that lead to them voicing support for or even voting me. That strikes me as a bit of a manipulative way to go about getting a wagon on someone without appearing to have your hands dirty. Ergo, I'm trying to sort him.

Actually, I was compromising on you because people won't sheep my Creature case.

Fair enough. That mostly satisfies what was bothering me about how you were interacting with the wagon on me. Apart from the reasoning against me just being really bad, I'm wondering why nobody is picking up on some of the really scummy stuff going on, nor the fact that there's literally no resistance to my wagon and no real counterwagon. Not everyone going all lemming on me can be scum, I don't think, but some self-awareness from the town would be a good thing right about now.

@Guy - Really?

I'm going to go with what caught my attention and do this:

VOTE: Aristophanes


That said, Guy popping in and just blatantly prod dodging and intentionally lurking out the day strikes me as something to be concerned about.


P-Edit: Actually Aristophanes, I've lost count of how many scum get paranoid and get caught by posts like the ones you made. Pointing out that you linked to a case against you doesn't change the fact that you are intercepting questions meant for other people and seem paranoid at super general comments. I made the super general comments just to see if you would bite, and you did.

And, for the record, in SMITE I was last scum alive for a really long time and like two day phases before the final showdown (which I won), I literally pointed someone in the game to the evidence they needed to confirm me as scum, and that player didn't bother to look because he assumed I would only point him to it if it backed my claim. Pointing at a case against you is a clever scum play, because it's one of those things that "scum wouldn't do".

I'm really not yet invested enough to give a shit if you lynch me, so whatever.

I'm town and I have a few pages left to be caught up on D2 events. I can only really comment on what I've seen and know, and that happens to be things centered around me.

Pointing out the case was meant both to be helpful and to maybe have someone finally make a case actually based upon things I have done, rather than Kop (Which, almost ironically, was achieved in you making this case, even if it is incorrect.)

Before you and Egg, the votes on me have been piling up with little to no reasoning, or based on things I could not defend against, a I had not done them myself.

So, thanks for making a proper case on me, but you're wrong, so please retract it.

[Aristophanes]

Kuroi, for you, I'm gonna actually start trying in this game.
Your catchups have me feeling inspired!

[Aristophanes]

Strong Town: Aristophanes, SomethingSmart
Lean Town: Ozgin, Drixx, Firebringer, Egg, Yume, Iraonavp, Fraggernaut
Null: Performer
Lean Scum: Killthestory, Ilikebugs, KickAssAndGiggle
Strong Scum: GuyFawkes, SnarkySnowman, DrippingGoofball

I also want to suggest maybe a lynch on DrippingGoofball. I've been having a lot of scummy feeling toward him and looking back, I remember that he replaced GoldenRobster, whom I also had a lot of scummy feelings toward.

these reads suck ass

Kiroi had a good catchup and is probably town.
Why are you harping on everything he does?!?

[Aristophanes]

because it's absolutely terrible.

why would i be calling it bad if it wasnt?

What makes it terrible then?

[Aristophanes]

the fact that most of those reads are wrong

aristo i like you, but this isnt that hard to see

Aw thanks! I like you too!

Which reads are the most out of place to you?

[Aristophanes]

so overall i don't agree with 10 of their reads.

i think im allowed to say that their reads are ass at that point, no?

Alright, I'll give you that. I also really appreciate the breakdown there!

[Aristophanes]

kuro is p strong town for me.

Despite you hating his reads?

Also, Happy Birthday yo!!!

[Aristophanes]

Aris, you can be uncomfortable and still post a link. Read the beginning of the post. I don't think you were trying to stop the discussion. I just think you are uncomfortable about it. Your reply (sarcasm and implying I'm dumb) does nothing to change my mind by the way. Actually, your reply to Drixx (saying you were trying to get a case made on you and then asking him to retract his) is far scummier than your reply to me.

Meh, I'm bad at this game sometimes. Oh well.

I also did honestly want an actual case if people were going to vote me. So I appreciated there being a case.
The case was wrong though, so I addressed that as well.
I don't see what's wrong with at least wanting legitimate reasons when people vote you.

[Aristophanes]

Frag, pisskop and sircake were the NKs. Snark, Guy, Kop, Firebringer and Boon survived the night. That's no vig. Of course we have a SK.

How did you know I was a NK? That slip though.

VOTE: Egg

The comma means I was addressing you. pisskop and sircake were the NKs.

Obviously.
This was a shitty reason for a vote, Frag.

[Aristophanes]

kuro is p strong town for me.

Despite you hating his reads?

Also, Happy Birthday yo!!!

yes

Cool. I can keep you both in my townpile.
This pleases me!

[Aristophanes]

@Aristo

Any answers to the questions in my ISO of you?

Can I do it in the morning?
I'm le tired atm

[Aristophanes]

@Aristo

Any answers to the questions in my ISO of you?

Can I do it in the morning?
I'm le tired atm

If you'll actually do it.

Your ISO is chalk full of you saying you're going to catch up, or give stuff ect & then not following through.

I'll do it.

[Aristophanes]

@Aristo

Any update on that content you said you'd give? You should be well rested.

Yep, incoming.
*Insert excuse about work here*
I'm sure you're tired of hearing it, so I'll just show you I care by following through finally.

[Aristophanes]

*Insert excuse about work here*.

That excuse sucks.

Hahaha IKR!

Obvious scum over here

[Aristophanes]

Alright, the "Things I promised" tabs are open.
I'm here with my whisky and am ready to do this!

Thanks for the patience all!

Ninja'd already ;.;

Drixx, we're all liars.

I am not!! XD

[Aristophanes]

I disagree in theory

What exactly do you disagree with?

This is regarding 1055 in which Slandarr makes a case on my slot based on Kop's play.

First off, his argument begins arguing not that I'm scum, but that I'm not a VT, as VTs shouldn't be worried about what they say.
This is PR/Scum hunting, and I dislike how strongly it feels like the former.
I don't even think the post he quoted looks relevant to the argument he's making, but I may be missing something contextual about it. Regardless, PR Hunting is bad.

The second quote from Kop he makes is Kop staying open to positions form others, rather than being tunnel visioned upon his current target. Slandarr makes a sarcastic remark in response, and says it's empty posting. I disagree and think it looks like a townpost, and would even if I didn't know the alignment of the poster.

Theory talk isn't always bad, and Slandarr seems to be saying it is. I really don't think he has any solid case on this slot.

So, Slandarr, that is why I disagree with the case you put forth on the Kop portion of this slot.

Ninja'd
Something Smart, I'm a scumlean? </3

[Aristophanes]

Why don't you want DGB in our little bloc Aristo?

I am undecided on whether they should be in or not.
Honestly, I don't have a read on them yet.
Lemme do a quick ISO and let you know. I'm pretty sure I can read her, seeing as I had her pegged pretty quickly in Paint Mafia.

Alrighty, let's do dat Iso!

Aaaaand done!
Not much to comment on, but comparatively speaking to the last scumgame I saw of her's (Paint Mafia), this is a TownDGB Iso. I'm totes cool with this now, FB!

Ninja'd by a few, including FB. FB, we can all be friends now!

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: Aristo

1089 Did you reread D2 & can we have some insight?

1114 Aristo what do you think of Slandaar now?

1116 Aristo's reply to Fire made me possibly realize something about Fire's slot, & I don't want to lynch that slot now.

1120 This vote on Drixx was pretty bad, & kind of sheepish.

1210 What do you think of the Creature slot from Creature playing & now with Fire playing?

1220 Can we have a explanation on what you disagreed with?

1227 Snarky hasn't done much except lay down naked votes. Does that concern you?

1229 What did you determine from DGB's ISO? Also what's your read on them?

1235 Came off that Aristo was ready to sheep whichever wagon gained more traction. They left the door open to do so.

1266 Time table on your reads?

1298 I gotta agree with the logic here. Don't think you'd bring it up if you didn't want people talking about it.

I'll do each separately for you.
1089: I still have lots to read, but I don't think I've been irrelevant. I am trying to stay caught up as well as I can, and as I see things, I am commenting on them.

1114: I kinda just did this, but I think his case is bullcrap, and I know he's a good player. So I don't really like where he's going with it. Scum? Maybe. He's in my nullish bin atm.

1116: I don't think this was meant for me to respond to..

1120: It was 100% Sheepish. I basically said that in the vote. Is sheepish scum though?

1210: I haven't read Creature, but I'll do that in my next post for you. Fire shouldn't be lynched any time soon. If he's scum, he'll sort himself out. But I don't get those vibes from him. I mean, we gots a bownbloc, so like, I probably think he's town and shit, right?

1220: I also just did this. Hurray!

1227: Snarky can be a little useless at times. We were masons before, and I wanted to vote him at times. Naked votes should be alarming, but he's not always a wealth of content. I'll Iso there as well in the post following my Creature Iso.
I hate assigning myself homework! lol

1229: See my previous post on DGB. I think they be townz! =D

1235: I was undecided at the time. Fraggeer, you seem a lot more towny of late. Drixx I am still wary of.

1266: Do you really want a readslist? I'm keeping them fluid this game, as making a solid list in Larges is really tough to maintain and I'd rather go by general feelz of mine, until we get later in the game at least (not that I'm likely to live that long..) However, the questions I've answered recently, and those I am going to do soon, should solidify quite a few people in my mental reads.

1298: Thanks for backing me up here!

So Many More Ninjas!

[Aristophanes]

Anyone who takes mafia seriously is missing the point.

@Aristophanes - That's kind of funny. You're the one who bit hook line and sinker and classically scum slipped. If KaaG weren't busy building what looks like a classic scum narrative, I'd still be voting you.

Call it a scumslip if you like. You wasted it on Non-scum. So, yeah. Sorry dude!

[Aristophanes]

Ninja'd by a few, including FB. FB, we can all be friends now

We are always friends Aristo!

=D

[Aristophanes]

Now it's time to go hard. I go hella hard dawgs. Fuck what you say, this game is over now. My scumhunting abilities are on par with my malicious intent, influence spreading across the land like auspicious discontent. Nobody knows the power I bring to the table, guess they ain't ever heard of the fable, the fable of a legend, the one who stands tall, now I confess, my abilities can fall, but I ain't never dying, not when I prove I ain't lying.

Was this a rap??
U Drunk Rappin' for your Bday?

[Aristophanes]

@Frag, other than the seeming insistence on referencing Post 9, which is a nothing post, there isn't much that points me towards scum in Creature's Iso. I don't see why he'd be so strongly scumread.

[Aristophanes]

freestyle phaaaaaaaam.

nah, but i'm going hard now.

Cool!

Let's catch us some scum then!

[Aristophanes]

Wow, Snarky is scum :S

Who wants to wagon with me there??

[Aristophanes]

Well, let's go for it!
VOTE: Snarky

[Aristophanes]

Lol I just noticed KAAG said 1055 was quite a good case.
KAAG, tell me what was good about it. Because in reality, it sucked ass.

[Aristophanes]

Slandarr, I suppose I misunderstood the whole of that post then?

I haven't read Kop so I don't have an answer.

[Aristophanes]

KAAG, that's overtly antitown play from Creature, but why is it scummy?

[Aristophanes]

Noted. He is usually more of a responder though, regardless of Alignment.

Thoughts on Snarky?
I hadn't looked at Guy, so I don't have a case for or against I'll do that read tonight.

[Aristophanes]

Can someone who thinks Aristo is town explain why please without using meta?

He is............aristo?
You make this impossible without meta. Aristo, get drunk and then post in here to show how god damn townie you are!
Just remmeber to drink responsibly.

Hahaha! I'm sure it will happen at some point!

[Aristophanes]

Why are people on Snarky?

Why are people not on Snarky?

[Aristophanes]

What's the gift horse you are referring to?

The wagon on you, obviously...

Care to make a defense or do anything productive, Snarky?
It would be neat if you made a case or did analysis or...ya know, anything more than this comment really.

[Aristophanes]

Imma do that Guy Iso now

[Aristophanes]

What a short Iso.

Fawkes isn't really helpful, and I can see the wagon there, but I also have a gut feel he's town.
I saw something in his Iso that's making me lean that way.

Snarky is a far better wagon!

[Aristophanes]

What did you find?

I found a lot of naked votes and short, unhelpful posts. But I also have ~reasons~ based on this Iso to not vote for him.

[Aristophanes]

P.s. ~reasons~ should be singular in reality, but it doesn't flow nicely that way.

[Aristophanes]

Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

Uggh! People keep making me read this game and I hate you all for it!!!

I'll go Iso Yume. Maybe whatever goddamn slot (s)he replaced too...

DGB, did you make a scumcase here?
All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

[Aristophanes]

All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

Inactivity is not null. Especially when it's a chronic problem in a player slot.

I mean, he's a recent replacement. I don't see how it can be chronic in any way yet.

[Aristophanes]

Hmm...I did the Iso on Jam. It looks like they made a lot of easy votes, with little reasoning. Their start to the game was okay, but they petered out really quickly.
I'll agree with you that this is a possible scum slot based on this Iso, but I don't think it should be our main concern today.
I'd sheep this if a wagon were a thing though, without any issues.

[Aristophanes]

Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

I don't really agree.

I think this is best.

VOTE: Firebringer

What a crappy vote.

[Aristophanes]

Took me a whole minute to read Guy's ISO & its pretty bad. Wouldn't mind seeing a wagon at all on them after Snarky.

[Phone Post]

Wanna vote Snarky with us then?

[Aristophanes]

Took me a whole minute to read Guy's ISO & its pretty bad. Wouldn't mind seeing a wagon at all on them after Snarky.

[Phone Post]

Wanna vote Snarky with us then?

I was already on Snarky.

Oh yeah.

@Aero, VC is wrong again

I'll join Guy/Snarky if you guys help me lynch Yume later.

Deal.

[Aristophanes]

Drixx is probably town. More reads incoming.

I can wait all night.

[Aristophanes]

VCs should be fixed now, bichas. Also, prodding guyfowxs

*Cough* Fragger's vote is still on Iroan instead of Snarky *cough*

[Aristophanes]

LISTEN YOU

(It's fixed <3)

U da best <3

[Aristophanes]

@Aristo

Did you see my 1502?

Right, forgot about it.
Literally in bed tho. That's a morning thing now.

[Aristophanes]

KTS, he said "on a wagon WITH me" not "on a wagon ON me."

You either misread his statement or are pushing this for a fallacious reason.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes always sounds forced, even when town-aligned. I cannot read him and doubt you can.

I thought that Kop was suspicious, though.

VOTE: Aristophanes

The best vote currently, because it has several votes and I am not reading him as town-aligned.

Thanks...I think?

I will admit my activity isn't always great, but the difference is what I do with my active time.

Iroan, you'll see that

Kuro

Kurio

Kuroi is right if you flip me, or I'd you meta dive me.
And I know acknowledging my meta nullifies it, but whateva! Whatchu gonn' do 'bout it!

[Aristophanes]

You argued otherwise in the game where you were scum, Aris!

Did I? Lol

I should really work on my consistency

[Aristophanes]

@Aristo

What's your read on Iraonvp? No more avoiding this.

Just did an Iso, and he's a scum lean. Many posts, but few are productive or say anything to progress the game.

[Aristophanes]

Would scumbuddies be so blatant tho?

[Aristophanes]

Since the Drixx wagon isn't happening and I'm thinking Snarky is town now,
VOTE: Aristo
Also I reread KTS and I like him a lot less now that the Reubus wagon that he pushed hard flipped town. I still don't like at all how he misread Fragger.

Bad vote. Bad vote
Can I just spam the thread with bad vote?

I'll help!
Bad vote.
Bad vote.

[Aristophanes]

Also, Origin, get better. That does sound really bad and I hope you're alright man!

SS, I'm town. Bad vote.
Wtf makes Snarky town!?

This wagon started as pressure. He hasn't responded in any positive way. We should now follow through and lynch him for being a useless slot. If we don't, we are showing that Pressure is all faked and can be nullified by running the clock until a deadline panicked quick wagon happens (hasn't happened yet, but a prediction).

Drixx, you brought up KAAG, implying meta. KAAG is merely taking that from what you said. It appears it's not what you meant. Now can we drop that? It's dumb.

[Aristophanes]

VC 2.10

Unofficial Ari VC

With 18 Alive, it's 10 to Lynch

Ari Notes:

<3
I can haz more Kittehs?

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  Slandaar
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  (0)
  Yume
  —
  (0)
  iraonavp
  —
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (2)
  Fraggernaut
  — Ozgin, SnarkySnowman
  
  (7)
  SnarkySnowman
  — Killthestory, Aristophanes, Fraggernaut, KuroiXHF, Firebringer, DrippingGoofball, Drixx
  
  (0)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  <3

- (expired on 2016-04-27 23:00:32) -

[Aristophanes]

^ We have a day left, a replacement required, a V/la (hopefully not dying), and a bunch of inactive proddodgers.

Snarky and I are the only really viable wagons now.

[Aristophanes]

Snarky is always lurky and useless. Like in this game. And we're not PLing somebody for being useless this early.
Plus, given that he has so little content to begin with, I doubt he would so blatantly WK Reubus:

I don't agree with this lynch at all.

No because this lynch is stupid

I'm pretty sure we just lynched town

Okay, then why am I Scummy?
What makes me scum?

Or did I miss/forget a case...
I'll look back.

[Aristophanes]

Like, I'm actually trying, which makes me a better lynch than this lurksack??

[Aristophanes]

Oh look, no case.
You put me as null-scum twice with MO reasoning, and now voted me with no reasoning.

WTF S_S??

Bad vote.

[Aristophanes]

Shit, I missed the spoiler with ctrl+f. Sorry!
I am not more likely to flip scum though, because I'm not scum! Lol

I'd argue I'm not being confrontational, but there are the above posts which prove me wrong..

I've become less confident in scumreads on those 3. Drixx maybe. But not enough to quick wagon at this point.

[Aristophanes]

Also, the votes are really split. To get either lynch, considering v/la and replacement required, people will have to switch from one wagon to the other.

[Aristophanes]

Should lead to interesting analysis later at least, especially if Snarky is scum

[Aristophanes]

Why am I a better lynch choice then, Egg?

[Aristophanes]

Like, there is a crazy amount of resisted cell to Snarky lynch for being such an empty slot!

[Aristophanes]

Why am I a better lynch choice then, Egg?

Drixx and I already discussed this with you.

Right. I'm dumb.

[Aristophanes]

Iunno what else to do but sit here and wait for one of us to die tbh.

[Aristophanes]

Like, there's barely a case on either of us. I just don't see an alternative, so I'm pushing the better wagon with more gusto than I believe it deserves.

[Aristophanes]

Thanks! I used to be the easiest thing to read ever, so this is nice actually!

I have my reasons for not elaborating. If I didn't have a reason, on review, I'd have said so. I have a reason, but I am keeping it unspoken.

If the slot does not improve with the replacement, I will consider a push there. Not until D4 though probably.

[Aristophanes]

Iraonavp should know what I'm talking about, though I get the feeling he does not.

[Aristophanes]

@Ari things like how you said you townread Guy, Kuroi asked you at least twice to elaborate, but you never did. Things like that continue making me suspicious of you. My opinion on your meta is that there's nothing that I can say with certainty, that you do as town or do as scum. But what I've seen in this specific game, I've seen enough for us to have put that at L1 by midday this phase.

^this sounds like it should have the words "vote Aris" in it. Aris and Snark would both be L-2 in that case if I'm counting correctly.

Nah. Midday L-1 means he's trying to sort me, as the rest of the post implies.

[Aristophanes]

I'll agree with you that this is a possible scum slot based on this Iso, but I don't think it should be our main concern today.
I'd sheep this if a wagon were a thing though, without any issues.

Why is Snarky a bigger concern?

I have a theory why you haven't answered this Aristo.

Perhaps you could at least attempt to though?

Is the theory that I forgot? Because I did.

Now it's because we need a lynch on one if the 2 larger wagons. At the time, because he can be sorted as we go, and Snarky already was avoiding any contribution despite the pressure on him. We can only do so much in a day,and I liked where I was.

[Aristophanes]

DGB, did you make a scumcase here?
All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

What is the case on Snarky other than being inactive which is null (your words)?

Lynch Aristo.

Be Happy.

His unhelpfulness/unwillingness to contribute when he is here. His empty readslist was just that, and he hasn't really done much else. Not sorting the game is his biggest red flag.

[Aristophanes]

Right. But I can only do pressure on one at a time and I wanted/had it on Snarky at the time. Why would we want to split that Pressure?

[Aristophanes]

Or Rubeus. The dead town guy.

Point being?

[Aristophanes]

Well, that would be a fun twist!
Me and Yume or Snarky? The statement was ambiguous.

I had something good going on Snarky. I didn't dismantle it. So sue me!

[Aristophanes]

But keep on pushing this narrative of you like lol

[Aristophanes]

Is it just me or are all the conversations in this game failing to progress it?

[Aristophanes]

Ah, the part of the game where I somehow talk myself into getting a bigger wagon, and possibly lynched! Classic.

[Aristophanes]

(Also, call posts like that annoying and scummy if you like, but I've become acutely aware of my own meta and tropes lately, and have often made comments about it as if I were viewing it from the outside. This is probably why my meta is blurring, as Performer has noted.)

[Aristophanes]

No. We're making some progress. For one, most people are either on you or SnarkySnowman.

Yeah, and staying where they are. And not having productive arguments/conversations.
The game feels stunted even with the conversations going on.

[Aristophanes]

Speaking of productive posts...

aaaa a a a a a a a a a AA a

[Aristophanes]

Can we get vote counts on the first page? I'd like to know current vote standings. I still think Aristophanes is the most scummy on the board right now.

Fairly certain I'm at L-3 and Snarky at L-2.

[Aristophanes]

Why am I a better lynch choice then, Egg?

You aren't even a good choice. Just a better choice.

Thanks, I think?

[Aristophanes]

I'm here for a bit if ya wanna chat, iraon.

[Aristophanes]

I think Snarky may be town.

How productive

[Aristophanes]

Iraonavp should know what I'm talking about, though I get the feeling he does not.

Is this what I think it is?

Should this post give me a strong reason to unvote?

Strong reason to unsote me? No.

I'm probably exaggerating a bit here. I thought you might get what I was saying, but I guess not.
It has nothing to do with myself, if that helps clarify anything.

[Aristophanes]

Fraggernaut and KickAssAndGiggle are almost surely scum-aligned in my opinion. That's all I'm really sure of.

I almost wish I could quick wagon with you. But I hate quick wagons. And 10 votes is a lot.

[Aristophanes]

I don't think it was what I thought then.

I really wish we were lynching Fraggernaut right now, it's frustrating.

Prolly not. Sorry if I misled you.

[Aristophanes]

I mean, I'd vote KAAG over Fragger, but it's still not gonna happen today.

[Aristophanes]

I must sleep.
Back maybe midday rkmirriw I'd were lixky N

[Aristophanes]

Glad you're feeling better Origin!

Mod should be pestered.

I'll claim if I have to, not before.

[Aristophanes]

Barring any changes, we have under 5 hours before deadline. I don't want to unduly rush things, but unless we get an extension noted, we should assume the stated deadline still applies.

[Aristophanes]

Updated VC. Should be accurate.

*** Disclaimer:
I not the mod ***

VC 2.Ari

Unofficial Ari VC

With 18 Alive, it's 10 to Lynch

Ari Notes:

<3
I can haz more Kittehs?

• (0)
  KuroiXHF
  —
  (0)
  Ozgin
  —
  
  (7)
  Aristophanes
  — Slandaar, Ilikebugs, Egg, iraonavp, Something_Smart, KickAssAndGiggle, SnarkySnowman
  
  (1)
  Killthestory
  — GuyFawkes
  (0)
  Performer
  —
  
  (1)
  Drixx
  — Yume
  (0)
  Ilikebugs
  —
  (1)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  GuyFawkes
  —
  (0)
  Something_Smart
  —
  (0)
  Egg
  —
  (0)
  Slandaar
  —
  (0)
  Yume
  —
  (0)
  iraonavp
  —
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (1)
  Fraggernaut
  — Ozgin
  
  (8)
  SnarkySnowman
  — Killthestory, Aristophanes, Fraggernaut, KuroiXHF, Firebringer, DrippingGoofball, Drixx, Performer
  
  (0)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  <3

- (expired on 2016-04-27 23:00:32) -

[Aristophanes]

As Ke$ha would say, "Tik Tok on the Clock but the Party don't Stop!"

[Aristophanes]

So how is SnarkySnowman more scummy that Aristo?

Well, I'm town, so that's one thing...

[Aristophanes]

How is trying to secure a lynch scummy!?!?

[Aristophanes]

I'm a backup cop. Don't lynch me please.

Well this sucks if true...

[Aristophanes]

I'm a backup cop. Don't lynch me please.

Well this sucks if true...

To elaborate, it essentially makes him a VT. He has no power unless a cop is killed, and at that point he's next for dead.
Or it's a fakeclaim assuming a Cop in the large setup/due to a Godfather in their scum group. I feel that is wine and I done feel like drinking it atm.

But I still think a lynch is superior to the alternative.

[Aristophanes]

You ninja'd me Frag. Sorry if I ruined your question...

[Aristophanes]

It's possible. A non-popular idea I suggest is having Aristophanes claim as well. We can then choose the best from those two.

Not worth, and fo sho not popular. If requested by a few more I will though.

[Aristophanes]

Indeed.

We need 1 to hammer you, 4 to hammer me. We don't have that time available.

I am not outing any more PRs today!

[Aristophanes]

Updated VC. Should be accurate.

*** Disclaimer:
I am not the mod ***

VC 2.Ari

Unofficial Ari VC

With 18 Alive, it's 10 to Lynch

Ari Notes:

<3
I can haz more Kittehs?

• (0)
  KuroiXHF
  —
  (0)
  Ozgin
  —
  
  (5)
  Aristophanes
  — Slandaar, Ilikebugs, Egg, KickAssAndGiggle, SnarkySnowman
  
  (1)
  Killthestory
  — GuyFawkes
  (0)
  Performer
  —
  
  (1)
  Drixx
  — Yume
  (0)
  Ilikebugs
  —
  (1)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  GuyFawkes
  —
  (0)
  Something_Smart
  —
  (0)
  Egg
  —
  (0)
  Slandaar
  —
  (0)
  Yume
  —
  (0)
  iraonavp
  —
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (1)
  Fraggernaut
  — Ozgin
  
  (10)
  SnarkySnowman
  — Killthestory, Aristophanes, Fraggernaut, KuroiXHF, Firebringer, DrippingGoofball, Drixx, Performer, iraonavp, Something_Smart -

  LYNCHED
  
  
  (0)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  <3

- (expired on 2016-04-27 23:00:32) -

Yume is due for a prod
Aeronaut & Axl_Rose are due for mod prods
GuyFawkes is awaiting replacement

Love you Aero, but Imma prod you and I have to bring this to the Listmod's attention.
I'm really sorry bro! Please don't hate me!

Deadline was achieved.
A lynch was achieved.

I expect this is Twilight and will treat it as such.

[Aristophanes]

If he's town you lynch the scummy people pushing him.
If he's scum you lynch the ones pushing the counterwagon. (Though I could see it being a bus, I suppose.)

This is a reasonable thought process which I can't argue.

[Aristophanes]

Snarky, any last words?
If you are town it'd be really appreciated.

Frag, I suppose it's fine now to go on with this.
Backup means he is powerless unless a Cop is killed. Then he becomes the new cop.
It's a less common role modifier, can lead to lots of wine, and is essentially useless if outed.
It isn't usually a safeclaim though. Thus my possible theorizing on a Godfather or something like that.

[Aristophanes]

I don't even get Snarky's fakeclaim.
Why the hell even!?

[Aristophanes]

Boooooring!

Lets lynch scum instead.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Aris

You Ninja'd me.
Wtf KTS!
I thought we were cool

[Aristophanes]

no

[Aristophanes]

I agree that potential power is important too, but once outed, the role is useless.

I'm not wrong and I know it.

[Aristophanes]

Ooooh Pagetop! =D

[Aristophanes]

Anyone else finding Oz hard to read?

He is scum.

VOTE: Aristo

"Oz is scum, so let's vote Ari!"

Great logic Slandarr.

[Aristophanes]

Aristo's scumhunting summed up

'Hey guys!
There is this guy called Snarky. He doesn't post much. Must be scum!'

All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

Just lynch him.

I'm fairly certain I've done far more than this. Nice misrep.

[Aristophanes]

U put him null? ... hm...

inactive

inactive

inactive

I'm pretty confident this isn't alignment indicative, but I didn't like how Killthestory had to clarify this to Performer. I'm asking myself in my head if Performer is twisting his words for a bias, or if it's just a simple accident.

Why are we even worried about this slot when it's not here?

What was the point if asking this Performer?

[Aristophanes]

Uggh.

We should just kill one of these two.

Repeat replacements are usually scum.

[Aristophanes]

Why all the Fraggy votes?

[Aristophanes]

Arishophanes ... you realize that you suggesting we kill an empty slot looks kind of bad combined with yesterday, yeah?

Oh yeah. Of course I do!

It was more a vocalization of my frustration at these slots than anything else.

I would not be overly surprised, though, if there were scum in a multi-replacement slot.
They should be allowed to be filled and rated on the performance of the replacee. Blah, blah, blah.

It's just annoying.

[Aristophanes]

Ah, but Guy is not a Repeat Replacement yet.

Slandarr, have you seriously not noticed this trend? I realize it's not good scumhunting, as it is possible as either alignment. However, it is notable.

I'll like a couple games momentarily.
I'll also quote myself not tunneling or whatever you accused me of before and then didn't push me to follow up on.

Performer, do you think your plan pushes out too many claims? It's possible we screw ourselves this way, so I'm a bit wary of it.

[Aristophanes]

Hmm...I've seen scum slots on the verge of double replacement, but it looks like I magnified that in my head. Apologies to you, Slandarr, for my incorrect headcannon of the site's meta.

[Aristophanes]

Aristo's scumhunting summed up

'Hey guys!
There is this guy called Snarky. He doesn't post much. Must be scum!'

All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

Just lynch him.

I'm fairly certain I've done far more than this. Nice misrep.

Provide quotes.

I was going to, but on second thought, no.
Thus is a huge waste of time, distracting to the game, and doesn't help anyone.
I have done other scumhunting. Read my Iso if you don't believe me.
Oh you have? Then I dislike your misrepresentation of it, and your tunnel on me is getting old.

I ISO'd you instead. Your posts have been a pure tunnel on me lately. Before that, you latched onto the Idiot Ball, and prior to it, we're seemingly tunneling Originz (I always misspell it because I forget the proper name here. Ozgin or something?)

If anyone is tunneling/not scumhunting widely, it's you.

VOTE: Slandarr

[Aristophanes]

Smart, are you scum? You should know me better than this.

I said something and fessed up that I had remembered wrong. I had games in mind, "Open (Whatever number) Yuk it up, buttercup" was one, but scum merely proddodge like Champs until 1 replacement happened. My bad.

1841 is laziness, not scum defending.

I didn't push the lurkers, I voiced frustration.
I would not have pushed for their lynch as that's dumb at this point.

Slandarr push is part OMGUS, part Fuck You, and part Do Something Productive Already! He's been on me since I got here and it's old. He is pushing me to do unproductive things. He's looking busier than he is.

It's actually a decent push if you ask me.

[Aristophanes]

U am being a but aggressive, I realize that.
Just the mood of the room here had got me that way it seems.

[Aristophanes]

Meh.

As I say, it was frustration, not a call for a legit push.

Activity is null, lack of scumhunting is not.

I went back in my incorrect assertion about the replacement trend.

Anything else you'd like to try throwing at me?
Because this is boring now and I've already addressed it all.

[Aristophanes]

Yume's not lurking. Yume's completely absent.

ery different.

I find DGB pursuing this interesting though.

[Aristophanes]

@Mod

VC please

You are lead wagon with 5 votes, 9 to lynch.

[Aristophanes]

Finally.

VOTE: Fraggernaut

This is pretty funny. Irao trying to coast a vote.

What Akers this funny?
I don't get it.

[Aristophanes]

...but for the record, I have read up the last few pages, and just holy fucking lol is Fragger badscum. Regardless of what comes of any of this, that's pretty much all I got to say so far lmao.

Uggh, this plus Peed wanting a claim - push is good ehough for me.

VOTE: Fraggy

I am really disengaged and may change this, but at least it mat be productive for now.

[Aristophanes]

Kuroi, Awesome Avi!

[Aristophanes]

Thank you. I figured I'd join Davsto, recruit a couple people to be Drew Carey and Wayne Brady and we could play, "Whose scum read is it anyway?"

As long as someone is Special Guest: Richard Simmons! I'm in

[Aristophanes]

Because I am town?

Welcome back!
Any other words to type?
Wisdom to impart upon us?
Something, oh, I don't know...productive to contribute?

That'd be nice ya know.

[Aristophanes]

Make whatever promises I made to read up on people "over the weekend" things, as work is being a bitch.
Sorry all!

[Aristophanes]

Can we continue lynching Yume?

Tempting, if only to avoid another replacement.

I could settle for it. I am behind though..

[Aristophanes]

^ Correct.

Just read the claim. Too many over justifications, but I'll sheep the Guilty.
Ascetic are annoying anyway.

VOTE: Iraon

Uggh, this was at Drixx.
Got Ninja'd

[Aristophanes]

I don't know, but why would I kill pisskop since I know I'm town-aligned?

Well, if we go by the theory that you are town aligned, you wouldn't because your role has no visiting/killing aspect.
So it is only if you are lying, and thus scum, that you could have killed him.
Therefore this post is pointless.

[Aristophanes]

^ Correct.

Just read the claim. Too many over justifications, but I'll sheep the Guilty.
Ascetic are annoying anyway.

VOTE: Iraon

Uggh, this was at Drixx.
Got Ninja'd

Do you even think that I'm scum-aligned?

You sound like you don't believe it even here.

Not by play really.
But I tend to sheep claimed guilties, and I see no reason not to in this instance.

[Aristophanes]

I wouldn't call it a policy, as it is situationally based.
However, I'd rather risk losing an ascetic enabler than a watcher.
If he is scum, he's dead meat tomorrow. If he's town, he is far better to us alive than dead.
It's merely weighing the potential risks. Your lynch is the better play here.

[Aristophanes]

I am holding my claim, I hard claim & I will never rescind.

There is no way Fraggernaut would say this if he was telling the truth.

This was an odd post, I agree.

I don't know, but why would I kill pisskop since I know I'm town-aligned?

Well, if we go by the theory that you are town aligned, you wouldn't because your role has no visiting/killing aspect.
So it is only if you are lying, and thus scum, that you could have killed him.
Therefore this post is pointless.

Indeed. I was drawing a comparison to this post:

Why would I trade one for one since I know I'm town? I know you visited pisskop the night they died, & I used that information to discern someone else's alignment as well.

I see the parallel, I just don't see the point.

[Aristophanes]

What is it with the idiotic Irannavp votes????

He's really towning it up

I bet all of Yume's buddies are on his wagon already.

What do you think of Iroan vs Fragger?
Which is scum?
Which is worth risking in today's lynch?

Are you a lyncher with Yume as a target?
You are, aren't you..
(Or are they non-normal?)

[Aristophanes]

hey all

Reading up now

Greetings!
I almost forgot this slot existed!!!

[Aristophanes]

hey all

Reading up now

See you when you finish catching up next week.

Still better than their predecessor

[Aristophanes]

lol im going to lynch you for tunneling this fucking hard on inactives. this is literally a PL wagon

Nope, it's literally a vanity wagon.

Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

[Aristophanes]

dont try to comment on every page. just read and give your thoughts or youll never finish

Unless you do it Ranger-Style!
Make a list, check it twice, adapt it every page or two so we can follow your progression few to no extra words needed!

[Aristophanes]

Iroan Enables an Ascetic.
He isn't one himself.

He should still die.
Can someone hammer?

[Aristophanes]

Meh I was just about to tell Performer not to hammer.
Not sure where I stand after a scumflip but I think Firebringer and Ari are still scum.

Is this you admitting you know Iroan is scum?
Hmmm?

[Aristophanes]

@Ari: I am still expecting him to flip town, but I was intending to come up with two readlists, one assuming he flips town and another assuming he flips scum. I probably won't have time to do that however.
Also, it seems like you believe ira's claim. Do you believe the claim but still think he is scum?

I see.

I think his claim is probably legit. However, an enabler, especially of Ascetics, is no great loss, and with a track to the kill, likely scum.

I have seen many enablers on scumteam before.

[Aristophanes]

What a wonderful day! Those flips!
Thanks to whomever shot those scummy bastards! XD

Also, I'm not scum lol

[Aristophanes]

Mod: Ilikebugs last post was in APRIL!

Wowzers :S

[Aristophanes]

Irao wagon had to have had at least 3 scum on it. It must have been heavily scum driven honestly.

VOTE: Aristophanes More comfortable with this after the flips

I'd ask what makes me likely to be scum, but I'm obviously not dumb and I get it.
However, I will be looking at interactions and wagons at some point this day phase, and hope that whatever info I gather is helpful, even if I am lynched.

[Aristophanes]

k cool do that shit and help

I shall indeed!
I will be useful before my death, I swear to you!

[Aristophanes]

So looks like we aren't doing so hot.
Anyone want to grab some beers and watch this town go up in flames with me?

Finally something I can agree with!

[Aristophanes]

Aris focus on your associations shit, not filler

okie dokes.
Starting now. With any luck, I'll have this done at some point tomorrow!

[Aristophanes]

I was going to go through and see of you crumbled something so I could provide feedback, but that's an awful lot of work.
Also, I agree the latter of the setups is most likely. I have said as much in a "saved" post, which will emerge with my chain of analysis posts.

These are, however, on hold for the weekend, as I am V/la unless I set aside a night after work and pour hours into this (possible, but unlikely).

[Aristophanes]

I should have bolded that.

V/la until Monday

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, I hadn't thought about it, but that does suck..
I will do my best to be here for current events type stuff, doubt I'll get my analysis done though.

DGB had been okay, but I'm done defending them. Their insistence on a Yume lynch yesterday was ridiculous. As I said, they seemed almost to be a lyncher, though those aren't "normal" and probably aren't likely in a game that seems to have 2 killing factions already.

Also, who was the single death N2? I forget, but it probably means both scum attacked them. Perhaps rereading their posts is a good idea.
And condemning some who pushed immediate shade onto Guy for "Not being around to submit a kill."
Possible scum going for an easy mislynch in that group!

[Aristophanes]

I think it's a possibility we must consider, as I don't think our potential Doc is doing well this game, should we have one.

^ @Perf

[Aristophanes]

Perf us like, really probably town. JS.

[Aristophanes]

You acting like scum isn't enough? Do I have to catch you in a lie or something?

Is this at Me or...?

[Aristophanes]

No. Performer
. Btw, I hate these double and triple posts

Ditto.
So annoying!

[Aristophanes]

I don't understand where town reads on Aristo or FB are coming from. Aristo in particular feels like he isn't really doing anything, and is always there in a middle position on the lynches.

FB is a serial fluff poster. I find almost nothing in his posts I can get a firm read from.

Kuroi wasn't on my radar until today, but his read list (with KTS low) and his vote for Performer have put him there now.

I wasn't doing much, this is true, but I am currently doing things. They are just things which have yet to be posted.

Also, even when not doing much, did I not make my views known? Did I not at least state why I had certain reads? I believe I've done more than you give me credit for.

[Aristophanes]

How am I a top scumread?
Like, that's actually dumb.

[Aristophanes]

Valid.
I may not be playing perfectly, but I'm far from being scum.

[Aristophanes]

I feel like there isn't much to respond to.

I kind of like 2208. I can understand having Ari as a scumlean, but he definitely doesn't deserve top scum. Ari has a very distinctive playstyle and I've seen his town game multiple times but never his scumgame. @Ari how would you describe your scumplay?

Also @KAAG what is it about Ari that you dislike so much? Just the VCA?

I have a very distinctive scumgame too. A few people here have seen it.
I am really bad for being Lurkerscum, even though I hate that. I have been trying to change it, but I'm still working in it.

[Aristophanes]

Perf us like, really probably town. JS.

What do you mean by "us" like?

I mean "is."
I am bad for mobile typos.

[Aristophanes]

Need to ISO it not really sure at this point. Ari gets lost in the shuffle of some of the other more flamboyant players.

Thanks?