New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

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Hi guys replacing in

Who are we blowtorching?

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Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

Are you aware of how RVS works?

This is scum

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I'm not seeing where the wagon is coming from or has footing outside of RVS.

None of Jam's posts thus far have been telling to me. Only real thing of substance was their #48.

This may be overly cautious scum

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I wouldn't call what GR did as "death tunneling". It's not even a real push. It's still just RVS.

This too

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oh shit i forgot this was a thing.

wait let me go look at my role, i havent looked yet lmfao

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Suspicious

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You should tell us what role you are though, so we can make the list and deduce who is sucm from it

Town

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Frag's post didn't look like a joke....

I don't mean exactly joke post, I said reaction test or whatever the hell it was because I didn't know what he was doing with it. My point is that story looked very defensive to a post with hardly any merit with it due to it being Day 1.

Either way they both look weird to me.

expert fence sitting

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Im a vanilla townie

This is town.

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Killtthestory is town

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Can we keep the shit posting to a minimum & attempt to solve this game please?

Sorry, I needed to get my silliness out when I was tempted.

Also before I forget this doesn't seem to be serving much of any purpose at the moment.

UNVOTE:

This sequence of posts is scummy.

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SirCakez is town.

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I'll see.

Lazy scum?

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Egg looks town.

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Scum-aligned players are no more likely to post "shit posts & naked votes" than town-aligned players. Surely you cannot disagree with this.

I can disagree.

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Something Smart is town.

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In case I haven't said it, pisskop is town.

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flailing scum

I'm not flailing, though. I am perfectly content, sitting in my chair. I think I will go get something to eat.

Yeah that's scummy

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I am unequivocally NOT a survivor, or any other sort of third party.

I take this as admission of being scum.

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I am unequivocally NOT a survivor, or any other sort of third party.

Are you scum?

LOL I'm not the only one who picked that up

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Still feeling pretty good about GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS for town. Although GR could do with pulling his head out of his ass.

Iraonavp is probably town too. And Slandaar.

Still leaning scum on Ness/Reubus slot and Jam. Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

pisskop and Fraggernaut are both null despite posting plenty: I have no clue how to read either of them. SirCakez looks exactly as he did last time I played with him (Open 623), when I thought he was scum but he was actually town. Jury's out there. Performer sounds straightforward but I disagree with some of his posts (i.e. post 292, 298).

Other slots null due to lack of content.

UNVOTE: Reubus
VOTE: Creature

Feels useful.

VERY wishy-washy.

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3/5 of his scumreads are on his wagon, just lol.

I dunno... to me that's more townie-think.

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Ness was nailed on scum as far as I was concerned, and if you're not going to catch up a mere 21 pages (of mainly short posts) properly, then:

VOTE: Reubus

I agree with this.

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I am unequivocally NOT a survivor, or any other sort of third party.

I take this as admission of being scum.

You take it wrong.

I am thinking of voting either you or your buddies.

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VOTE: Reubus

I guess I'll help Drixx bus his buddy.

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I'm reading rubeus as apathy and not scummy, I think.

And how can you tell apathy and lurkscum apart?

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I have a theory: Fragger & Drixx are both scum.

Could be. Definitely Drixx.

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DGB has a history of being unable to read me.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

Show proof

Do I even have any completed games with you?

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Also using the word "proverbial" is a scumtell.

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DGB was also scum that game <.<

I was scum, so Drixx cannot make any conclusion as to my ability to read him or not.

He's just BS'ing scum.

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I don't think Reubus has read the thread. Being scum and having a wagon on you is that demotivating?

LOL
you show promise, kid.

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Irao, what is your read on DGB?

I am not sure.

601 I may find slightly suspicious depending upon its intentions. But I was reading Golden Robster as slightly town-aligned.

So I will ask you, DrippingGoofball, why do you vote Reubus over Drixx here? Do you really believe that Drixx and Reubus are both scum-aligned and that Drixx is bussing Reubus? Thank you for your time.

This is something that will become clearer as their tree is being shaken

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The thing about Reubus that I find weird, is that he's not even attempting to fight a potential lynch, as I've stated before. I can't tell if this is just a town who claimed VT & just wants to die, or scum who knows they're caught & are already giving up. I'm more apt to think that Reubus is town, cause I feel like scum would at least put in some kind of effort to fight their potential lynch.

He's caught scum, why are we second-guessing ourselves?

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he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

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Or are you a scum tell!?!?!?

You're in this game?

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Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.

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I always keep up with the game's progress while I'm catching up; otherwise it takes way longer to catch up.

And since Reubus has implied he's a VT, that post was actually really useful. His response to it will be useful in discerning his alignment. So far I feel like he paid lip service by agreeing to my point, but then just continued to be a lurk sack instead of using the freedom of being a VT (implicitly, anyway) to play aggressively and push people and see if he can get reactions and help move the game forward. Being a VT is completely liberating. There's absolutely nothing to lose. If you get lynched, the town loses no role utility and gains information from how your lynch happens, and if you play aggressively and push, you can draw a night kill (again sparing role utility) just by being active and either becoming a threat to scum or (ironically) by being off enough on your reads that scum think killing you will mislead the rest of town.

There's zero reason for a VT to be demotivated to play. It's the most liberating position to be in, besides Tree Stump. Tree Stump is the best. You cannot be silenced so you have free reign to solve the game and scum can't do a thing about it.

I agree with what you're saying.

I would probably be more motivated if I was a VT, too.

Are you denying having said the bolded?

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No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

We totally can hammer the stalling scum.

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Come on, guys.

HAMMER TIME

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good someone's finally going to hammer this scummy piece of shit

No kidding, he just vanished, how long are we supposed to hold off?

I hate this new hammer-shy site meta.

At L-1... anyone should feel free to hammer.

If if takes too long scum start to think they can lurk their ways out of lynches.

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pisskop seemed townie to me, maybe that was the scum's kill

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VOTE: Drixx

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Post by post I get more and more convinced Drixx is scum.

I agree, let's lynch him

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Firebringer is town.

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wtf is an idiot ball?

You're probably scum

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I've played with scum Drixx (that single Newbie defeat he alluded to...I inflicted it), and he was far more conciliatory as scum. His ISO here is terrible, but it's nothing like the Drixx in that game. I've ummed and ahhd about it, but for now I'm waiting on his promised reads before reconsidering him.

Regarding Guy, 18 posts total, 10 of which are unarguably fluff. Flying under the radar is an understatement: he's a stealth bomber! I agree that he is hard to read: if he won't correct that by himself then we can encourage him.

Meta is crap, though. It should be banned.

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iraonavp is town BTW

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I think Fragger is town.

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Also meta is BS.

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GO eat bugs

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If I would have to choose someone right now, drippinggoofball hasn't been contributing too much and is just fillering for the most part.

Agree.

You should want to lynch yourself.

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I haven't bothered reading his latest posts because he's scum LOL

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boring.

can we quick Lynch someone yet?

VOTE: Killthestory

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VOTE: YUme

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VOTE: YUme

This is your second post where there's nothing but a blanket vote. You didn't even quote anyone this time. Want to give us reasons?

It's a lurker slot.

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Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

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All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

Inactivity is not null. Especially when it's a chronic problem in a player slot.

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Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

I don't really agree.

I think this is best.

VOTE: Firebringer

FB is lynchbait. Not taking the bait.

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Yeah, I am here.

Still scum.

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All I remember is a case based on inactivity, which is null.

Inactivity is not null. Especially when it's a chronic problem in a player slot.

This is a terrible post, and I already explained why.

I agree with this.

I hope after Yume flips scum that you all realize it is a FANTASTIC post.

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I'll join Guy/Snarky if you guys help me lynch Yume later.

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VOTE: Snarky

I'd have voted Guy had be been the bigger wagon.

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@Frag, You literally just said that if I'm reading you as scum, why would I be okay with a wagon on you. That's silly.

whaaaaaa?

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I think Snarky may be town.

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Fucking Yume and Ozgin. Hammer this shit.

That

Except that Yume is scum

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VOTE: GuyFawkes

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As the day goes on, I like Drip less and less. Come to think of it,I was in a game with her a while back, where she was town with me and titus and fire, vs 2 scum in a 14 player game.

She sounded more invested - addressed questions, posted more than just a ton of brief posts.

I am sorry but I feel this game is a bit disjointed. I take my share of responsibility for this state.

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Uggh.

We should just kill one of these two.

Repeat replacements are usually scum.

I totally agree. It looks like Yume saw his scum role PM and vanished.

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VOTE: Yume

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Come to think of it…
GuyFawkes super lurked at deadline of d2, n2 there was only 1 nk. On d3 he’s being replaced. Coincidence? Maybe not?
I’ve considered if we have a Town 1-shot Vig or something of that sort.
But I’ve also considered maybe there’s an SK in this setup.

I want to lynch Fawkes or Yume.

Either works for me.

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The issue I have with the argument of repeat replacements being scum, is that any alignment can do that, not just scum. Considering the state we’re in, I’d say this situation is great for scum and I’m still not seeing enough advancement in this phase, so for Guy & Yume slots to be replaced…I’m still thinking that’s town laziness rather than scum replace out. I didn’t expect the Yume slot to replace out again (Jam, then Yume, who knows who’s coming in for Yume).

Nope

Lurking is scummy

This level of lurking sure is

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Let's lynch Yume and save the mod some work.

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I'd rather lynch you, to be honest.

You're town!

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The case here is about as good as the case was on Snarky. As in, terribad. Yume and Guy are being replaced, and certainly in Guy's case its implausible anyone can read his slot as anything.

I disagree.

Thing is, Snarky always lurks. That makes him always a good lynch especially if the crowd struggles with reaching a majority.

Yume playerslot is a chronic lurkslot that must be eliminated.

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Ozgin's playerslot is conftown.

Good luck on your exams!

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If Irao flips SK then I read you scum independent of that flip. If Irao flips mafia then you're most likely their partner.

I'd be happy to vote you for SK-hunting.

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Because I am town?

BLOWTORCH THIS PLAYER SLOT

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I don't think Fragger is scum.

I will not vote him.

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Guys guys, gys.
Lets lynch Farg.

no

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Yume is obvscum imo.

VOTE: Yume

Which of Yume's 6 posts lead you to this conclusion? Or is it simply an activity tell like DGB's?

Low activity + lack of content

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Replacing GuyFawkes and Yume now. Ozgin is V/LA.

FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Drixx is scum... he's being a good scum and bus'ing Yume.

We have to help him.

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Can we continue lynching Yume?

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What is it with the idiotic Irannavp votes????

He's really towning it up

I bet all of Yume's buddies are on his wagon already.

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I believe iraonavp more than Fragger.

Let's lynch Yume so we can decide tomorrow

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Perf at this point, I would focus on the past few pages, we have only a few days left and too many lurkers in this game.

Too bad you replaced into a scum slot.

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Your iraonav vote was scummy.

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So that means you think frag is fake claiming that would mean you think frag is scum, why are you not voting for him then instead of a non entity like yume?

Why can't they both be town?

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Still, either replacing out or flaking out is generally a null tell.

nope scumtell

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Performer is scum.

So is Yume.

Feel free to lynch me, I'm town, but if you numbnuts don't speedlynch Yumescum tomorrow there will be words in the Dead PT.

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In fact, I propose we wagon Fire, Kuroi, or Drip. Slandaar what's your read on Aris slot? Has it changed from d1?

Just as long as we don't lynch your buddy Yume.

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Have you guys lynched scum yet? NO.

Time for you guys to listen to me now.

I've been telling you for three days that Yume is scum. That's because Yume is scum. Can we get on with lynching that thing?

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But after doing another ISO of Yume, I’m putting the slot at null.

OMG I hope you're not town

No way anyone can read that iso and say "null"

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Why do you think Perf is scum?

SK-hunting!

He's so worried about his own scummy hide every night he's not thinking "town vig" he's already edging some future wagon on SK.

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DrippingGoofball, do you think that you are convincing any of us when you're demanding her head on a pike? If anything, you're doing the opposite.

OK good

Let that player slot go on to 3 man-LYLO

Don't come crying

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DrippingGoofball, do you think that you are convincing any of us when you're demanding her head on a pike? If anything, you're doing the opposite.

Though her extreme death tunnel pings me as scummy, she brings up a good point about that Yume slot . I think I gave that slot too much benefit of the doubt. This still doesn't change my read on Drip though.

Do you want to paint me as SK or Yume's buddy

make up your mind

LOL

You're not

good

scum.

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See, it's really hard to get a lynch completed without the scum's help.

Look at how bloody hard it is to lynch Yume when I am giving the scum every reason to hide behind my death tunnel and sheep me.

Instead, they're calling me SK

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

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Why do you think Perf is scum?

SK-hunting!

He's so worried about his own scummy hide every night he's not thinking "town vig" he's already edging some future wagon on SK.

I don't even know where to begin with this.

And that's because you're scum.

Caught, as we say, for the wrong reasons.

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DGB can you show where the flipped scum interacted with her? (Yume), and considering how inactive she was, why would the stronger members of her team not be bussing her like mad?

I entertained the possibility but they probably would rather keep the slot and hope for replacement to save it from oblivion.

If Yume was MORE active, they would bus. But they are not bus'ing an inactive.

There is really very little towncred to be gained from it.

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Why do you think Perf is scum?

SK-hunting!

He's so worried about his own scummy hide every night he's not thinking "town vig" he's already edging some future wagon on SK.

I don't even know where to begin with this.

And that's because you're scum.

Caught, as we say, for the wrong reasons.

Whatever. If there's nothing more of substance from you , I'll call it a night for this particular game and leave my read as is on you.

said the caught scum

Good luck finding that elusive SK

LOL

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Performer has to realize that his "serial killer" hasn't killed last night and no one is owning up to blocking/protecting whatever so...

1-shot vig or odd-night vig is more likely

But he's scum so he wants to lynch a vig as a serial killer and expand his opportunity to find "scum"

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Reubus Swagrid, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 1
Pisskop, Town JOAT, Killed Night 1
SirCakez, Vanilla Townie, Killed Night 1
SnarkySnowman, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 2
Egg, Vanilla Townie, Killed Night 2

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Mafia Ascetic

Oh I see

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I have spoiler tags in mod posts

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Tomorrow when I have some time I look for the Fragger/Ozgin interactions.

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DGB, do your thoughts on Perf change now that you realized there were 3 kills last night?

Yes

But Yume is still vastly scum

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I think Fragger was bus'ing iraonavp.

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Ozgin too, early bus'ing

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Ozgin also early bus'ed jam/Yume

we arent townreading people for rvsing like they did that one time at band camp.


o/ oz!
o/ frag

you guys should see how awesome and town i am here, right?

Yeah, I see it now. My b, homie.

VOTE: jam

@jam

We love you, never forget that. This will make you stronker. Not stronger, stronk-er.

LOL if you want proof that real life excuses are scummy look no further than Ozgin

No one believes me when I bring up that scumtell.

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Ozgin also promised to look at Drixx but never did

SCUM

Yume
iraonavp
Drixx

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I think Fragger was bus'ing iraonavp.

Jeez. It would take a lot of guts to fake something like this.

Also Kuroi sounds like he's grasping at straws here. What's scummy about KTS?

LOL no

Scum bus'es like mad

Have you ever been scum?

Day 1 is like a 12-bus pileup on the freeway

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Damn

I really rely on that OP

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@ mod can we poke bugs and yume with a sharp cattle prod, or is it time to replace them?

Yume is posting elsewhere, another reason why he needs a'lynching.

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Again... Yume is posting elsewhere.

I say we save the mod some trouble and get some rope.

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VOTE: Kuroi
I feel better about this than about Ari.
Some of his posts (like 2322) show basically a scum mindset (DGB has been quite towny so he's just fishing around for a lynch people will support that's not him) and I'm also getting feelings of butthurt that remind me of caught for the wrong reason (he seems way more upset and defensive about a little pressure than he should be).

Maybe but I hope you realize that Yume is scum too, flaking from this game while signing up for new ones.

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you just said you want to lynch someone without regard to alignment but then you'd hope to catch scum?

And yet he's not voting for Yume! Heresy!

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I might have to fakeclaim a cop guilty on Yume.

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rest of the "why not Yume?" mob just look like they want an easy target.

What mob??????

LOL that's like, no one but me

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Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?

OMG

Who said it's an "obvious tell," scum, if it was that obvious I wouldn't have such a hard time convincing people to lynch an abject lurker.

You're my next tunnel. You should definitely NK me. Don't let the WIFOM stop you.

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If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad LOL

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If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad LOL

No. This brings about a good question.
Are you willing to risk the noose that Yume is scum?

I don't care, feel free to lynch me tomorrow for any reason you like.

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Aw come on, the game is finally getting somewhere and you're going to come up with nonsense like I am a lyncher? Is that even normal?

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I might compromise on Kuroi after his most recent posts but my hunch is that if Kuroi is scum, it's with Yume.

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Lyachting me this game would seem to put me out of my missry.

Lynching Yume would put me out of mine, won't you help?

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Back in the good old days we enjoyed a vigorous lynch and were loathe to stall it with nonsense.

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Don't look at my birth date then....

Yes back then we fed people rope and we had no shame about it. There was no lengthy Ceremony of the Hammer. You were at L-2, you claimed. If you stalled, you were mercilessly hammered and flipped scum. Anyone that would have brought up fancy bullshit like "intent to hammer" would have been vig'ed.

How I miss those days where bloodlust was celebrated!

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And let's start with Yume!

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VOTE: vote: Reverie

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I warren it's a bad idea to lynch me

Vague PR hints are scummy

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VOTE: Firebringer

Let's see where this goes.

And I am your only scum read after you've iso'd yourself???

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I was going to say I'm generally a shitposter but I iso'd myself and I was very impressed by the quality of my posting in this game, definitely above average, A for effort.

If that gets me lynched I'm going to have to adjust to more shitposting.

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The scum is in a rush to foil my Yume/Reverie death tunnel.

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Damn. Reverie is town.

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I might vote for whoever was whiteknighting that player slot. Please identify yourselves.

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@DGB: I do agree with you there but what in particular made you change your mind?

He declared my death tunnel to be heartfelt

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I have intents.

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I would like you to lynch me, you being town in this scenario just baffles me.

OMG this is so townie

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Sadly for the town, Performer is in it.

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limited SK

That would be cruel.

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VOTE: Performer
If this is your town game, you deserve this.

He's town, Firebringer.

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I can see he is trying though, and from a town mindset. Hey let's vote Something_Smart and see which way he flinches.

VOTE: SSmart

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how the hell is fire playing the same as his town game? Like, can anyone safely say Fire is town here?

yes

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With Kuroi flipping town

???

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SSmart is town.

VOTE: Hebichan

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oops my bad he replaced bugs not yume.

Does that mean you'll join me?

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It's not so much a wagon as it is one person voting on me, as it happens.

Your buddy is worried though

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RM is town

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I really think Fire is town.

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What's wrong with that post?

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TheDominator37 replaces Reverie

Really? This slot is being replaced again?

It must be scum

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Refrain????

I am offended

It's a beautiful symphony

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VOTE: TheDominator37

The Firebringer wagon is HERESY

The replacement is already lurking

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Hebichan is scum.

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I'm not voting Fire

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VOTE: TheDominator

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I want to create the illusion of extra momentum!

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At least you care enough to lynch Denominator!

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if Dom flips town heads will roll.

Yes YOURS

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No joke - if Dom flips town, speedlynch Nero Cain.