New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Boem_u_dusi]

Yeah uh

Next person to ignore my post 8 by not voting podo or me is getting voted, fair warning

Interesting, why are you pushing the Podo wagon and not joining the Wake one?

VOTE: Titus

funny guy

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VOTE: Trancend... Because lApsa only posted 11 smilies .... Then Trancend posted 12!!!!!

Irrelevant, uninformative, unfunny, unamusing. Are you scum who is trying to be funny and is failing?

Wow and we're already out of RVS.

Liking transcend here so far actually. UNVOTE:
I also like implosion.

VOTE: Mirhawk
I don't like the way he gave some kinda wiifm shit to push against a lynch. On his secon post on P 3

Seems artificial to me. First "wow we're already out of RVS" sounds fake to me and then saying who he likes and dislikes without providing any reasons behind it whatsoever. Also seems little tense to me.

ummm town wouldnt type a post to stand out, that outs attention on them and away from hunting actual scum. ... so it sounds like you are insinuating that he is scum. i think it could be that you are scum pushing against an early mislynch.

Town does whatever they think will improve their winning chances.
Scum does whatever they think will improve their winning chances.

Weak arguments here.

TLeaning almost50. putting himself too far out there in a 1v1 to be scum

SLeaning Wake. i dont like the way he shows himself in his Titus interractions.


@ wake

Implosion seems to be legitimately getting reads on people Right now.
Why? are you SReading him

I think he's trying to pocket Implosion here. Again, I don't know where all these town and scum reads come from. He has a thing for Implosion, that's for sure considering he mentioned him two times already.

Actually Zachary feels like stupid town to me. He is drawing too much suspicion to himself to be scum I think. Why exactly am I actually being scum read at this point though? I haven't seen the reasoning for it yet.

I don't see where this "drawing attention -> not scum" logic comes from.

I am scumreading you because you fail to provide reasoning behind your actions and you seem artificial and tense to me. Also, you are providing too many townreads and are doing close to zero scumhunting.

I need to reread Titus, he left me a bad impression at the start. Will probably switch my vote to this guy.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Titus is okayish to me, although his interaction with Wake is shady. Dunnstral is kinda weird with "figuring out" scum teams, but okay for now. Zach will get serious or get lynched.

VOTE: Sickofit1138

[Boem_u_dusi]

Zachstral shannon maf team

If I was a mafia team with him I'd have replaced out by now, I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be

I don't like this post. Mark as "scummy".

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Lapsa

———✶

I'd like to know what your gut's telling you.

getting there

for starters - your post feels like flirting with me too much.
you know... colors.
do me a favor and don't ride my back

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shannon's town

Other than "vote is still on wake it's where I want it" and a post with naked vote on Wake, I don't see a case from you on Wake?

My vote is now on shannon who I'm quite sure is scum

I find this somewhat interesting.

I don't see why is shannon town in Transcend's eyes. Nullreading shannon is okay, but townreading? Based on what?
She posted 6 times, 5 out of those 6 posts are crap and the other one is RVS.

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I dunno, 175 could very well be scum looking for an easy target.

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Mirhawk

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Honestly,

Performer

didn't say he wanted it to stand out. Are you assuming he did?

.

In order to not stand out he could have simply not voted.

He deliberately voted no lynch, what possible reason could he have done that for unless he wanted people to notice it.

In all honesty the more I talk about it the less I like it.

Hey performer, why did you vote for a no lynch? It's obviously not going to stick, so why not just place no vote?

To fish for reactions ! First day of d1 , we had plenty of time to talk over things, get wagons generated, etc. Unless there are special cases, then no lynch is typically a bad way to go.

Oh and someone asked if I was an IC before - I'm not going to answer that question.

I like this answer.

Fun fact guys, Dunnstral has hard tunneled me D1-2 before and I flipped Town. He just gets a little excited sometimes.

Zach i'm like pretty close to townreading you. I just need you to give me some more to work with.

How does that work? You're the sole benefactor of my wagon.

I find that strange as well, imp saying he is close to townreading you . Not only that, but him saying his tone is typically scumread by others, is also frankly weird.

Are you going to.. do anything about this?

I am going to wait and see. imp is hardly the type to lurk.

Now's probably a time to get this shannon counterwagon going pal, I know you put the slot into null but I have a scouter-type ability for finding scum (which people....don't really put faith in... but it works)

@Implosion, why the change of heart?
@Zach, what makes you so sure shannon is scum? Several people marked her as town, this is a potentially dangerous move for you.

[Boem_u_dusi]

We need to pressure shannon or Sickofit1138, although I'm not entirely satisfied with Zach. But he would probably be a mislynch.

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Unvote

VOTE: boem

[Boem_u_dusi]

I don't understand how you can see nothing bad in what sickofit has been posting

Weird, sure. Scum, not really.

This makes me think Sickofit could be town and Zach actually knows it.

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I don't think he would defend his scummate like this, but then again who knows.

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@Zach, what makes you so sure shannon is scum? Several people marked her as town, this is a potentially dangerous move for you.

Why did you choose to ask this question and why did you phrase it this way?

Mafia knows each other -> if shannon is not mafia they can mark her as town -> if shannon is mislynched they blame Zach

What is so hard to understand there?

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@Zach, what makes you so sure shannon is scum? Several people marked her as town, this is a potentially dangerous move for you.

Why did you choose to ask this question and why did you phrase it this way?

Mafia knows each other -> if shannon is not mafia they can mark her as town -> if shannon is mislynched they blame Zach

What is so hard to understand there?

I just don't understand why you felt the desire to warn Zach of this.

I find it noteworthy that you phrased it as "this is a potentially dangerous move for you," rather than something like "why are you putting yourself in danger like this."

I don't normally give other people advice or warnings like this in the course of my play. Do you want him not to be scumreading shannon? Why is it helpful to you for him to be aware of this "danger?" What if shannon

is

scum? If you yourself have a nullread on shannon this just seems like such a weird post to make, preemptively warning someone that they might get blamed if someone is mislynched when you are not townreading that person in particular and there's not a ton of pressure on them so that them being lynched quickly is unlikely.

Huh? We're discussing rhetoric principles here?

I was trying to squeeze out his thoughts on shannon for what they're worth and ... that's it.

Your last sentence is too convoluted to follow.

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What the FROG!! So, ignoring you = scum?? Bc you say so is town?? And your #336 is ridiculous and scummy on it's own. re-read what I said. I said "we may have better lynching options" but never specified whom these might be. For you to take to mean I already intended to vote YOU is basically a subconscious scum!claim. You could've provided "something" for me to read through and decide if it's convincing AT ALL.

Sorry, mate.. but you're obv!scum to me right now.

VOTE: Dunn

You need to take a chill pill. And to unvote Dunnstral.

VOTE: Dunn

I would be OK with this. He says he voted me because I ignored him early, but I didn't have a real conversation with anyone in the game until today.

Not the only thing he's said that's scummy, but it's a bulletpoint I wanted to point out.

Podo seems like a well-meaning newbie town here.

Dunnstral's reads lack explanations, but they correlate a lot with my reads at the moment so I'm riding with him

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Zach > shannon imo

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VOTE: boem

don't like the longpost about sickofit. looks sorta like candy coating a wagon with the most momentum.

i don't like the reads he gave in 183 shortly before voting

don't like the fos on shannon. but maybe that's because i have her marked as town.

Okay

Zach's prob town.

Let's get boem.

God that Shannon philosophy is stupid as fuck.

Let's rope boem, imo.

Dunn is a tough read for me.

I genuinely sr Boem.

still wanna rope boem

i'm curious why his slot has so much resistance

such tunnel
wow
much dedication

[Boem_u_dusi]

I wouldn't be so sure. And if that happens, you're going to look very silly after my flip.

[Boem_u_dusi]

what if i'm scum pushing your lynch

>:)

thanks for communicating to me like you know i'm town >:)

Implying that was my point.

[Boem_u_dusi]

1. I didn't imply that I think you are town.

2. Opportunistic vote on sickofit? I'm the one who presented a case on him.

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Transcend is like a broken record, he likes repeating same stuff all over again.

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Podo seems like a well-meaning newbie town here.

Boehm what's your definition of newbie town? Because based on his 3 completed, I wouldn't say he's a newbie.
What're your thoughts on your 2-man wagon?

I haven't played with him before so maybe I'm wrong but he sounds naive sometimes.

My 2-man wagon? I can't see where Transcend's thing for me comes from and I find it weird that Implosion is townreading all my suspects

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VOTE: Zach

For emphasis.

Lamisty post definition.

Come on, that was a cute post.

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Piechart has some contrast issues, but nice job.

Mirhawk didn't really say anything. He voted for Sickofit which is about the only interesting thing from him. Meh.
I'm just shamelessly sheeping Dunnstral for now.

VOTE: Mirhawk

[Boem_u_dusi]

Piechart has some contrast issues, but nice job.

Mirhawk didn't really say anything. He voted for Sickofit which is about the only interesting thing from him. Meh.
I'm just shamelessly sheeping Dunnstral for now.

VOTE: Mirhawk

and i'm no longer happy with this vote

This makes me happier about my vote.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Seriously you guys need to stop talking so friggin much. I'm never going to catch up at this rate.

Everyone stops right now. RIGHT NOW

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*tr on shannon intensifies*

For what? The only thing she's done is complain about Zach's posting style.

This. So much this.

Sorry Dunn.

UNVOTE:

[Boem_u_dusi]

Dunnstral's a member of the bad scumhunter group by the way, he's evidenced that enough.

Titus I will happily lynch myself to spite you

, but then again I'm town and enjoy playing to my win condition and you're scum who's backed into a corner(which isn't there and you backed yourself into) and if you're town then you created the corner but it's somehow magically the fault of everyone but you.

You can wait til tomorrow, I'll be dead by daystart.

I'm refering to bolded/underlined sentences.

1. What is that passive-aggressive bullshit?

2. What makes you so sure about that, I don't see mafia targeting you tonight if they're smart. Assuming you are town.

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So this game is Honey Bunches of Clusterfuck already.

What makes you say this? It seems pretty tame to me.

nothing i just now woke up and got the day 1 notification and it was 3 pages so my little brain felt overwhelmed for a second

it's ok i become intellectual at some point later

You promised, man.

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Titus likes his hydras.

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I understand prejudice against people who are on your wagon when you are town because it's

natural

, but Agar scumread is weird to me because I actually liked his 561.

Sick and Zach scumreads are understandable.

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I have a lot of catching up to do after my beauty sleep and I'm bit groggy atm however I managed to read the thread. I think.

Not sure what to make of that mason thing, I've never played this setup before so I'm confused. All that metagame talk and reading other players based on their metagame doesn't help me either because I've never played with you people before (or this setup) so I feel this game is somewhat beyond my reach at the moment. But I'll keep trying.

Dunnstral has been saying all over the place how town I am so he may be pocketing me, but I like his overall play so far. I tried to look at this game from Transcend's point of view and I couldn't figure out his motivation for tunneling me so if he's town this is going to be a frustrating game. There is a lot of heat on Titus at the moment and I don't know what to think of it. Yet. Titus/Wake interaction is shady for me, but it's hard to be more specific.

I would still vote Sickofit I think, unless he comes up with something interesting. When reading the thread, Implosion's 931 stuck out as weird to me because I don't see Zach as

transparent town

, whatever that means. I can't figure out where he pulled that out from.

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Dunnstral has been saying all over the place how town I am so he may be pocketing me

he's mason

He says he's mason.

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giving botd because idk why

VOTE: implosion

my gut's been telling me baaaad things about this guy

Interesting, Nosferatu also had a gut read on him in 178. PeregrineV too in 300.

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I was thinking about isoing Zach, but he posted 184 times. Fuuuck, no way

Maybe that's his defense lol

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yeah well i think nos is town.

idrc about PV right now he's been useless all game.

i'm going with right now that 2 mafia wouldn't group themselves together and be masons. plus dunn's softs were pretty telling of this fact.

You think nosferatu is town? Based on what, his gut feel about implosion?
Your reads are weird man, you are too quick to jump to conclusions.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Someone was calling for an investigative role on me

, and someone else voted and then moved (maybe this was Titus and Zach). I get that I'm not a great contributor this game, I think it's a combo of being sick, RL busy, other game busy, and unused to playing with so many people.

I would encourage an investigator not to waste their action

, and I'll try to do better to keep track of what's going on in the game and to contribute.

I'd be stoked to get cleared by an investigative PR.

This reads to me like you want the theoretical PR to not look in your direction.

It can be argued both both ways in my opinion. If you are town you don't want investigative PR to "waste" a check by investigating you. Scum can also ask investigative PR to check them to try to appear like they have nothing to hide. Conclusion: this discussion is pointless.

In my opinion, investigative PR should check people who tend to stay long in the game, that means not getting shot by mafia often.

Who do you think should be checked besides you? Question like this make sense because you probably won't insist that cop checks your partner if you are scum.

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I've never played this setup before so I'm confused.

How so? What do you already know about this setup that you know you've never played before? The only things you really should know are your role and the number of players, but this reads like you know more than that.

I meant I've never played closed setup, without knowing roles.

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Like, why would I lie about not knowing what an acronym means?

I find it very difficult to believe you don't know what NAI means. I've seen you before in other type of games . You have plenty of experience.

Literally though like, why do you think I would lie about this? What do I gain by lying about knowing what an acronym means?

OK can both of you drop that? It's ridiculous. Thanks in advance.

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sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

Is this an invitation? This doesn't sound towny.

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Hmm, Sickofit or Nosferatu. I like having good choices.

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I can't find it in the rules, but are we allowed to discuss replacements and posts like Nosferatu's last one?

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Boem you don't engage enough.

VOTE: Boem_u_dusi

What is all this about? I was just considering voting Nosferatu because I think people are more likely to be scum when asking to be replaced, speaking from my (limited) experience. I rarely see town replacements and inactives.

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sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

Is this an invitation? This doesn't sound towny.

that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.

OK this is a very shitty post. If you are scum, this is completely unethical. If you are town, you're just ridiculous.

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VOTE: Boem_u_dusi

wake, what's up with that?

I feel like he's coasting by posting infrequently, with few sentences, and not really risking drawing enemies/scrutiny to himself. I want him to stop playing so safe.

1195

Is this good enough?

VOTE: Nosferatu

And I made few enemies along the way, for example Transcend rarely misses an opportunity to tunnel me.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I need to sleep. Good night everybody, I'm too drained to process this Wake/Titus interaction. There is definitely something shady going on. Maybe even a w/w, I don't know.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I have nothing to add here. Both Nosferatu and Sickofit could be mafia who just gave up and left the game so I'm fine with lynching either of them.

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Idk what to even think now.
Too many pages I got like 30 while I was on holiday FOR A DAY

Town: Titus, Zach, Shannon, Dunn, po, Agar
Scum: implosion, transcend, Lapsa, Wake

VOTE: Wake

I will attempt to catch up soon, I'm working all week.
iK I'm helping town too much right now and normally I would replace out, but apparently that makes me cod scum

An yes I just know someone will SR me for this post.

Your town and scum lists seem believeable to me, but why is Lapsa a scumread to you? Few people expressed some doubts about him, but for me his thought process seems town.

I didn't like bolded sentence, seems like you are preemptively defending yourself. But I'll accept it as null because rest of the post seems okayish to me.

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@Sickofit1138, why are all your previous posts total shit?

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yet a few here which I feel may be Scum only complain about Sick.

I bolded this because I think it's a very good point and is worth discussing - Nosferatu doesn't attract so much heat as Sickofit and that's weird. On the other hand, Sickofit is really not looking good and maybe the scum know that and are already heavily distancing from him.
PeregrineV and (other guy?) also didn't post much but at least their posts don't reek.

If both Nosferatu and Sickofit are town this is going to be a very easy win for mafia, so I'm operating under assumption that isn't the case.

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Hmm, Sickofit or Nosferatu. I like having good choices.

Before the page 47 behaviors from Zach + Wake, I was thinking Nos was a good place to go too. I was even tr on Wake , as it seemed he was figuring things out logically and wanted feedback on his reads lists, which looked like he was trying involve folks.
Then I voted Trans, agreed with him about scummy Nos before the replace-out post, he asked me to vote Nos and he wasn't even voting Nos at that point, I turned down the request since starting a new wagon was pointless, then his 1159 placed me as scum, as scum, Zach suddenly came out with 1162 placing me as scum too .

Boem, tell me how many games total have you played , as well as how many large normals you've played?

When I was newer to FM, I used to think scum was more likely to replace out, but down the road I found town was more likely. It also depends on the situation. In this case, Nos stated replace out due to too many games. Zach and Wake's egregious pushes on that slot also made me lean town on that slot . I've seen this happen before.

VOTE: Wake

I've only played one newbie game here so far and 4 total on different sites, with different setups. I've never played a large normal.
Last game I played on another site had three replacements and two of them were scum. Scum had like 100 posts combined out of something like 2000. Maybe I'm little too eager to lynch inactives but so far in the games I played there has

always

been at least one scum among inactives or very low posters.

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Code: Select all

You've been sowing seeds of division all game but you haven't fooled everyone.

What on earth is even meant by this from Wake about Titus??

It sounds really cool however, I have to keep that line somewhere.

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Hmm, what's the probability of them claiming mason as towns?
I think cop should check one of them to make sure.

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" Masons " can also be mafia-aligned

No they can't because this is a normal game

Zach what the??? Scum Masons in a normal & balanced game???? This looks very fishy from you .

@Boem my invite to imp, extends to you as well.

Huh?

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Hmm, what's the probability of them claiming mason as towns?
I think cop should check one of them to make sure.

If the cop should check anyone, it's one of Dunnstral/Titus.

Yeah that's what I thought.

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@boem my invite to vote Wake or Transcend, who I have in my notes as scumreads.
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First we have originals, then cc, then possible multi-town teams, then scum-mason talk (which makes no sense as scum are already aligned).

This is insane. I 'm going to take a breather from this game for rest of the day.
This is just insane.

What about Nosferatu/Sickofit?

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And I also have no idea what's going on anymore.

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That was a lie. I never had an idea what's going on and I still don't.

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Everybody has been asking favors from me all over the place, wow. I am feeling so special now.

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I think I won't be playing closed setups until I get more experience, this is ridiculous

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By the way, if I put on my implosion thinking cap, there's no way Varsoon and I can be scum (there's no way we were scum in the first place, but I digress) because WHAT 2 SCUM COUNTER CLAIM MASONS??

I think Dunnstral mentioned this could be Werewolf/Mafia/Town setup. Hmhm.

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Which setups are even possible? Is there a list somewhere?

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Is a cop possible here?

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Fuck this shit, let's just get Nosferatu or Sickofit out of the game and discuss this bullshit tomorrow after we see nightkills.

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Fuck this shit, let's just get Nosferatu or Sickofit out of the game and discuss this bullshit tomorrow after we see nightkills.

Are you voting Nos? I'll switch if his wagon picks up speed.

I'm voting Nosferatu at the moment, but I can also switch to Sickofit.
This mason claiming and counterclaiming is bullshit and it's leading nowhere. We'll be smarter tomorrow. Maybe.

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Fuck this shit, let's just get Nosferatu or Sickofit out of the game and discuss this bullshit tomorrow after we see nightkills.

bad idea. will give you some freebie towncred for now, boem

Why? I am unable to figure out stuff now, maybe I'll be smarter tomorrow.
Gonna grab some beer, I need it.

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Mmmm Löwenbräu

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I never heard this cover and I'm a huge fan of Simon & Garfunkel. Thanks.

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[Varsoon]

Town

Transcend
AGar
Lapsa
Boem_u_dusi
Sickofit
Wake88


Null
[Everyone not included on either list]

Scumlean

implosion
shannon

Scum

Ditus/Tunnstral
Nosferatu
PereV



[Airick10]

Sickofit and Transcend and AGar and me are your townreads?

I made a case on Sickofit and pushed for his lynch. Transcend and me have been fighting/disliking each other for quite some time. And I've been townreading Dunnstral pretty much the whole game (although he's been sounding less convincing to me when those mason counterclaims started). You put Nosferatu and PeregrineV in your scum tier with Titus/Dunnstral and Nosferatu/PeregrineV have been inactive this game so far. Sickofit is in town tier and Nosferatu is in scum tier. Implosion/shannon grouping makes some sense to me however. Performer is null, hm.

Can you explain these reads?

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Transcend and AGar are blatant town, plus AGar is like the third voice of reason amidst this shitstorm. Sickofit is mislynch bait.

I said after I posted that that Performer should be scummier.

So you think Transcend is blatant town? Why? And why do you think our interaction was town/town?

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Transcend and AGar are blatant town, plus AGar is like the third voice of reason amidst this shitstorm. Sickofit is mislynch bait.

I said after I posted that that Performer should be scummier.

So you think Transcend is blatant town? Why? And why do you think our interaction was town/town?

We might as well call him Townscend. I'm familiar with his tone and believe if he wanted to play a decent scum game he'd at least try to put on the image that he gives half a fuck about how he appears in his posts. Your interaction was good, I think your doubt of him was genuine.

Also, that's a weird question. If I have both of you as town, what else would I think of the interaction as?

Fine.

I thought our interaction was weird. I thought his constant tunneling me was ... I can't find the right analogy right now. I have been feeling little bit better about him lately, but dunno.

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Who do you want to see roped, Boem?

Sickofit or Nosferatu. Wasn't I clear about that?

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Good morning.

Oh I see Dunnstral and Titus unclaimed mason roles, that's convenient.
Does anyone want to claim mason with me? We need to get more claims going.
Maybe I claim the Fool later, who knows?

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I liked Varsoon/Zach claiming masons and then retracting it but then turning out to be false retract in the end. Very thematic.

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i'm mason with boem

our bickering with each other was only theatrical

vote: zac

time's up buddy retract or die......

they are too easy man

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Transcend my mason buddy what are we going to do here? Seems to me Titus/Dunnstral and Podo/Wake seem to have different agendas. Somebody is bullshiting here hard. Maybe protecting Sickofit or Nosferatu, dunno.

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Suddenly, a wild Airick10 appears

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oh-ho-ho

that's actually helpful.

but i honestly townread dunn and scumread titus.

The thing is, why have they been townreading each other so much all this time if they are v/w?

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What do you think about Wake and his interaction with Titus throughout the game?

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Oh, Wake you are here. You expressed annoyance about me few times, you wanted to hear more, you were scumreading me etc.
What's bothering you? This is your opportunity to ask.

BTW why are you putting me in your scumreads along with Sickofit1138? I had the feeling you were defending that guy and I've been pretty vocal about wanting to rope him.

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Oh, Wake you are here. You expressed annoyance about me few times, you wanted to hear more, you were scumreading me etc.
What's bothering you? This is your opportunity to ask.

BTW why are you putting me in your scumreads along with Sickofit1138? I had the feeling you were defending that guy and I've been pretty vocal about wanting to rope him.

My gut tells me the way you posy is very safe, almost couched. You don't really extend yourself, or put yourself at risk, or willing to say controversial things that will make enemies, as I do. The feeling I get is that you've been playing on the fence, like your goal is to self-preserve.

That's just what the gut tells me at the moment. I wouldn't mind lynching you today because I do trust my gut, but I would rather vote a few other choices before you today. And your feeling is questionable because I'm also willing to vote Sick because I said why. You wanting to rope someone I don't particularly trust does not make you more Town in my eyes.

Later I'll reread your ISO at my leisure and get a better idea of what you are and what you're doing.

Okay, fair point although you basically repeated same thing as in one of your previous posts. I think enough

controversial things

have been said today so I don't feel the need to add more fuel to this chaos. I'm not self-preserving, in fact I wouldn't mind that bad being lynched today or nightkilled because this game is draining me and I don't find it much fun. But that's selfish point of view so I'll stick with the game. Make of that what you wish.

Can we have VC soon?

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Nah.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Nah.

I'll come for you later.

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I'm considering it. But Dunnstral has been townreading Titus and that's bothering me here.
Dunnstral mafia and Titus town would be funny twist.

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So we need 3 more.

Dunn, Zach, Boem, Varsoon, Mirhawk.

I would suggest we get Titus to theoretical L-2 and leave her there until the mod can get a vote count, just in case I missed one.

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Wake, you forgot to add me and Transcend claiming masons there.

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+1

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Implosion, why do you think Nosferatu and PeregrineV expressed their negative gut read on you (bad vibes) early on?

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I think I am not voting Titus, Dunnstral, Varsoon, Zach, Transcend today. First four because they left a lot of content behind so that combined with information from tonight's kills will help us a lot tomorrow to straighten them out, and I've been solidly townreading Transcend lately so that makes five. I'm probably not voting Wake and podoboq. Wake/podoboq are openly cooperating together which is probably very risky for scum to do. I'm also probably not voting Performer because his posts seemed strong to me.

For me, Sickofit remains a solid choice and our best shot at getting scum. His entrance was awkward, he said he's gonna catch up and he didn't do that + there's very real possibility that someone was trying to deflect the attention from him.
Another sane choice is Nosferatu/Vedith. His posts are atrocious. He said he gets bad vibes from implosion and in his last post he just said I'm the scum which was very weird from my point of view. Vedith's posts are also weak but this is a chaotic game so maybe he's having a hard time catching up.
Several people expressed bad gut reads on implosion so I could be persuaded to go ahead and test that hypothesis. TMI is also what worries me here.
PeregrineV also expressed negative gut read on implosion which is weird.

I wouldn't exclude the possibility that people discussing here are all town and that the scumteam is among inactives/lowposters. That happened in my last game.

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Another sane choice is Nosferatu/Vedith. His posts are atrocious. He said he gets bad vibes from implosion and in his last post he just said I'm the scum which was very weird from my point of view. Vedith's posts are also weak but this is a chaotic game so maybe he's having a hard time catching up.

Wait, come again?!

When do I even mention you or or Implosion?!

Nosferatu did.

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LOL at "needs to engage more". There's too much meaningless engagement going on.

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AGar

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Airick10

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Almost50

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Boem_u_dusi

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Dunnstral

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implosion

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Lapsa

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Mirhawk

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PeregrineV

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Performer

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podoboq

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shannon

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Sickofit1138

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Titus

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Transcend

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Varsoon

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Vedith

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Zachstralkita

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Willing to lynch.

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Not inclined to lynch.

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Needs to engage more.

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Unsure about this player.

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Talks too much.

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Willing to hammer.

What did AGar do that impressed you so much and why he didn't get the "needs to engage more" badge?

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Nosferatu did.

Yeah I realised that after lol.
You was close to getting a vote there

Your posts are complete shit. You are fitting replacement for Nosferatu.

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I haven't really brought any PeregrineV post to mind. I lean town on all all the aforementioned people.

I'm on and off town about Boem.

AGar needs to post more but I think he's towny. Vedith is bleh. Airick is unreadable. Sick is gut town, but only gut nothing else. Need to re-iso Mirhawk. Dunno why I was so sure about A50 being scum because I've evaded that.

I think I've covered my thoughts on everyone. And I'm accounting all mason claims as fake for right now.

{Zach, Podo, Dunn, Wake}
{Titus, Vars, shannon, Performer}
{Sickofitnumbers, Vedith, Boem, Airick, A50, Pere, AGar, Lapsa}
{Mirhawk}
{implosion}

town, townlean, null, scumlean, scum

I have too many null leans and I'll work on those isos at a later time.

It's mutual

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Wake, I see what you did there

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Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

[Boem_u_dusi]

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

Cheers buddy *Pats you on the head*
Now let the adults talk.

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How come nobody can explain implosion to me

It's either TMI or complete bullshit.

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We're not lynching performer today


Lynches:
Vedith
Sickofit
A50
Lapsa


Policy lynches:
Peregrine
Airick10

Why policy lynch those two?

They need pressure and they need to engage.

Should they be alive Day 2 and aren't active or logging in but doing nothing then yeah I feel they'd be viable options.

I think they had plenty time to engage.

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This Sickofit1138 situation is very telling. There's TMI here going on.

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And Wake drop that crap with telling everybody how they need to engage more. They aren't going to start engaging more because you told them to.

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And Wake drop that crap with telling everybody how they need to engage more. They aren't going to start engaging more because you told them to.

If I feel they need to engage more then I will say so, so your request is denied.

If they refuse to engage when they are able to then they will take responsibility for it as the game progresses.

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Your reaction makes no sense.

OK do whatever you want, but I have never seen someone suddenly starting to engage more just because somebody told them to. And who established you as an activity policeman?

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Dunnstral, next post will be your 400th. Congratulations.

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Your reaction makes no sense.

OK do whatever you want, but I have never seen someone suddenly starting to engage more just because somebody told them to. And who established you as an activity policeman?

I will say and do what I want, when I want.

And I have seen players engage more when called out on it.

Don't even try to say I'm an 'activity policeman' (whatever the fuck that is) for wanting certain players to participate in the game more.

Stop being anti-Town and finding excuses for players not to play the game.

And where did I do that

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Well, it's not like you have to ISO Zach. Their ISO's are very short and rather uninspiring.

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Really? I am dead silent?

Like fuck, intelligence is dead.

pull your shit together

VOTE: Titus

ouch

d u n k e d

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This look like an overreaction.

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See, I'm glad I isoed Almost50.

Vote: Almost50

What's the reasoning behind this except voting for you?

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That was ... awkward from PeregrineV.

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Okay PeregrineV, can you elaborate further on that gutread on implosion? Because I found it interesting that so many people have a negative gut read about him while my gut says nothing. Both you and Nosferatu/Vedith expressed that gut read very early in the game.

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For the record, my current list of strong townreads:

Lapsa, podoboq, Zach, Dunnstral
Titus, Wake, Performer, Boem

With the tier on top being a bit more confident than the bottom, but all 8 of those are pretty confidently town. I really doubt I'll be convinced, at least today, on anyone in that list; anyone else I can potentially be convinced on.

You basically listed all the high posters except Transcend and Lapsa.
But I also have the feeling mafia are among lowposters/inactives.

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Vedith seems as if he replaced into scum because he's too lazy not to make a shitpost.

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VOTE: Titus
If only because absolutely no one has any love for my Dunnstral wagon.
Fuck like
You morons, I CALLED OUT SOMEONE FAKE-CLAIMING MASONS, CAUGHT THEM, AND EXPOSED HOW ANTI-TOWN THEY WERE AND YOU'RE STILL TOWNREADING THEM!?!

We've already lost before we've begun.

I actually really don't like this post.

Seems agenda-y.

I don't see Dunn and Titus running away with this if they are both scum + there's a plenty of time to ISO and discuss them tomorrow.

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So, what am I at now?

History.

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Airick10 is giving me good vibes here.

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Vedith's posts are a lot worse than nosferatu's

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

I'm not perfect, but I do have meta with Vedith 's towngame . He is generally smug and brief, as I've been seeing in this game. When I first played with him, I scumread him quickly but he turned out to be town, so I do see where you guys are coming from. #usemetaitisavitaltool

So you think we're headed in wrong direction with his lynch? What's the alternative?

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Performer's lynch pool being all townies (with the exception of Mirhawk) adds 50 points to him being scum.

He included Sickofit there.

It crossed my mind and I think it's funny that Sickofit has been mentioned order a magnitude more often than his number of posts. I have a feeling we've been talking the whole game about this guy.

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Performer's lynch pool being all townies (with the exception of Mirhawk) adds 50 points to him being scum.

He included Sickofit there.

It crossed my mind and I think it's funny that Sickofit has been mentioned order a magnitude more often than his number of posts. I have a feeling we've been talking the whole game about this guy.

Sickofit is a ML.

Okay, you won't see me until Day 2.

So, you think Sickofit is a ML and Performer thinks Vedith is a ML...

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VOTE: Sickofit1138

Don't think I want to move off of this again

Dunnstral, why the switch?

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Vedith might be town after all

Yeah, I figured you made that conclusion. But why? Do you think Performer is trying to deflect there or what?

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And what's your current read on Titus? Are you still strongly townreading him?

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Yes, I very strongly oppose that lynch

I wasn't talking about lynch.

And please answer my question before Titus one.

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Vedith might be town after all

Yeah, I figured you made that conclusion. But why? Do you think Performer is trying to deflect there or what?

I never said anything about performer?

OK, whatever, forget Performer .
Do you think *someone* is trying to deflect from Sickofit and that made you change vote to him? Or you have another reasons?
Provide me with some of your thoughts, pretty please with sugar on top.

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Vedith might just be dumb town

Like don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind lynching him knowing he's town

But I'd prefer to get sickofit who scums it up then says nothing for all of 2000 posts

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Whatever.

VOTE: Sickofit1138

Good night.

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@Mod
Request to be replaced

don't really blame you on that one lol

That was his towniest post.

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I don't understand the wagon on AGar.

I don't understand the wagon on Vedith.

I've felt this kind of feeling when it came to crazy, poorly explained wagons the last time I played a large Multiball game.

I'm really feeling that we are in Multiball. If it were one Town vs one Mafia all this would be different. 100 pages of constant struggling to change votes and minds tells me we have two competing Mafia factions. Don't like it? Sue me. That's what I'm feeling right now.

Why? Nosferatu didn't have a single meaningful post and Vedith's almost every post was crap.

And AGar's reappearance was a little weird. However that wagon is more eyebrow-raising.

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Boem_u_dusi, could you better explain your 2058, where you say Vedith's posts are weak? I feel that requires clarity. Dunnstral saying that Vedith's posts are worse than Nosferatu's doesn't ring true from where I'm standing (2090).

Clarity? Nosferatu's posts were atrocious and Vedith is slightly better, but still bad. I don't know how to elaborate here, just look at his ISO. Performer pointed out that it's his town meta so I don't know. The only thing I like from him is that he mistrusts Titus, which makes me believe (maybe) that he's actually thinking about the game. But he could also be just trying to find a way to save his ass there. Dunnstral saying that Vedith's posts are worse than Nosferatu's is ridiculous.
But I really think Sickofit is the way to go here because I think he has deliberately been in antispew mode from the beginning of the game. He got frozen by accusations and didn't know how to respond to them, said he's gonna catch up and didn't. And now he asked to be replaced because he doesn't know how to handle this game. If this guy is town, then we are just unlucky. And I have a feeling someone's been constantly steering away from his lynch. Reason I don't want to rope Titus today is because Dunnstral is townreading and defending him heavily and I have been townreading Dunnstral since the beginning of the game. Which may change depending on future information, but we'll see.

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Wake88 (1): beeboy
beeboy (1): Boem_u_dusi
Performer (1): Zachstralkita

No.

Why?

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IRL I am the kind of person who thanks the officer for a speeding ticket because it reminds me that I need to pay more attention when I'm driving

First of all - Bollocks.

That sounds like the biggest lie in this game

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Anyway, this game is stale.
I don't think we're going to get anything today.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I don't know, I find myself lying more in RL than in mafia. Maybe because I rand town every time.

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Also has my predecessor mentioned I am a miller?

This is a good one

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ISOing Performer (88 posts):

Since I'm only explaining my reads here I need not go through anything beyond his opening post.

"Vote No Lynch" is enough for me to get a town read on him.

Contrary to popular belief, only TOWN would suggest a No Lynch so openly and that early. Scum know this move will put them at the very center of everyone's suspects list. Personally, I wouldn't dare suggest it if I was scum (and I wouldn't dare fake claim on D1 either). I know YMMD and all, but that's how I classify Performer until further notice. Nothing in his ISO makes me think otherwise either.

Mirhawk (88 posts):

By implication, his early duel with Sick over Performer's NL suggestion makes him a slight town lean. However, most of his posts are one liners and uninformative.

I did like him asking about LAMIST, bc I didn't know what that was, but assumed it was a misspelled derivation of "lame"

I also like his stance on the mason claims.

Conclusion: Upon reread I'm relegating him from Town to Town-Lean.

There's nothing scummy in his ISO, but there's nothing strongly indicative of him being town either.

N.B. Shannon is now conf!town to me. The role claim was uncalled for, but it was also out of the blue (i.e. there was not much pressure on her).

I wouldn't be lynching here bc -although uninformed- that's a vote that can help us.

Scum are informed and will know where to vote

9and it certainly isn't in town's favour),

while town -no matter how uninformed- are more likely to hit on scum sooner or later

, besides.. if scum want to shoot her she's doing exactly what a VT should be doing, i.e. eating a bullet for the town PRs.

Everyone else has posted over 100 posts, and I'm not about to ISO them anytime soon.

I'll wait and see how the day (and night) go before I start doing that.

Also, welcome beeboy.

Huh? What the fuck did I just read? This is among 5 worst posts in the game.

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Almost50, how come shannon is now confirmed town to you? What if I claimed something here out of the blue, would that make me confirmed town also? Tell me so I do that.

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I liked recent AGar posts. Shannon's vote on him is fishy.

Seems like nobody's going Sickofit/beeboy way so:

VOTE: Vedit

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The thread as a whole wants the day to end. The wagon standard is pretty much, can the wagon hit scum? Is it a lynch based in scummy behavior? Is wagon makeup ok?

Yes. Yes. Meh.

I think I'd still prefer Sickofit/beeboy, but Vedith wagon also makes sense. AGar wagon is a distraction.

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How could you possibly be scum reading me >_<
I am townie af..

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Vedith is at L-1 if I counted correctly.

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No, actually he's gone. Dunnstral clinched it. I think. Can we have VC?

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Well, I think noone gives a fuck anyway.
To be fair, you didn't call L-1 either and it's either L-1 or L now.

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Lynch all replacements is my motto.

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Vedith is trolling guys

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Did I really

To be fair nobody called l-2 or l-1 or anything

Sorry guys, I'm pissed off now.

Does this guy even know how to play?

Yeah let's throw due diligence and caution out the fucking window.

How much do you charge lessons?

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Maybe Wake miscounted and there isn't a lynch yet.
I think I hate closed setups.

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Yeah, good job everyone!

I knew Vedith was trolling. I'm feeling better about Sickofit slot now, especially after voting for mafia PR. Not still entirely sure about that slot, maybe he was just saving his ass but I'm willing to let him off the hook for now. Dunnstral is close to confirmed town to me and I'm feeling good about most people on Nosferatu/Vedith wagon.
We should analyze yesterday's voting around AGar today because mafia was surely trying to steer away from Vedith lynch. The most obvious one is Performer with his weak ass townread on Vedith.

Lapsa kill makes little sense to me, it seemed like he's not that hard to lead into a mislynch for mafia.

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I'm fine with both Wake and Titus in the game for now, at least for balance. I'll have to reread Titus though, not sure if Wake's reasoning is actually confirmation bias or not.

Rereading and extrapolating evidence from D1 will be a huge pain, but I believe it contains almost all information we need so we should start doing that.

That Lapsa kill was very weird, I expected Zach or Dunnstral getting killed. AGar wagon was likely a distraction from Vedith so he's close to being clear town for me.

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Ignore my comment about Performer, while I was ISO-ing him I missed that he actually voted for Vedith so he's also fine for me.

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Zachstral shannon maf team

If I was a mafia team with him I'd have replaced out by now, I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be

OK, top 3 reasons to vote Boem then

I am actually starting to town read Zach a bit. Town on both the mason claims obv.

Scummish on Boem, the overall vibe of his posts just feels off to me but I don't know him so it might be normal for him. I don't think i'ts correct that replacements are more likely to be scum and I don't accept that as a reason for voting.

I don't like Performer's 'no lynch' vote.


VOTE: Sick of it

Not much time to really engage today as I'm ripping out our kitchen (FUN). I appreciate the people who have commented that I'm town but suck at playing it!

Quickly going to VOTE: Agar for no reason other than his is the majority wagon and I want to help town lynch *someone* today.

Wake I'm townreading you at the moment, but I don't like your tone at the start of this game. We lynched a strong mafia PR, you should chill a little. Stay focused and do scumhunting of course, but you're acting too bossy.

Place to look for scum is AGar wagon.

P.S. That Titus tunneling is getting stale imo.

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Stupid multiquote, I was doing ISO on shannon

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Seems like Wake is also having some multiquote issues.

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I think I'm going to reread implosion, that gut read by Nosferatu was weird.

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Almost50 seems like a fine lynch choice, like everyone on AGar wagon.
I'm not sure that Mirhawk would leave his vote on shannon with Vedith if they are partners, that's seems dumb to me.
Titus wagon is very conditional on her flip.

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i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

Why and why?

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I'm just shamelessly sheeping Dunnstral for now.

Forever

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What is this annihilator beam? Some kind of Metroid reference?

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Airick10's reasoning seems fine to me.

VOTE: Almost50

I would like to hear more from podoboq.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I think I'm going to bed earlier this time, I'm unusually tired whole day.

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If anyone bussed, I think it's Sickofit/beeboy slot. But that's somewhat far-fetched and I'm barely keeping my eyes open at the moment so maybe I'm talking crap.
I think we should search in Almost50/podoboq/implosion.

Good night.

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UNVOTE:

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Well so much for hitting submit vs preview.

Anyway... I was going to say I think we are ignoring the voting groups that were formed in D1. I still find it very peculiar that 5 of 10 votes were counted for Vedith late at night in a span of two hours. And I also think it's reasonable to suggest one of them could be scum. I also think it's even more reasonable the first 5 votes that were not part of that late blitz wagon also had scum in there. The post above is my take on those five votes. To be fair, I don't know if any of them would unvote during that blitz wagon as it was happening... but given the short time frame of it. Did they even have a choice?

Out of the five, three of them (AGar, Performer, PV) haven't responded in D2 so far... granted, it is a holiday. But they have quiet most of the game and I wouldn't expect them to unvote during that blitz. I'm open to looking at other groups who voted who in D1, but I do believe there is scum in this list.

^^FWIW it wasn't late night everywhere, I voted in the middle of the day when I logged on while getting lunch at my local shops!

I voted at around 9 AM.

Airick10, were you bullshiting us there?

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What is with everybody suspecting AGar?

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Well, I was just happy to see an actual decision happening and decided, after seeing a few votes in a row on the same person, to join that same wagon. Probably should have checked how many votes were on in total, but it's bloody hard to do that over so. many. pages. of votes and unvotes. I would find more frequent vote counts to be helpful if the mod is up to it.

Me too although we can't blame the mod, this game had ridiculously active D1.

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I'll just continue sheeping Dunnstral, I don't give a fuck.

VOTE: Mirhawk

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That implosion vote was explosive.

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I'm waiting for Mirhawk to show up and explain his vote on shannon along with Vedith and to say more about his Vedith townread. Pointing out that Vedith softed a PR is also shady. There was also

some

shade on Mirhawk D1 if I remember correctly.

Those early townreads on Nosferatu/Vedith (including Titus in 177) are extremely suspicious and should not be ignored. Nosferatu/Vedith posts nothing but crap whole D1 and somebody townreads him? Hello? I would be seriously pissed if I were playing as scum with him and he posted something like 1184 so scumreading me is just , at least from my perspective.

PeregrineV's 300 looked weird to me upon reading his ISO. Noted.

From people on Vedith wagon, I think it's between Titus or beeboy. But I'm giving these guys a pass today.
There's no way beeboy survives f3 if he's scum, so I guess we leave him alone for now.

Dunnstral, Zach and Wake are close to confirmed towns for me, Almost50 too (because of claim). I'll continue to unapologetically sheep Dunnstral whom I identified as town very early in the game.

I don't understand AGar's point about me, I think I'm expressing my thoughts just fine, however I admit I got lazy D2. Anyway, I think he's town and wagon on him on D1 was a scum diversion.

I think Mirhawk is a good shot for catching scum. I'd say it's around 50% now.

Implosion, I don't know. It's possible that Nosferatu is not the brightest flower in the field and posted 170 and 178 with implosion as his partner.

Not much to say, really. From my point of view, I think we're doing fine and town wins as long as we play logically and noone does anything stupid.

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What's your read on implosion subtracting anything Nos said about implosion?

I missed that, where did that happen?

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VC would be helpful here.

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Let's see about implosion. I'm doing ISO with few comments along the way.

He was townreading shannon in 231.
He expressed doubts about Sickofit wagon in 259. Fishy. Sickofit has done nothing at that point of the game not to be wagoned.
He voted me without an explanation in 276 when we were past RVS. I'm not grudgy, fine.
He talks about

sorting Nos

in 295, expresses some doubts about him. I dislike this.
He expresses doubts about Mirhawk in 401.
He says

Nos is probably town

in 403.
Both Sickofit and Nosferatu are in his townreads in 407. This is off. His scumreads are {wake, agar, mirhawk, boem, peregrine, airick, varsoon}.
He says

I rather doubt scum would have randomly claimed macho

in 412.

In following posts, he votes Titus, unvotes him and then votes Mirhawk. Some discussion with Titus which is tldr.

He calls Zach

transparent town

in 931.
His says

I honestly have no idea how to read anything Wake has posted as alignment-indicative

in 944.

Following posts are fluffy. That's fine, null.

He says he has

a very strong townread on Lapsa and a moderately strong townread on Sick

in 1016.
He votes PeregrineV in 1018 and is convinced that AGar is scum.

Following posts are pointless bickering about abbreviations. That's fine.

I have to say that his tone starts to feel a bit frustrated, but that's maybe confirmation bias.

Following posts are mason talk. He is strongly against lynching among mason claims.

He says

Titus/dunn/zach are all town. Varsoon probably is too.

in 1876. If we lynch him and he flips scum, this is worth looking at.
He defends Nosferatu in 2051. He says he's happy with AGar pressure.
He changes his mind about Nosferatu/Vedith in 2272. He says he's willing to lynch him and says

Nos was one of my weakest townreads

. He also says

I actually haven't really been paying attention to Vedith's posts

. This is extra fishy.
He votes Vedith in 2294.
He unvoted Vedith and votes AGar in 2509. He prefers AGar lynch to Vedith. Little nervous here. Probably a diversion.
He votes Almost50 in 2859.
He says

Oh yeah i also want to lynch mirhawk more than before i think but i don't remember why it was

in 2863. Maybe because he was trying to save Vedith? Confirmation bias alert however.
He says

I am also willing to believe that the entire second half of the Vedith wagon is town

in 2907. Well thanks for including me in your townreads, but you didn't explain why is this.
He votes Mirhawk in 3016.
He talks down importance of Nosferatu associations in 3123. He doesn't think analyzing Lapsa's kill is going to be fruitful for town.

This is only an ISO as going through the whole game would be too much of a chore, so a lot of stuff here is taken out of context.
My conclusion after doing this is that there should be one scum in implosion/Mirhawk. Also, if he flips scum Sickofit/beeboy is probably town and he was grouping Sickofit/beeboy and Nosferatu together in his townreads in 407.
He has a thing for Mirhawk, he's frequently voting/unvoting him. I wouldn't rule out possibility of w/w here, but I'd say this is v/w interaction.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I see where suspicion about implosion is coming from.
I wouldn't rule out implosion/Vedith/Titus team. But that's a bit premature.

[Boem_u_dusi]

After skimming Mirhawk ISO, I think implosion is more suspicious here. I will listen to both sides.

VOTE: implosion

[Boem_u_dusi]

VOTE: implosion

Is this a good vote?

Read my 3227, ISO him and share your conclusions with us.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Not a fan of Mirhawk's 3247.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Titus and Wake could you please stop that pointless bickering, it's getting stale. Thanks in advance.

Titus, what makes you townread Airick10?
(qoute

Implosion wagon is 1-4 town

)

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@Boem - His very strong push leading the charge on Vedith immediately after subbing in.

Did you mix something up? Airick10 voted AGar, he never voted Vedith. And he didn't sub in. I think you're talking about beeboy.

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If you're not going to revote on Performer I can do a podo wagon

But the rest of you fucks may just let scum kill us all

?

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My POE is implosion/Mirhawk/Airick10. I could also vote in Performer/podoboq given good arguments, but I think one in implosion/Mirhawk/Airick10 has to go today.

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Wake, I'm too lazy to do your ISO but I recall you townreading/defending podoboq. Why?

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Yo Wake chill the fuck out real quick if you say " Podo if you're town come in here and help me" that obviously implies if podo doesn't come in here and interact and help you that he is scum in your eyes. That is how those statements work. That is kind of a threat.

What planet are you living on?

Boem

,

Implosion

,

Mirhawk

,

Varsoon

,

shannon

, all of you I am asking to come in here and give your thoughts on.

I think I ... don't care?

I predict doing podoboq ISO in my near future.

@Wake where did podoboq townslip?

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If we can clear podoboq, yay for us I guess.

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I don't understand you Wake. To me town seems like it's doing pretty fine now and it's hard to see all in implosion/Mirhawk/Airick as town.
I simply don't see the need for shenanigans at this point. I'm town and I'm doing my best to solve this game (I think you are too) and this

If you're Town I need you join me

rubs me the wrong way. That towbloc stuff seems risky to me, it's too easy for scum to slip in there. Currently I'm thinking implosion is our best shot for finding scum so that's where my vote is at the moment.

I don't understand that

he thought I was in a Scum PT

about podoboq, where did that happen?

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Huh, I guess I missed or forgot that.

@podoboq What are your thoughts about Wake then? What was the conclusion about that "slip"?

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Wait, how is podoboq clear because he pointed out possibility of a scumslip there? I don't get this logic.

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The way I'm looking at the game right now, I don't see how Titus and Dunnstral win this if they are playing together as scum. Let's assume they are mafia together. We already lynched one scum so they have one or two partners left in the game. If we don't lynch another scum in next day or two (three?), paranoia will creep in and they will crack under pressure.

I don't see why town needs to do shenanigans at this point, it's mafia who needs to pull off something in order to save this game. No need for all this.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Willing to lynch Titus/Dunnstral? Titus no. Dunnstral hell no.

[Boem_u_dusi]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66474

That's why I townread Dunn.

I'll be back in a week to comment on this.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Why are we discussing Dunnstral?
I want more talk about implosion/Mirhawk/Airick10. Performer/podoboq talk is also welcome.

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@Transcend: How sure you are about Airick10?

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@Titus okay, but I've been townreading Dunnstral pretty much the whole game. If he is scum, he's playing ridiculously well imo.

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@Dunnstral What about implosion and his general ... unsatisfactoriness?

[Boem_u_dusi]

I don't see it

Which is why I've been asking for an implosion case all game

How about my 3240? What's the case on Mirhawk?

[Boem_u_dusi]

OK. I'm fine with lynching either. Currently leaning on implosion, however Mirhawk flipping scum would make implosion look much better. Many things in implosion's ISO really bug me however.

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Then again, Mirhawk voting Dunn seems really desperate. I'm going to sleep on this.

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Mirhawk is cornered scum here. Look at his last post.

I don't see anything in implosion to indicate he's scum. That's not saying I see him as towny I just don't know why he's voted

Performer was towny in my mind too

OK let's do this then

VOTE: Performer

I laughed so hard

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Performer said he's subbing out in his latest post, which would be really shitty if he's scum.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Hey folks,

so I was doing a skim catchup before the servers crashed. Did a check of how d1 ended, I'm glad we got mafia scum. Not sure why there is Titus talking about reaction fishing while voting me - isn't the purpose of reaction fishing not supposed to be revealed that obviously?
Anyway , there have been irl commitments that are just getting in my way to properly continue contributing as a player in FM. I sincerely apologize but I'll have to replace out. I am town.

My honest apologies to the mod - I just don't believe I can stay invested as a player in FM games, the way my commitments are going on irl now. I have a number of wedding preparation events my friend has me helping out on, my career I'm doing overtime at, etc etc.

If he's mafia then he is a complete, total, absolute scumbag.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I got a little carried away here, but this stuff irritates me. I'd prefer playing a game without enabling replacements, this way I have to figure out who is an asshole and who really has some stuff going on in his/her life.

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That guy really likes subbing out. Doesn't make him scum though.