Am I the only one who remembers All Alone tunneling Gin?In post 4396, Dunnstral wrote:Really though, all alone I barely even noticed was in the game and I don't like them moving to vote wraith.
Slickdilinger reached l-1 multiple times I think and people avoid talking about him
I haven't read the majority of the past 50 or so pages because it's a chore and a few people are spamming the game and other are dumb
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In post 4410, drealmerz7 wrote:alisae just shut the fuck up
people will do what they want to do
you don't need to try and coach/direct/command every fucking single thing from every player
IT'S FUCKING ANNOYING AS SHIT
I don't think being told to shut up was called for but other than that I really like these two posts from D7. There was no reason for Ali to call Echo having stated that's he not seeing and/or understanding a case various times fence sitting. It's simply making his confusion and concerns known and demanding someone help address them.In post 4412, drealmerz7 wrote:no
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Why Titus?In post 4437, The Rebbe wrote:I'm still going through everything. My biggest town reads right now are on Titus and Mortfield. I would prefer to lynch ssbm today over wraith
I'm struggling to see the town motivation in claiming here. Did you see something while reading Kyouko's ISO that made you feel it was necessary to do so?In post 4447, The Rebbe wrote:Since I already claimed, I will also claim that I was informed from the mod that my predecessor was the one that shot texcat last night.-
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Why did you bring this up? Feels like you just scrambled to have something to say here.
Why are you scum reading people for activity? Again, why does it seem like you are saying this because you felt like you needed to say something? I feel like I can confidently say you don't actually believe what you're saying here based on my experiences with you.In post 4520, Alisae wrote:I don't see town motivation behind lurking as hard as they are currently and the aren't really trying to progress the gamestate currently.-
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What?In post 4526, Alisae wrote:I'm not being brought to late game if that makes you happy.
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Could you explain why we should believe your claim given your 4480 as well as Ali's 4599? Pine seems like the kind of a player who would at least crumb his result on Wraith.In post 4592, Severa wrote:I am not living tonight anyway so
I am 2-shot gunsmith. Wraith has gun. he is dying today.
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I don't think so given his join date as well as many people not knowing he's an RC alt.In post 4716, Human Sequencer wrote:@Uzi
This reads like a meta-soft tbh, can you see that?In post 4480, Severa wrote:It's not a soft and if I was softing my result would be pretty fucking obvious.
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Love you tooIn post 4717, Human Sequencer wrote:I still love you Uzi, I just don't understand the Creature push whatsoever.
Just something about this Wraith push overall doesn't sit well with me and I still don't understand why the Slick wagon didn't go through.
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Who though?In post 4721, Creature wrote:
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I'm not understanding. What does that have to do with talking about which posts are giving you said gut feelings? I'm not asking you to be aggressive and push these players now since I think we have two days until deadline and it looks like anyone not on the Wraith wagon will most likely have to compromise. I'm just asking you to simply point out a few posts that scream town or scum to you.In post 4723, Creature wrote:Like me.
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I don't think Ali has a scum game on site sadly. Ircher wasn't town in my opinion but Mort has done that slot justice so I agree with you there. Walk me through The Rebbe. Do you believe his claim?In post 4724, Creature wrote:rb is conftown.
Alisae looks pretty town, though I need to find a scum game of his.
You're town because, well, it looks like you're scumhunting.
drealmerz7 is town for the EOD.
MortFeld because his predecessor. Ircher seemed like town!himself.
Human Sequencer should be obvious.
The Rebbe "just" because Debi. Debi seemed to not know anything (though, looking more like town that don't know anything than scum).
EchoVision because his recent posts.
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I really want to talk about your scum reads.In post 4726, Creature wrote:Okay, I'll see, though my gut feelings come from "*very quickly checks ISO* hmm town".-
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The last 3. How did you get them?In post 4734, Creature wrote:
OkayIn post 4731, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I really want to talk about your scum reads.In post 4726, Creature wrote:Okay, I'll see, though my gut feelings come from "*very quickly checks ISO* hmm town".
Wraith? ssbm_Kyouko? SlickDilinger? All Alone? Zachstralkita? Titus?-
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All Alone disappearing is NAI, especially if they haven't been posting elsewhere.In post 4737, Creature wrote:All Alone sorta disappeared, not? I've had him as scum because of how he wasn't helping town at all.
Zachstralkita reminds me of Open 649, where him (scum) and Dunnstral (town) had opposite reads, but Dunnstral was non-serious. I think them having opposite reads is a sign one of them must be scum.
Gamma Emerald seemed bad. Titus looks worse, she flew off the radar for a while, now she's making these softtunnels like aiming to her town meta.
Could you link me to that game? I don't see why you think them being in synch means they are mostly likely town. I heard they tend to tunnel each other quite a bit whenever they play together.
Titus is a strong null for me. I've only played with town Titus before and while I saw a bit of that early on during the Gin fiasco it wasn't enough to sell me.
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This pretty much. Sadly a lynch is better than a no lynch and even with the replacements, I don't think we will be blessed with an extensionIn post 4809, Wraith wrote:Popping in to say this claim by Severa is clearly bullshit. Pine showed no signs of being suspicious of me. He scumread Alisae throughout D1 and then came out D2 immediately voting Alisae. So there's no reason Pine would investigate me over Alisae N1 and even less reason for him to continue pushing Alisae early D2 when he has a gun result on me.
Severa herself didn't even come out swinging against me, she went after Echo version and switched to me later. I assume because I provoked a wagon in my #3614
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I believe so.In post 4816, Wraith wrote:Oh am I at L-1?-
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VOTE: EchoIn post 5082, EchoVision wrote:why are we voting me when I hammered a scum?...
Why are you trying to fake being confused here? You aren't confirmed town or even close to it so you're reaction to being wagoned here is quite poor. Scum hammer scum all the time and this is something you should be even more aware of considering it's multi-ball.-
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Sorry to hear thatIn post 5104, MortFeld wrote:Btw I just got fired so starting tomorrow I'll be able to spend more time with y'all-
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Why are you opting to slow down with helping out? I don't think we're close to the finish line yet.In post 5130, Severa wrote:I'm pacing myself from this point on. I've done enough for town to be left alone until I know what I want to do.-
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Top 5.In post 5203, Zachstralkita wrote:fire avi there creature
Could you explain why you shifted focus from Titus to D7 here? I believe you are currently scum reading Severa so I don't understand why would you sheep him.
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I skimmed but I got the idea that you were flipping your read on him based on your 5142, 5143, and 5172.In post 5271, EchoVision wrote:
how the hell did you get the idea I was scum reading Severa...? now that rb is dead Severa and Alisae are my top two town reads...In post 5261, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Top 5.In post 5203, Zachstralkita wrote:fire avi there creature
Could you explain why you shifted focus from Titus to D7 here? I believe you are currently scum reading Severa so I don't understand why would you sheep him.
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I don't have a problem with your play style, I have a problem with you justifying wanting to coast because you caught one scum. The only confirmed town are the dead and we still have a bit of a way to go before the end.In post 5315, Severa wrote:Holy shit fuck off guys. I did what I had to do to get scum lynched. Have a problem with my playstyle, fine, but you are a fucking tool if you think that I'm scum for it.-
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Or, we could just focus on lynching scum. Why are so focused on the blue team?In post 5336, Severa wrote:Simple answer: because it's multiball.
Alternative: why don't you vig the people I actually want vigged and let's kill the entire blue team so you know that I didn't hard bus Wraith. Mmmk?-
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Sure, we can start on where we disagree, mainly your reads on Ali, HS, and Zach.In post 5370, drealmerz7 wrote:yo, LUV
what can I do for you?
we're getting fewer players, expect my participation to slowly increase accordingly
I am a huge waffle on EV and HS, - I see a lot of myself in their play (myself as town, especially when I get SR for taking stances certain ways) but them not being me, I can't tell if that is them as town or not
let's take HS because they've been on me a bit through the game - the read goes from scum thinking they can find a tiny little thing to blow out of proportion and get me lynched for it to a towny trying hard to find something that is scummy in someone, thinking they see it, and digging at it with a bit of an attack
You've been advocating for a few lynches based on policy throughout the game, Ali being one of them. Where do you stand on him now? They have toned down their spamming a bit and they were pushed heavily by a scum member from the blue team (Wraith) and a scum member from the red team (Texcat).
The spats you and HS have had just come from a difference in how to play the game and personalities clashing in my opinion. I don't think she was trying to blow anything out of proportion. Why don't you see that her push on you about your VC tracking comes from someone who feels that's the correct way to note take when you're rereading? As well her reaction to your call out of her play? The way she went on about these things into sort of a tunnel on you as well as how she explained how she has gotten her reads on a few players makes me feel she's town.
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This.In post 5401, Human Sequencer wrote:echovision is just taking shit out of context in the shallowest way possible
every point he raises has an easy logical step to the next one he just chooses not to take
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Why are you scum reading Mort? Ircher's play?
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That's Mort. He's a really good player from what I've seen and his town game can lead to paranoia spreading if he's still alive during the later stages of a game.In post 5517, drealmerz7 wrote:ircher's play is 2ndary
primary is that he is alive after stellar "townlike" play and he has a couple logical slips and I believe his entrance was a fake derp about the 2 teams as well
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No need. We aren't in lynch or lose.In post 5519, Alisae wrote:Also massclaim today or tomorrow?-
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I mean it's just the most simplest explanation. I'm not completely ruling out that the interactions he has had with the flipped scum members could be scum theatre but I doubt it.In post 5535, drealmerz7 wrote:ali's town because he's an easy lynch for scum to push???
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Let's try again.In post 5536, Alisae wrote:Mort they've been tunneling me the whole game and I think it's coming from town!drealmerz.
Drealmerz has a really good scum game and it scares me, but honestly right now I think scum would rather keep me alive at this point then to continue mindlessly tunnel me.
As for my Zach read I started to sort my reads by who is town and I narrowed down those 3 names who aren't town to me. Basicly I'm not townreading you therefore I'm okay with you dieing.
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I believe so. The middle of Day 1.In post 5541, Alisae wrote:Uzi, did you vote me day 1?-
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You just said yourself that you want to be extra careful today, so why aren't you reevaluating everyone? We share similar reads but I don't understand why you're so confident TB's play has been town or why you suddenly believe Creature is a vig and/or is town. Work with me here.In post 5545, Alisae wrote:nvm just read your ISO. And yes you did.
VOTE: Uzi
Let's kill this today.
pedit: I townread HS. I townread Mort. I townread TB. I'm not touching Creature today and I'm townreading Drealmerz. That's 5 townreads and 6 including myself.
It's not that I don't townread him
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Gut just says no.In post 5544, drealmerz7 wrote:but that makes NO SENSE, LUV!!!!!!
I think he's with severa and all that was an act
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Could you explain why? I assume meta?In post 5552, Alisae wrote:Yeah I don't see Uzi voting with Grey/Texcat slot the way he did D1.
Also Killing Texcat N1 points to Uzi because I feel like Uzi scumread that slot just as hard as I did.
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No, it just confirms that you probably didn't mean what you said. Taking this day slow and being careful means giving everyone another look even if you're confident in your gut.In post 5557, Alisae wrote:
Because I'm sticking to my insticts. The fact you want me to reevaluate everyone sorta confirms it because you know I can get paranoid. I rather stick to my guns.In post 5550, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
You just said yourself that you want to be extra careful today, so why aren't you reevaluating everyone? We share similar reads but I don't understand why you're so confident TB's play has been town or why you suddenly believe Creature is a vig and/or is town. Work with me here.In post 5545, Alisae wrote:nvm just read your ISO. And yes you did.
VOTE: Uzi
Let's kill this today.
pedit: I townread HS. I townread Mort. I townread TB. I'm not touching Creature today and I'm townreading Drealmerz. That's 5 townreads and 6 including myself.
It's not that I don't townread him
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In post 5559, Alisae wrote:
I don't think Grey would sheep you if you were buddies. It would just be obvious.In post 5556, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Could you explain why? I assume meta?In post 5552, Alisae wrote:Yeah I don't see Uzi voting with Grey/Texcat slot the way he did D1.
Also Killing Texcat N1 points to Uzi because I feel like Uzi scumread that slot just as hard as I did.
Uzi is blue scum.
Again, I'm assuming this is a meta read?In post 5562, Alisae wrote:Plus Uzi I don't think you would hardbus Texcat D1 if you were on the same team.-
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I don't understand a word of what you're trying to say.In post 5568, Alisae wrote:First post: I'm taking the day slow to sort who I think is red scum and who I think is blue scum. So far I sorted you to blue scum.
Second post: No, it's not meta. It's just seems crazy to think you're hardbusing Texcat in this situation.
I'm trying to figure out how you got to that conclusion. It seems like you're getting there by saying you don't think I would do that as town and/or I do this as scum.
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How did AA suddenly jump?In post 5574, drealmerz7 wrote:I thought you said you were TRing me...-
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Am I the only one that doesn't think Zach is scum? What's pinging the rest of you? I know he was against every lynch this game other than Gin and his reads have been a bit too spot on but the way he defended or vouched for those players feels like it's genuinely coming from town.In post 5607, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm willing to believe that Alisae is town based on todays posts tbh.
Zach, Creature, All Alone
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I recall you town reading me during the middle of D1. What changed and why?In post 5629, Alisae wrote:The Uzi read never changed.
I was nullreading the slot for most of the game from what I'm trying to remember.
This a bit flimsy. Didn't Titus disagreed with Severa and was sort of discrediting his claims? I have a feeling if she was still alive you would be scum reading her too.In post 5632, Alisae wrote:
Mort. Who here A. Discredited Severa's fakeclaims by saying Several was just VT fakeclaiming and B. Is not on the Wraith wagon?In post 5061, mhsmith0 wrote:
Lazy is AI?In post 5636, Alisae wrote:Plus HS's D3 play was really fucking lazy.-
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Plot twist!In post 5640, All Alone wrote:drealmerz7, I have an investigation result that suggests you're scum. please claim
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Why would he fake what looks to be a guilty on someone like D7?In post 5717, Human Sequencer wrote:
I don't agree with any part of this except 'AA is probably town.'In post 5715, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:AA is probably town. I don't see a reason for him to gambit here as scum. Especially on someone like D7.
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