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more like RVS, but never can't be sure with jestersIn post 82, Transcend wrote:Hey Ram do you fos Alisae or is that an RVS vote-
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bring it on
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you sure it's real Shaggy and not imposter?In post 86, Transcend wrote:lel
as much as i love large rvs wagons, shaggy's been there for me through thick and thin, and i cannot participate on this one. ;-;-
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no thxIn post 89, Alisae wrote:Hey Ram. You wanna watch some cute lolis dance for 1 hour and 10minutes?-
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i wonder how many smiles i have put at end of message for people to realize i'm joking...In post 114, Transcend wrote:
You can't vote more than one person unless your role permits it, however, I would like to hear who else you'd vote, and if you have substantial reason behind it or not.In post 109, Ramcius wrote:can i vote more than 1 person at once? Cause i feel urge to do so, really badly
as on serious note, i consider everyone of you to be a scum, until proven otherwise, with rope preferably Pep, Gamma and Alisae should already know that my preference-
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i'm not discussing any ongoing games, i'm just say you know my playstyle, and anyone can go and read that game, it's open for everyone
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you can try, maybe you see my true VI plays, it's easier to do so in large gamesIn post 129, Alisae wrote:So I'm gonna use this day to evaluate it!-
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nice try, Gamma, really nice try, but it's my job push people around, not yours, or rules changed?In post 172, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You seem to be suggesting lynching townIn post 122, Ramcius wrote:
i wonder how many smiles i have put at end of message for people to realize i'm joking...In post 114, Transcend wrote:
You can't vote more than one person unless your role permits it, however, I would like to hear who else you'd vote, and if you have substantial reason behind it or not.In post 109, Ramcius wrote:can i vote more than 1 person at once? Cause i feel urge to do so, really badly
as on serious note, i consider everyone of you to be a scum, until proven otherwise, with rope preferably Pep, Gamma and Alisae should already know that my preference-
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why so humble just king? Should be Prod GodIn post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The Mod King sound great tbhIn post 222, Pepchoninga wrote:
The Prod KingIn post 220, Gamma Emerald wrote:But who has been with both of me and transcend
btw I'm going to need a name for my mod alt/hydra
can anyone suggest a nice neutral sounding name-
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sure, says god of gods...In post 234, Pepchoninga wrote:
Bshssm. Hmmm, he needs to deserve to be the Prod God tho...In post 233, Ramcius wrote:
why so humble just king? Should be Prod GodIn post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The Mod King sound great tbhIn post 222, Pepchoninga wrote:
The Prod KingIn post 220, Gamma Emerald wrote:But who has been with both of me and transcend
btw I'm going to need a name for my mod alt/hydra
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i didn't said mighty you have earn thatIn post 237, Pepchoninga wrote:
I like that you are admitting that I am indeed THE ALL MIGHTY GOD OF GODS!In post 235, Ramcius wrote:
sure, says god of gods...In post 234, Pepchoninga wrote:
Bshssm. Hmmm, he needs to deserve to be the Prod God tho...In post 233, Ramcius wrote:
why so humble just king? Should be Prod GodIn post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The Mod King sound great tbhIn post 222, Pepchoninga wrote:
The Prod KingIn post 220, Gamma Emerald wrote:But who has been with both of me and transcend
btw I'm going to need a name for my mod alt/hydra
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contrary, i know you don'tIn post 240, Pepchoninga wrote:
It's not like you don't know I wilIn post 239, Ramcius wrote:
i didn't said mighty you have earn thatIn post 237, Pepchoninga wrote:
I like that you are admitting that I am indeed THE ALL MIGHTY GOD OF GODS!In post 235, Ramcius wrote:
sure, says god of gods...In post 234, Pepchoninga wrote:
Bshssm. Hmmm, he needs to deserve to be the Prod God tho...In post 233, Ramcius wrote:
why so humble just king? Should be Prod GodIn post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The Mod King sound great tbhIn post 222, Pepchoninga wrote:
The Prod KingIn post 220, Gamma Emerald wrote:But who has been with both of me and transcend
btw I'm going to need a name for my mod alt/hydra
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are you sure you want challenge me?In post 242, Pepchoninga wrote: I take this as a challenge.-
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don't say i didn't warned you laterIn post 244, Pepchoninga wrote:
Bring it on sucker!In post 243, Ramcius wrote:
are you sure you want challenge me?In post 242, Pepchoninga wrote: I take this as a challenge.-
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we'll see about thatIn post 246, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm all too great! There will be no later after my overwhelming awesomeness crashes you!In post 245, Ramcius wrote:
don't say i didn't warned you laterIn post 244, Pepchoninga wrote:
Bring it on sucker!In post 243, Ramcius wrote:
are you sure you want challenge me?In post 242, Pepchoninga wrote: I take this as a challenge.-
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why vote him?
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i can't see him pushing on that guy, so i take that as RVS vote until he tries defend his position, and you shouldn't trow naked votes aroundIn post 264, Alisae wrote:Immediately voting the dude who called my fake mason claim is basicly a cheap and easy way to get an easy justified vote.
And the shitposting doesn't feel like it's coming from town!Gamma so he's most likely trying to hide in it.-
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sure i can, but sheeping is scummy, or starting wagon like that without stating a reason, and next time it might be wagon on you after naked voteIn post 268, Alisae wrote:
Then you can be a good townie and ask why I do thingsIn [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8706153#p8706153]post 266[/url], Ramcius wrote:
i can't see him pushing on that guy, so i take that as RVS vote until he tries defend his position, and you shouldn't trow naked votes aroundIn post 264, Alisae wrote:Immediately voting the dude who called my fake mason claim is basicly a cheap and easy way to get an easy justified vote.
And the shitposting doesn't feel like it's coming from town!Gamma so he's most likely trying to hide in it.-
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it's was very obvious fake claim, but i know from experience most obvious things are hardest to spot, and that applies to fm way too often for my likingIn post 269, ConManMick wrote:
But a mason claim that early in the game, no?In post 143, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Not really but it's antitown to vote a mason claim anywayIn post 141, Pepchoninga wrote:Lol you belive his claim?
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well, me and Alisae have still ongoing game together, so till it's not ended, i can't explain my actions, but why you think i can't have genuine feel on Alisae to be scum?In post 278, Jaack wrote:Actual real vote time.
VOTE: Ramcius
While it's not alone worth voting for, I've never really liked plays type disclaimers like the one in 122. They always read more like preemptive excuse making.
Moving along, I don't really like 266 or 270 either. They both have this wishy washy tone in that they aren't outright calling Alisae scum, but they are implying it in a way that would be easy to back out of. And while his vote is on Alisae it's essentially an RVS vote from waaay back, so, again, it's an almost kinda scumread that's easy to back out of.-
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i'm in no rush, we just started, also i know Alisae isn't experienced very much in fm, hence my slower approach. And that about wagon next time was more in general, i didn't mean just this gameIn post 285, Jaack wrote:
I never said your scumread couldn't be real. Even scum are going to have real scumreads in multiball.In post 279, Ramcius wrote:well, me and Alisae have still ongoing game together, so till it's not ended, i can't explain my actions, but why you think i can't have genuine feel on Alisae to be scum?
My problem was that it looks like you were trying to avoid committing to scumreading Alisae. Your vote was there and you were questioning him but it looked like you were letting yourself out of the read. For example:
This reads to me like you have a legitimate reason to scumread Alisae, but you're letting him off the hook.In post 270, Ramcius wrote:sure i can, but sheeping is scummy, or starting wagon like that without stating a reason, and next time it might be wagon on you after naked vote
Next time there might be a wagon? Why not push for it this time? You're vote may be there, but I don't get the feeling from your posts that your that interested in pressuring him.-
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what i can see, i'm very observative personIn post 310, Alisae wrote:
Lol basing my meta off of one game. Cute.In post 279, Ramcius wrote:
well, me and Alisae have still ongoing game together, so till it's not ended, i can't explain my actions, but why you think i can't have genuine feel on Alisae to be scum?In post 278, Jaack wrote:Actual real vote time.
VOTE: Ramcius
While it's not alone worth voting for, I've never really liked plays type disclaimers like the one in 122. They always read more like preemptive excuse making.
Moving along, I don't really like 266 or 270 either. They both have this wishy washy tone in that they aren't outright calling Alisae scum, but they are implying it in a way that would be easy to back out of. And while his vote is on Alisae it's essentially an RVS vote from waaay back, so, again, it's an almost kinda scumread that's easy to back out of.
i like this idea, i named myself "maniac with an bloody axe" in a past for a reasonIn post 317, drealmerz7 wrote:
ooo I like how you play, at least this part!In post 122, Ramcius wrote: as on serious note, i consider everyone of you to be a scum, until proven otherwise, with rope preferably Pep, Gamma and Alisae should already know that my preference
always on the potential scumlist until convinced (or, as you say, preferably proven by rope) otherwise
fuck ropes though
I like axes
I'm doing lynches with AXES from now on-
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nah, i'm good, i have 2 weeks here to read you more, btw, why you worry about my RVS vote from way back, but ignore others after you?
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hm, i dunno, people voting you maybe?In post 385, Alisae wrote:What others?-
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so, why you decided defend against me then? I haven't made a case or anything against youIn post 387, Alisae wrote:I haven't been for the record. Also a VC would help.-
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In post 389, Alisae wrote:no I haven't been ignoring them I defended myself against them last I checked.
Moreso I'm defending myself against you right now because you're here.2 pages back, you don't care for naked vote on you, why?
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hm, nope, you attacked him before vote, after vote you just coming after me, you ignored that vote, do i make you frustrated again? If so, good thenIn post 391, Alisae wrote:I've been attacking Yoshi instead of defending myself against him.-
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exactly, you care me more than OMGUS vote from your suspect, which is weird
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You just proved your push against Yoshi is fake, you ignored his OMGUS vote, even when i pointed out, you was just like "meh" and you scared by my RVS vote enough to go in all this fight with me despite i haven't gave any reasonable arguments to accuse youIn post 396, Alisae wrote:Huh?-
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why town suppose to be carefree? In my experience it's scum always play more loose, cause they know who are their buddies, so everyone else is good for lynch, while town have guess, and odds are not on their favorIn post 410, Transcend wrote:Why are you playing so cautiously? Town tend to be more free spirited and carefree. Are you that paranoid of your actions this early?-
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It's not about how they look, but about being afraid to do mistake, which is understandable from town, especially when game just started and most tread is just pointless noiseIn post 412, Transcend wrote:Bc from experience, town don't care how they appear as they get to act genuinely.-
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how scum can do mistake voting someone? Cause your point was Pep didn't voted person he called suspIn post 418, Transcend wrote:I'm actually more conscious of making mistakes as scum since my play is tactical and precise as scum.-
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And why bad answer? Vote on Yoshi was RVS vote and i think even before Yoshi did anything much, on top Yoshi vote wasn't strong, he admitted himselfIn post 422, Transcend wrote:
It's hard to explainIn post 420, Ramcius wrote:
how scum can do mistake voting someone? Cause your point was Pep didn't voted person he called suspIn post 418, Transcend wrote:I'm actually more conscious of making mistakes as scum since my play is tactical and precise as scum.
Scum have to fabricate reads and bank on the town buying them. If town doesn't buy them, they get lynched. No fabrication occurs being town and imo planting votes as town is a lot easier.
Hope that helps?
Regardless I've seen no progression from this slot and his response to yoshi voting him whilst voting yoshi was p bad.
also, thx for basics, but i know how things works, and i see you as a trying find someone scummy just to have someone at bottom on your rainbow and you stretching Pep-
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I never said i don't believe you, i'm saying your reasoning is weak, as for voting, i don't like trow votes right or left, i prefer confront people directly, and if i find them scummy afterwards and there are other people who agree with me, i consider voting, keeping in mind i might have several scumreads at a time and i could vote only 1 at a time, so for now you can feel safe, i'm not gonna vote youIn post 426, Transcend wrote:Yoshi made some advancement from the time pep was voted by him. Pep hasn't genuinely advanced in his thought process and has focused more on the defense rather than the offense.
Look it's page 17 and one day into this game. I'm not gonna shove my opinion down my throat since, chances are, I'm wrong. But for now it's a place i want to vote. Don't agree with me? Fine. Want to vote me for it? Fine. But i stand by my opinion and if you don't believe me then that's your opinion.-
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no, it's my playstyle lynch everybody till no one left to oppose meIn post 431, Pepchoninga wrote:
Sure and your playstyle as town is just - "Lynch galore and hopefully we hit the jackpot"In post 418, Transcend wrote:I'm actually more conscious of making mistakes as scum since my play is tactical and precise as scum.
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i just referring to other game, i pushed Alisae and Acc most to their deathIn post 436, Pepchoninga wrote:
This kinda contradicts with the post you made just before the one I'm quoting...In post 433, Ramcius wrote:
no, it's my playstyle lynch everybody till no one left to oppose meIn post 431, Pepchoninga wrote:
Sure and your playstyle as town is just - "Lynch galore and hopefully we hit the jackpot"In post 418, Transcend wrote:I'm actually more conscious of making mistakes as scum since my play is tactical and precise as scum.
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why he's town?In post 462, gerryoat wrote:Transcend I'd town lol-
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wut? are you try claim some sort of 3p?In post 550, Pepchoninga wrote:
I don't. That's why I talk from a neutral perspective. Also from his to an extent too. I doubt he thinks he is mafia, even if he is. So the way I present things is good for everybody.In post 542, Alisae wrote:
Not the problem here.In post 540, Pepchoninga wrote:
You know I never talk from a town perspective.In post 539, Alisae wrote:
???????????In post 536, Pepchoninga wrote:Don't really care wether I'm on your good side or not, as long as you are willing to cooperate with the rest to have a good discussion andultimately achieving our alignment's goal.
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i don't, i simply don't like the way he do it, if he's not some friendly/neutral towards town wincon 3p, he earned straight way on top of my scumlistIn post 566, Pine wrote:Ramicus, that's clearly just a colloquialism. Don't over-interpret.-
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well, he wasn't in a rush to vote there too, but something feels different, and now this neutral POV is huge not town tellIn post 568, Alisae wrote:Ram, let me ask you this question then. Does his play seem different then the game that you two just finshed?-
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How you know you not same alignment? Assuming you town, cause town don't know each other, and putting you on bottom on readlist not makes him scumIn post 576, Pepchoninga wrote:
Yep, your reads are bad. I'm not the same alignment with him. He put me on the bottom of his reads ffs.In post 571, Alisae wrote:2. Nah. Plus getting roasted by Pine is nothing new.
3. I think you implied that you two are the same alignment.
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why you don't like me? Cause i question you this time?In post 577, Pepchoninga wrote:
I don't exactly have finished reads. I dislike Trans and Ram.In post 575, Alisae wrote:Um, I wasn't really asking you that question but ok.
Describe to me your throught process currently.
And I wouldn't be so sure if it's right since we don't exactly have any flips yet.
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you just quoted your words that you not same alignment with him, how you know?In post 581, Pepchoninga wrote:
I never implied that we weren't. I said that I don't like him. And I'm talking from a netrial perspective cu that's the way I talk.In post 578, Ramcius wrote:
How you know you not same alignment? Assuming you town, cause town don't know each other, and putting you on bottom on readlist not makes him scumIn post 576, Pepchoninga wrote:
Yep, your reads are bad. I'm not the same alignment with him. He put me on the bottom of his reads ffs.In post 571, Alisae wrote:2. Nah. Plus getting roasted by Pine is nothing new.
3. I think you implied that you two are the same alignment.
VOTE: Pep
really? i already pushed Alisae a bit, Trrancended later, now i'm pushing you, and it's not micro newbie game, i can't go guns blazing and expect everyone follow my lead, and town have no reason to talk from neutral POV, they have majority, they decide who lives and dies every day, it's mafia and 3p have try compromises, and you not giving me town vibes at all nowIn post 582, Pepchoninga wrote:
Mostly gut for now, but your way of playing has changed much more drastically then me. You were much more active and aggressive.In post 580, Ramcius wrote:
why you don't like me? Cause i question you this time?In post 577, Pepchoninga wrote:
I don't exactly have finished reads. I dislike Trans and Ram.In post 575, Alisae wrote:Um, I wasn't really asking you that question but ok.
Describe to me your throught process currently.
And I wouldn't be so sure if it's right since we don't exactly have any flips yet.
With that said, also if you provide me with reads that'll be cool.-
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So, you saying he's scum? Why it can't be TvT?In post 592, Pepchoninga wrote: Ok, A little but of misunderstanding. From his PoV I'm not the same alignment as him. He wouldn't put me in there exept if you want to interprete it as some WIFOM.
As I said gut feeling. I don't say you don't do anything. I'm saying you have changed on a tactical level. As you saw in the Newbie game your attitude and aggression almost got big results. That is why in the end you were killed. Here you seem fake. This is yet to be confrimed, but it is there.
Me being aggressive or not is NAI, as for here, game isn't so slow as was there, we have action going on, so no need my inteference and people are much more skilled, so not so much of slips to call people out like was there.-
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you should learn to be lynchproof insteadIn post 612, Pepchoninga wrote:
People do tend to use me as lynch bait.In post 610, Transcend wrote:
Can see this nowIn post 18, Alisae wrote:BTW just saying this now, Pep is garenteed to be lynchbait.-
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or get lynched and don't know why, which is more likely, when try being lynchbait - smart scums avoid lynchbait wagonsIn post 632, Alisae wrote:Or Pep you can play like lynchbait and figure out who is the scum on your wagon.-
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no, i'm notIn post 637, Pepchoninga wrote:
Are you smart?In post 635, Ramcius wrote:
or get lynched and don't know why, which is more likely, when try being lynchbait - smart scums avoid lynchbait wagonsIn post 632, Alisae wrote:Or Pep you can play like lynchbait and figure out who is the scum on your wagon.-
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i'm not saying no scum will be on lynchbait wagon, but now we need 10 to lynch, so will be like 2-3 scum in big wagon, so odds aren't that good to find scum this wayIn post 638, Alisae wrote:
Really? I thought it was that scum love to push lynchbait wagons.In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716031#p8716031]post 635[/url], Ramcius wrote:
or get lynched and don't know why, which is more likely, when try being lynchbait - smart scums avoid lynchbait wagonsIn post 632, Alisae wrote:Or Pep you can play like lynchbait and figure out who is the scum on your wagon.-
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he try get scumslip from me, he can try, i get more about him this wayIn post 640, Alisae wrote:Pep what does that response tell you about Ramcius?
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i answered, cause i have nothing to hide, and i want see his next moveIn post 643, Alisae wrote:
I wasn't asking you but ok.In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716189#p8716189]post 642[/url], Ramcius wrote:
he try get scumslip from me, he can try, i get more about him this wayIn post 640, Alisae wrote:Pep what does that response tell you about Ramcius?
Why did you ask it in the first place?
Why did you answer for Pep?
I have another question to ask you about this response, but I'll ask that after Pep has responded.-
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sometimes, sadly not this timeIn post 645, Pepchoninga wrote:
So you are dumb scum?In post 639, Ramcius wrote:
no, i'm notIn post 637, Pepchoninga wrote:
Are you smart?In post 635, Ramcius wrote:
or get lynched and don't know why, which is more likely, when try being lynchbait - smart scums avoid lynchbait wagonsIn post 632, Alisae wrote:Or Pep you can play like lynchbait and figure out who is the scum on your wagon.-
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Attempt? Pep already try and i don't mind for little mind gameIn post 654, Alisae wrote:
Okay Ram, next question.In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716207#p8716207]post 644[/url], Ramcius wrote:
i answered, cause i have nothing to hide, and i want see his next moveIn post 643, Alisae wrote:
I wasn't asking you but ok.In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716189#p8716189]post 642[/url], Ramcius wrote:
he try get scumslip from me, he can try, i get more about him this wayIn post 640, Alisae wrote:Pep what does that response tell you about Ramcius?
Why did you ask it in the first place?
Why did you answer for Pep?
I have another question to ask you about this response, but I'll ask that after Pep has responded.
Why did you give the response that you did? To me it seems like you want someone to attempt to discredit your slot.
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you look familiar, did we met before somewhere?
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you literally asked me if i'm scum, what answer you expected? "oh, you got me, i'm surrender"?In post 687, Pepchoninga wrote:
Not good may be going to far. Not satisfying for the way I read the slot -more like it.In post 676, Alisae wrote:
Why is that response not good?In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716243#p8716243]post 647[/url], Pepchoninga wrote:
Nothing good unfortunately.In post 640, Alisae wrote:Pep what does that response tell you about Ramcius?
Why did you ask it in the first place?
And I did because I wanna see the response. It's an easy question and the answer says alot. The fact that he think I wanted to get him to make a scum slip is just confirming that he is trying to hard.-
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I said "smart scum" in my post to Alisae, you right after asked if i'm smart, i can make connection here easily, considering you accused me before, i did assumption you want me to scumslip to give reason for push on me, your "you not so aggressive like in other game" is by far too weak and NAI to push for my lynch. Also, your belief on my town reaction is based on my meta from other game?In post 694, Pepchoninga wrote:
I didn't ask you if you were scum. I asked if you were smart. I did ask if you are a bad scum however. Your inability to see beyond what a question may seem question is quite interesting. You read everything I ask you off as trying to make you scumslip. This just confirms that you don't want people to get you to scumslip. I belive that if you were town you wouldn't react the way you did.In post 689, Ramcius wrote:
you literally asked me if i'm scum, what answer you expected? "oh, you got me, i'm surrender"?In post 687, Pepchoninga wrote:
Not good may be going to far. Not satisfying for the way I read the slot -more like it.In post 676, Alisae wrote:
Why is that response not good?In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716243#p8716243]post 647[/url], Pepchoninga wrote:
Nothing good unfortunately.In post 640, Alisae wrote:Pep what does that response tell you about Ramcius?
Why did you ask it in the first place?
And I did because I wanna see the response. It's an easy question and the answer says alot. The fact that he think I wanted to get him to make a scum slip is just confirming that he is trying to hard.-
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Maybe it's your questions are bad, not my answers? If someone ask me in serious manner, i answer serious, but you try provoke me, so why you expect serious answers? If you have something against me, we can discuss, but Jaack and Lemon Tree look more serious than yours "you not so aggressive" and obvious provoke attemptsIn post 717, Pepchoninga wrote: To some extent yes, many people base meta on other games too. It should never be anything close to a leading factor tho. It is but a guideline for a better view on the player you at hand and helps with the analysis as you have an idea of how a person generally thinks. From then on tho, I'm pursuing in gaining more food on you, so I can form a read around this game and around solid arguments and not by gut and past game experience. I have stated what I have. I find you attitude disturbing and also your answeres not satisfying.-
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