Riddle Me This! NY111 - mafia dead - Town wins!

[farside22]

The last mafia member shakes at all the loses he has had over the past few days. With the mod boss gone and only 1 kill he can perform every other night. He looks at his knife
I will not let them take me down. I would rather die first.
He throws down the knife and jumps off a 50 ft building

Hey wouldn't you rather die quickly instead of painfully?

His body slat's to the ground. Every bone is broken.

inHimshallibe -

Mafia Odd Night Murder

- self killed Night 5

Town wins!!!!

[farside22]

Roles

You are a

Vanilla Townie

and have no special ablities other then your wit.

Players:
*ImmuneShadow/sorasgoof
*Thestatusquo
*mipe/nachomamma8
*Richard Massive
*dahill1
*VasudeVad

You are a

Town Roleblocker

and can submit one person's name every night. That person will be unable to use an ability if they have one, for that night Phase.

*Dr.Cyanide

You are a

Town Bodyguard

and can submit one person's name every night. That person will not be killed if targeted by a kill action and you will be killed insted. You can only stop one kill.

*FeFiFoFum/furcolow

You are a

Town Even Night Tracker

and can submit one person's name every even night phase (2,4,6,ect). You will then learn who that person targeted, if anyone, for that night phase.

*RichardGHP

You are a

Town Odd Night Watcher

and can submit one person's name every odd night phase (1,3,5,ect). You will then learn who targeted that person, if anyone, for that night phase. You can not target yourself.

*DizzyIzzyB13/amished

You are a

Town Even Night Vigilante

and can submit one person's name every even night phase (2,4,6,ect). That person will then be killed the next day phase assuming nothing prevents the kill.

*Anon

You are a

Town Odd Night Vigilante

and can submit one person's name every odd night phase (1,3,5,ect). That person will then be killed the next day phase assuming nothing prevents the kill.

*Shanba

You are a

Town Even Night Cop

and can submit one person's name every even night phase (2,4,6,ect). That person's alignment will then be revealed to you as either

Town

or

Mafia

. You can not target yourself.

*springlullaby/yos2

You are a

Town Odd Night Cop

and can submit one person's name every odd night phase (1,3,5,ect). That person's alignment will then be revealed to you as either

Town

or

Mafia

. You can not target yourself.

*Korts

Welcome to RiddleVille, a mysterious place where people have a habit of talking in Riddles! It is clear to you that they need knew management so time to take over the town!

Only people desinated as Murder's can kill. If they die, then your scum team does not have a night kill.

You can discuss with your scum team every night and durning pre-game at this quick topic thread here

You are the

Mafia Godfather

. When targeted by cop roles, you will apear as

Town

in his/her reports.

*scotmany12

You are the

Mafia Odd Night Murder

and can submit one person's name every odd night to kill (1,3,5,ect). That person will die the next morning unless your kill is prevented. You are one of two people on your team that can Night Kill.

* inHimshallibe

You are the

Mafia Even Night Murder

and can submit one person's name every even night to kill (2,4,6,ect). That person will die the next morning unless your kill is prevented. You are one of two people on your team that can Night Kill.

*Chevre/Paltry Excuse/Cove

You are the

Mafia Odd Night Doctor

and can submit one person's name every odd night to protect (1,3,5,ect). That person will not die the next day unless you are prevented or killed the night before.

*theopor_COD/zoraster

You are the

Mafia Even Night Doctor

and can submit one person's name every even night to protect (2,4,6,ect). That person will not die the next day unless you are prevented or killed the night before.

*ksun482

You are a regular

Mafia Goon

and have no special ablities.

*Quagmire/don_Johnson

Let me know what else you need.

[Amished]

Good deal. Fun playing with you Yos; I think this was the first time ever..

[VasudeVa]

Excellent scumhunting by Amished and Yos btw. I learned a lot from you two.

While this isn't the best game I played, I liked how you guys distinguished scummy townies from scum.

[Amished]

Now you just need to learn how to not be a scummy townie in the first place! Cove/PE was literally the only reason I didn't want to lynch you.

[VasudeVa]

Yeah. I'm D1 lynchbait whenever I'm town. I need to work on that. >.>.

[Amished]

Scumteam of: scotmany, inHim, dj, Cove, Zoraster, and ksun.

Going back to when I came into the thread:

@nm8: looks like your excessive bandwagoning accusation on VV didn't really work this game..

Shoulda seen dj's vote of Cove for what it was; that's really weak in retrospect =\
scot *was* the buddy attacking me like that; hurray for confirmation

Anon gets some serious respect from me; you were pretty much right on on everybody since I've replaced in. The killing of scot was perfect, if you go back there was a lot of "maybe scot is town, maybe he's scum" that I don't know if he would've gotten to a lynch with the current people.

Also, I thought this was kinda fun:

Need an Odd night killer.

3. RichardGHP
4. doc_johnson Quagmire
7. VasudeVa
8. Amished DizzyIzzyB13
11. Anon
12. Nachomamma8 mipe
17. Yosarian2 springlullaby
18. inHimshallibe
20. dahill1

Richard (depending on results);

dj and inHim are my top suspects

. I don't see how we can lose at this point with 1 scum in 8 people if we just lynch the people aren't really pro-town.

[scotmany12]

Mafia played bad. Pretty bad. Though when the majority of the group gets replaced out its tough. Probably should have killed anon instead of fonz. Really disliked the setup, I wouldn't qualify this as a normal game. Plus, the mod who originally flaked (thanks for taking over farside) refused to tell the mafia who our scum buddies were for quite a while. Only until we all asked in the quicktopic did he finally give us a list.

Amished, you played really good, but that "tell" on paltry/cove you used isn't a tell at all. You have got lucky the other times you used it, but that isn't a scumtell.

Also, Anon, while I was legit scummy, and knew you were going to kill me, that "he's scum because he asked for my reasoning," is not a legit reason to think someone is scum. However, you still had every right to kill me as I was scummy and had not been playing well.

Meh...not happy with this game on a lot of fronts.

[scotmany12]

Also. I wanted to say something about the zoraster lynch. Not the him being lynched part, but I disliked how some people were criticizing his v/la. That didn't sit well with me at all. He was obviously busy, calling his v/la convenient and pissant is kinda classless.

[Amished]

@scot: Then we'll agree to disagree on the tell.

However, had you killed Anon; I would've outed myself as the odd night watcher since I watched Anon on N3 (Izzy watched Yos N1; and I watched Yos N5)

[scotmany12]

Also, too many scum, and too many powerroles for the town. Setup was a mess.

[don_johnson]

i didn't read a single page. null tell as i've done it as town as well, but when i replaced in the scum were already behind the eight ball. fun playing with everyone though. town really pulled together nicely.

[Nachomamma8]

Good work, Amish, Yos, Anon.

'Tis a bittersweet ending for me since VV proved my tell wrong
Alas, another day, another time, another game...

[RichardGHP]

Woot, town win, yay.

Now is as good a time as any to tell you that my D5 report was faked.

[inHimshallibe]

I was pretty good at picking out power roles. Not so good at not letting the rest of my team die like a house of cards. I felt handcuffed to lynches most of the time.

Which means it was a job well done by Town. Good game.

[Amished]

Yeah, I went through and saw you were on pretty much every lynch inHim... Jeez.

@Richard: why would you fake something like that?

I do think it should've been quite swingy; town had a lot of power to get rid of a *lot* of scum

[The Fonz]

Mafia played bad. Pretty bad. Though when the majority of the group gets replaced out its tough. Probably should have killed anon instead of fonz. Really disliked the setup, I wouldn't qualify this as a normal game.

Plus, the mod who originally flaked (thanks for taking over farside) refused to tell the mafia who our scum buddies were for quite a while.

Only until we all asked in the quicktopic did he finally give us a list.

That was terrible modding, tbh. This game also could have been broken by D1 massclaim, which is usually the sign of modfail. I don't have a problem with a big scumgroup with a significant problem (having to protect the murderers). Too many confirmable town definitely was a problem. Of course, there were the scum doctors. Scum shot themselves in the foot completely by not fakeclaiming (though, I suppose Zoraster probably had reason to believe his V/LA would protect him better than a claim).

Might have helped, but as you can see from the QT, I'd have been going after Don all guns blazing the next morning had I lived (I re-read overnight and the one big thing that came up was that Quag's D1 Richard vote was scummy as hell), and then gone for you when he flipped scum.

Amished, you played really good, but that "tell" on paltry/cove you used isn't a tell at all. You have got lucky the other times you used it, but that isn't a scumtell.

I think you're being obstinate here. It clearly makes sense. There are explanations for the behaviour other than scum-ness, and you can't expect it to go on working every time, because no tell is that good, but it's worth going with.

Also, Anon, while I was legit scummy, and knew you were going to kill me, that "he's scum because he asked for my reasoning," is not a legit reason to think someone is scum.

Yeah, I agree here.

Woot, town win, yay.

Now is as good a time as any to tell you that my D5 report was faked.

Yeah, and everyone suspected as such, because it seemed clear only the designated murderers could kill. That was a truly horrible, horrible thing to do, and was more likely to get you lynched than almost anything else you could have done. What was the actual case? You forgot to submit one?

As for Scot's argument about Zoraster, I couldn't disagree more. Town has every right to express frustration at a very scummy player, and the leading candidate for lynching, claiming a V/LA which happens to run to the day after the deadline, even if it is entirely true. We didn't 'attack him' for being V/LA at all. Pissant just means annoying. Zoraster's attempt to strawman the wagon on him didn't help his cause.

[Anon]

Mafia played bad. Pretty bad. Though when the majority of the group gets replaced out its tough. Probably should have killed anon instead of fonz. Really disliked the setup, I wouldn't qualify this as a normal game. Plus, the mod who originally flaked (thanks for taking over farside) refused to tell the mafia who our scum buddies were for quite a while. Only until we all asked in the quicktopic did he finally give us a list.

Amished, you played really good, but that "tell" on paltry/cove you used isn't a tell at all. You have got lucky the other times you used it, but that isn't a scumtell.

Also, Anon, while I was legit scummy, and knew you were going to kill me, that "he's scum because he asked for my reasoning," is not a legit reason to think someone is scum. However, you still had every right to kill me as I was scummy and had not been playing well.

Meh...not happy with this game on a lot of fronts.

I really dont know how to explain how I realized you were scum. Its not because you asked for my reasoning. Its because you were asking for additional information you wouldn't need as a townie entity with solid reads. In this case, you asked for additional reasoning for thinking donjhonson was scum. Why would you need more information if you already had donjhonson as scum?

[Anon]

Anyways I almost replaced out of this game for lack of time. Glad I didnt. Only came back when you were about to lynch me to claim after mod couldnt find a replacement.

Im really proud of this game. The majority of my reads were accurate once I got back. Even Richard. He was a scumbag with a town PM. ¬¬

Good game all. Shame on deathnote for flaking and because I agree this was a good idea but terribly implemented.

[Yosarian2]

Good game, everyone.

I don't know if the game was unbalanced; if a few pro-town people had gotten mislynched early, the large scum voting block could easily have swung the game the other way.

I was so frustrated when I got roleblocked on night 2, heh. My whole game plan was to get through the first few days without getting nightkilled, get off one investigation, claim, and then probably get nightkilled; seemed like the best way I could help the town. And then I wanted to make absolutely sure I gave no sign of it on day 3, in case there was a scum roleblocker watching me to see if I would react to being roleblocked. Whole thing totally threw me off my game for a little while there, and I really wasn't playing my best for a big part of day 3.

Other then that, though, I'm pretty happy with my play this game. Most of my reads were pretty solid, and I'm glad I was open minded enough to stop going after Richard once I had reason to think he might be town from his tracker claim.

[RichardGHP]

Was there a dead QT?
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I faked the report because I didn't get to request one that night and I figured it made sense, from a logical standpoint, for a godfather to have the ability to kill as well as the murderers. I suppose I was hoping it would go unnoticed. Please don't berate me too heavily for it. Mistakes, learning from them, moving on and so on.

[Anon]

Ive lost the little respect I had for you, Richard.

[RichardGHP]

Couldn't really care less. A lot of people hate me, one extra doesn't add anything interesting.

[Anon]

I dont hate you. I dont understand how someone cant improve even a little after some games.

[RichardGHP]

I'm taking up a new playstyle in all games I sign up for; you might just approve of it.