NY 120: Flash mafia 2. GAME OVER

[Internet Stranger]

votecount

mikeburnfire (2): Parama, Untrod Tripod
Vollkan (2): Internet Stranger, Battousai
Internet Stranger (1): mikeburnfire

not voting (2): Vollkan, Fishythefish

with 7 players, it is 4 to lynch


Oh Mr. Parama, Its not empty rhetoric at all. In fact, Batt seems to be the only one who sees it. All scenarios point to Vollkan being scum. How do I know? Because the game isnt over yet.

The scum are 3 of these 4: Vollkan, UT, Parama, MBF

If MBF was innocent, then Parama, UT are scum and Vollkan is waiting for someone else to vote so he can hammer.
If Vollkan was innocent and I was scum (which im not), he would be dead already and the scum would be celebrating and rubbing it in my face.
but thats only if
If MBF is also scum, then that means that Batt and IS would both be scum and waiting for someone else to join in so MBF can hammer, but MBF wouldnt be voting for me and pushing for my lynching so hard in that case. Also, the fact that im alive means that the scum need an innocent to vote for me first, so thats puts MBF as scum with Vollkan as well. If Batt was scum, he wouldnt be voting for Vollkan, he would be voting for me of MBF.

So that means that Vollkan being scum is the only explanation of why this game isnt over yet.

[mikeburnfire]

I was initially going to unvote you because you started to actually convince me, but then I realized that this is crap.

First of all, you didn't have this reasoning when the day started, when you began this tirade. You're just going back and retroactively justifying it. For the longest time you were just yelling about the point system and about some conspiracy that never manifested until you began to play the victim.

Secondly, you never answered me when I asked you this:

If anyone is setting you up, it's Fishy. You know, the guy who expressed a strong desire to lynch you as soon as day began and said he would have voted you if not for LyLo reasons. Why aren't you addressing him?

Thirdly, while I think that analyzing the wagons hold merit, I think too much effort is being placed on them right now. The fact of the matter is that both me and Vollkan are at L-2, and I believe that we're both pro-town. The scum could be on either wagon, waiting for a third vote before they pounce. Yeah, they could try to quickly double vote for a lynch, or they can just wait it out because at this point they're headed for victory regardless.

[mikeburnfire]

I'm almost certain that the scum are in [Parama, Untrod Tripod, Internet Stranger, Battousai]

but I don't think that there's enough support to get any of these guys lynched, so town's screwed. Somebody hurry up and mislynch vollkan or me so that we can get on with our lives.

[Internet Stranger]

MBF, how could I have had this reasoning when the day started? The voting patterns werent there yet. The points regarding vollkans scummeter and his conspiracy against me still stand. You yourself played the dead horse trick on me, now youre chastising me for bringing in fresh information?

I havent addressed anyone, really. My focus has been on catching the Vollkanscum. What am I supposed to say to Fishy? He is just as stuck as the rest of us.
The fact remains that Vollkan is the scum and I explained the scenarios above. This game would have been over already if Vollkan wasnt scum.

So my vote still stands. Vollkan is scum and im not changing my vote.

[Untrod Tripod]

so much of my vote on MBF was centered around the fact that he was coasting for the previous days of the game.

I can see it two ways:
either 1 . that's just your playstyle, and now that you have a compelling reason to get more involved, you are.
or b. your strategy was to coast for as much of the game as you could, and when it gets late, push for a mislynch gg

I'm thinking it's 1. MBF's posting has been protown, and a lot better than previous days.

unvote MBF

I find IS and Batt's cases compelling enough to add another vote to vollkan.

vote vollkan

[Fishythefish]

unvote, vote: volkan

Because he's scum.

[Battousai]

That's lynch

[mykonian]

votecount

Vollkan (4): Internet Stranger, Battousai, Untrod Tripod, Fishythefish
mikeburnfire (1): Parama
Internet Stranger (1): mikeburnfire

not voting (1): Vollkan

with 4 players, that was a lynch




It was late that they when the town went again to the center of the town. They forced vollkan to lie down next to Ythill.

"but guys", Vollkan said: "this is not the way we do this. We always strung up people. What are you doing?"
"you are special", answered Battousai.
"You too, Fishy?", Vollkan asked. Fishy looked away.
Internet Stranger was suddenly standing over vollkan, put a gun to his head, and pulled the trigger. Parama looked away as he could take the sight of vollkans death. Fishy sunk on his knee's while battousai laughed nervously.
"Why this way?", fishy mumbled. He looked up to stare into Internet Strangers face. "I assume we can't just leave anymore. So what happens now?"

Internet Stranger didn't answer. He just shot with deadly accuracy.

Scum won, Vollkan was a vanilla townie

[Battousai]

son of a bitch

[Untrod Tripod]

...I don't know how that happened.

but.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

go scum

[Internet Stranger]

Fishy, why didnt we quicklynch MBF when we had the chance? Why did you make me drag it out for so long?

[Fishythefish]

For my part, I was worried that Parama was still online and might react faster than you. It was only 20 minutes after he voted. I couldn't have justified an mbf vote from my "don't vote" and "IS is scum" positions, so it would have outed me and pointed heavily to you and UT if I'd cast it and he'd unvoted.

[Internet Stranger]

Ok, I see your point. I didnt check Parama's time. All I saw was that we were posting minutes apart. Im suprised that no one said anything about this post #757:

Who should I vote for then, Fishy? MBF? I got me the Vollkan scum pegged right there.

[Parama]

For my part, I was worried that Parama was still online and might react faster than you. It was only 20 minutes after he voted. I couldn't have justified an mbf vote from my "don't vote" and "IS is scum" positions, so it would have outed me and pointed heavily to you and UT if I'd cast it and he'd unvoted.

^scum I pinned on D1

though my only town read was scum, boo
vollkan was still the worst lynch

[mikeburnfire]

Ok, I see your point. I didnt check Parama's time. All I saw was that we were posting minutes apart. Im suprised that no one said anything about this post #757:

Who should I vote for then, Fishy? MBF? I got me the Vollkan scum pegged right there.

You were too busy saying other obviously scum things. Too bad nobody listened to me. I'm a bit surprised Fishy was the last scum, but I'm also a little surprised I was

so very right

about Vollkan, Stranger, and Tripod. Parama's probably got to feel a bit foolish for calling him definite town. Also, every mafia was on the Town Roleblocker's lynch. Suddenly my words ring true, yes?

[mikeburnfire]

Hopefully we've all learned a powerful lesson from this game:
Just because scum can lynch in LyLo doesn't mean that definitely will take that opportunity, so the whole "He must be scum because he hasn't been quicklynched yet" argument will die and never be heard of again.

Congrats to scum for their perfect win. Stranger did a great job of throwing out enough bullshit to confuse the town, but Fishy was the most subtle and probably would have won the game for scum had it gotten down to 2v1.

[Internet Stranger]

Thanks MBF. I was becoming rather fond of the quicklynch argument though. Shame that you want it to die.

[mykonian]

Yeah, Fishy was clearly the man of the match. Parama had a gut-feeling on him. Tbh, before this day, I wouldn't have known where to catch Fishy if I had been in the town. And that is while knowing that he was scum.

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah, Fishy was clearly the man of the match. Parama had a gut-feeling on him. Tbh, before this day, I wouldn't have known where to catch Fishy if I had been in the town. And that is while knowing that he was scum.

IMO, it's always suspicious when someone calls a low-impact player (like I was being) obvscum on D1. I just got out of a game as scum where my scumbud spent the entire game bussing me (like Fishy was doing to me), so that would have pinged my scumdar had I seen it from the outside. That weak bit of reasoning is absolutely the only thing I would have been able to pull on Fishy had I been town. Go go gadget Fishy.

[Parama]

My gut is pro.
This is why vollkan's playstyle pisses me off. No offense.

[Internet Stranger]

Parama must absolutely love mine!

[Parama]

Rhetorical fluff is bad too.

[Untrod Tripod]

My gut is pro.
This is why vollkan's playstyle pisses me off. No offense.

No, UT is town. Pretty obvious town in fact.

[Parama]

In a Parama-UT-vollkan endgame I would've figured it out pretty quick considering the rest of the flipped scum.
OFC Fishy would've been alive in any 3p LyLo scenario, so

[Ythill]

Why the hell didn't you people lynch IS? He was soooooo obv.

I mean, I guess we had this loss coming if Fishy and UT were the other two scum but... not lynching IS... really? Really???

Sigh.

GG scum.