Gay Dance! [Donezo]

[Ausuka]

Oh God this was an awful idea

[Ausuka]

Mafia only gets

one nightkill

and it's probably going to be on the IC. We only need to locktown 3 more people to win considering some restrictions

Who's good at townspewing?

i want to surface level townread this

[Ausuka]

Mafia only gets

one nightkill

and it's probably going to be on the IC. We only need to locktown 3 more people to win considering some restrictions

Who's good at townspewing?

We just need two fairly confident TvT pairings and we already have very good odds of making this a town win, assuming one is the IC pairing

If enough people can confidently town spew and the pairings are decided as such, the lynch order is basically set

i think this is a scum win if they just make a s/s pair at EOD though? Six townies seems like it'd work better.

[Ausuka]

What about bitmap makes you think he can spew town?

why did you ask this question? i don't really get what scum Chen's motive would be to pretend bitmap can spew town when he can't?

[Ausuka]

pose pro: ausuka

what does this mean?

[Ausuka]

I'm bad and don't really have good reads whee. I think I'll wait for everyone to turn up before I try and get like coherent reads. I mean I won't be tryharding in any case but.

Fb, gif, gamma, ank, pie, chennis seem somewhat towny, then there's obviously cheeky and me. I wouldn't like bet the game on this yet like people are doing though.

Bitmap and golden Rob seem scummiest so far but considering goldenrob's entrance I doubt that's right

if croag townspews at least a little I want to dance with her.

[Ausuka]

I feel like pairing the IC with a towny person is a good idea? I was under the impression our best wincon here is to locktown 6 people with 3 pairs but if the IC goes with someone scummy and they're left alive you can't locktown that pair meaning you have to locktown a pair without the IC in it which is suboptimal. Does that make sense? probably not

I agree vecna is town and withdraw my gamma tr, wow I'm such a sheep today

Pedit: no

[Ausuka]

I think that still means he wants to dance with towny people just one that scum wants to keep alive?

I also don't really think grob is scum anymore and I think I'd be ok with leaving them to endgame although I think I'm past the point where my opinion really matters actually

[Ausuka]

Also last time I saw Oka I think he was kind of a lynchbait.
But I don't remember the last time I played with him.

Ok that makes sense.

[Ausuka]

Me - pie
Chenni - Cheeky

Shiro
Croag
Ausuka
Vecna
Bingle

Someone out of those 5 is gonna have to die and idk who that should be yet.

I mean all of me, shiro, bingle and croag probably die before endgame anyway.

I guess the move here is to let vecna choose his partner and the rest of us sort something out after that.

[Ausuka]

A town ausuka should live to endgame

I'm not saying I want to die just that I don't think I'll survive unless like consensus reads are exactly right and we lynch all the scum first somehow. Same goes for everyone else who hasn't been able to post much today.

[Ausuka]

PSA: If you think that pre-game is fast, first dance and second dance get exponentially faster so if you're town you need to try to play up to speed. We actually don't have a ton of time once first dance starts.

With that being said, Ausuka hasn't posted much and none of it is AI for me.

I feel like with 40 pages in 18 hours, playing up to speed is easier said than done for a lot of people.

I'll try to townspews but no promises

[Ausuka]

Ausuka who do you want to pair with

shiro tbh

[Ausuka]

For what it's worth I think chenn being overdefensive isn't scummy and I like him for town although since he's being paired with the IC that read probably doesn't matter anymore.

To clarify for my last post I'll take whichever of bingle or shiro that Vecna doesn't, if they take me that is. I like croag for scum over those two.

[Ausuka]

Ausuka, would you do me the honor of escorting me to the dance?

Little as it may be, Ausuka is constantly honesty-posting and I actually really think the slot is town

I accept

Wasn't expecting this but this is cool

[Ausuka]

They're kinda gay my guy

most certainly not mutually exclusive

[Ausuka]

Actually now that I think about it they're kind of as straight as you can get in this game

[Ausuka]

For what it's worth I think chenn being overdefensive isn't scummy and I like him for town although since he's being paired with the IC that read probably doesn't matter anymore.

To clarify for my last post I'll take whichever of bingle or shiro that Vecna doesn't, if they take me that is. I like croag for scum over those two.

whats wrong with croag

they managed to read through the whole thread but don't seem to want to give reads or do anything for whatever reason whereas shiro just seems relaxed and bingle seems busy. they also just seem a little fake from what I've seen so far and basically all my reads are gut/tone based so.

[Ausuka]

croag has posted more game related content than bingle tho

if this is to me which it seems to be; you're kinda correct but that doesn't mean anything to me? bingle hasn't really been here. croag read through the entire thread and only posted about wanting a girlfriend.

[Ausuka]

are u guys really debating two posters with less than 5 posts

yes

[Ausuka]

Shiro has done more than bit and cro and like, I don't think their content is bad?

[Ausuka]

arent dance games usually fast

and gay dance games should be faster because every pairing removes 2 mates from the same pool

There's fast and then there's people who make like 20 posts in less than a day being called lurkers

[Ausuka]

arent dance games usually fast

and gay dance games should be faster because every pairing removes 2 mates from the same pool

There's fast and then there's people who make like 20 posts in less than a day being called lurkers

it's not hard to do better than that ausuka

Of course the guy with like 150 posts would think that

[Ausuka]

It saddens me that I will probably be left out

Also Gif Ruuuude >:U

I don't think anyone wants you gone rn?

Pedit: Ikr this heatwave is really intense.

[Ausuka]

Guys keep it sfw we have a -1 year old here

piehana? cheneeky? vecnuka? firoka?

[Ausuka]

the best way to not get mislynched as town is to not flail and to scumhunt. you are flailing right now.

Chenn is town, I feel like pie is too, probably ank?

[Ausuka]

I uh unironically wouldn't mind leaving Fire and Oka to endgame rn

[Ausuka]

I uh unironically wouldn't mind leaving Fire and Oka to endgame rn

Any particular reason you townread fire

Shiro says he's 100% town and assuming Shiro doesn't flip scum I wanna trust that read cos I get the impression shiro knows fire really well.

[Ausuka]

I'm not planning to operate of a set lynch order, rather I'd look at flips ) associations and also what other people want at the time. I'd also look at whatever new posts I have a chance to parse. I'm not sure how good of an idea it is to decide everything rn before anyone has flipped.

But if I have to decide now something like Gamari, Gifmap, Sakunyan and Ankster would be my personal preference? The last two I'd be lynching for Sakura and gr specifically. I think firoka and chenngle are probably towny pairs. Now that I think about it leaving Fire and Chen to endgame may cause some issues.

[Ausuka]

Anka + GRob
Chenn + Bingle

i'd probably go with this

[Ausuka]

ausuka what is your read on vecna

town

[Ausuka]

why

because he feels town

[Ausuka]

I guess I liked him pushing you as town if you need something else

[Ausuka]

Dark alleyways.

[Ausuka]

Actually now that I think Sakura is town it seems like leaving pie/Sakura and Chen/bingle and Chen leaves if the game doesn't end will win the game?

[Ausuka]

That's popular enough to work right?

[Ausuka]

I think we're collectively inspiring nobody to replace in

70 pages in less than 2 days does that yes.

I've also found recently less people are willing to replace in, however that experience is mostly from the newbie queue so ig it could not apply.

[Ausuka]

if you replace in and ask me to I will write a poem about how you are cool

[Ausuka]

I've seen Ausuka's scum game twice (albeit once as the backup mod) and I've seen evidence of that both times

I mean in both of the games you're referring to multiple people were able to catch me. I only won the md game because fl replaced in and the other game you're referring to was literally a perfect town win. Idk about you but I most other people don't view my scum play as genuine.

If Nimueh obvtowns the pair should go close to endgame but not like literally endgame imo. I don't have a read there so far.

[Ausuka]

I'm going to laugh if that's randomized.

[Ausuka]

I feel like Ank is really town here?

in other news I'm beginning to run out of scum candidates

[Ausuka]

They're both kind of nulltownish? Considering how many people seem just town in this game I wouldn't be opposed to killing that slot later but I don't think it'd be my d1 priority

how would you feel about killing Gifmap?

[Ausuka]

Ok then what pair do you want to lynch? Nimueh seems towny enough to keep the gamma/nim pair alive for now, and other than them idk who we go for.

[Ausuka]

Like, I don't get the progression of "GiF/Bitmap endgame" vs "GiF/Bitmap in our D1 lynch pool." They haven't been playing much differently. Has it been because more people have been towning it up?

I never wanted them at endgame and don't really understand the townreads on bitmap specifically.

[Ausuka]

It was

{Chennis Bingle Croag}.

Ausuka if you're scum what would be your master plan?

Set up some associations with townies and try to pair up with a somewhat useful player before I get lynched?

[Ausuka]

Idk why I quoted that chennis thing please ignore.

[Ausuka]

Which townies in particular

Uhh idk. I guess it would depend on who my buddies were in this case.

[Ausuka]

Ok in that case my path to endgame is Chenn/bingle. So I'd probably kill pie/Sakura or something, tie myself to players like oka or you or shiro so it's less likely for you guys to make it to endgame and more likely my buddies would make it there.

[Ausuka]

Guyss if I was scum I probably don't push for Croag to die here that would be unhelpful

This is assuming the push is for me and not vecna who seems pretty towny and also gif has implied that so sorry if I'm wrong

[Ausuka]

ur one of the three on his scumlist

u have bad association with him through 1101, 1102

u keep on trying to self-meta and justify that ur town by tryharding

Why is grob town again

[Ausuka]

You had no chance of saving croag though.

??? What do you mean? I explicitly said I would never pair with croag before I thought vecna would agree to pair with me, because I thought thread consensus was that I was scum, and this was BEFORE anyone else scumread him. I then went on to push that she would be left out of the dance. Do I play like that as scum who isn't wincon? No.

[Ausuka]

Because Ankamius increases the win rate by a lot

Why? Like anyone willing to sacrifice Vecna to kill me, should also be willing to sacrifice Ank to kill GRob.

Pedit: Bingle and Shiro also hadn't done anything?

[Ausuka]

of course I've rolled scum before

I don't expect I can do anything about this, all scum are in gif Rob and bitmap or MAYBE bit or shiro. Bye

[Ausuka]

I found the interactions at the end of the day between chennis, bingle, and croag to be rather odd. I never understood the "bingle was more town than croag" when bingle was just as lurky as croag.

Anywho, time to kick and scream till I get my lynch just like in Starry Night.

VOTE: pienyan-Sakura Hana

VOTE: gif/bitmap
do this tomorrow.

[Ausuka]

Once upon a time, there was a player named Chennisden, Chennisden thought that Sakura and GIF were town, he explained it was because of their tone

narrating like that?
xD

Pedit: if you're willing to do it today then yes, I don't particularly get the feel from the whole "lol aus is scum lol vecna is scum" that that's going to happen though

[Ausuka]

Oh then yeah do it then.

[Ausuka]

Once upon a time, there was a player named Chennisden, Chennisden thought that Sakura and GIF were town, he explained it was because of their tone

narrating like that?
xD

Pedit: if you're willing to do it today then yes, I don't particularly get the feel from the whole "lol aus is scum lol vecna is scum" that that's going to happen though

Why is vecna town

Unsure he defends me as scum before anyone else was willing to when targets were already running short also he feels town. I'm not going to go through his entire ISO on mobile and make a Towncase if that's what you're asking.

[Ausuka]

do you think if I make some exaggerated town case on vecna everyone is going to be like "wow Ausuka you're so town let's all listen to your reads"

There's no way our slot makes it to endgame, I came in fighting the lynch because I was tired and following instinct which is don't die

[Ausuka]

do you think if I make some exaggerated town case on vecna everyone is going to be like "wow Ausuka you're so town let's all listen to your reads"

Why does it have to be exaggerated?

Because I gave my real thoughts and they will never convince anyone.

I'm not making cases this game. It's way too fast. I wasn't even going to play mafia when I signed up but then everyone else wanted to play mafia and I felt bad.

[Ausuka]

Most of my reads are based on feelings and vec feels town
I think his townreads on oka and me going against the grain were Towny. Ank's case was that he isn't sorting, here are randomly picked quotes from his ISO that are sorting.

so you aren't that passionate about finding good pairings? you said gif was a tr and I don't see you towrneading bitmap

Really dont get the scumreads here. Such honest crusading

I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.I'm town.

I believe this slot

Okas posting about strategy is the scummiest out of everybodys

He's not SAYING anything, just spouting platitudes to look like he's fitting in

GIF is a gut read, that's always how I read him

Okas is my hardest townread of like everyone. That dude in the freezer might be up there, but he has that high volume of charisma to fake that shit.

Discussion material. Excellent

Actually, what needs to happen here is pretty clear-cut. Pienyan seems like the slot that is in a good need of sorting, but that will provide for a damn power-partner if that sorting can happen properly.

And the slot actually talks, which is a win.

Pienyan, wanna dance?

Ausuka, would you do me the honor of escorting me to the dance?

Little as it may be, Ausuka is constantly honesty-posting and I actually really think the slot is town

also my reads are pretty in line with Pienyan.

Is anyone still actively scumreading GE here though? As in recently?

His posting here seems quite ok'ish to me.

[Ausuka]

I'm town. I think bitmap and gif contains at least 1 scum and that's scum's endgame pair. bye.

Why would vecna flip scum idgi

[Ausuka]

Fire oka and Chenn bingle is the best endgame proposed imo.

[Ausuka]

Fire oka and Chenn bingle is the best endgame proposed imo.

Why not Piekura

It's pretty much a guaranteed town win

Idk Chen "pie never makes it to endgame" nisden why not?

Piekura is good if people decide to do it, I saw consensus against it.

[Ausuka]

She doesn't make it to endgame btw unless we completely wreck all the scum first

We should leave pie to endgame or we shouldn't? Not really getting your message here dude.

[Ausuka]

I'm sad Vecna left because now I don't get the chance to tell you guys you're the first town to mislynch me in over a year.

[Ausuka]

I think I'd rather you leave then Sakura??

[Ausuka]

If Bingle wins it'd be funny, I'd be okay with that outcome tbh.

[Ausuka]

If Bingle is scum and survives to endgame Ali should rename this thread 'Bingle wins by doing absolutely nothing'.

[Ausuka]

If cheeky and Shiro survive it's optimal for them to be the second last pair btw

[Ausuka]

it's ok we're just going to leave chenn and bingle to endgame this game is easy

[Ausuka]

We're just all town lol?

[Ausuka]

what happens if i flip scum

will people be amazed

I'll briefly wonder why you decided to put so much effort into twilight and then move on.

Pedit: I don't think everyone who has a wrong opinion in mafia is a moron? like everyone has bad games. I think you're town though if it matters?

[Ausuka]

what happens if i flip scum

will people be amazed

while that would be cool, I don't think its likely.

maybe ausuka. not you.

Yeah I'm scum with bingle actually

[Ausuka]

Let's say your team is you/croag/bingle.

Ok in that case my path to endgame is Chenn/bingle. So I'd probably kill pie/Sakura or something, tie myself to players like oka or you or shiro so it's less likely for you guys to make it to endgame and more likely my buddies would make it there.

I basically just described my play here lol.

[Ausuka]

Nooo kill Gifmap

[Ausuka]

At least Ank thinks I'm unreadable

[Ausuka]

At least Ank thinks I'm unreadable

Did you click that link? It’s from Sky’s normal large. Unfortunately I’m too late, sorry.:/

Yeah that's my Iso from sky's game. I think I was pretty towny here but idk apparently people don't think so.

Pedit: Considering like 50% of players can instantly read me off tone can't you just like listen to them

Like if you just listened to skitter last game it would've been a lot easier

[Ausuka]

it's actually croag/Ausuka/bingle

[Ausuka]

Vecna is literally right about to flip I don't understand the point of this argument.

[Ausuka]

~reads~

It strikes me that no real scumreads are given here btw

He left the dance dude.

[Ausuka]

but how can bingle win by doing nothing if we make him do something

[Ausuka]

GE you should probs give up on responding to the thread

You're 500 posts behind

HOW MANY OF YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES HAVE ALREADY LEFT

2

[Ausuka]

GE you should probs give up on responding to the thread

You're 500 posts behind

HOW MANY OF YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES HAVE ALREADY LEFT

2

2

PAIRS

No two PEOPLE left don't you dare drag me into this

[Ausuka]

Let's leave Nimueh and gamma to endgame with Chennis and bingle

[Ausuka]

caring about mafia only leads to frustration and suffering

[Ausuka]

I'm the only normal one here.

What about scum Fitmap

i try a bit harder

[Ausuka]

HOLY FUCK I JUST REALIZED THAT ANK LEFT WHAT THE FUCKKKKK

When does this ever flip scum

I don't even understand how this is towny

[Ausuka]

Oh lol

Uhh don't kill me please

[Ausuka]

I thought I would have dead pt access and have spoilers but instead I have to play the mafia game??

[Ausuka]

VOTE: bitmap

[Ausuka]

Like compare Bitmap and Fire's reactions. I feel like town would definitely be more inclined to panic, while scum would just remain calm, regardless of flips, because for town that sequence of events totally changes the game and throws it into chaos while scum either know a lot of town are dying and their win on just got a hell of a lot closer or one of their buddies are flipping and they need to avoid tying themselves at all costs

do you think there's, like, any world in which fb panics from events in a mafia game? I haven't got that impression from him

I also think a basic "wow wtf" seems pretty easy for scum to fake especially since bitmap just talked about how he's good at faking emotions as scum?

[Ausuka]

gg, thanks for modding Ali and congrats scum. Sorry for being a stupid idiot.

[Ausuka]

Technically vecna left so I still haven't been mislynched! ;P

[Ausuka]

My reads basically weren't based on logic full stop, lol. This game was too fast for that, I can't keep up with it.

I think I know why Nim thinks I townread her and if so it's wrong I just don't know how to deal with people faking strong negative emotions.

[Ausuka]

just policy lynch woe is me

The problem I see with this is, what if someone's genuinely upset? If you just ignore them and lynch them, won't that just make them feel even worse? Idk, I'm quitting mafia so I guess for me it doesn't matter.