Gay Dance! [Donezo]

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:15 am

gif/sakura/fire/chenn are obvtown

it's pretty obvious now that grob and vecna are both town

ausuka could be scum, dunno
idk about pienyan, I had a lot of issues with her general approach this game that I was going to go into in my PT but never got around to

oka and bingle are townreads that I'm pretty confident in but have SOME odds of being wrong

who am I missing

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:16 am

In post 3068, pienyan wrote:
In post 3063, Ankamius wrote:I was legitimately very annoyed when you rallied so hard against lynching Vecna and then immediately said "MAYBE I WANT THEM DEAD ANYWAY" when I backed off
You know the whole point was to let them actually come in and start being town? Which Vecna at least was doing, now we just have to wait and see for Ausuka.

I wanted that pairing lynched because it was the single highest information lynch for me

my case on Vecna was my attempt to make it actually happen

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:17 am

and yes I literally did mention that at least 3 times

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:17 am

and we even had an entire engagement about it

I don't see "this might be town later" and think "it's town for now", I see that as "it's not town until it is"

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:18 am

In post 3076, Bitmap wrote:Ank, I still don't understand why you left the dance...

partially because this game is really getting under my skin
partially to put my money where my mouth is about how to handle the game
partially because I see the game not being handled properly if there is scum in the designated endgame teams the way it's going

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:20 am

In post 3078, pienyan wrote:
In post 3070, Ankamius wrote:idk about pienyan, I had a lot of issues with her general approach this game that I was going to go into in my PT but never got around to
Let me guess, it's "she's not going full blind aggro mode and hard pushing every single one of her reads 100%" what a stupid way to try and read me.

a lot of it is your insistence that you reach the endgame

but it really stood out to me when you pushed literally all the gentlemen for PoE when you had just got done arguing with me about how something that has easy scum motivation is town until it isn't, which also looks weird against your insistence that you reach the endgame

there was another aspect of that I found bizarre too but idr it offhand

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:21 am

I wasn't indignant until you went back on lynching the pair IMMEDIATELY after I backed off

I literally thought you were scum protecting your partner before then

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:24 am

do you legitimately find it shocking that I would think you're scum protecting your partner when you two are literally half my poe?

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:26 am

shiro needs to be properly sorted at some point

I don't think he can be atm

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:29 am

I really doubt I was ever going to be the intermission kill

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:29 am

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:31 am

In post 3120, Ausuka wrote:Fire oka and Chenn bingle is the best endgame proposed imo.

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:34 am

btw last note

bitmap specifically saying he respects my reads is weird

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:36 am

I think a lot of the reason this game has gotten on my nerves over starry night is because just about every pairing felt like it was outright forced

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:38 am

I don't think you understand as well as the gentlemen side does shiro

gif/bitmap pairing immediately put a ton of pressure on me to find a pairing just about immediately

that doesn't make a healthy gamestate in a setup like this

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:39 am

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeah I think I'm going to talk to alisae about it

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:40 am

In post 3148, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 3146, Ankamius wrote:gif/bitmap pairing immediately put a ton of pressure on every remaining gentlemen to find a pairing just about immediately
ftfy

semantics but yes

that made each pairing very low info

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:40 am

I switched to gentleman to pair with rc

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:41 am

I actually didn't even realize who kirari was until they switched right after me

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:42 am

In post 3159, Ausuka wrote:If Bingle is scum and survives to endgame Ali should rename this thread 'Bingle wins by doing absolutely nothing'.

ngl this would be a hilarious way for the game to end

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:42 am

yeah like you'd ever agree to that

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:43 am

In post 3167, Shiro wrote:
In post 3165, Ankamius wrote:yeah like you'd ever agree to that
He agreed with me in starry

I don't think you know just how much firebringer likes to troll me

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:47 am

yeah NOW you tell me fire

wtf

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:47 am

that entire issue with kirari would never have happened if we had paired

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:11 am

I could prob read you in endgame but I've never been in endgame with you so shrug

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:13 am

Ausuka I think you're probably one of those players I can't parse until a point where I'm pretty certain town and scum would be handling the game far differently

And that's usually sometime in late-midgame

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:15 am

Hf in second dance Nimueh

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:16 am

In post 3247, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3239, Nimueh wrote:
In post 3234, Ausuka wrote:At least Ank thinks I'm unreadable :(
Did you click that link? It’s from Sky’s normal large. Unfortunately I’m too late, sorry.:/
Yeah that's my Iso from sky's game. I think I was pretty towny here but idk apparently people don't think so.

Pedit: Considering like 50% of players can instantly read me off tone can't you just like listen to them

Like if you just listened to skitter last game it would've been a lot easier

I did that for creature

And then I got burned every game creature was in, so I don't follow that anymore

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:17 am

In post 3249, chennisden wrote:I no longer blame Ank for leaving

I'm mad but I don't blame her

sorry

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:18 am

I originally thought that worst case scenario I'd be able to parse out the game second dance, but I really really doubt I'd have the sway I did in starry night

And apparently my pairing was a potential NK target for some reason anyways so

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:21 am

How do I keep your sanity up when I can't even keep mine up

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:23 am

Can you stop fire

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:25 am

stop.

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:28 am

you know chenn

I actually feel a lot more free now

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:34 am

In post 3273, chennisden wrote:because this game might as well be over?

and you don't have to be dealing with it

nah

one less ego in endgame is better for everyone and if the game really is as easy as it looks, then I get the cred for it without having to deal with the other egos

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:35 am

it really wasn't smart of me to join up in the first place, it's about time I make good on my retirement

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:46 am

Vecna scum would make me happy

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:48 am

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:49 am

You got me bitmap I was scum

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:50 am

You get all of them bitmap

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:53 am

No I still don't understand what scumteam kills my pairing

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:56 am

Not 100% impossible since the discussion suddenly got far more productive after I left

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:12 am

That wasn't the biggest factor sakura

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:13 am

The game was always going to devolve into this because 2/3 of the game wants their own pairing either in the final 2 pairings or the very last one entirely

That is a recipe for a really toxic game and I think me deciding to leave legitimately snapped people out of that mindset

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:24 am

Starry Night wasn't like that and that game really showed that dance games can be fun when this doesn't happen tbh

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:36 am

Dunno

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:42 am

Do you mean nim

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:44 am

Ftr Bingle, you're taking my spot this game

Gl

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:46 am

My reads weren't especially good in that game and there isn't really any other game we've played in that I had much better

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:49 am

Tough shit deal with it

You're the one person here that I think can keep everybody on track up through the rest of the game so you're stuck with the role now

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:01 am

In post 3358, Bingle wrote:I hope we get shot tonight, that’ll teach you.

I hope not for the sanity of everyone else tbh

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:05 am

In post 3374, Bitmap wrote:
In post 3373, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3358, Bingle wrote:I hope we get shot tonight, that’ll teach you.
I hope not for the sanity of everyone else tbh
wHaT iF i GeT sHoT?????

Then you are resolved and simultaneously get to wash your hands of this game too

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:06 am

Go for it

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:08 am

that is such a weird post out of context

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:14 am

Nimueh I wasn't being entirely serious

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:17 am

That's okay Bingle is taking my spot

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:20 am

I'm not even playing the game anymore Nimueh

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:32 am

Lmao

Someone has to do it why not you

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:35 am

Do you have what it takes to keep everybody on track and correctly parse the game in late game bitmap

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:36 am

unknown

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:37 am

did you win

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:38 am

then yes

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:40 am

12 her overall approach was very different
34 it's a known difference between her as town and scum
5 her reads hadn't changed, her Vecna read doesn't count since she didn't commit to anything on it

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:51 am

Lol GE is town

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:52 am

It legitimately might be a good idea to off another pair before nimerald

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:54 am

What are the pairs again

Ankamius · Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:55 am

I'd look at oka actually, that's a slot I think has a decently high likelihood of snowing me this game