Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps


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Post Post #10170 (isolation #400) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 am

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How did you catch elsa, pine?
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Post Post #10174 (isolation #401) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:21 am

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Can we talk normally during massclaim?
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Post Post #10176 (isolation #402) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:23 am

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You forgot firepupper in the second list ali
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Post Post #10177 (isolation #403) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:24 am

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Ninja’d
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Post Post #10180 (isolation #404) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:26 am

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Chill, I had like 4 hours sleep too and then was wrangling French teenagers all day
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Post Post #10182 (isolation #405) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:27 am

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Ty ali

Still kinda shook that I’m your third strongest SR thh
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Post Post #10185 (isolation #406) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:29 am

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I mean my reads have been fucking abysmal this game but it doesn’t make me scum
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Post Post #10186 (isolation #407) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:30 am

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Why does scum me push at elsa/greyICE slot when pine has already figured out that that’s prob a mason!slot?
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Post Post #10188 (isolation #408) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:39 am

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Name two
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Post Post #10189 (isolation #409) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:39 am

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I’m gonna give you so much shit if mislynch me for the loss ali, unless the scumteam has exactly all 3 of dann, ducky, and PB in it
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Post Post #10190 (isolation #410) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:40 am

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Have I played a p atrocious game? Yes. Am I still p much obv!town? Also emphatically yes.
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Post Post #10197 (isolation #411) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:05 am

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In post 10192, Alisae wrote:Who do scumread my guy?
I actually think your order is p good apart from me and I think you have kats way too high
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Post Post #10198 (isolation #412) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:05 am

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In post 10196, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 10189, Menalque wrote:I’m gonna give you so much shit if mislynch me for the loss ali, unless the scumteam has exactly all 3 of dann, ducky, and PB in it
How many times have you even played with Ali before?
This is my first time
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Post Post #10201 (isolation #413) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:15 am

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Do you think I’m scum SS?
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Post Post #10202 (isolation #414) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:16 am

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I mean I get it if you have doubts but are you actually not TRing me?
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Post Post #10203 (isolation #415) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:17 am

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Idk I just feel like I’m pretty obviously town to anyone paying attention to me and so even if ali doesn’t have meta with me I’d still expect em to TR me
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Post Post #10204 (isolation #416) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:17 am

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If you don’t think I’m town I guess it’s fairer as I’m not as obv towny as I thought
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Post Post #10211 (isolation #417) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:52 am

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In post 10199, Pine wrote:
In post 10170, Menalque wrote:How did you catch elsa, pine?
We identified GreyICE as a Mason before D1 was over, and it was never disproven. GI wasn’t a threat, but Elsa introduces too much chaos into a carefully curated ecosystem and had to go.

I still haven’t nailed down who the other one is, but my PoE has it down to two people. My minions have been arguing over it.
Is it me

Am I one of them
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Post Post #10212 (isolation #418) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:53 am

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In post 10210, Pine wrote:
In post 10206, Something_Smart wrote:I don't know. This game is well-designed to discourage caring, between the utter lack of information we get both from fruits and having no investigative roles, to the absurdly long wait from hammer until subsequent day start, to the fruit effects that reduce agency and accountability.
The fruit are actually pretty much designed to be neutral. The benefits gained are roughly equivalent to the drawbacks.

It’s not my fault you’re using them so recklessly.
Idk man, the fact that the vig fruit doesn’t notify until after you shoot seems p +scum
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Post Post #10213 (isolation #419) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:54 am

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What was the side effect for JK?
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Post Post #10214 (isolation #420) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 10205, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 10201, Menalque wrote:Do you think I’m scum SS?
I think you're being manipulative regardless of your alignment. I hope you're scum because then at least you have an excuse.
Yeah, I probably am a bit but equally if that’s what it takes to not be mislynched when that leads to a loss I think it’s justified

I don’t want ali to feel like shit but I do want em to realise that e’s wrong about me

If that requires a certain amount of manipulation I’m okay with it

Idk I’m also really fucking tired so maybe I’ll feel worse about it when I wake up tomorrow
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Post Post #10351 (isolation #421) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:48 am

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In post 10349, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 10345, Alisae wrote:Slugmanuts
In post 10346, Alisae wrote:Hah gottem
In post 10347, Alisae wrote:Alright idc if I lose this game anymore
Ngl I wouldn't care losing if I got Pine as dirty as you did right now, good job
Ditto
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Post Post #10355 (isolation #422) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:57 am

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Kinda feel like 10351 deserves more credit
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Post Post #10359 (isolation #423) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:01 am

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In post 10358, Alisae wrote:
In post 10355, Menalque wrote:Kinda feel like 10351 deserves more credit
ditto
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Post Post #10369 (isolation #424) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:12 am

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I am loyal retainer/vt
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Post Post #10370 (isolation #425) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:13 am

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Pine can I get an honourable mention for my assistance when you win for how bad my reads were and Ali deciding my play was bad enough to merit a vig shot?
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Post Post #10371 (isolation #426) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:14 am

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That will let me salvage some sort of dignity from this game
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Post Post #10381 (isolation #427) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:23 pm

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I've been towny ducky idk what you're looking at

I'm kinda more concerned about you tbh

I hate this game bc honestly I think you, dann and PB may just be scum and I've had my reads back to front
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Post Post #10382 (isolation #428) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:24 pm

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ftr I think the big problem I had this game is that there was never anyone I felt super comfortable TRing and so there was never the chance to really work with people

if that was scum doing (which I assume it was) then creating disharmony in the town was v well done
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Post Post #10390 (isolation #429) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:29 pm

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tbh if we do this again and I'm invited again I actually do think a variation on the geriatric ruleset would be a good idea
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Post Post #10391 (isolation #430) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:30 pm

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I am the new drunk pops

this is drunk mena

I'm here to fill a void
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Post Post #10392 (isolation #431) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:31 pm

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ducky did you just label yourself as too cute
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Post Post #10393 (isolation #432) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:32 pm

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maybe you are town and I'm just struggling this much with feeling even vaguely confident TRing you because it's our first game together
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Post Post #10396 (isolation #433) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 10394, the worst wrote:
In post 10392, Menalque wrote:ducky did you just label yourself as too cute
yes
are you gonna argue mister?
who could do that xoxo
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Post Post #10397 (isolation #434) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 10395, the worst wrote:Mena you need to claim iirc
youuuuuu haven't been reading my posts ducky

I'm not feeling loved
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Post Post #10401 (isolation #435) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:04 pm

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love me, PB
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Post Post #10402 (isolation #436) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:05 pm

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if you're scum I don't think I can deal
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Post Post #10404 (isolation #437) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:05 pm

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pls be town
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Post Post #10406 (isolation #438) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:06 pm

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shut up tree this is a threeway maybe fourway and I'm already paranoid that your nasty branches are getting involved when they shouldn't be
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Post Post #10407 (isolation #439) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:06 pm

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I'm still kinda annoyed you didn't recruit me tbh
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Post Post #10408 (isolation #440) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:06 pm

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I thought as I was specifically your invitee that maybe you would
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Post Post #10410 (isolation #441) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:18 pm

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In post 10409, Pine wrote:
In post 10406, Menalque wrote:shut up tree this is a threeway maybe fourway and I'm already paranoid that your nasty branches are getting involved when they shouldn't be
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so I see you're into the freaky Japanese stuff
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Post Post #10421 (isolation #442) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:27 am

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In post 10420, the worst wrote:I'm a good little vt who spent his night inside eating bread.
Bread is bad for you ducky, you gotta buy that special duckmix
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Post Post #10424 (isolation #443) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:30 am

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In post 10423, Alisae wrote:he prefers Wooperios
Those definitely lack the good nutrition that a young growing duck needs
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Post Post #10436 (isolation #444) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:15 am

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In post 10425, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 10401, Menalque wrote:love me, PB
In post 10402, Menalque wrote:if you're scum I don't think I can deal
In post 10404, Menalque wrote:pls be town
I didn't see this 'cause I was way too drunk yesterday. Were you drunk too? I think that's pretty romantic <3
I was! I cracked a bottle of wine and it was toooo goooood to have a reasonable amount of
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Post Post #10437 (isolation #445) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:16 am

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also I see you found the pirate thread otherwise I was gonna link you

pirates ftw
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Post Post #10440 (isolation #446) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 10438, Alisae wrote:
In post 10437, Menalque wrote:also I see you found the pirate thread otherwise I was gonna link you

pirates ftw
please don't link speakez threads publicly
thats not allowed
thanks, I'd forgotten this actually
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Post Post #10468 (isolation #447) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:40 pm

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In post 10457, the worst wrote:wanna just re-lynch lld for shits and giggles?
VOTE: lld
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Post Post #10478 (isolation #448) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:47 am

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Hey pine why didn’t u give me the vig fruit yesterday?

I would have shot titus or pops

Did you just figure I didn’t have as good bargaining materials in terms of stuff from ali as titus did?
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Post Post #10482 (isolation #449) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:06 am

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Can I ask for a vig fruit today ali
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Post Post #10814 (isolation #450) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 am

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I mean I think we are letting ali decide the lynch
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Post Post #10837 (isolation #451) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:00 am

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In post 10836, Alisae wrote:Does anyone actually want to play mafia or should I just go to bed?
*Raises hand*
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Post Post #10839 (isolation #452) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:04 am

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Tbh the only person I think is town who’s not modconf’d is PB
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Post Post #10840 (isolation #453) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:05 am

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I think krazy is scum tho
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Post Post #10850 (isolation #454) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:21 am

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I will try to go through everyone else in the playerlist and explain why I feel unsure about them ali — like the reasons I’m thinking they could be tow and the reasons why I’m thinking they’re scum

But like my reads were so far off with pops/titus that I’m kinda doubting myself now. Plus the fact that I let mastina get hammered because I thought that would give us a gamestate where everything would be a lot clearer and it’s just not
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Post Post #10854 (isolation #455) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:29 am

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I mean I will try but just fuck me

This game is not fun and there’s so much content still from everyone that the idea of trying to go through it all to get my head around the game in its entirety is just not a thing I’m willing to do

Sorry, I want to win but I don’t want to win badly enough to sort through almost 11,000 posts of content only to quite possibly be wrong or not listened to, and I think that’s an understandable position to have

But I’ll give you what I can, I’m just not saying I’m ISO diving anyone
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Post Post #10867 (isolation #456) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 10856, Something_Smart wrote:I feel a little better about Menalque given that I looked at a scumgame he just won and scumread him off of a single post.
Which one ooi? Also post flip or while it was ongoing?
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Post Post #10869 (isolation #457) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:54 am

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In post 10864, Pink Ball wrote:Do you (whoever wants to answer) think that Krazy/Dann is possible?
Possible but I don’t know

I do think krazy pushing the “it’s either dann or mena who ank hid behind” could be to either try and get me done or to give himself credit if dann was lynched first and flipped scum
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Post Post #10871 (isolation #458) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:56 am

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If we think there’s only 1 town in fire tw and ge I’d lean GE but I’m now getting flashbacks to pfup where he also kinda lurked out to a win
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Post Post #10872 (isolation #459) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 am

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In post 10870, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 10867, Menalque wrote:Which one ooi? Also post flip or while it was ongoing?
TL's game, it was after the game was over but I didn't know the flips.
Oh, I meant which post did you SR me off of
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Post Post #10880 (isolation #460) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 am

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In post 10876, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 10872, Menalque wrote:Oh, I meant which post did you SR me off of
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Oh lol, I guess you kinda had to be there

Ooi how do you think town!me would have reacted differently?
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Post Post #10886 (isolation #461) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:13 am

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Omfg ali don’t play with us like this
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Post Post #10887 (isolation #462) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:13 am

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I wanna see the magic trick!!!
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Post Post #10928 (isolation #463) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:25 am

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Why is everyone mason fishing? Tell me this cannot be just the entire scumteam mason fishing
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Post Post #10958 (isolation #464) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:40 am

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In post 10945, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 10939, Pine wrote:Ali sends Jingle a list of 8 names pregame. Then I draft. Jingle randomly selects 2 from the remaining list.
If this is true, Ali, what other players did you draft to be masons? Monty Hall makes them more likely scum.
That’s a good point actually
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Post Post #10965 (isolation #465) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 10956, Katsuki wrote:I thought Mastina was fakeclaiming the entire time because we already had a full doc, and GI had the same feelings with regards to mastina's play D1 and early D2.
Plus, I think the mastina lynch nets us two scum at least so (lynch worst, menal
).

It's kinda impossible keeping up with a game that's being spammed out, I wasn't entirely sure D3 who the scum was outside of wanting mastina dead so I didn't spew hard scumreads to you obviously since I was still trying to figure out the game state. I gave you the one solid read I had, which is that, chennis is town and that he's a mislynch.

The only thing I told you repeatedly is that chennis is a mislynch but you chose to not care anymore and go along with that lynch. You're the confirmed town leader, you're suppose to be the voice that drives the direction of the town. When even the scumteam is complaining about your posting volume, maybe you should think about that some.
Can you elaborate on this before you go if you didn’t leave your reasoning in the mason pt
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Post Post #10971 (isolation #466) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:50 am

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Okay did he explain it in the mason pt to you?
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Post Post #10980 (isolation #467) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:13 am

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In post 10973, Alisae wrote:
In post 10971, Menalque wrote:Okay did he explain it in the mason pt to you?
We thought your pushes were fake and your angles were weird as shit
Do you think pine would encourage/want me to do that

Or more accurately do you think it’s more of an explanation that makes sense that I did that after agreeing it with pine and the rest of the scumteam or that my pushes were just bad and based on my own reasons
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Post Post #10981 (isolation #468) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 10977, Dannflor wrote:Mena, half your solve died last night

What’s your new one
I don’t have one yet
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Post Post #11020 (isolation #469) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:27 am

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Ali who pushed mastina? Kats was one and krazy too, who were the others cause I don’t remember
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Post Post #11042 (isolation #470) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 11041, Wooper wrote:i thought you were hard softing that mariar was a mason so i was like..........mmm ok the world is fucked but she's like
scum!!
I was wondering this too but thought it was too obvious if even I was seeing it
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Post Post #12217 (isolation #471) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:05 pm

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Kinda bummed that there are two people who are literally not allowed to post here anymore who have been more recent posts than I do and yet I haven’t been prodded

I’m ready to vote cephr when we start voting
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Post Post #12218 (isolation #472) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:05 pm

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Also am I right in thinking this is no longer lylo?
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Post Post #12225 (isolation #473) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:07 pm

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Fucked if I know ali, like the fact that I haven’t been here in like 5 days and no one asked jingle to prod me makes me think I’m p superfluous

I think ceph is scum and I think Pb is town and other than that I don’t really have any ideas
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Post Post #12227 (isolation #474) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:09 pm

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If you think you’re gonna have doubts about me in lylo you may just wanna lynch me today as I think I’m gonna struggle to get back into this and so I’m always gonna be a target

Has maria done something to make her town other than the doctor claim?
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Post Post #12236 (isolation #475) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:13 pm

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Okay cool, well I’ll try to be around here a bit more but I’m not rereading the game at this point

So what’s up with maria?
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Post Post #12238 (isolation #476) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:13 pm

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bargain: informed
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Post Post #12249 (isolation #477) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:18 pm

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I mean I think Pb is town

Why do you have doubts there?

Also are you now just like a consensus tr or what?

@wooper
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Post Post #12265 (isolation #478) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 12257, Wooper wrote:
In post 12249, Menalque wrote:I mean I think Pb is town

Why do you have doubts there?

Also are you now just like a consensus tr or what?

@wooper
ali docced me last night and there was no kill
so i'm v likely the scum nk
or they no killed to mess with us but given they probably expected dunn to use the vig fruit & die last night i can't really see them doing this
Okay cool that makes sense
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Post Post #12266 (isolation #479) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:24 pm

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I have no idea how to read fb
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Post Post #12281 (isolation #480) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:35 pm

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I was leaning gamma town way earlier but when I was last here he was being lurky consistent with pfup

What makes you think he’s scum ali?
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Post Post #12297 (isolation #481) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:50 pm

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I mean I’m not an idiot ali
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Post Post #12300 (isolation #482) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 12288, Pine wrote:
In post 12238, Menalque wrote:
bargain: informed
Okay. I want your vote though. Fruit in twilight.
I mean you’ve done this like 1000 times already can we not do something more original
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Post Post #12301 (isolation #483) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:52 pm

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Maria why do you think that Pb is scum?
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Post Post #12306 (isolation #484) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 12303, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 12297, Menalque wrote:I mean I’m not an idiot ali
We all are, we play on mafia scum dot net after all.
Okay I’m not an idiot in that particular way is closer to what I was trying to say
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Post Post #12308 (isolation #485) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 12304, MariaR wrote:
In post 12301, Menalque wrote:Maria why do you think that Pb is scum?
Out of everyone in the poe I don't think pb is the 'one town' in it.
Yeah but like why

You’re just generally unsure about the whole thing or there are specific things about Pb that make you think it’s not him?
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Post Post #12312 (isolation #486) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 12300, Menalque wrote:
In post 12288, Pine wrote:
In post 12238, Menalque wrote:
bargain: informed
Okay. I want your vote though. Fruit in twilight.
I mean you’ve done this like 1000 times already
can we not do something more original
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Post Post #12314 (isolation #487) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:04 pm

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Why is Pb scummy wooper?
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Post Post #12320 (isolation #488) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:14 pm

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Can you read fb normally?
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Post Post #12323 (isolation #489) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:22 pm

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Okay so I guess don’t read him

How are you on ico generally?
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Post Post #12325 (isolation #490) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:31 pm

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Maybe do ico then?
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Post Post #12328 (isolation #491) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:33 pm

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I can maybe do that

Idk I’m very low on energy atm and that sounds like work

I’ll see about quoting tho, 1 sex
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Post Post #12329 (isolation #492) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:34 pm

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Yes but you’re scum ceph, so *shrug*
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Post Post #12332 (isolation #493) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 8811, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 8797, Menalque wrote:Because I got to that exact same possible scumteam in so now I know that you read that I’m kinda interested why you didn’t engage with me more around the time if it was also the way your analysis was going?

Or all your analysis was done tonight?

Also I’m kinda paranoid bc I think you’re town but I think you would definitely be the one on the scumteam given the job of pocketing me if you were scum so do you see why it’s pinging me a little that you have exactly the same scum group as me?
I started doing the analysis when I said I would take this game as hostage, like 5 hours ago.

I read that post of yours while pooping in the office lol. It is the same group huh. Do you think scum!me would think "I'll give this whole vote progression bullshit and make it coincide with Mena's paranoia group so Mena will townread me", when I think you're already townreading me, you gave two teams and I focused on the one that you weren't leaning as the scum team, or rather it is just town me doing my thing and coming to a conclusion not related with your post? I mean, your worries should be focused on, instead of trying to pocket you, I'm trying to derail you from the first group to the second one because you were right and you got my partners, but pocketing you? No, not the case, not this time.
So I can’t remember really and brain is starting to shut down but I think this was a lot of it
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Post Post #12333 (isolation #494) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:43 pm

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I agree the fucked up watch report was prob on balance towny
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Post Post #12334 (isolation #495) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:43 pm

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Does anyone with more energy than I have wanna go find the VC for when I built that PP wagon
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Post Post #12336 (isolation #496) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:48 pm

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Do you TR maria SS?
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Post Post #12338 (isolation #497) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:52 pm

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Hmm
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Post Post #12339 (isolation #498) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:53 pm

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I’d need to reread the bit where she was sticking with mastina throughout my attempt to get PP through, but like I think that some of the resistance there came from scum (like I think krazy scum fits with that too)
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Post Post #12340 (isolation #499) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:54 pm

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Idk I’m thinking probably it wasn’t all town who stuck on mastina for ages
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Post Post #12342 (isolation #500) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm

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This is the hardest game I’ve played so far I think
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Post Post #12343 (isolation #501) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:03 pm

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Also
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Post Post #12344 (isolation #502) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:03 pm

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Just wanna say
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Post Post #12345 (isolation #503) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:03 pm

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Once I caught a fish alive
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Post Post #12349 (isolation #504) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:04 pm

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Wait did u guys get that or no?
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Post Post #12350 (isolation #505) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:04 pm

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In post 12347, Pine wrote:
In post 12345, Menalque wrote:Once I caught a fish alive
I’ve had fish jump into my canoe.

Three times.
That’s pretty cool tho, what did you do?
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Post Post #12354 (isolation #506) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:07 pm

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One two three four five

Once I caught a fish alive

Six seven eight nine ten

Then I let it go again
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Post Post #12357 (isolation #507) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 12353, Firebringer wrote:
In post 12334, Menalque wrote:Does anyone with more energy than I have wanna go find the VC for when I built that PP wagon
this is just self delusional
I mean it’s a thing I did, you can literally find it on the day mastina got lynched
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Post Post #12358 (isolation #508) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 12355, Firebringer wrote:
In post 12342, Menalque wrote:This is the hardest game I’ve played so far I think
and ive only seen effort from u like....maybe once or twice.
And?
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Post Post #12369 (isolation #509) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:11 pm

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In post 12360, Firebringer wrote:
In post 12358, Menalque wrote:
In post 12355, Firebringer wrote:
In post 12342, Menalque wrote:This is the hardest game I’ve played so far I think
and ive only seen effort from u like....maybe once or twice.
And?
i don't see how this makes it a difficult game for u?
You’ve got it the wrong way round

I’m disinclined to effort bc it’s hard
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Post Post #12372 (isolation #510) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:12 pm

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Pine why don’t you wanna talk about alternative things then me giving you my vote for fruit
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Post Post #12387 (isolation #511) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:19 pm

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Can we lynch fire
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Post Post #12397 (isolation #512) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:24 pm

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In post 12394, Pine wrote:
In post 12372, Menalque wrote:Pine why don’t you wanna talk about alternative things then me giving you my vote for fruit
Offer me something
Can we narrow down the realm we’re operating in first?

Like are you only interested in things that are gonna give you raw power or are you also open to stuff that may have pure comedy value (à la PP’s gif communication)?
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Post Post #12401 (isolation #513) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:27 pm

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jingle, are we able to make binding commitments regarding future days?
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Post Post #12404 (isolation #514) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:28 pm

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Ugh that’s annoying I was having a fun idea
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Post Post #12407 (isolation #515) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:28 pm

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Are you still interested in my vote?
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Post Post #12408 (isolation #516) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:29 pm

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Ali I don’t think I can eat the fruit until nigjt
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Post Post #12411 (isolation #517) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:29 pm

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In post 12409, Pink Ball wrote:Also didn't the rules change and now we got no twilight?? Mena's probably getting shot after getting the info
Yeah but ali could always WIFOM the doc on me
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Post Post #12415 (isolation #518) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 12410, Pine wrote:
In post 12404, Menalque wrote:Ugh that’s annoying I was having a fun idea
I’m listening
Well like I don’t think it works given that binding commitments aren’t allowed

Also not sure if it would actually be hilariously scumsiding because I didn’t think about the possibilities of it

But what I was wondering about was a commitment to giving you my vote at a future point

So for instance, in 2 days from now or 3 days from now
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Post Post #12417 (isolation #519) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:33 pm

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I kinda wanna eat fruit tho Pb
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Post Post #12420 (isolation #520) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:34 pm

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Okay, so is the deal still on the table or not?
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Post Post #12425 (isolation #521) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 12422, Pink Ball wrote:Doooooooooon't
In post 12417, Menalque wrote:I kinda wanna eat fruit tho Pb
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Post Post #12426 (isolation #522) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:37 pm

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In post 12302, Pine wrote:
In post 12296, Alisae wrote:I'm not even sure what significant setup knowledge could possibly be so gamechanging that it makes someone who is in our poe town
Truth: The information in the Informed fruit has the potential to hardclear someone in your PoE.
When you say this, can you clarify that you mean the PoE that ali has said that e is working within as opposed to the technical PoE (I.e. everyone other than SS/dunn)
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Post Post #12436 (isolation #523) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 12428, Pine wrote:
In post 12426, Menalque wrote:
In post 12302, Pine wrote:
In post 12296, Alisae wrote:I'm not even sure what significant setup knowledge could possibly be so gamechanging that it makes someone who is in our poe town
Truth: The information in the Informed fruit has the potential to hardclear someone in your PoE.
When you say this, can you clarify that you mean the PoE that ali has said that e is working within as opposed to the technical PoE (I.e. everyone other than SS/dunn)
The PoE that e posted that had six names in it
Wasn’t that wooper who posted one with six?

Okay can you just truth text me that the PoE is one that doesn’t have my name in it if you want this vote of mine?
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Post Post #12438 (isolation #524) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:44 pm

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This is beautiful

I didn’t know u were also an artist

My love for u only grows
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Post Post #12440 (isolation #525) » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:03 pm

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So pine do you wanna do this deal
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Post Post #12566 (isolation #526) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:54 am

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We really need to lynch ceph today tbh
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Post Post #12568 (isolation #527) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:58 am

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Ur welcome
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Post Post #12638 (isolation #528) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:33 am

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why are we not doing Cephrir?
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Post Post #12641 (isolation #529) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:38 am

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I don't think Krazy v mastina was TvT
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Post Post #12642 (isolation #530) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:41 am

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I don't think krazy was town this game

My only proper SR atm is krazy

I would rather try and lynch where I think scum is most likely to try and avoid lylo as long as possible. But even if I'm wrong then I think Cephrir is a good lynch bc it avoids us mislynching him tomorrow if dann flips town (and again, I think that's more likely than ceph flipping town, even if I don't have strong feels on exactly how likely it is)
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Post Post #12643 (isolation #531) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:42 am

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also you're sticking to this despite admitting that you don't SR me

if your SRs are wrong (and I know they are) that means that you also have a mistake somewhere in your TRs

if you don't actually see me as scum then why don't you reconsider your TRs and decide who the more likely scum is out of dann/ceph
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Post Post #12647 (isolation #532) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:31 am

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Ali can you tell me why we’re doing dann not ceph?
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Post Post #12649 (isolation #533) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:12 am

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Moi?

I think krazy was scum so it’s more than the slot is scum than ceph particularly

But I mean basically I felt like somewhat he was scummy in his 1v1 with mastina, he kept trying to argue that ank his behind me but then largely left it alone once it didn’t get a lot of traction and I still think the logic for her hiding behind me was bad in a forced way, and also I’m just sheeping mastina
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Post Post #12650 (isolation #534) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:12 am

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Whats the case for scum!dann?
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Post Post #12666 (isolation #535) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:21 am

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Okay

VOTE: dann
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Post Post #12669 (isolation #536) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:24 am

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I don’t know what you’re!talking about
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Post Post #12673 (isolation #537) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 12672, Pine wrote:I think it’s time to lunch Dann

Not a typo
Why don’t you trade me that juicy fruit so that I can have dessert

I have a lovely vote 4 u in exchange
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Post Post #12677 (isolation #538) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:49 pm

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Who got fruit during game btw? Other than PP?
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Post Post #12680 (isolation #539) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:50 pm

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I mean non lethal fruit
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Post Post #12682 (isolation #540) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:51 pm

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Because I’ve asked for fruit like 3 times I think and I haven’t got it once
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Post Post #12685 (isolation #541) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:52 pm

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And I think gamma, fb have both had non lethal fruit?

But idk if pine would actually be that blatant

But I also kinda wonder if he would be given how the PoE is looking rn
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Post Post #12687 (isolation #542) » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:57 pm

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Also hi dunn

Thanks for helping save me from being mislynched
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Post Post #12779 (isolation #543) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 am

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In post 2731, popsofctown wrote:Pine its nothing personal but im putting flipped scum on ignore
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Post Post #12781 (isolation #544) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:42 am

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Icon what do you think of dann, ceph, fb, gamma as a solve?
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Post Post #12782 (isolation #545) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:45 am

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Or actually (dann, ceph, fb, Gamma, Pb) having all the remaining scum
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Post Post #12783 (isolation #546) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:45 am

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As I know you’re TRing ceph
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Post Post #12785 (isolation #547) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:29 am

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why do you think Maria is scum? I don't really have a read there but I've been willing to sheep Ali bc Maria is someone I have problems reading and interacting with
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Post Post #12787 (isolation #548) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:40 am

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why do you feel particularly strongly that you couldn't be wrong on Cephrir/gamma (either or both)?
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Post Post #12809 (isolation #549) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:41 am

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In post 12738, Alisae wrote:Can we lynch already?
The more the day goes on the more scum are just going to keep talking and talking and talking and dominating the thread
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Post Post #12810 (isolation #550) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:41 am

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SS can u vote dann pls
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Post Post #12813 (isolation #551) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:10 am

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if you're not scum then vote dann
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Post Post #12814 (isolation #552) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 12442, Alisae wrote:Do it u won’t
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Post Post #12818 (isolation #553) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:58 am

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In post 12815, Cephrir wrote:I will not and your framing of the issue is disingenuous.
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Post Post #12820 (isolation #554) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:15 am

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just post your reads now dann even if they're not fleshed out
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Post Post #12836 (isolation #555) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:45 am

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Ali, on a scale of gently burning amber flame to blue scorching how hot are you on doing dann today?
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Post Post #12838 (isolation #556) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:48 am

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I mean they're all levels of fire Ali, that's not super helpful
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Post Post #12841 (isolation #557) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:09 pm

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okay so do we need to lynch here today?
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Post Post #12842 (isolation #558) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:09 pm

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bc I'm actually increasingly coming round to pb scum
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Post Post #12844 (isolation #559) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:53 pm

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okay, so like (1) I think going back to Pb's D1 his interactions were off. like, he was around but not a lot, and while he's cute a lot of it feels forced going back? specifically, the appreciation page feels like it could be an attempt to replicate what he's done before to get TR, plus I think more making excuses for not being around than trying to do what he can with the time he has here to actually sort people

also think is potentially bad associatives with lld?

and that is kind of AtE but specifically of wanting to look like someone chilling out the thread and trying to keep things cool which is town points fishing

then actually feels super pockety "Sorry for being paranoid but I respect your game"

then there's that his is like full of people who have made it all the way to here which just seems weird? like I wouldn't expect town to successfully call 8 people lock town there in the game and then have 5/8 of them still around in endgame. I think that's more likely scum planning to hard back their buddies throughout the game and putting a bunch of them in their hard town reads to justify it later on

really looks like theatre imo, and definitely within the realms of what I think pine would orchestrate: get scum!1 -- who's being scum read by scum!2 -- to ask scum!2 to justify their town reads on scum!3 and scum!4

especially because the reasons provided are actually really weak if you look at them, they seem more like excuses for wanting to TR people than naturally evolved reads imo

D2 I really don't like bc I think this is super pockety. and tbh I kinda think that pb would potentially let me get a bit worked up with him EXACTLY to do this because he knows that I started eventually getting paranoid of him in pfup where I was TRing him for reasons to do with liking him and just generally memeing around. this is kind of hard, because some of it is definitely just that I don't really feel pb is right in this game. and I mean I'm kinda sad but I think this is reasonable scum!play from him even if I wish he were town on a purely emotional level

and feel like they could be setting up bad associationals between him/dann/ducky. like if we think that ducky doesn't end up as almost mech!town from your save then don't you think that if pb/dann were to flip red and ducky was in at the end he'd look kind of awful off this? and to some extent the same with me. like, I think if you look at where I was paranoid about dann TRing me too much and that ducky was too onboard with that it makes sense, but rather than me being completely wrong I think it makes sense that it could have been pb + dann setting up bad associatives with me + ducky

also think could be theatre between the three of them/them deliberately making sure they're not avoiding each other in thread

then the whole pb/krazy conversation about whether I was ank's target feels off. I read krazy as scummy for this suggestion and I still do, but I didn't consider that it makes sense for pb if he's focused on pocketing me to defend me there. in that case, if krazy gets traction and I get lynched, pb picks up some easy town points for the defence, plus the fact that I think krazy was p much always more at risk of a lynch than pb

then out of nowhere comes for Mastina while throwing PP in at the same time () which I think is a recurrent pattern -- scum distancing while at the same time choosing to push the town player

then, while I do honestly believe that pb has been busy IRL, I think the way he's approached that absence and AtE'd people around it is scum indicative (let's look at stuff like for example)

also don't think that he's followed through really on the whole "if mastina is town, krazy is scum". I don't think he's really pushed that even if it's superficially made sure to keep in line with it as a perspective. I think a more town reaction would be hard pushing there or just saying "fuck it, I give up on that, let's do this complete other thing" -- this is in reference to but I'm p sure it gets repeated throughout

flipping on krazy in is prob the strongest argument for krazy!town or for pb!town. I'll be honest, I don't totally get how this fits in with pb!scum, but like I think some of the posts afterwards (, , and ) seem weird in relation to that. like the energy and the belief isn't consistent imo and I think that means it's more likely to be faked which would mean scum
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Post Post #12845 (isolation #560) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:54 pm

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that's P1 of his ISO but I'm getting really sleepy so I'll do the other one and a half tomorrow prob
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Post Post #12846 (isolation #561) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:54 pm

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but like can we actually do this? bc I feel like lynching pb is gonna be a hell of a lot harder as we get further in if he's scum and so I think this is one of the cases where lynching today does make more sense even if the pure % chance maybe isn't as high as it is on dann or krazy
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Post Post #12847 (isolation #562) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:55 pm

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like maybe you get lucky with the doc saves again and we're okay but if not then if we do lynch correctly then we're still always only ever 1 lynch away from a game losing mislynch right?
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Post Post #12849 (isolation #563) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:09 pm

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I think he's gonna become exponentially harder to lynch as we get closer or to being the mislynch if we get that far

I also think there's good odds of that happening, but I think you could conceivably get another save if we're lucky as we keep going down in numbers, so if we do mislynch pb today then I think that after lynching dann tomorrow then I think we're in a good place to sort between fire/cephr or decide if it's just both of them by that point if we keep going
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Post Post #12850 (isolation #564) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:11 pm

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talk to me about fire tho?
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Post Post #12854 (isolation #565) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:05 pm

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I emotionally want you to be town Pb I’m just not sure I believe it
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Post Post #12855 (isolation #566) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:05 pm

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What do you think of fb?
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Post Post #12856 (isolation #567) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:05 pm

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Actually what’s your current solve, remind me?
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Post Post #12863 (isolation #568) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:15 pm

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I mean I’m not worried about you based on today really
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Post Post #12865 (isolation #569) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:15 pm

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I’m glad things have calmed a lil btw
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Post Post #12867 (isolation #570) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:16 pm

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In post 12866, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 12863, Menalque wrote:I mean I’m not worried about you based on today really
What do you mean?
My concerns around your slot are not particularly related to your current low activity
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Post Post #12869 (isolation #571) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:20 pm

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Oh I thought you meant general lack of content D6 when you said about delivering
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Post Post #12870 (isolation #572) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:20 pm

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Do you remember that good good wagon on PP a couple of days ago?
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Post Post #12871 (isolation #573) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:21 pm

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Not the lynching one, the one before that
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Post Post #12873 (isolation #574) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:24 pm

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Do you wanna do it again but with fire?
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Post Post #12875 (isolation #575) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:26 pm

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If he’s coming anywhere he’s coming to France to be with me
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Post Post #12878 (isolation #576) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:27 pm

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We’ve got that good good wine here tho
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Post Post #12881 (isolation #577) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:33 pm

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Wine and some bomb-ass cheese
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Post Post #12882 (isolation #578) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:33 pm

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VOTE: fb
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Post Post #12887 (isolation #579) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:44 pm

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Ali you know how fire is also scum

Could we get a joint endorsement maybe?
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Post Post #12890 (isolation #580) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:52 pm

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Do u wanna vote urself then fire
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Post Post #12891 (isolation #581) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:52 pm

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In post 12442, Alisae wrote:Do it u won’t
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Post Post #12895 (isolation #582) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:54 pm

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If u think you’re a better lynch than dann then vote urself
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Post Post #12896 (isolation #583) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 12893, Pink Ball wrote:Why not both
We get each other
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Post Post #12898 (isolation #584) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 12897, Firebringer wrote:
In post 12895, Menalque wrote:If u think you’re a better lynch than dann then vote urself
ohh so ur from clown world.
U realise the deep irony in that it is you of all people who is saying this
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Post Post #12899 (isolation #585) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:56 pm

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If ur town this game your play is literally a joke
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Post Post #12902 (isolation #586) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:00 pm

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I’ve got like half the posts you do and probably at least double the actual content
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Post Post #12904 (isolation #587) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:01 pm

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What have you done other than get a governor fruit and powertrip for a hot second lmao
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Post Post #12906 (isolation #588) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:03 pm

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Like your whole thing is literally just being anti-town when you’re town to help your scum game

Have you done any useful solving?
No

Have you done anything to help the gamestate?
No

Have you done anything to make us think you’re town in the case of a possible mislynch on you if you are town?
No
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Post Post #12908 (isolation #589) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:04 pm

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Are you actually deluded enough to think that your play has been even vaguely decent if you’re town?
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Post Post #12909 (isolation #590) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:04 pm

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What have you done other than throw tantrums
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Post Post #12914 (isolation #591) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:06 pm

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I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not gonna be mislynched as town which is actually pretty solid going

Also nearly got a lynch on PP like 2 days ago

Again

You’ve done

What?
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Post Post #12917 (isolation #592) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:08 pm

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I mean getting fb to openwolf doesn’t seem like a waste of time entirely but I guess if we were gonna lynch there eventually anyway
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Post Post #12919 (isolation #593) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:09 pm

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I’d just <3 if you could point me at literally anything meaningful or useful that you’ve accomplished in this entire game
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Post Post #12924 (isolation #594) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:16 pm

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It’s funny tho cause we’re gonna lynch u and not me
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Post Post #12927 (isolation #595) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:18 pm

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So I mean call me boring if u want but fundamentally I’ve done enough to avoid being mislynched here in endgame whereas if you are town then you haven’t and you don’t even care enough to try smh
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Post Post #12929 (isolation #596) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:18 pm

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In post 12926, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 12923, Firebringer wrote:
does Kirby have a dick?
I mean... I meant you guys measuring your dicks, not me
I’ve only got a really tiny one tho pb, I don’t wanna get involved in a measuring contest
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Post Post #12931 (isolation #597) » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:19 pm

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In post 12928, Pink Ball wrote:Ok I'm not being helpful I'll go to sleep sorry for interupting actual content
I mean you voted fb and that’s all I could really ask of you here
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Post Post #12966 (isolation #598) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:10 am

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Ducky, maria, what do you think of fb?
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Post Post #12967 (isolation #599) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 12952, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 12895, Menalque wrote:If u think you’re a better lynch than dann then vote urself
WHY NOT PINK BALL THOUGH
Changed my mind and think fb is a better lynch here

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