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I actually have no problem with joan doccing befIn post 9460, RCEnigma wrote:If bef is scum here and there were doc shenanigans then yeah that's on me.
what I have a problem with is Creature tracking BEF to Chara on a night when as a split renegade he also would have had to have given macho to davesaz, meaning that Creature was bussing BEF in such a way that if BEF flipped Creature would be confirmed scum, which makes 0 sense whatsoever-
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?In post 9464, RCEnigma wrote:Wait in that world how does that confirm creature scum? You'd have to assume no multitasking and know how often renegade can target in a given night which would probably be in the role pm but it's not a given.
it doesn't confirm creature scum, it confirms BEF town
because creature only claims that result if BEF is town
if BEF was scum, and BEF flipped scum renegade, then creature's result would be outed as a lie and then creature would get lynched too
why would creature bus for the opposite of towncred? that's what I'm saying. it'd be like a hard throw in a scenario where bef ever gets lynched-
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In post 6288, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
Your job is to tell us you're bored, tired and can't sleep??? Or is it to NOT READ and come ask who claimed what and whom to lynch??? WOW! BoonIn post 6286, Creature wrote:
Yah whatever at least I'm doing my jobIn post 6272, 50 Judge Powers wrote:Note: Just because Creature was proven right doesn't mean he's less boring.reallymust've crossed the line on this one. I'll have a few harsh words for him post-game.In post 7771, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
Thank you.In post 7762, Weiss Schnee wrote:no one is asserting bambi was cleared mechanically are they?
Well, I kinda think chemist scum slipped here:
In fact, rereading that exchange I get the idea that Bambi+Creature are one pair of the scum quartet and chemist is a member of the other duo.In post 7680, Chemist1422 wrote:So hiderreceives actions if they hide behind scumwhich might’ve been nice to clarify before I got overexcited
Now I dunno who their 4th is, but if there is an Enchantress that could have targeted NIPS on N1. That probably explains why my action went through, yet I didn't die. Of course, Nips being a Miller still works, so I dunno.
What I do know is scum giving Titus Ascetic is likely to prevent Joan from being on her, so Joan is a Town Doctor for real? *Gulp*In post 7789, 50 Judge Powers wrote:So, it's Bambi+Creature at one OT and Joan+chemist in the other. GAME BLOODY SOLVED.In post 7792, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
Nope. chemist targeted SCUM CREATURE, and he slipped it.In post 7791, Titus wrote:
Simpler is just Aaron dead.In post 7773, 50 Judge Powers wrote:The "condition" required for the 2 scum PTs to be united is probably chemist hiding behind a member of the other duo
Also what do you think now about Joan's opening post?
To me, Joan is confirmed Scum. Creature+chemist are like 90%. Bambi somewhere between 70-80%.In post 8672, 50 Judge Powers wrote:VOTE: chemist
I think this is a better lynch. His flip should tell us a whole lot about both Creature and Bambi (at the very least). If chemist is green then we can trust him to gave been telling the truth and thus Creature is Town. If he is red then we see what modifier(s) he has on him and decide.
I also could lynch BEF today. That "I would like to wait for all to post today before outing." is sus AF. In fact, THAT is who I'm guessing is the Renegade, and he wanted to see if anyone had seen him do it. Else, he could also be a DISLOYAL vendor and wanted to see if the target received it (Town) or not (Scum).
8672 is like the only thing concerning here, but then you see stuff like 8672 which would be even fucking weirder for s/sIn post 9212, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
N3: Interesting. What would have prevented a result on Titus??In post 9148, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Night 1- target 50JP - No Result
Night 2 - tracks BEF to Chara
Night 3 - tracks Titus, didn’t see anything
Night 4 - Creature tracks Bambi to Dave.
N4: Even more interesting. Why didn't Creature mention that (or did I miss it?) when Bambi claimed he was on the Hider (chemist)??
7789 and 7792 are some hard busses, I'm trying to remember his hardest busses as scum but I feel like I haven't rolled against his scum game that often actually, still pretty surprising for s/s-
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although despite shading Creature for all of page 2 of his iso, this is the only time he ever votes creatureIn post 9120, 50 Judge Powers wrote:So you both want that lynch? Granted!
VOTE: LoserdudeOG/Creature/TrueSoulEnergy/"whoever replaces TSE"
although there are a lot of votes on joan and then eventually into bambi
so I guess by "titus-method" 50J doesn't look as good as he can for antiassociatives with creature even if his tone toward creature throughout is softly not s/s-
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In post 6935, Creature wrote:BEF visited Chara-
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actually shitIn post 6483, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I thought I did enough already but I'll lay it out:In post 6415, Venus and Mars wrote:Sorry @Titus, who should I aim for? I think it would greatly help if everyone who hasn’t already claimed do so. @RCE, @BEF, Haggle, please claim, thanks.
Dirty Laundry Vendor with no modifiers.
N1: V&M
N2: Chara-
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SO
IF Titus docced BEF n1
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If Creature is not shared PT with BEF
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If Creature actually gambited on saying he tracked BEF to chara not realizing BEF was split renegade
then BEF could be scum
but it requires all three of those things to be true which means BEF would have had to be accidentally double cleared as scum this game LOL-
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ebwop joan obviouslyIn post 9476, Weiss Schnee wrote:IF Titus docced BEF n1-
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In post 8694, BrightEyedFish wrote:and wrt to Creature's announce, I received the PM from mod well after Daystart-
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all obvious horseshit
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In post 8707, BrightEyedFish wrote:After re-reading the latter parts of JP50s iso, with emphasis on the Joan lynch posts, it makes me think they are not the same alignment. I am kind of TRing 50JP now.
Why is my vote missing from the VCA?In post 8445, Boonskiies wrote:50 Judge Powers, Amrun, Weiss Schnee, RCEnigma, Titus, Joan of Arc, Bambi Jay ———Joan of Arc [7]:[EXECUTED]
I kind of want to look to those NOT on the Joan wagon. Which should include Bambi, Haggle, Emperor flippyNips, Chemist1442, Davesaz,In post 8305, BrightEyedFish wrote:Now that Titus isn't 100% sure I don't feel as cautious voting for Joan. I was under the impression that Titus had more than meta info.
VOTE: JoanCreature.
In post 6923, Creature wrote:Man...In post 6925, Creature wrote:Why are we doing absolutely no progress towards finding scum?In post 6931, Creature wrote:
Wait you have suicide bomb?In post 6900, Venus and Mars wrote:My sui bomb is today’s lynch. Remember Shiro had to ask about that?In post 6935, Creature wrote:BEF visited Chara
The difference/progession in posts 6925 and 6935 is not adding up, especially when you realize they are only 4 mins apart.In post 6937, Creature wrote:I didn't want to reveal that earlier because it would ruin the momentum of chk wagon
VOTE: Creature
8707 is the best anti-associative but it's very late in the gameIn post 8722, BrightEyedFish wrote:Scum!Creature would probably be fishing for a PR or one of the other scum partners by tracking me, I would assume.
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In post 8733, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I'm TRing that slot. I don't really trust his Creature result though.In post 8732, 50 Judge Powers wrote: I dunno... chemist then?
@BEF: What is your take/read on chemist??
8733 is kinda bad but there's a lot of theater on page 2 of the iso for s/sIn post 8819, BrightEyedFish wrote:
This is what I don't unterstand. Why can't we both be town?In post 8818, Bambi Jay wrote: But either of you dying will clear or mostly guilty the other. That's why I'm doing this.-
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you know I kinda remember thinking this spewed BEF town but maybe he was actually just trying to frame me?In post 8734, Bambi Jay wrote:Oh shit Creature was still on the Fish from earlier so he was actually at L-1 for a bit until Weiss unvoted. Amrun could've had a chance to hammer had Weiss not unvoted.
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In post 7788, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
WAIT THE FUCK UP!In post 34, Joan of Arc wrote:One King to find them
One King to divide them
One King to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them
- Macbeth, i, iii
VOTE: JOAN
You bloody fools! That crumb is still up there and you dismissed it. Joan is telling you the scum will search for each other to be reunited. They are divided and that "One King" should find them and "bind" them "in the darkness".
JOAN LITERALLY TOLD US THE SCUM WERE DIVDED LONG BEFORE AARON FLIPPED. I BLOODY TOLD YOU AARON JOINED THAT PT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH IS SCUM P.
Like idk dude these are quite the bussesIn post 7789, 50 Judge Powers wrote:So, it's Bambi+Creature at one OT and Joan+chemist in the other. GAME BLOODY SOLVED.-
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Idk what do I do with this postIn post 8734, Bambi Jay wrote:Oh shit Creature was still on the Fish from earlier so he was actually at L-1 for a bit until Weiss unvoted. Amrun could've had a chance to hammer had Weiss not unvoted.
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Spoiler:
honestly RCE associatives aren't great either, there's a reason I was on him earlier. He has good negative assoc with Joan but that doesn't mean much when anyone would want to bus Joan
the roleblock shot was never confirmed although it is a surprising gambit for scum RCE
I don't like a few posts here but idk
bef's play if he's last scum looks a little weirder than RCE's play OTHER than the roleblock claim-
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oh although what was going on here was you somehow flipped AF and Joan?In post 9398, BrightEyedFish wrote:Because I kind of think it was
50JP & AF
Bambi & TSE
Joan knew 50JP and Bambi were scum.
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also for comparison, this is a relatively recent scum A50 game... he's not really that into bussing/theater I think?In post 417, Almost50 wrote:Bottom of page 5:
Town pile (nothing carved in stone though):davesaz, Gamma Emerald, Zote the Mighty, Layla, Vorkuta, Chemist1422,Reundo
I want to TR but my gut says no:Flavor Leaf
Absolutely null: Pmysterious12, Fish Monger, Billy Pilgrim, Dunnstral, Wake88, splitfarvle
Scum leans: Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE, Tea (but I'm almost certain not all 3 are scum together and I even think they may only have one scum in them)-
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Here's an AP bus
Subject: Large Normal 216 - Endgame
AP wrote:
Permission to sheep (and I will already assume permission granted)In post 1089, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Flubbernugget
I remember getting scumpings from this, and I don’t wanna vanity vote rn
VOTE: Flubber
it's pretty diff from this game-
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ok sure but uhhh don't we just win in 3-way then when nips gets lynched?In post 9537, BrightEyedFish wrote:50jp said himself he doesn't believe the miller claim.-
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Yeah idk, RCE not actually returning and engaging BEF after he said he was gonna hammer is actually my biggest concern with his slot
with BEF there's the creature thing which maybe should be town indicative but vs RCE gambiting both receiving ascetic n1 and the rb shot I'd maybe lean BEF
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I'm convinced it's not 50 and I have 0 mech explanation for nips scum and if he was telling truth about ss we can even lynch him tomorrow anyway
So even if boon decided to say fu to the game with a bs pr for nips I don't see how it's not between you two
Unless you think 50 decided this was the game he starts hard bussing his entire team and smoked an entire bowl for the most dedicated fakeclaim ever? Cause I don't see that-
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Occam's razor slightly leans nips, with only one weird gambit (from creature) vs. 2 surprising gambits (rb claim and delay on self-targeted ascetic claim) in addition to not requiring renegade self-targeting
Don't get me wrong , mech doesn't make anything in this clusterfuck clear, but it is slightly less insane for bef to be scum than anything else I guess?-
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And what piece could we possibly have other than 'bullshit role"? It's already a (4+) shot split renegade able to give out macho, loyal, ascetic, and desperate. Why would it also somehow either cancel shots or make a weak visitor survive?
Now if there was a concern there then it'd be toward your slot, since ascetic is the only duplicate modifier... so if it functioned as a joat somehow that might be a problem. Maybe I'll reread profiis card from lnt again
Between you and bef off play I think you're scummier since you never really pushed anywhere today or clearly tried to solve but it seems like 50 made up his mind at this point and there is that weird bambi post
So like I could go for you instead but now bef's appealing to you and 50 seems to have made up his mind lol, weird gamestate-
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