Why Gun?? - Town Win

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Hiya

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VOTE: NorweegianboyEE

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Might be better to block up as a firing squad and point guns at people collectively for enhanced pressure


1 shot - 15%
2 shots - 27.75%
3 shots - 38.59%
4 shots - 48.80%
5 shots - 55.63%

But what about my wild west fantasy.

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Lots of shootouts involved more than 2 guns

But it wouldn't be wild. You know.

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My vote was serious. AMA.

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Seems a little watchy.

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What?

Watch and wait.

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I understand. To avoid an old yeller situation this is the only way to proceed.

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Hi Datasi. Why did you vote my person.

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Hi Datasi. Why did you vote my person.

who's that?

because you're scum

VOTE: Datasi

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You can't insult me like that and get away with it.

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My pride won't let me change the wording of my vote. Being a cowboy in the wild west means never having to say you're sorry.

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how do I do ISO's on this site?
i'm a newbie to mafiascum but have played about 20+ games on MU and 5 or 6 on TOS so I've played a lot of FM
have I already said that? I don't know lol

Click on display posts by user. Below text box.

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I was flung down the river and then he left.

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Trplehaven's probably town? I feel like I'm on the wrong account for a goofy game like this.

Maybe, early vibes.

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We need at least 6 more votes. for me to take this wagon seriously.

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4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.

But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.

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4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.

But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.

Hey!!!!! i resent that!!!

What was your reason then?

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@Bell

Are you an alt?

I played here 6 years ago. But this is my main account now. I forgot my password.

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"town?" means "i think there people are probably town but i'm not gonna pretend that i'm confident after 6 pages which were mostly shitposting"

But pretending to be confident is how you get the game moving.

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4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.

But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.

Hey!!!!! i resent that!!!

What was your reason then?

N/A

slightly didn't like your reaction to Datisi's vote. Really i joined cause i sort of like Mena and to help "pressure"

going forward i think i've learned max is light town, trip is lean town

Maybe river was the maf.

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i have decided Triple is town and if anyone tries to shoot them I will shoot u in response

Making alliances based on cute avatars is illegal

Are you implying my avatar isn't cute.

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Mena is datisi's reason your reason too.

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Mena is datisi's reason your reason too.

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Are you convinced there's scum on your wagon, bell?

There's a 38% percent chance that mafia is on my wagon.

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VOTE: menalque

Maybe this one.

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VOTE: menalque

Maybe this one.

im thinking either none or maybe max. I'm turning around on you.. maybe

It could be max, sure. But he is ignoring a direct question about his reads.

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A prisoner's dilemma is what makes this game exciting to me.

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anyways that post from datisi has been the only thing that has pinged me since i got here so
VOTE: Datisi

mhm?

i was hoping this would be a clear "elaborate"

ah, I kinda explained it in a different post but because you asked;

The post (about your reads) kinda felt wishy-washy as you did not seem confident in them at all, and you proved that by, well, saying that you weren't confident in them later. It makes sense from town POV but the sear amount of reads + your low confidence in them felt icky.

This take is almost as bad as datasi's take.

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there can be no universal townread because i have determined none of u are town. i AM the universe.

your vote on me implied you think i'm mafia, don't give me that shit lmao

i have given u no shit, datsisi!

is the universe susceptible to being killed with bullets? i don't think so!!

We should test out your claim

not me though, I'm taking a pacifist lifestyle and also still have not figured out how to pick up the gun

This take is almost as bad as datasi's take.

Scummy bad or just bad?

Just bad.

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Okay Proposal: We don't shoot morning tweet or triplehaven.

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I think bell is a good shot for tomorrow, as they're topwagon now i believe (???)

You think that because I have the most votes on me, I'm the best person to shoot?

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Is there some reason you're ignoring me mena?

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KnS haven’t really done anything worth considering them town for yet

tbf, if I have done something worth considering me town, then that would be concerning of its own right.

Very valid point

ok but how's that a good thing?
like part of your obligation as town is to be towny.

This is an opinion and not a fact. Some say that trying to appear town as town makes you artificial which is difficult to distinguish between mafia artificial and town artificial.

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Sure, why are you voting me? Do you share datisi's opinion or is it something else?

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Also set up contribution.
Because none of us trust each other there's motivation to shoot first or be shot. See: Prisoner's dilemma.
My initial shooting will be tit for tat.

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Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

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Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

I mean, not exactly

What exactly did you mean then?

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hello ali

Hello

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Why does the shooting start at 2 am.

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Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

I mean, not exactly

Is this a Maf crumb.

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the hell is a maf crumb?

It’s mafia crumb.
Do you still read me as mafia?

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Is it normal for datisi to stretch his reasoning this far?

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I think my wagon is garbage.

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Is it normal for datisi to stretch his reasoning this far?

sorry, what am i stretching?

Your reads.

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

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I was wondering what porkers would open with lol

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I’ll say it differently,
Why are you reaching to create reads on people?

because i like having some sorta basis to work on, no matter how shaky it is? because i'm trying to solve the game?

like if you think i'm makign shit up, then stop throwing aimless shade and point out where you think i'm lying

There’s a difference between lying and making shit up.

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ok.

if you think i am baselessly making up reads in a way that makes me scum, point it out. if not, stop throwing shade.

Why?

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I’m trying to figure out what datisi is doing,

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I’m trying to figure out what datisi is doing,

i am trying to read you????

like you're accusing me of being reachy, when i tell you to own up to it and point out WHERE, you're like "why?"

the fuck am i supposed to think

I know you’re being reachy. I’m not accusing you of it.

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do you think that i am being reachy in a scummy manner?

Tbh, kinda.

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Based on our interactions.
You asked me to point out where you were lying, then asked me to point out where you were reaching and then asked me to point out how reaching made you mafia.



See your initial vote and explanation for reachiness.

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Based on our interactions.
You asked me to point out where you were lying, then asked me to point out where you were reaching and then asked me to point out how reaching made you mafia.



See your initial vote and explanation for reachiness.

i really think ur reaching here, bell

Okay, who do you think is mafia?

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VOTE: NorweegianboyEE

My vote was serious. AMA.

Seems a little watchy.

What?

Watch and wait.

@umlaut
this strikes me as "wow look me i am solving i have reads wow how do you do fellow townies"

gaving typed that out i now see i could just say lamist but i prefer "how do you do fellow townies"

You’re reaching because that wasn’t what I was doing. See: post 146. I can’t figure out how to make a link to it.

Other than that just umlaut #280.

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Why are you reading mena as townie bati?

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You’re reaching because that wasn’t what I was doing

so datisi sees you do stuff and makes a conclusion, you say it's the wrong conclusion therefore datisi = scum

and you say datisi is reaching?

noice

That’s putting words in my mouth. I’m saying when given an explanation he didn’t respond to it.

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You’re reaching because that wasn’t what I was doing

so datisi sees you do stuff and makes a conclusion, you say it's the wrong conclusion therefore datisi = scum

and you say datisi is reaching?

noice

That’s putting words in my mouth. I’m saying when given an explanation he didn’t respond to it.

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I’m saying when given an explanation he didn’t respond to it.

what explanation did you give that datisi did not respond to?

146

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Norwegian, why aren’t you shooting yourself yet,

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Yup!

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I believe you’re blaming me for your own misunderstanding,

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actually this could be t/t

glad this is solved, moving on

Disagree, time for some vigilante justice up this b.
HURT: Bell

HURT: NorweigianboyEE

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It’s 3:14 am and it was a bad decision to try to communicate with other folks at this time.

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It’s 3:14 am and it was a bad decision to try to communicate with other folks at this time.

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Because he shot me and in a game of prisoner’s dilliema it’s the correct choice.

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Because he shot me and in a game of prisoner’s dilliema it’s the correct choice.

ok

if you don't die, i will shoot you as well

I’m not entirely sure what you’re saying here. It just sounds like you’re acting morally outraged to be funny.

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Bell now also has an OMGUS shot on his guilty conscience.

A 15% chance is so low, that I’d be surprised if any of us died tbh,

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Inb4 2 of us die,

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Okay seriously I have to sleep. It was fun. See you in the morning/dead thread.

Mena got shot by porkens.

If my or Norwe’s shot goes through that’s two dead folk.

@iconeum. I’m not. If I was hard scum reading him I’d have shot him instead.

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May I interest you in a iconeum shot instead.

VOTE: iconeum

@mod beach vacation Monday-Tuesday. I might still post though just an fyi

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ok, now that that shot missed

@bell, can you make me a readslist? you've called a lot of people scum so far, are you serious about those? who are you townreading?

@ico: ...why?

Town reading you and tweet. You responded better than I thought you might. Tweet has been acting, moving the game along, reading, and generally looking out for people. He doesn’t seem to be shying away from anyone either.

Iconeum I just think the entire 1v1 running commentary was bs.

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I was poked.

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Heading down to the beach in 5 minutes.
Mena who is mafia?

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Like I haven’t read about his change from non entity to why you think he’s Mafia.

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I don’t disagree with the idea that moral arguments are more mafia-like than whatever weird opinions people have about what mafia look like. It’s just a differently worded “I take no responsibility for what this town person flips”

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But Iconeum got shot and she flipped town so there you go.

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i feel like Something is Very Wrong, but considering this is indeed a game of mafia with 3 scum alive, that doesn't tell me much

I just figure the mafia are stronger players than the town ppl so far.

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i feel like Something is Very Wrong, but considering this is indeed a game of mafia with 3 scum alive, that doesn't tell me much

I just figure the mafia are stronger players than the town ppl so far.

Aren’t there 5 mafia in this game?

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I was hoping Bell hadn't read the thread and I'd get something funny and maybe alignment indicative like "I knew he was scum"

Thanks for sharing your inner hopes and dreams. As I sit on the beach enjoying my day.

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I thought it was 5 because 3 or 4 felt like too few. That’s where the 38% chance my scum on my wagon statistic came from. 5/13

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Sure.

VOTE: porkens

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Is this what pocketing looks like

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Teasing. Porkers didn’t seem to get many votes before it turned to umlaut. Not sure if mena’s Just bsing to get more info on people or not.

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Maxwell’s notes don’t seem very sinister to me.

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I wondering where you went since I was waiting to see if you’d try to interact with me this time.

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i Feel like mena is just leading the town to poke at the corner players. Porkens just shapes up and started talking the second pressure began to be applied which is null-alignment indicative to me.

You’re trying to interact with folk which is good. But have you considered trying to get something out of them more specifically than ‘tel me your view on things?’ Then again maybe it helps you to see if their world view is fake. I’m null on the motivation being mafia or town to discuss the set up. I thought about arguing against the idea of coordinated shooting when I thought there was five Mafia. Just from the shots fired though, I really don’t see what porkers is talking about re concerned about shots being controlled. They’re fairly chaotic.

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Bell what is your thoughts of the mena-datisi-tweet alignments, they are pretty active players, and i think all three of them would have u believe all 3 are town

but i think it is a little dangerous to mess up on playing mafia and getting "these players have the most total town indicative posts" and listing all the players with the most posts-----------++++++++++++

sometimes
sry pandora just felt that the negatives and positives of this vibe really needed to be shared
or that her but needed the space the top right corner of numpad was occupying
it's really unclear
shes enigmatic
anwyay can we jam rn------------------

I just hope they get shot at night and I don’t have to deal with reading and then having to convince other people to vote them if I think they’re mafia.

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Bell what is your thoughts of the mena-datisi-tweet alignments, they are pretty active players, and i think all three of them would have u believe all 3 are town

but i think it is a little dangerous to mess up on playing mafia and getting "these players have the most total town indicative posts" and listing all the players with the most posts-----------++++++++++++

sometimes
sry pandora just felt that the negatives and positives of this vibe really needed to be shared
or that her but needed the space the top right corner of numpad was occupying
it's really unclear
shes enigmatic
anwyay can we jam rn------------------

I guess you did consider it. I don’t town read them for posting a lot. But I do kinda town read them for doing things to move the game along and not really seeming to be too concerned with getting a miselmination through.

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lol i think it's like the mafia equivalent of being bad at small talk

in the past i've said about my play that i don't really ask people questions
i think maybe my style is trying to shift kind of somewhat by trying to ask questions but not knowing what to ask

i tend to much more just watch other stuff going on
i'm not generally characterized as a passive or sidelines player tho
usually i see something that ends up with me picking a fight
but it's usually not something i asked

does that make sense?
2pedits

That’s fine. Is it normal for you to explain yourself so automatically? I remember when you mentioned the umlaut fake shot and kill and I thought you were asking me if I wanted to vote them back then. I wasn’t sure if it was you just trying to seem like you had an internal thought process or if it was just a habit.

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Have you shot yet bell?

I shot norwee, when he shot me. Thinking on what you said. I’m frankly not confident enough at scum hunting to think that without looking at everybody I would know who the scum are if the scum were in the active section while the town did not post.

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I’m probably just grateful that they’re helping me out so that I have more to work with when we have more flips etc.

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It’s midnight and I should turn in. I hope this helped. Sorry if it didn’t.

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Hi so I saw the deadline for the day and I am here now.

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That is literally why I am here. Saying hello. Before doing so.

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Norwe hasn’t said much but I don’t see much that’s suspicious there. I feel like there’s more mafia on that wagon than the one on umlaut but you know. I can’t read people.

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VOTE: NorweegianBoyEE

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gg.

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I wonder how I could have pushed datisi less goofily. Whenever I pressure people I feel like I'm balancing a banana on my nose and staggering around and that's what my pressure looks like.

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I think Mena played well simply from the standpoint that I couldn't really see him being mafia a 3rd of the way through day 1.