Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[Esooa]

hello gamers

[Esooa]

vfp top wagon, interesting

[Esooa]

what kinda setup is this expected to be in terms of mechanics?

[Esooa]

what kinda setup is this expected to be in terms of mechanics?

We don't know

okay, idr the general site culture so idk if these games are like role madness or low power or such things but it's wtv

[Esooa]

I name myself

What do I win

This is a copout answer.

Hey guys, you know what alignment likes copout answers? That's right, the mafia!

VOTE: unwnd

disagreeable read but the first read made in the game, so some leeway

I'm considering giving this cred for trying to figure stuff out but,,,, hmmm

[Esooa]

I put on my happy face

[Esooa]

I go to sleep and wake up to like 5 posts in an 18 player game what is this

This is a remarkably good point. The explanation is the player list and that I'm drowning in work.

Also, why did Unwnd replace out. /:

remarkably good point is really weird wording for such a milquetoast observation

[Esooa]

Someone say they feel I am town or scum so we can start to break RVS.

Either that or comment on Romance wagon which is a gun to my head wagon on scum.

This is also very confusing because Romance had 1 post which was mostly NAI and they got like 3 votes immediately after

Do you normally fade mafia like this? As well as, like... Why are you gth reading them like this without any explanation? I don't understand the point unless it's so move the game forward, but you're not actually doing anything such as providing reasonsing

meh

[Esooa]

Darn not rvs anymore.
Initial tr on samantha.

Samantha making good posts and this is the first person town reading them so I like this thought generally

[Esooa]

ok well I'm obvtown now. look at this silence lol. scum are scared to TR or SR me for what I just said.
The number of people that looked at this thread since I last posted is greater than one. We got active scum here.

cool. anyways {raya, Samantha} has one scum, one town. 75% certain.

I'm losing my mind at this post. It is so zany

[Esooa]

why does it have to be genuine

Because town should generally be genuine. It's scum who want to fake a scumread

this is a good take

the angle i thought you were taking here is that it was okay for town to be a bit artificial early on to drive the game forward

and importantly i thought this implied you did so

i didn't like that but saw it as plausibly town, calling it a good take is really taking the ball and running the other direction

why even ask this if your take was genuine?

town leaning willow for this post

[Esooa]

Someone say they feel I am town or scum so we can start to break RVS.

Either that or comment on Romance wagon which is a gun to my head wagon on scum.

What's the logic behind this one, Titus?

decent town read on Romance not just for this comment but ones around it being all thoughts I agree with

[Esooa]

strong temptation to never read another bear hugs post

Except maybe nancy's, they seem cool

But idk if it's worth it

[Esooa]

Why is willow scum, Pooky?
Good question, Noraa
Willow is scum because of the shitty SR on us.

kind of OMGUS if you think about it that way. But attacking Noraa's activity when she is busy af is kinda rude. She just came back from a vla two days ago or something and y'all like "eh she not posting enough"

dumbass, I can post 1600 posts in a scum game. Do you think being silent is scum indicative?
No, fuck off.

yeah this post is towny enough they're so mad that people are doing things that aren't town reading them, generally see that coming from town so I'm just gonna stop reading their posts until I really need to

[Esooa]

vfr is a good vote

really weird post. I feel like a naked scum read like this with so little prior content is probably towny, but I'm kinda mrrrr at it

[Esooa]

VOTE: Enchant

Dunn vote is bad

why? And why vote Enchant instead of Samantha for it?

[Esooa]

god that Flea catchup post is too much rn. Fae can be a town read just for it tbh lol

[Esooa]

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| samantha97, enchant, bear hugs, willow1 |
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look at that beautiful rectangular town block

anyone else wanna join

What happened to thinking Enchant was mafia for unwnd's response to Dunnstral?

Retti's opening was extremely scummy but at least this is lightly towny

[Esooa]

I don’t really like the vfp/Willow 2 page argument I started scum king jt on final page. Just seemed like a whole lot of back n forth with 0 progress.

scum king jt? what is this?

[Esooa]

VOTE: Retti

Wagon this pls thanks

[Esooa]

VFP is obviously town and I'm shielding him

[Esooa]

mafia: jjh927, Bell, Retti

town: VFP, Whemestar, Willow, Bamboozle, t3, romance

light town: Raya, bear, Samantha, Flea

[Esooa]

Apologies as I've only been skimming thus far- I'll give this game a proper read and put some reads out today

it seems I have indeed found the mafia

Votes here are also okay. But every person should be off VFP

[Esooa]

mafia: jjh927, Bell, Retti

town: VFP, Whemestar, Willow, Bamboozle, t3, romance

light town: Raya, bear, Samantha, Flea

Add Enchant to town, forgot him

[Esooa]

Oh, because you seem sort of genuine, but also you sound like you're posturing. So I'm super confused.
I guess maybe you're trying not to sound like yourself? I'm inclined to alt guess.

I don't really think 196 is a non-content pop in. If you want my opinion on non-content, I very much enjoy people's shit posts, sometimes even more than their content.

previous explained post and this one is bad as well

Reads exactly like a mafia struggling with TMI. He scum reads no one, and the things he is talking about here should cause a villager concern, yet he is twisting them into being towny

That's because, imo, he knows they are town

[Esooa]

I thought that was a towny post, personally, but looking at Bell's iso there's not a lot else so I think what I saw while skimming might not have been a representative sample

I don't think there's any issue with not having proper scumreads this many pages into the game

It's not just that but the fact he's finding things towny for seemingly no reason

His reads don't seem to line up to what's posted in thread, and his reads skew towards calling people town

That's because, like I said, he knows they are town

[Esooa]

More people are town than scum

It is far easier to townhunt in the first part of day 1 than it is to actually expect to find scum, then look for scum in the people you have not got in the town pile

Like, you're in my locktown pile already

what for?

[Esooa]

That might be a playstyle difference

maybe, I'll wait to see more. But I dislike he's not done anything since start of day too. But it could change

[Esooa]

if you've been skimming do yuo have any reads on other players you can give rn?

[Esooa]

Aside from you being locktown
Bear hydra is locktown
Enchant is town
Bamboozle is town
VFP is town
Bell is town
Wheme looks town
Titus looked town but I'm not sure I can read Titus


Raya is a scumlean, as is samantha, and I'm torn on Retti

can you explain raya/retti?

I think you've been fine so I'm okay moving you to null atm

[Esooa]

Thank you for making me post now because I was telling myself I was gonna post in like 12 hours when I'd woken up more and when I tell myself that it's usually a lie

why do you usually not post?

[Esooa]

Aside from you being locktown
Bear hydra is locktown
Enchant is town
Bamboozle is town
VFP is town
Bell is town
Wheme looks town
Titus looked town but I'm not sure I can read Titus


Raya is a scumlean, as is samantha, and I'm torn on Retti

actually

if you have vfp as town, why didn't you say anything before this? Feels weird you don't care to give a town read on someone who is being wagoned

[Esooa]

we meet again esoaa

looks like we're aligned again too

wait we've played again?

oh we're you in open world?

[Esooa]

VOTE: bell

[Esooa]

Oh, Esooa. Did I play with you in Circle of Trust?

-Bam

who are you?

[Esooa]

@Esooa can you please answer me why VFP is so obvtown to you

I've played with him before. I know his meta. Snippy, sarcastic comments, not giving so many in depth reads, etc. I'm not really that interested in going over all it, but I just don't see anything he's done as scummy either yet he's being pushed by a lot of people for it

[Esooa]

Oh, Esooa. Did I play with you in Circle of Trust?

-Bam

who are you?

I was Hoctic in that game

-Bam

Maybe? Don't really remember

[Esooa]

Retti's recent posting doesn't really do much for me. I dislike how they're focusing so much on VFP, would prefer reads on more of the PL

[Esooa]

why do you think I'm town samantha?

[Esooa]

we meet again esoaa

looks like we're aligned again too

that's what I got from this post

unless you are calling me your scum partner :p

what is your read on me

[Esooa]

I wish I could

[Esooa]

btw that post makes Samantha >rand lost wolf if there is one lol

[Esooa]

you're completely wrong on my posts but I don't really care

your vote is in a better place tbh cause I'm never going over today whereas vfp could

[Esooa]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Paradise-6

vfp town game I was in

[Esooa]

if you want my opinion of his fight with willow it's that I don't give a fuck and didn't read it

he opens the game calm

his tone is the same as other games

he is contributing

he does not play to impress anyone or get town read, in fact when someone says he's a good vote he says then they should be voting him and questions why they aren't

like, every post he makes is towny

I never disagreed with it but it's a chore to explain

my point of saying he's done nothing scummy is that he's done nothing scummy yet is being wagoned

for poor reasons

the thread state basically spews him town outside his play

[Esooa]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Paradise-6

vfp town game I was in

Wow, the town players in the game suck ass


After reading it through, I don't really think it's comparable at all. That game was almost totally barren for content and and had nothing to work with, and yet

he did not performatively grouse about the lack of activity the way he has here

. He set about trying to make reads, question others, and solve in a fairly calm manner. He didn't get snippy or sarcastic, really, except for for dismissing the person flipping out at him when they were tunneling each other. I absolutely do not believe you could be dead-certain he is town based off a single game of experience with him

have you even looked at his ISO this game

lol

[Esooa]

if you want my opinion of his fight with willow it's that I don't give a fuck and didn't read it

Oh, convenient


Yeah, this is scum

your reads are shit and I'm going to move forward by ignoring you until you get faded for being PoEd cause of shit reads

[Esooa]

actually I'm going to continue calling retti mafia

his posts are legit awful

he has no actual substantive reason to scum read vfp nor myself

his posting after I comment how bad his view of the game is (being convinced to so few people) is nothing but reiterating his vfp scum read and even that is simply because vfp got mad someone, nothing more

and then also voting me for basically game throwing bad reasons if town

[Esooa]

I had apprehension because I wasn't sure if he was capable of pretending to do work as mafia but when he comes out with no good conclusions from his with I am not going to consider it

[Esooa]

he opens the game calm

his tone is the same as other games

he is contributing

he does not play to impress anyone or get town read, in fact when someone says he's a good vote he says then they should be voting him and questions why they aren't

like, every post he makes is towny

I never disagreed with it but it's a chore to explain

my point of saying he's done nothing scummy is that he's done nothing scummy yet is being wagoned

for poor reasons

the thread state basically spews him town outside his play

I don't believe this explanation, and if this was your actual reasoning, why did you not lead with it, rather than saying "oh this is his town meta ez"? To me this looks like inventing a new story after the fact when I poked holes in your old one

because dialoguing with players like you is useless, as has been proven, so I didn't really want to talk to you before

at this point it's pertinent so I can show the thread you are not trying to read people fairly

[Esooa]

actually I'm going to continue calling retti mafia

his posts are legit awful

he has no actual substantive reason to scum read vfp nor myself

his posting after I comment how bad his view of the game is (being

confined

to so few people) is nothing but reiterating his vfp scum read and even that is simply because vfp got mad someone, nothing more

and then also voting me for basically game throwing bad reasons if town

edited

[Esooa]

I also explained already that I didn't feel it was the right time to out reads on everyone yet

lmao

[Esooa]

have you looked at vfps iso in this game?

[Esooa]

I'm just that good at mafia

[Esooa]

willow I'm thinking of doing something really dumb

can it involve answering if you've read vfps iso in this game

[Esooa]

lmao

[Esooa]

no I'm just annoyed right now in general and retti posts are all bad and I'm 90% sure he hasn't read vfps iso in ~this~ game

[Esooa]

which honestly is kinda hilarious

[Esooa]

romance do you want to be my mason buddy

[Esooa]

oh based <3

[Esooa]

time to wait a day and call willow slanking mafia

[Esooa]

can I get jjh reads

[Esooa]

nvm, maria not necessary, satisfied that i can continue playing this game

carry on

there goes my free misfade

[Esooa]

I want retti to answer if they had read vfps iso in this game so bad

[Esooa]

also yeah I'm not an alt either

[Esooa]

no I'm just annoyed right now in general and retti posts are all bad and I'm 90% sure he hasn't read vfps iso in ~this~ game

This is just classic scum smear. Of course I have, and it's not like I wouldn't be able to read it as scum, so what's the purpose of this attack?

why did it take you so long to answer

[Esooa]

no I'm just annoyed right now in general and retti posts are all bad and I'm 90% sure he hasn't read vfps iso in ~this~ game

This is just classic scum smear. Of course I have, and it's not like I wouldn't be able to read it as scum, so what's the purpose of this attack?

why did it take you so long to answer

Is this supposed to be a gothca? I left to eat dinner between the last page and now.

no I'm just wondering cause I found it funny and I also just find it hard to believe you actually did because

your comments on vfp are entirely on his most recent posting

you skipped over my question multiple times

I opened vfps iso again and he was obvious town within like the first half a page so I'm still not sure why you're so hung up on him

that's all. I don't really care to discuss it more

[Esooa]

idk given ur opening posts, citations and comparisons of meta, and pinpoint of what exactly was happening & scummy in the exchange w/ me, was pretty openended and coulda gone either way tbh

how do u feel about sam, i really didn't like their random townblock/responses to pressure but the open opportunism is kind of giving me pause? mite b dumb to tr that

who is this to?

[Esooa]

idk given ur opening posts, citations and comparisons of meta, and pinpoint of what exactly was happening & scummy in the exchange w/ me, was pretty openended and coulda gone either way tbh

how do u feel about sam, i really didn't like their random townblock/responses to pressure but the open opportunism is kind of giving me pause? mite b dumb to tr that

who is this to?

it's to retti because the answer was blatantly yes regardless of alignment and even if he somehow hadn't he'd still say yes

but imagine

[Esooa]

[Esooa]

bruh I seriously have no fucking clue what to tell you if you think someone not being fully level headed and logical while in an argument with someone means they're intentionally lying

[Esooa]

you're missing the point esooa

you said vfp didn't do anything scummy

retti is saying how do you know if you didn't read the willow/vfp fight (the scummiest part of the iso)

you can say they've been town enough that it doesn't matter, which i believe is what you're saying, but shouldn't require an interpreter

you're making over the top claims in your defense of vfp that are shooting you in the foot. retti meanwhile is seeing the same shit he watched town do like clockwork every game and scumreading it which I don't agree w/ but find plausible

I mean

I've read the posts retti quoted

and I've read the things retti and others have said vfp did

I have no problems with the post and I don't particularly care if someone makes conflicting statements while they're mad/in an argument

that is just normal

[Esooa]

ie. vfp can be town, and you can be right, but being measured and realistic in what you claim about the iso goes a long way. if you think that iso is blatantly town from the first half alone that's fine, but going "how can retti find this [segment of the iso you admittedly did not pay attention to] scummy? trash reads trash player" is a recipe for frustration and disaster

P-Edit: uhhhh vfp didn't really make conflicting statements, the issue is the over the top indignant theater and deflection of questions into pedantry on

vfp's end

regarding my wording

mmmm

probably would be helpful but my patience today has been thin

which isn't ideal but it is what it is

partially this is due to just very much disliking tetris approach to things myself so I respond in a way to make him annoyed :p

but I'll stop

[Esooa]

I will if you really think it's that important. I read the posts people made about him at the time and remember I disagreed. I don't really have more to say my thoughts aren't exact because I haven't looked again and I read them last night and it wasn't something I particularly cared to remember the specifics of

so that's probably why it seems like I'm misunderstanding it

all I really know is people do dumb stuff when arguing and I wasn't convinced vfps were anything outside that

[Esooa]

maybe I will, part of the reason I also disagree was his wagon composition felt poor but I'll have to give that another look

[Esooa]

I'd rather finish out the day

I'll yell at people to move back to Bell if necessary :p

not actually but you know what I mean

it can't hurt to hear out a replacement though

and get more spew ^^

[Esooa]

let's all trick them into thinking they can live and then fade them anyway so we get maximum spew

[Esooa]

btw that post makes Samantha >rand lost wolf if there is one lol

They are generally referred to traitors and almost always know who their teammates are in practice, on this site.

hmm

maybe it's just me but if I was a lost wolf I would make EXACTLY that post lmao

[Esooa]

that's actually a good point t3

dunn comments on something mechanical and nothing else despite having a lot of juicy posts to comment on

I very much don't like that

[Esooa]

Samantha, you are the same person as from open world, righy?

[Esooa]

okay. I think you're probably town then

[Esooa]

lmao that thx is cute

[Esooa]

gonna be real i'm playing video games tonight instead of reading lol, sorry

what games

[Esooa]

I'm drunk af, can I just drunk post myself clear or do people not trust that enough?

[Esooa]

Drunk clearing yourself is the best

tbh I do it as both alignments lol

[Esooa]

t3 and wheme are legit just paragons of towniness

and vfps recent posting should clear up concerns little like retti had (not enough in depth solving)

I wish rom posted more, where are you ;-; though they're still prolly always town

same with bears

probably a few I'm forgetting but we've got a good town block going already

I still need more comments about vvj or whatever reads though

[Esooa]

oh my god if i signed up for a multiball im gonna lose it lmfao

I fucking hate myself if this is multiball and I'm never signing up for another Maria game I can't believe she conned me into subbing for her

I am mad at the idea

[Esooa]

why are there so many fuckin subs on this site

[Esooa]

it kinda kills my motivation when every single game has 5 replacements

[Esooa]

I still want jjh reads

[Esooa]

VOTE: Robert

[Esooa]

tfw no one mentions my name even though I started the bell wagon

[Esooa]

so what's up

Sorry I haven't been very active this day phase

VOTE: jjh

[Esooa]

I think Sam is spewed by Bell

[Esooa]

it's dunnstral/flea/titus/penguin isn't it

Home sweet home.



OK in seriousness though, I'm curious what the cost of these mask abilities are. I know what mine does, but I don't know the cost that I pay...

do not take this too seriously

But I feel like death is wayyy too much of a cost

That's just kinda a ridiculous and swingy mechanic

I feel like if you have a cop ability it's probably worth trying it?

But idk, cop checks are really strong though

[Esooa]

this is, in reference to the list cop flip

Idk what anyone else has

If you have something like tracker that might not even do anything then meh

But I like, on the other side, I feel like if I had a cop mask, I would definitely put it on

[Esooa]

Oh, because you seem sort of genuine, but also you sound like you're posturing. So I'm super confused.
I guess maybe you're trying not to sound like yourself? I'm inclined to alt guess.

I don't really think 196 is a non-content pop in. If you want my opinion on non-content, I very much enjoy people's shit posts, sometimes even more than their content.

post 196 is from Samantha, and the way Bell talks about it is consistent with the way they talk about townies

[Esooa]

it's not enough to lock town Samantha, but I personally don't really understand the suspicion there, and I think regardless of that it's enough to give her a day pass

[Esooa]

I don't really feel like jjh is scum largely for that titus is just town post tbh

I'm sheeping willow on titus for right now so I'm fine with that slot dying

samantha97 is town imo

tbh I don't even know which of these reads matter I don't know the vote count

oh but I still think t3 is obvious town

[Esooa]

retti is probably town because they could have just gladiatored me? I'm not sold on it though because bell probably always flips next and then retti looks a lot worse

VOTE: titus

[Esooa]

I want to know why Esooa townreads Samantha and how solid this TR is, I think Esooa is pretty locktown on re-read.

I don't have any immediate posts I can remember from them, but an early bell post spews them town imo

a large part of my criticism of bell was based on how he handled people in a way that seemed like he knew they were town, and one of these people was Sam

he called a weird post from Sam towny for no real reason and imo that's almost always him talking about a townie

past that, I've wolfed with Sam and I just don't get the same feels at all

she's actually so different it's possible that the difference is due to us being on mafia scum, when we originally played on MU? I'm not sure

but shrug, it's mostly I don't agree with the problems people have with her that much + think she has good tone and favorable spew

[Esooa]

my question is am I blind or was there no actual bolded part in the quote

Sam seems fine so far.

Sam -> Likes to set up solve. -> Tried to talk about flavor almost immediately.
-> Complained about the pace
-> When content shows up, she's there to talk about it.

I don't know Sam that well, but what's there seems fine.

these are the posts

[Esooa]

Are we positive bell doesn't do that to a partner though? I looked into that earlier but I keep going back and forth on sam is scum by play or sam is town because of bell posts

positive enough I don't want to vote Sam today, at the very least

[Esooa]

Bell suffers from the RedWIM/Noraa tell.

If they ain't here and active, they prolly scumz.

I think rayas been pretty decent

[Esooa]

can someone link me bears t3 read? or explain

maybe I'm just misreading them cause others seem towny to me

but I may also just be recency biased cause I had him almost lock town day 1

[Esooa]

what are peoples reads on flea?

[Esooa]

mmmm okay I'm fine with that

[Esooa]

I'm drunk

[Esooa]

I'm flirting with cute girls

[Esooa]

mmmmmmmmm

fuck, do we need to duel at this point?

[Esooa]

I was going to say I'd kinda rather just kill penguin, Titus doesn't feel that bad to me

[Esooa]

I don't really give a fuck about Penguins Bell vote. Slankers VERY COMMONLY bus, and that's because a mafia slanker doesn't have many ways to get town read besides going after their partners, and as a low poster they're naturally going to be PoE'd so I find they try to distance and such a lot

And I've seen litearlly nothing towny from that slot in any way at all besides the vote so yeah. If there's a vigi just instantly kill that slot tbh

[Esooa]

but considering the duel, VOTE: titus

[Esooa]

I'm fine with voting Titus but if consensus is we should no vote, I don't have qualms with it

[Esooa]

mafia: jjh927, Bell, Retti

town: VFP, Whemestar, Willow, Bamboozle, t3, romance

light town: Raya, bear, Samantha, Flea

ggs

[Esooa]

I dropped off hard day 2 and switched a couple of my correct reads

so yeah

But I'm still happy with how I did plus pulling a n2 kill offsite where no one knows me

This game was fun though

[Esooa]

I dropped off hard day 2 and switched a couple of my correct reads

so yeah

But I'm still happy with how I did plus pulling a n2 kill offsite where no one knows me

This game was fun though

as a full on VT to boot

[Esooa]

Maria-the dead PT is still locked, and I'm a masochist who wants the blame.

She never even added me and she was like "I don't want to bother it has only like 7 posts"

So there's that

[Esooa]

I'm not gonna be playing on this site for a while cause the games are too long and I'm gonna be in champs, I also don't really like the phases tbh, but if anyone here wants to play offsite here's a cop 13er:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 07#p809307

Anyone is welcome to join uwu

[Esooa]

I'm not gonna be playing on this site for a while cause the games are too long and I'm gonna be in champs, I also don't really like the phases tbh, but if anyone here wants to play offsite here's a cop 13er:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 07#p809307

Anyone is welcome to join uwu

the game is 48/24 phases btw

[Esooa]

I'm not gonna be playing on this site for a while cause the games are too long and I'm gonna be in champs, I also don't really like the phases tbh, but if anyone here wants to play offsite here's a cop 13er:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 07#p809307

Anyone is welcome to join uwu

the game is 48/24 phases btw

Where can I find either 72 hrs or 7 days/ 48 hr phases?

That’s why I don’t play on MU, if you have a life, you get sr for it.

there's not many but I could ask for some