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Post Post #5405 (isolation #200) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:45 am

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haha ok sorry
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Post Post #5407 (isolation #201) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:46 am

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All good, I would have lived if it weren't for that CC I'm sure of it
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Post Post #5410 (isolation #202) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:49 am

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I don't want to say too much about it?
But I think it is unlikely that scum does that even to save a buddy as it's about to be proven false
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Post Post #5417 (isolation #203) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:54 am

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Reeval LLD tomorrow please.
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Post Post #5426 (isolation #204) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:59 am

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Because it was on me, this happens all the time to me. Scum tried to push me but have trouble getting it over the edge and then the CW flips scum and I am near conf town.
But this time I got CC'd
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Post Post #5450 (isolation #205) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:36 am

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I still think Wheme is likely town
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Post Post #5458 (isolation #206) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:41 am

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I think scum was split between me and Ircher, both town. I would look for people who moved from Ircher to me if Math does end up being scum
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Post Post #5468 (isolation #207) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:53 am

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I'm always town Bell, you will be right 75% of the time if you stick with that
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Post Post #5483 (isolation #208) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 5482, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay maybe when "targeted by actions" they have to succeed?
This seems unlikely to me, but you all can read it and discuss. Given clarification that was given to me near game start, I guess it is possible
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Post Post #5487 (isolation #209) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:17 am

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In post 5410, MURDERCAT wrote:I don't want to say too much about it?
But I think it is unlikely that scum does that even to save a buddy as it's about to be proven false
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Post Post #7473 (isolation #210) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:35 pm

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GG

Thanks unwnd for modding
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Post Post #7533 (isolation #211) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:17 am

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In post 138, Toogeloo wrote:unwnd is totally stoned face for this. I joked if I should roll a d20 for a skill check on my night action... Didn't even get a "lol" out of them.

Anyways. I have a pretty questionable innate action, and even more questionably use SP skill.

My innate skill is I can check people's current HP. I checked Save The Dragons last night (random.org). They have 3 HP. Comparatively, I have 5 HP.

My other ability, which costs 2 SP is to check a target and see if they are using SP as well the same night. I didn't use it last night.

My "class," is called Sovereign. I'm royalty or something.
In post 138, Toogeloo wrote:
Spoiler: Toogeloo was..
Sovereign -
Those of royal blood from kingdoms large and small. Their orders raise morale to turn the tide.

--
You are
TOWN
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HP: 5
ATK: 1

Staff (Innate) [Damaging] - Choose a target. That target will be hit for 1 damage.

Negotiation (Innate) [Active] - Choose a target. You will learn how much current HP they have.

Royal Lineage (2 SP) [Active] - Choose a target. You will learn if they have spent SP the previous stratum or not.
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Post Post #7534 (isolation #212) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:18 am

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Spoiler: mastina
In post 369, unwnd wrote:After talking it through with listmods, I (under the guidance of listmods) have decided to modkill mastina. I may have made a grevious mistake not clarifying that you
cannot quote verbatim
from your role PM. This should be a sacred rule that everyone clearly understands. I do not want to run games like this and have people not respect MS tradition. I will be adding this rule explictly in the OP just so nobody tries this again. I do not want to be harsh, but I have a game to maintain.

--

I would like to carefully go over the offenses with you:

Here is mastina's claim.
My non-SP ability is Charm Eye. I target a player and they are Charmed. (No clue what Charmed means, my role PM doesn't specify.)
Charming counts as a form of marking.
(And is the only form of marking I have.)

My 1-SP ability is Chain Circle. I
bind the target, negating all support done to them--
useful for the town if I target scum, but harmful to the town if I target town, because it's by my understanding basically negating buffs to the target. Preventing scum buffs pro-town, preventing town buffs anti-town.

My 2-SP ability is Nerve Circle. I
ensnare my target in a circle--anyone targeting that player takes 2 HP in damage.
This basically turns my target into a form of PGO. Incredibly pro-town if I target a player scum target as it damages scum. Incredibly anti-town if I target a player town target.

My 3-SP ability is Curse Circle. I curse my target to be
unable to be healed by utility abilities.
Again, incredibly pro-town if I target scum to stop them from healing, but incredibly anti-town if I target town to stop them from healing.

My fourth ability, Dispel, 2-SP, is dispelling the curse circle. Doing so heals me for 2 HP.

My passive, Enlightenment, makes me gain 1 SP every time I successfully mark someone.

I win when I mark 5 players.
(Which means had I gotten a N0 action in I could've won on D5 but now it's pushed back to D6 at the earliest.)
A target doesn't need to be alive to count.
So basically if nothing causes my marks to fail I automatically would win on D6 if I got five marks off.
Now here is Mastina's role PM. I have omitted any other information that she did not claim, just for security purposes.

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Now let me show you how Mastina could've claimed her abilities without verbatim, just as an extra exercise:
I have 5 abilities. They are Charm Eye, Chain Circle, Nerve Circle, Curse Circle, and Dispel. I also have a Passive that lets me gain SP when I mark them. I have to mark a few people (about 5) in order to achieve my wincon.

My Charm Eye does the mark thing which I need to do in order to achieve my wincon.

My other ability is Chain Circle, I can 'bind' someone and that will make support not work on them? Not sure what support means here but I'm just paraphrasing.

My Nerve Circle works where I cast a spell on them so they can't be healed anymore. Could be pro-town?

My Dispel heals me based on my curse circle, so if I target someone with Curse Circle I could heal off of it instead.
Done. Finished. Perfectly reasonable.
Do not quote verbatim.
Be creative in your claims and be considerate of me and everyone else. I do not know if mastina meant to be disrespectful, but I personally took offense by this.

Mastina has been converted to independent survivor and has suffered a fatal heart attack.
The day will resume soon.

Do not discuss this event. Move on as if it never happened. Thank you.
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Post Post #7535 (isolation #213) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:19 am

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I don't really think these compare and I agreed with the modkill
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Post Post #7537 (isolation #214) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:25 am

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You have to have consistent rules, you can't decide whether or not to apply them based on gamestate as
that
can easily have an outside influence on the game. It's why the appearance of breaking a rule is treated the same as actually breaking a rule.
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Post Post #7545 (isolation #215) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:35 am

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I think it's actually pretty clear, don't have multiple word phrases in your claim that come directly from your role pm and definitely don't do that multiple times.
I felt the need to make sure unwnd knew that at least I thought the decision was reasonable, but I agree with Bell that this probably isn't worth discussing further here.
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