Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[cyrus62]

Cyrus do you scumread jjh?

no i just dislike him.

[cyrus62]

so far i have played 10 games . only one game was i town read. in that game i was scum . so some how when i am scum im more believable as town . but when im town im always scum read.

[cyrus62]

Town have to actually try to determine whether someone is town or scum and come to believe either way at various points in the game

Scum have to pretend they have a read on someone who they actually know is town

I believe Cyrus' play has been a failed attempt at the latter. He knows I am town. He does not actually believe the arguments he has made.

this is super bs and why nm should check him.

[cyrus62]

I am basically the only player who has pushed you

Most of the players in this game townread you for some reason

that's a relief maybe my town play has improved. my scum play hasn't that's for sure but cant talk about it yet due to on going games.

[cyrus62]

Also, I thought you disliked meta arguments

that is why. i dont my meta is ever changing im trying to improve.

[cyrus62]

i did good as scum one time. once i had found both prs on day1. i was doing good but i was doing it solo due to my partner replacing out. and then i had to wait 27 days for day2 to end .

[cyrus62]

so day1 on this game i manage to get a miselim. and took out the doc i was blocking the cop and moving to get them elim. but day 2 wouldn't end due to a pause.

[cyrus62]

crossroads ended 2 years ago.

[cyrus62]

you see house is driving mislynchs. and you lot follow him. i'll make this easy put me to l1 i'll hammer if you guys lynch house when i flip town

[cyrus62]

When a town player makes fallacious arguments based on their own flawed understanding of the game, their thought process is at least coherent if you understand the mistakes they have made along the way

That's just not the case for Cyrus here- I think it's pretty clear that most of what he says is whatever he thinks is convenient for him to say at any given time based on his interpretation of the gamestate

can you make that shorter so i have a new sig.

[cyrus62]

Maybe in the postgame since you can't sig things until after the game anyway

thanks

[cyrus62]

Oh, there was only a minute between the unvotes.

I thought it was longer.

Never mind that.

yea i unvoted becuse how hungry nm was to hammmer there and nsg askd us not to.

[cyrus62]

also i had said i wasnt going to hammer or vote nk . before hand but my read was wrong on them.

[cyrus62]

Idk... if Titus is scum, I don't see it.

Like, I won't WK her, but I don't see myself voting her.

that was my stance on nk. i wont discredit you if she flips scum or the rest if she flips town. we make mistakes . that is why i askd nm to check you. lmao maybe we should just vote no untill nm checks enough. people jokeing joke i do that sometimes.

[cyrus62]

Titus
House
DrippingGoofball
Not_Mafia
Gamma Emerald
mastina
cyrus62

PoE votable wagons.

Moongrass
jjh927

Left out:
Mia and Maya Fey (need to cogitate on this)

nm needs to clear mia i cant read them maybe its because its two people.

[cyrus62]

huh

[cyrus62]

can we not keep doing useless quotes just talk gee. if house wants jjh im up for it. but note to mia and house . the way you two are talking worrys me . nm check mia or house okay.

[cyrus62]

i smell a mislynch. but what whatever . the stump wants titus.

[cyrus62]

the house and mia stoped odd.

[cyrus62]

house day1 i get it we both . hoped off the wagon but answer me this . why are you still living. you were lock town from the start . i know why im alive im a easy mislynch. but why are you? either scum think they pocketed you or you are one . but i would like to know why from you house?

[cyrus62]

house day1 i get it we both . hoped off the wagon but answer me this . why are you still living. you were lock town from the start . i know why im alive im a easy mislynch. but why are you? either scum think they pocketed you or you are one . but i would like to know why from you house?

???????

[cyrus62]

house day1 i get it we both . hoped off the wagon but answer me this . why are you still living. you were lock town from the start . i know why im alive im a easy mislynch. but why are you? either scum think they pocketed you or you are one . but i would like to know why from you house?

Moon thought they had me pocketed, of course.

Dude, look how hard they've been buddying me since the start of the game.

When I suspected them on d1, they OMGUSed me, but when I stopped suspecting them, all of a sudden I was town and we were besties again.

Seriously, look at the interactions between Moon and I.

and your mislynch yesterday?

[cyrus62]

i smell a mislynch. but what whatever . the stump wants titus.

I think Titus is a probable miselim, I don’t care what the stumps think.

play to your win . scum points here

[cyrus62]

Fine I want jjh head as a candy dish. Bet scum reads this and kills jjh for me but I'll vote. Moon. But nm better clear house if moon flips town. Like I said scum will read this and try to frame me lol.[vote VOTE: moonlanding lol

[cyrus62]

my vote dont count lol I rather him check either me,house or jjh

[cyrus62]

I voted for moonlanding not Moongrass lol @jingle

[cyrus62]

see I'll bet 100 scum bucks moon flips town whos willing to take the bet

[cyrus62]

take the bet house unless you're scared

[cyrus62]

and I care why. I'm going by my gut. Take the bet.

[cyrus62]

Its not a real bet I said scum bucks but will stop it

[cyrus62]

Look this is a bunch of pointed fingers

Funny thing about pointed fingers.

When you point a finger, you have one pointed up.

And three pointed back at you.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: titus I feel better here but who knows

maybe house and moon are piting town agenst each other

[cyrus62]

You need to reread what I said

[cyrus62]

Lol house reread what i said.

[cyrus62]

Lol house reread what i said.

[cyrus62]

starting to feel more like moon and jjh

[cyrus62]

starting to feel more like moon and jjh

Do you have a specific reason for that?

the way he is hard core white knighting for moon. makes me sus

[cyrus62]

Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game

most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.

[cyrus62]

Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game

most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.

Where do you get that it was "led" by me?

I wasn't even the first one on the wagon.

you made the gambit, you also push hard on it on day one. you basically kepth pushing fmft . untill the were elim.

[cyrus62]

i dislike being called a bad player. im here to just have fun. so i come off wired but normally im just making guises.

[cyrus62]

so should we tar and feather house or what?

[cyrus62]

so since we "know" gramma and nm and mastina are "town" along with dpg maybe we should let them lead the wagon or the push today.

[cyrus62]

My main drive here remains that i think Titus is scum because of their play, meta, interactions around confirmed scum, PoE. And nothing has really convinced me to lay off that. So House is also scummy for trying to keep the votes away from Titus.

This is very much a pride read. After I flip town, you should reconsider your reads entirely. If you reach the same conclusions, fine. We'll likely lose though because you have stopped hunting half the game.

It's your job as a stump to question everything and get the best out of everyone. You are failing at that because of your stubbornness.

To be fair you're doing better than NSG who isn't even here.

I wish DGB could come back as well. DGB is confirmed town and correctly townreading me. I would humbly request you two have a conversation.

You are also townreading the hydra who you argue is conftown. They townread me too.

these could be pockets . but tell me why the no vote on nk?

[cyrus62]

Vote Count 2.FINAL

Free Money Free Tea (6):

Moongrass, Titus, House, mastina, Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia,

Titus (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

House (1):

cyrus62,

Moongrass (0):

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

jjh927 (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (3):

DrippingGoofball, jjh927, Mia and Maya Fey,

With 11 alive, it takes

6

to euphemize and

6

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-06-24 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Free Money Free Tea has been made into a Euphemism Day 2.

He was:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Town

so you didnt vote nk and you were the 2nd on fmft . i find it very hard to trust you.

[cyrus62]

these could be pockets

Also DGB cannot be pocketing me. They're conftown.

you see one thing about the way i talk that helps me is . people mis understand. i didnt say they pocketed you . i meant you pocketed them.

[cyrus62]

i didnt join the mislynch wagon because i didnt feel fmft was scummy. i jumped off nk because nsg asked someone to do so.

[cyrus62]

lol sorry im not a pokemon you cant fit me in your pocket. @titus

[cyrus62]

lol sorry im not a pokemon you cant fit me in your pocket. @titus

Pokemon aren't the only thing that go in pockets.

Seriously though, I am not trying to pocket anyone. I want open discussions. If you scumread me after that, so be it.

Btw, the way jjh is talking with me, he's moved dramatically up in my reads.

i told you d1 i have 5 poe . you are one of them and nm has removed the others. but still house , moon,jjh and titus remain .

[cyrus62]

my poe was every one who was off the nk wagon and i made it before the flip so with that said moon isnt a poe.

[cyrus62]

sideing with jjh makes me sick so i am unvoting titus.

[cyrus62]

UNVOTE: titus

[cyrus62]

VOTE: moon i disagree with jjh reads. so sue me.

[cyrus62]

bring it but this will prove that jjh is scum like i thought maybe with titus moon or house.

[cyrus62]

bring it but this will prove that jjh is scum like i thought maybe with titus moon or house.

Do you mean your flip? Your flip will prove that I am scum? Like you thought with. . . *checks notes* literally every player in the current POE other than you?

every player i said i have 5 . day one. day 2 one of the 5 was removed as town by a flip day 3 another was removed due to nm i had to remove ne. naa forget this i will just find my poe and show you where i sit

[cyrus62]

Sorry, I'm not likely to be on today.

X post all games.

titus i am exasperating alot more from you after seeing that i have the game down to 5 people as possible scum.

Which are?

titus, nk15, nm, moon and gamma.

heres who i wll focus on day2 minus gamma

so if i remove gramma and nm who do i have left , titus and moon

[cyrus62]

titus started pushing me after i refused to side with her but the funny thing im voting moon lmao.

[cyrus62]

yep so theres your scum team moon and titus. both frail and push for easy lynch . hears a hint and warning to all n. im not afraid to self hammer

[cyrus62]

so if you push me to try to advance reads it wont work. and fyi i dont care if its anti town or not i have bleed town this game so lack of trust warrents a town lost.

[cyrus62]

not advanceing my reads i havent pushed gramma mistina or nm in two days

[cyrus62]

Cyrus, how can town lose here?

by folling your lead.

[cyrus62]

wow and you gus think this comes from town?

[cyrus62]

can you lot just elim me i anit playing this gane with this lead. VOTE: titus

[cyrus62]

unlee titus is scum

[cyrus62]

Well if commuting was all they had then surely they wouldn't have let NK die so easily?

That is a problem, which changes the VCA a bit but still points a nice arrow to Cyrus.

sure i told you lot i been doing my best to help town. now i am getting fed up with the shade. if you want a miselim vote me . however i wont sit here and let titus try to get town points for it. titus wanted a miselm yesterday and got it . titus didnt vote nk and they flip scum. titus is trying to lead town to a lost.

[cyrus62]

my poe is titus jjh and moon.

[cyrus62]

my poe is titus jjh and moon.

Why is House not part of your PoE when he's been protecting me so hard?
Who should not mafia target tonight provided we lynch town and he is a weak hider?

house action on night one shows me he hoped off the wagon just as nsg askd some one to. you dont have that excuse.

[cyrus62]

Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why

i hate that slot i cant pin a read on it to save my life.

[cyrus62]

Good game

[cyrus62]

Wait you think I would be a good stump?

[cyrus62]

oh i would have so much fun as strump people would get so angry.