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DkKoba They/ThemSurvivorThey/Them
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like pooky *does* do strategy but by no means does he try to coach his scumbuds ever:
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there's a specific game im looking for - i'll find it eventuallyretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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In post 5744, MathBlade wrote:Koba it doesn’t have yours.
Remind me your night actions
I know it’s in your ISO but that’s a mile long
n1- evolve from sturdy phanpy(1 shot BP) -> donphan (earthquake, delayed rolestopper blah blah)
n2 - self target
n3- cant act
n4 - mathblade
n5- cant act
n6- sircakez
n7- cant actretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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>.>In post 5749, MathBlade wrote:
Please type the blah blah outIn post 5746, DkKoba wrote:In post 5744, MathBlade wrote:Koba it doesn’t have yours.
Remind me your night actions
I know it’s in your ISO but that’s a mile long
n1- evolve from sturdy phanpy(1 shot BP) -> donphan (earthquake, delayed rolestopper blah blah)
n2 - self target - mastina rolestopped me
n3- cant act
n4 - mathblade - gamma rolestopped you
n5- cant act
n6- sircakez -no interference
n7- cant act
ive literally said it like several times
but excellent that the 2 clears left alive are people who litearlly are proven to not have been keeping up with the game at all
nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper - whoever i target, anyone targeting said person will get roleblocked the following day
i tinfoiled mastina earlier beacuse i realized - what if mastina *did* target me and then tried to do a nightkill and then failed but i realized that the last scum likely is a rolecop so thats unreasonableretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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mastina is sudowoodo which has no evolutionretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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honestly idk why gamma targeted mastina n1 if town like a cop could have been on her
tbh idk wtf gamma was doing this game LMFAOretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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In post 1606, DkKoba wrote:j think i voted alex as omgus bc omgusing has done me well recently :3In post 1609, DkKoba wrote:oh lmao i omgused the kyouko read :3 yeah i am sure of kyouko town so i will push anyone pushing kyouko until i see better pathsIn post 2370, DkKoba wrote:Dwlee - you may have been role blocked. Just reread public infi and evolving is blockableIn post 2375, Dwlee99 wrote:
No that's not why I think you're BSingIn post 2370, DkKoba wrote:Dwlee - you may have been role blocked. Just reread public infi and evolving is blockableIn post 2376, DkKoba wrote:?? Ok well im basically claimed doc atp so i resolve anyways.In post 2377, Dwlee99 wrote:MmmmIn post 2378, DkKoba wrote:Evolution baybeeIn post 2379, DkKoba wrote:Dwlee if you're also a protective i suggest you stop broadcasting it to everyone
im just gonna start quoting posts that IMO are like indicative of me being town until i brute force the point across to cakez and then i expect an apology post gameIn post 2380, Dwlee99 wrote:
You expect so little of meIn post 2379, DkKoba wrote:Dwlee if you're also a protective i suggest you stop broadcasting it to everyoneretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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oh shit feel better!!In post 5760, Titus wrote:Now, I need bed. The only reason I am awake right now is because of brain trauma.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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i just realized rereading titus' iso for why she might have died - she was the clear most keen on me being town l m f a o
also i did not even bring it up the previous dayphase so no - the plausibility of me doing it for that is bad esp since i received pressure and if im scum im saying that under duressretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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(if im scum whos wifoming)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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In post 4973, DkKoba wrote:i was waiting and seeing if chow would put in any sort of effort but it seems like they are just defeated scum
also if this is game over i preemptively admit i was a giant clown this game
btw yes i definitely didnt give chow a chance and shoved an elim throuhg yepIn post 4974, DkKoba wrote:mostly directing that @ wisdom and @gamma
(but also gamma did some mechanical clowning )retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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cakez was on my ass that day as was math so please pipe down and provide proof before you say foolish thingsIn post 5765, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why would you bring it up the previous day phase when you're not even under pressure?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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VOTE: pooky
honestly dont care i legacy scumread this
@mastina @mathblade @sircakez
dont fuck up limlo because of your ego
yall are the biggest offenders in this department and dont let an analysisless pooky slide by
i need fucking sleep.
i have stayed up well past my bedtime for this game.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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if you think imaginality who sees the writing on the wall isnt anti-spewing his partners potentially get realIn post 5769, mastina wrote:
The no kill was almost assuredly scum targeting TIL in an attempt to stop the innocent on MathBlade from going through.In post 5589, DkKoba wrote:and we never solved where the nokill came from
However, I will admit that it's at leastpossiblethat it was Pooky stopped from killing--that's why my order is Milobird->Pooky here, because I think that just wins us the game.
I agree that they look town from it.In post 5592, DkKoba wrote:@mastina i dont care how confident u are on milo scum because if you actually read my exchange with milo d7 you would see that they are town
So do you, so does Pooky, and so do I, and yet one of us has to be scum in spite of all being town.
In the battle of most town to least town, Pooky and Milobird are bottom two.
Gee if only someone had spent literally 3 fucking hours compiling all the night actions in the game. Wouldn't that be so helpful? Too bad nobody did that.In post 5614, Milobird wrote:Nono, I mean like, all of the night actions so we can eliminate all the possibilities.
OH WAIT.
Not one, but TWO players did so!
You fucking speedlimmed one and are pushing for the elimination of the other.I need to update this a little bit into a 3.0 version, but ^^^that is 98.5% accurate.Spoiler: Complete list of night actions, by player
you should be able to consider that not conclusive at that point - show me where imaginality supposedly spews pooky town where he isnt in duress
because he calls gypyx and ralts scum and then ends up on a 3rd person who ended up flipping town iircretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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ok i fucked up my quote but whateverretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Who does koba kill?In post 5809, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also mastina kills mathblade like 999 times out of 1000 lolretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Cakez, famous hardcore tunneler who doesnt change his mind, is 100% going to change his mind here when hes been voting me all game. I dont kill that as scum lolIn post 5813, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:kill a man who suspects you, you might make more enemies
keep them alive and they get worried and maybe change their minds.
plus you get to use it as part of your defense strategy.
Yes very good theory pookyretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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no pooky thats unreasonable and only players like math and cakez would believe i would ever do thatretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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people forget legacy reads - wisdom scumread you pooky - and no one except me is calling for your head here.
Your theory sucks because i know this myself that im one of very few who subscribe to NKAretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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No i kill people who will likely be voting me.
Even if they arent yet.
Honestly cakez u are bad at sorting in hoods if this is a pooky you townreadretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I have certain common themes like always coaching partners into not making dumb mistakesretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Wait i replaced in on d1 LOL theres no way i let gypyx play so bad the rest of d1 LOOL
Notice after i replace in theres no shift in behavior from flipped scum
This would be present with me replacing into a scum slot Hhaabahaha
finding new objective reasons why im town is epicretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Pooky desperate to get me limmed over him so he can just abuse mastina vs milo lmOIn post 5825, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yoinkretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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Yes koba famous manipulator of cakezIn post 5834, SirCakez wrote:if Koba is scum here the reason I'm still alive is they think they can manipulate me like they've done the past three days it's not rocket scienceretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Hey cakez, minus the vig choice- what do you think pooky as scum would do? Does it match his play here?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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ok im home and im typing up a giant google doc
here goesretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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like 10 posts in and
doi really post this much holy shitretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Koba attempts to go through the reasoning around all their posts - lets fking go:
1503: OK LMAO SO I was literaly like trying to pretend i had a different pokemon by saying the cute thing bc i think phanpy is ugly as shit. I remember now LOL also yes i did most def read the game and determine kyouko to be town and that influenced my choice to replace in, so basically NAI atp - i did only read like 5 posts tho here
1505: i did glance and see a wagon on kyouko and i was gearing up to push anyone pushing kyouko here
1506: yes i was excited to post in the game scum me fr woulda chilled in scum pt first and waited for confirmation and not just go all in.
1508/1510: drunk posts lmao
1512: honestly have a somewhat personal dislike for fire so i decided to grill them first seeing them having voted kyouko (or at least believing so, i mean i clearly said “why is kyouko mafia for a reason, btw doing this ISO thread blind to make sure there is authenticity)
1514: hell yeah brother u go crossfaded koba
1516: ok i genuinely thought it was day 2 here bc of the page count LMAO (thats called a township for the people in the back of the class, I see you there cakez)
1517: townslip realized
1524: ok like when playing role madness games with flavor specific roles in the past there have been many many times where scum have a soupkill mechanic that lets them kill by matching flavor and thus flavor claiming is discouraged. Here i havnet bothered reading the OP but also am genuinely paranoid of this. Also was setup speccing that moves might be able to affect others better - as i did not have an actual move based role i had no idea what moves would do over an ability which i had (sturdy)
1525 yes this is true i read 5 posts from kyouko’s iso xD
1526: this was off the back of kyouko being scum in a recent game with me and i had to bury her really hard on d1 so i was relieved not to have to push her here xD
1528: haha shea boomer
1531: i was full on LYING in this post LOL - I also crumbed my BPV here too. The “certain conditions” was the BPV being burned. I was already determined to evolve n1.
1549: kyouko is basically locktown here atp and the way gamma was trying to bury her was like so bad. My strategy was to just omgus people pushing kyouko still atp as I felt i would catch scum that way.
1598: dwlee jinxed me as scum >:( also this is not a SvS interaction smh my head
1605: someone accused me of being drunk still and i had to correct the record
1606: oh hey what i said earlier about omgus is now confirmed by past koba saying it was omgus except in my head i had kyouko as locktown there so i adlibbed that it was myself
1609: continuation of the above post, I was deep into this strategy at the time because iwas sure this wagon was scum and i *believe* i thought it meant woolax wagon was scum but i cant remember what i was doing with woolax because i was not paying attention to that much at the time
1610: lol i wanted to emotionally prod gamma to get them to alignment tell better bc they effort better when mad usually
1628: above is the explanation to this lol. I do think i was holding onto a wisdom scumread atp.
1651: i was now shifting focus to the woolax wagon i was ignoring and wanted to probe nancy abt it
1645: kyouko locktown(real)
1665: i was about to pivot onto wisdom which is seen in the following post
1671: i got impatient because several hours passed without much content lol
1672: honestly i exaggerated this bc i wanted them to feel pressure and like - i really wanted to find scum on kyouko wagon
1673: explanation of the thoughts of the above post. Shit past koba you just love to explain your thoughts in real time. But no progression huh xD
1674: clown koba reads were pulling up with a possible gamma/wisdom pairing and though gamma was bussing here
1679: i believed woolax was scum at this point - i did not believe it because i wanted to make the wagons i start feel viable as id have the power to dismantle them whenever i wanted to. This is a common tactic i employ when theres a consensus lim thats likely to be scum.
1680: clown koba take noooo but yes i though wisdom was trying to derail the woolax wagon and be subtle about avoiding it here, which i bring up later
1682: i genuinely dont remember what i saw from wisdom which is a sign i was just turbo tunneled onto wisdom lol
1683: this i do remember that wisdom’s takes were pretty simple at the time and i was very suspicious of that as thats how i default scumhunt on d1 is to look at post depth
1684: i was agreeing with the wisdom TMI thing here as i thought wisdom’s read on a few slots including mine was TMI
1688: hey look koba is trying to solve the game also i was townreading nancy at the time which was why i had the woolax scumread locked
1689: more bp softs :3 i was 100% evolving at that point and didnt want to be targeted for a kill also it was twlight at this point i believe so i really wanted to solve just in case i *was* targeted for a kill
ok i like tried to but im tired and i am going to my bf's house and i will continue later but heres d1 up to the hammer at leastretired
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"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Based on what?In post 5849, MathBlade wrote:
Doubt it.In post 5847, Titus wrote:
@Pooky, Cakez, mastina and MathIn post 5837, Titus wrote:
Does imaginality really hard bus everyone here?In post 847, imaginality wrote:Oh cool add Dwlee99 to Gypyx and Ralts on the pile of "scum shiftily sniffing for stuff to stir up so as to subtly scatter some sneaky suspicion on seemingly stand-up citizens"retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Yeah?In post 1589, imaginality wrote:SirCakez is scummy for stuff like:ssbm is towny for stuff like post 1405, though I disagree that
post 1411 is a good reason to drop her scum read on Gypyx.
Dwlee99 is suspicious for stuff like:
Milobird is scummy for stuff like the end of #1425 where after casting doubt on STD the post ends with:In post 1407, Dwlee99 wrote:Anyone trying to push someone being what they think is wrong should stop re: whatever the mastina convo is
Mastina explained her wagon vs players contradiction superficially reasonably:In post 1425, Milobird wrote:
That said, I'm pretty disinterested in this line of conversation, it's old.
-Bell
What I don't like about this though, is she didn't try to resolve it or dig deeper into it. She just threw the read out there. And my impression of mastina's town play from OMB is she likes to be very analytical and over think things, so I feel like for her to not analyse that contradiction goes against that. Because I don't believe she didn't notice it.In post 1452, mastina wrote:
Because it didn't.In post 1351, imaginality wrote:Why didn't the Brain Cell wagon give you scum vibes when more of your scum reads are (or were, I'm not sure the current vote count) on that?
Vibes of a wagon are separate from reads on players.
You can have a vibe of a wagon being shitty in spite of thinking the names look good;
You can get a lack of a vibe on a wagon in spite of scumreading the names on it.
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The two are entirely different concepts.
Someone asked me about my view on Sharing the Brain Cell. I've reread them in iso and I definitely am of the view they're town.
On Wisdom I feel like he's slightly less hmm concise in this game? But I don't think he's doing anything scummy. Just feel like I want to watch that space.
My reads:
Town:
ssbm
TSQ(DrKoba)
Sharing the Brain Cell
Ralts
Townish:
SleepyKrew
T3
Null in a no pings but not a strong town read way:
Firebringer
Kitty Trauma Team
chowchow
Save the Dragons
Null but a tad more dubious than the other bunch of nulls:
Alexandrite
Wisdom
WhemeStar
The Goat
Woolax
Scummy:
Milobird
Dwlee99
Gypyx
SirCakez
mastina
I think the lim today should be among the bottom five. I'd consider the five above also. I don't see myself voting anyone higher in my reads than that.retired
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"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Also do u think the person who hellbussed 3 confirmed partners isnt going to do the 4th? Lolretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Ask yourself why is imaginality pushing for pooky here so hard while they're under heavy heat
answer: antispew
Like seriously *please* lim pooky this game - his only argument for being town is literally letting cakez vig his partner and thats it and thats still not completely removing viability for pooky being townretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Pooky being scum*retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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pooky->mastinaretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I'm *very* sure of milo townretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Why?.In post 5892, Titus wrote:I'm not willing to vote Pooky today.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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@cakez does your vig rely on you BOTH being alive btw?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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miloretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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when math is 0/2retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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why dont you ask me the answers to the questions you have here towards me huh?In post 5900, mastina wrote:So I was thinking about the game last night (by which I mean, I literally was brainstorming this game in my sleep and it continued into this morning; I literally woke up this morning due to a potential breakthrough) and while I second-guessed a lot of my thoughts. "Pooky has to be clear", "Milo might be clear", sometimes the opposites, etc.
But ultimately, while I continue to have second-guessing going on, it led me to overall this:
VOTE: DKKoba
From play-wise it's a mess but mechanically-speaking, the thought I had was that Pooky basically can't be scum mechanically.
Now, granted!
What I really would like is if we had a Pokemon flavor expert around--the scum have fakeclaims. Which means that there are scum pokemon that are, flavor-wise, scumclaims and cannot be truthfully claimed. In other words, the pokemon are definitely scum pokemon.
...But the inverse should be true as well. If there are pokemon that are definitely 100% scum pokemon, then it figures that there are pokemon that are definitely 100% town pokemon. And while scum have safeclaims so it's hard to tell if a claimed pokemon is real, in the case of Pooky, there really is only one pokemon he realistically could be.
I should probably double-check any/all scum's isos to see how many of them claimed and what they claimed to see how closely their fakeclaims match their real role, but I'm fairly certain that Pooky, mechanically, is basically a mason here.
In terms of certainty, I'd say ~75% here is what I mean by "fairly certain". It's not a surefire thing, because I've not done the research to confirm it. But if it is, then that'd narrow the pool down to Milobird and DKKoba.
Milobird's role is possible to be scum or a scum fakeclaim, especially if the mod error was "you're not multitasking so you shouldn't have gotten a result while killing", but the nature of the mod error makes it slightly more likely to be town in my opinion. It's not as surefire of a thing, but there was more that tipped me in the scales here; small inconsistencies in DKKoba's claim.
Now, granted. Said inconsistencies are really really small, probably nitpicking, and I can think of reasonable justifications for them. But I've been giving those justifications for them without giving any thought to the other explanation (that the inconsistencies are due to the claim not being from town).
DKKoba allegedly thought that they stopped the scum kill N3 from the scum targeting them N2--but how would DKKoba have thought that? DKKoba wasn't targeted by the scum kill, and even if they were, they'd have died from the scum nightkill on N2 right then and there.
Keep in mind also that scum are not multitasking by default--so what scum would target DKKoba N2 and then forgo their night action N3 to do a nightkill? I can't really think of any aside from knowing one it cannot be; a scum rolecop would know not to make the attempt.
Then there's the decision to self-target N2 anyway. At the time of N2, we had Firebringer claimed as an investigative, SirCakez as a claimed innocent, and Dwlee as basically a hard-claimed protective role (now granted, Dwlee was scum, but if DKKoba was town, they wouldn't have known DKKoba was scum).
Not wanting to roleblock a protective role is maybe excusable, but ironically, not protecting Dwlee actually feels like scum knowledge. (Granted, this is perhaps biased by my thought process. *I* protected the claimed protective role for basically the reason I am outlining; I didn't want to double-up on protecting a slot.) Why the self-target when DKKoba already discarded their self-protect in order to evolve in the first place? If DKKoba wanted to eat up scum night actions, they didn't need to evolve and do so with their new role.
The other inconsistency has to do with their view on protecting players. Yesterday, they said they couldn't stop kills anymore, but there was in fact a way for that to happen. Today, they said they CAN, but while it's theoretically possible, it'd require the scum to basically gamethrow. Per DKKoba's claim of being unable to target the same player twice in a row, and per DKKoba's last protection having been SirCakez, SirCakez is wide open for the scum. (I didn't want to say this while not wanting to eliminate DKKoba because obviously, spelling out the route scum take to get the best nightkills isn't a good idea because if the scum didn't figure it out, they could still be caught by it.)
The route for us getting another killstop was actually the scum killing SirCakez last night, as that'd mean DKKoba could protect either Malakittens or MathBlade tonight, but that didn't happen. The scum took the route that would guarantee the kill could succeed. Now, that doesn't hard-implicate DKKoba as it could be scum respecting the chance for a stopped kill, but...
Overall I think this is the correct move.
There IS an asterisks to this, obviously. Which I intend to investigate. (That being, interactions. Such as with Dwlee actually.)
So I'm not going to push through a DKKoba elimination yet.
But I'll move my vote there.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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now i fully understand why chow self voted tbhretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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mastina fucking promise me you dont fucking vote milo
i swear to fucking god
vote pooky
i dont RFUCKING give a fuck if you think milo is scum
vote fucking pooky
cakez maths and mastina's case for pooky being town all suck ass
sorry
it has to be said
"hurr durr pooky chose to shoot scum"
ok and what fucking else did he do
nothing
but happily sheep every wagon
Firebringer thought he was scum tho
guess what happened to firebringer
died next night
i said i wasnt going on firebringer btw
very explicitly
so if you wanna blame me f uretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i thought i stopped scum kill because i thought scum roleblocked me
if any of you have any ounce of respect you'd honor my fucking milo townread.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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also yes i can fucking stop a scum kill mastina
maybe read my fucking role claim better
you didnt read it correctly
which also corroborates the fact you didnt read anything i said correctly so lmfaoretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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im so done with people.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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why do i even giving a fuck in games when this is what happens half the time lmfao
and any poinst that say im town are all wifom
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koba never town koba always wifom
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always wifom everyone look!! koba wifom!!! koba always does stupid move as scum because koba always wifom!! cant townread koba thats too easy gotta say wifom lolzzzz
none of u should be allowed to use that word after this game btw.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i want a colective promise to fucking vote pooky next day phase
yall cant even fucking towncase him without pointing to the vig shot or like some stupid flavor argument
those are the *only* 2 pointsretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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zomg koba keeps alive all the poeple that scumread them xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD xDDDDDDDDDDDD XXDDDDDDXDXDXDXDXDXDD XDSXDXDXDretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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@mod v/la weekend
i need a break.
if im limmed while im gone
fucking vote pooky
@cakez that is addressed to you, #1 pooky defender who is so deep in pooky's pocket, it echos when you yell into it.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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all pooky literally has said about me this whole fucking dayphase is "zomg koba scum haha koba has to be scum xDD"
and yall are like *nodding* and not even thinking about "what if pooky is scum here"
and its fucking embarassing like am i the only player here who reevals based on what people say in lategame instead of locking myself in like a bot?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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btw mastina u can join the hall of fame of people who read into my night action choice that is claimed and think it is a scumclaim club just because u "disagree": https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... ead#unread
here's an ice game
ISO michelle and tutuu and watch how they throw the ridiculous reasoning around my night actions at me because i said "lol i targeted a 3p read from the clear because i was too busy to reread"
( i had actually ended up targeting scum)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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these are the types of reads that mastina/cakez/math are making against me btwretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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mostly aimed at mastina bc it matches the way they are confident in their scumcase for shit that isnt even scummyretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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(yeah i was town in that screenshot)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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am i e-1 i dont want to play in this game and fight anymore i just want to be sheeped on pooky please
im done as fuck
actually fuck it
VOTE: DkKoba
i dont care.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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if you guys disrespect my legacy you have only yourselves to blame for losing to an obvious fucking trolling scum who did 1 thing and is being easily townread off that.
milo and mastina have put in massive work and put in a lot of effort into how theyre reading the game
im not in the mood to argue anymore with people who think they know better about how i play and how pooky plays when clearly they are proven to not even be fully up to date with what has gone on this game.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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post of the game btw (::In post 5912, DkKoba wrote:why do i even giving a fuck in games when this is what happens half the time lmfao
and any poinst that say im town are all wifom
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koba never town koba always wifom
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always wifom everyone look!! koba wifom!!! koba always does stupid move as scum because koba always wifom!! cant townread koba thats too easy gotta say wifom lolzzzz
none of u should be allowed to use that word after this game btw.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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In post 5559, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:roflIn post 5560, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its just koba rightIn post 5566, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its just koba lolIn post 5568, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok good talkIn post 5570, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol whatIn post 5573, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i asked him if he wanted to die in the scum chat and he was like yea sureIn post 5576, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its just koba lolIn post 5579, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:your read on me is fake af lolIn post 5581, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:any1 can pull up my iso and see nothing has changedIn post 5583, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i stopped trying cuz i thought the game was ovee
u seem to think this means im scum today, but you never mentioned it on d5-7In post 5588, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its not milobird
bell way out of scum range
koba is the last possible baddie
if youre clear and youre alive at this pointIn post 5591, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:r u going to claim i was jailkept from killing on n3 rofl
you were brought here on purpose
just fucking be humble and admit that is a possibility instead of being like HAHA WE ARE MURDERING ALL SCUM WE ARE IMMACULATE AHAHAHA
because no
youre fucking here bc ur reads were worse than the other clears or ur hard pocketed by scum
cakez is alive this whole time because of pooky
and its blatant.
stop assuming wifom or framing
just fucking follow normal NKA
it fucking works
u have like 1 in like 20 games where scum will kill to frame with NKA
like
fuck ?
the game is already fucked if we have clears who genuinely believe i leave them alive for 3 nights straight while they have a hardon for my elim.
seriously.
learn from this game thanks
if i see this same mistake from yall in the future im just gonna not play anymore honestly im sick of it.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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pooky just yelling over and over that its me is like the classic pull over the wool kind of push to just get to the next day
like seriously.
i hard townread milo
dont fucking lim them
respect my fucking townreads
i know how to find town at this stage of the game, thanks!retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i already can see the terrible take that im just AtEing and desperate
like no screw off with that im literally just trying to be listened to for fucking once and its tiring.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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im either at e-1 or hammered and i couldnt give a shit which one it is.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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