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[Wisdom]

youre still not getting an answer

[Wisdom]

not massclaim time yet, we have a guilty

tomorrow maybe

[Wisdom]

Oh yeah good point (once again)

[Wisdom]

its probably not an issue but ill keep it a secret as long as possible

pooky is practically outed scum, you dont need my flavor to find scum today

[Wisdom]

Well I targeted TIL so no paranoia should ever fall there at least

hm
Not impossible scum tried to kill TIL either

But I think we go with Pooky either way

Just waiting for Cakez

[Wisdom]

That sounds good, TIL only had 3 shots if I recall so Wheme wont be blocking an investigation either

[Wisdom]

chowchow only has one move chow it is confusion chow but chows tried to use second move to explain what confuschow does chow

~chowchow

Moonlight heals the user
Are you saying Confusion is a self protect or something?

[Wisdom]

Mmmmmk I see a semi-guilty so I figure we should claim
Pooky and I are the vig - we have a hood and we had a joint shot to kill someone that we used to kill Gypyx. Since Pooky repped in night 1 I gave him a list of like five different people I thought we could vig and he chose Gypyx. If Pooky is scum he definitely could have chosen someone else who was town in the pool I gave him.

Well that's just bussing
But someone said Pooky doesnt bus so ugh

[Wisdom]

Thats what I immediately thought but Lunatone cant learn Wonder Room while Solrock can

[Wisdom]

pooky claim your flavor things please

[Wisdom]

ns they just have Confusion, the 5 PP move is intended to tell us what Confusion does and is not a Dustox move

[Wisdom]

They dont actually have that move, chow is just giving us a riddle

[Wisdom]

The moves that have 5 PP, no power and no accuracy are:

Mind Reader, Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Detect, Lock-on, Mean Look, Heal Bell, Morning Sun, Synthesis, Moonlight, Rain Dance, Sunny Day, Grudge, Aromatherapy, Block, Gravity, Trump Card, Trick Room, No Retreat

[Wisdom]

Also I think you said Wheme is dusclops but he’s claimed to have two different branches to evolve into IIRC?

And also legendary

they also said they want an evo stone

Most of it was bs apparently

Im just going with Dusclops because it's the only evolved one that learns Mean Look and the action is strong enough to be gained upon evolution

[Wisdom]

Let's have Pooky claim first and we see if its needed

[Wisdom]

The moves that have 5 PP, no power and no accuracy are:

Mind Reader, Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Detect, Lock-on, Mean Look, Heal Bell, Morning Sun, Synthesis, Moonlight, Rain Dance, Sunny Day, Grudge, Aromatherapy, Block, Gravity, Trump Card, Trick Room, No Retreat

Chow paint which move you mean for us (:

[Wisdom]

He literally could have just said I want to vig this person and I would have said yes because I was pretty clueless night one

plot twist, cakez is the scum in the pairing and had a buddy in the pool of 5 and pooky chose that

[Wisdom]

also chow has already painted the move!

Oh youre referring to the crossed out hospital?
I'd say Heal Block but that's 15 PP
Maybe just Block?

[Wisdom]

Heal Bell

Okay, that heals the status effects from you and allies, what does it mean in mafia terms?

[Wisdom]

*confused*

[Wisdom]

How is your ability called Pooky?

[Wisdom]

How is your ability called Pooky?

If anything chowchow corroborates things not having the right moves? But one more claim would be best to rule out a team of those two

dude
chowchow said he only has Confusion
What is confusing you
He doesnt have something he shouldnt have

[Wisdom]

No, once again, he said that the other move is just used to explain what Confusion does and is not a move he actually has

[Wisdom]

its called Wonder Room

If I was the mod I'd have it be Cosmic Power which they can both learn

But I'm willing to accept that the mod thought this is okay

[Wisdom]

chows role should be chowcleared now
chowchow

You said it has Block's effect
Block prevents people from escaping
So jailkeeper like Wheme?
Roleblocker?

[Wisdom]

I assume you mean the crossed hospital again, so you prevent healing?

[Wisdom]

Then you're yet another rolestopper?

[Wisdom]

Whats chowder
Who did you block?

[Wisdom]

Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only non-actions, Perish Song - Kills self and target in 3 phases
-	-	-	-
Milobird			N2 targeted Wisdom, N3 targeted Mala
Save The Dragons	Mareep
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird, N3 rolestopped TIL
WhemeStar		Jailkeeping Watcher	N3 jailed and watched Pooky (nobody visited)
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow	WurmpleCascoon Dustox	Ascetic Confusion - Roleblocker that doesn't stop kills	N1 evolved into Cascoon because of the scumflip, N2 evolved into Dustox, N3 did nothing
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper, N2 rolestopped Koba
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - 3shot Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated MathBlade (inno), N3 ???
Malakittens	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved, N3 ???
PookyTheMagicalBear	Lunatone	Wonder Room - Half vig & Neighbor with SirCakez	N1 vig'd Gypyx together with SirCakez
SirCakez	Solrock	Wonder Room - Half vig & Neighbor with Pooky	N1 vig'd Gypyx together with Pooky
DkKoba		Sturdy - Bulletproof Delayed roleblocker on whoever targets their target	Evolved N1, self-targeted N2
Mathblade	Lotad Lombre Ludicolo	Mega Drain - 1-shot move copy from the dead 1-shot Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing, N3 copied Firebringer's Dragon Dance and evolved

[Wisdom]

I dont know their histories but I still think Pooky is scum despite the vig yeah

[Wisdom]

mastina was scum who was unknowingly roleblocked by me

I thought of that but I think mastina's stop would resolve first since it directly affects your action

[Wisdom]

VOTE: pooky

I assume Mala didnt target anyone since nobody is claiming a hood with her? If she did it would be good to know so it doesnt fuck up actions due to redirection

[Wisdom]

mastina was scum who was unknowingly roleblocked by me

I thought of that but I think mastina's stop would resolve first since it directly affects your action

No, the act of visiting me would trigger my ability on mastina, and mastina rolestop would stop further people from being affected. Mastina claims to be my only visitor

The rolestop would also stop you from targeting yourself, no? So it would block your ability before it could trigger

[Wisdom]

But you need to target someone to put it into effect so it aint passive

[Wisdom]

I dont know how pooky is as scum but I feel that's how he is as all alignments

[Wisdom]

lol guys

both me and imaginality are super town

are you just bored

[Wisdom]

zzz im a water type

are you satisfied

[Wisdom]

And what ??? pushes did I make? Do you mean Kyouko? Because otherwise I've just pushed Woolax, dwlee and KTT/Mala (who I still think is scum)

[Wisdom]

Well when they said about evo stone and about evolving twice I looked up what lines do that and it was only Lotad and Seedot
Then Math claimed Lotad so I thought Seedot
But then they said split evo so the only one that makes sense is Ralts (evolves with Dusk Stone into Gallade) but Gallade is gen4
But Wheme has also joke-claimed Mareep and legendary so I don't know how much is true, so in the end I guessed solely based on his power which sounds like Mean Look

[Wisdom]

I evolved and my fuckin role pm is the same I got baited so fuckin hard

^ first evolution

I JUST WANNA KEEP ON EVOLVING CAUSE I THINK IM BEING TROLLED IM PROBABLY THROWING BY EVOLVING AND NOT USING MY POWER BUT EH WHATEVER ITS FUN FOR ME

^ claims he has another evolution

I wonder if anyone in this game has any evolution items

HINT HINT

^ mentions evo items (I remembered stones but he said items, so could also refer to Reaper Cloth - though Dusknoir is also gen4. I'll look into what other item evos exist)

My role has 2 evolution paths too!

^ claims split evo as well

[Wisdom]

Eh I think that Pokemon will stick to being gen 2/3 while moves/abilities arent restricted

[Wisdom]

Nancy did you say who was your third check

[Wisdom]

oddish isnt in gen 2/3 though

[Wisdom]

One possibility is he is Ralts, he looked it up and saw it has a split evo (with Gallade requiring an item), thus the posts, but he doesnt actually have the option to evolve into Gallade, just Gardevoir

[Wisdom]

yep

[Wisdom]

poliwag line might be a thing? idk if it'd be included but one of its evo paths (politoed) is gen 2

like oddish, poliwag is gen 1
same for slowpoke, onix, scyther, etc

[Wisdom]

actually it would probably just start as politoed given what my flavor is

oh? you started as evolved?

[Wisdom]

actually it would probably just start as politoed given what my flavor is

oh? you started as evolved?

yup

well still wheme isnt one of those since he claimed he evolved twice
but interesting to know, I assumed everyone starts at base form

[Wisdom]

Somehow the kill got blocked but I believe Pooky’s claim because no one has CC’d vig, so Pooky’s town.

~I

Did you just skim Nancy

They had a shared vig with SirCakez

[Wisdom]

it didn't really process until just now that I started as my fully evolved form because it's the only part of my line that fits into the gen 2/3 space

If it's like Chimecho, that gets a preevo in gen4, then you're actually in base form in this gen
But if its like Politoed then youre right

[Wisdom]

Pooky/Cakez both confitown for this.

I dont agree that both of them are
Maybe Pooky bussed
According to Bell he would have reason to

[Wisdom]

I think the NK target was likely rolestopped because we have 3 of them.

we do not have 3 of them, just gamma
mastina used it up on n2, and koba self-targeted n2 (and is not the source of the stop since mastina rolestopped them)
yes, one explanation is that gamma stopped a kill on you, but its not that likely that scum try to shoot you here

[Wisdom]

Wisdom, do you seriously think someone as good at scum as Pooky wouldn’t try to change the target to town? Plus, he has an anti-bussing meta. So no, I don’t believe Pooky vigged his buddy.

as for this I dont know how Pooky is as scum but I know that Pooky trolls a lot and does random stuff so it doesnt feel like its out of the question
And Bell said that according to his and gypyx's history it's plausible so *shrug*

[Wisdom]

I'm a line that's kinda both
I'm probably giving it away by doing this but hey, riddles are fun, and I don't see any tactical advantage to staying hushed about my flavor

I scrolled through the pokedex because I wanted to solve it
My answer is either Porygon2 or Roselia
If the latter it's like Chimecho though, it would still be in base form in gen3

[Wisdom]

last

[Wisdom]

Ugh that feels like a safe fakeclaim if i ever saw one
Claiming targeting the rolestopped person and no other results

[Wisdom]

does SS mess around with soup mechs bc i would love to claim my flavor LOL

Did I get right? (:
If not Forretress you should be Donphan
Unless Aron line but you didnt indicate having a third evo
Nothing else has Sturdy

[Wisdom]

VOTE: imaginality

Really dislike that claim

[Wisdom]

Everything related has already been claimed

[Wisdom]

How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

[Wisdom]

Whyd you choose milo again?

[Wisdom]

And why would you claim it while you have not used the other shot and risk getting interfered with?

[Wisdom]

And why did you not act on n3?

[Wisdom]

Its safe as hell
He doesn't even confirm anyone as he claims targeting Milo who was rolestopped
And it doesn't make any sense not to use it on n3
Or to claim it with a shot still available

[Wisdom]

Math thoughts on Imaginality claim please
And a vote there if you agree

[Wisdom]

Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky

[Wisdom]

Theres nobody else being suspected though that Imaginality could draw votes from
Except Pooky obviously but he voted Pooky

Buying time isn’t about drawing votes though

I agree something is off but I think it’s expectations of the game.

What is it about
If we assume he wants his buddy to live through today, then his buddy would need to be in danger today

[Wisdom]

I dont feel like giving him any breathing room
He feels obviously scum with that claim
And the other is just mala but yeah

[Wisdom]

Then who else?

[Wisdom]

then i feel confident mastina will jump on Imaginality too

[Wisdom]

I was asking Titus who doesnt see mala is scum

[Wisdom]

Sure

[Wisdom]

Though she might be the gf so

[Wisdom]

And she still hasnt claimed what she did last night btw

[Wisdom]

pooky get on Imaginality ty

[Wisdom]

std did you see the claim

[Wisdom]

Titus is conftown nancy

[Wisdom]

Boring scummy answer
Lim Imaginality

[Wisdom]

If DKKoba's role said, "choose a player, on the next night...", I wouldn't prevent the action.

Its on the same night that they targeted themselves, not the next, so you did block the action

[Wisdom]

Someone who’s widely townread make a massclaim order

I just want to be after wis is all I care about

Im not going to claim anything else today
You said you were satisfied

[Wisdom]

I just feel there's something off when people are treating it 100% confirmation of Pooky town. If other people are loudly proclaiming this every game it happens then Pooky not advertising it himself is irrelevant. Effectively town's getting an extra N1 cop inno result in a quarter or so of the games Pooky's in.

I don't know, it just annoys me we've gone from about to lim Pooky to about to lim me just because of this tell that everyone treats as gospel.

This sounds like scumBingle in 8ball being annoyed Taly's vote didnt count

[Wisdom]

And believe me Imaginality, we did not go from Pooky to you because of that. It was your bad fakeclaim. You literally claimed scum there.

[Wisdom]

Chow youve been on both scum lims so far
Make it three

[Wisdom]

Hes still at e-1 and needs one vote for whoever is not keeping count

[Wisdom]

Wisdom, Titus, Nancy, Pooky, mastina, chow, imaginality (7)

[Wisdom]

Imaginality do you mind having the hammer vote since youre already selfvoting?

[Wisdom]

I mean Mala didnt claim n3 action but since nobody claimed a hood im assuming she did nothing
Other than that nothing
Reason I asked 4513 is in case hes a supersaint or something

[Wisdom]

No we cleared Titus with the message, as it was strongman.

Mala did you try to target us again or only N2?

~Mystery~

More like ~Scum~

[Wisdom]

You are? Then he's hammered

[Wisdom]

Oh yeah you voted him when I said the super town thing

[Wisdom]

Wonder Room refers to the neighborhood I guess

[Wisdom]

Wheme can probably jailkeep TIL tonight and I rolestop Wheme

Did Wheme acknowledge this? Lets keep TIL alive and get the third result

[Wisdom]

Although if only the gf remains it wont matter ofc

[Wisdom]

Use it on Math, hes also using what essentially is a cop shot

[Wisdom]

Or on Gamma if imaginality flips non gf scum

[Wisdom]

the latter

[Wisdom]

gg
Dont feel bad cakez, like Imaginality said nobody could figure it was pooky until we spoiled it
And ns its not your fault, you didnt lim me on your own. If anything I blame Mala for getting mad at me for no reason, but even then the fact is I got voted by like 8 people. Town derped as a whole.
Good effort Pooky.

[Wisdom]

I dont remember anyone guessing pooky until I spoiled it but okay
Maybe you entered after that and guessed it before you saw the spoil i guess

[Wisdom]

VOTE: wisdom
let's murder him before he gets back from V/LA

Ironic first post of the game

[Wisdom]

Hey Wisdom, you were an investigative who pushed me for not posting while my mom was on her deathbed, knowing damn well you were softing a guilty.

I've been waiting two months to really lay into you and tell you what I think of you.

But all in all, you're just a bad person. Not the player. A bad person.

That's all I have to say to you. Ever.

I did not push you for not posting. You misunderstood.