Anything uPick (Endgame)

[jjh927]

NK15 response: Nou

how do u respond to this through debunk jjh?

No u

[jjh927]

1. They cannot be elimed in day 1
2. I suspect that NK15's role is a dreaming god or something similar and his disappearance in day 1 is a result of that. Dreaming gods tend to have mixed utility

can u explain that utlity

what dispearence for scum benefits the scum team?

Scum utility is that you cannot be elimed in day 1 as I just said.

To expand on the second point, dreaming gods don't necessarily line up with clearly sided utility. They can include net neutral things, and things that are pro-town, and things that are pro-scum, and all three of those as a single role of either alignment.

So we're clear on this, I am not making the case that NK15 is scum by role. It just is possible.

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Jjh

, dude, I would like help in reading you.

And as for Jjh? The logic-mindmeld is very strong and their responses to me have been on-point and that somehow is what makes me fearful.

When I read jjh, I feel like I understand why most people are paranoid upon townreading me because there is a sense of competence that overshadows a concrete motive.

Like, how is he so candid with townlocking majority of the playerlist - it can't just be because he wants to race to solve the game first? How does he have the best answer to Gypy'x IC claim but 180'd from pushing them while he somewhat spiraled with a carousel hypothesis for mech? Why doesn't he second-think the fact that our scumreads are largely consensus - or does he see value in rethinking?

He just seems confident and I don't know if it's powertown or informed and I really, really want to figure out sooner than later.

I dunno how I can help you here
I have discarded paranoia. If something I think now ends up appearing to be incorrect with information we get later down the line then I just adjust. It isn't worth second guessing myself

[jjh927]

HURT: Victorine

[jjh927]

Victorine is now E-1

[jjh927]

NK15 said no twilight

Personally I would have wanted to wait in hope that Victorine fullclaimed so I could be even more certain she was scum but this is the end result anyway

[jjh927]

Oof

[jjh927]

Okay, so that was a very strong fakeclaim

In fairness there are multiple instances of active deception around Sakura's alignment in the dead thread.


Anyway, yeah I bodyguarded Taly N1 and Titus N2. Guess I was shot N2. Was kinda considering not bodyguarding at all that night.

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Yay something I did worked

I appreciate you Jjh

You can be paranoid if you like, Taly, but it won't matter because I'm not gonna survive that many night phases

Omg you may not be scum but town trying to steal my NK bait

That's worse *attacks*

Attacking me will not stop me from dying before you do

[jjh927]

Yeah but even with that philosophy most people are clowns and change things a bit which means it's still frequently easy to spot fakeclaims

[jjh927]

I would say that a massclaim where the big important question of "why were there 2 kills on night 4" was frequently asked would have been the way to figure it out mechanically here though

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U know the worst thing about this game?
I am going to still see people claim things like TMI slips more often and point to this game as an example.

If anyone points to this game as an example, tell them they probably wouldn't have believed it was an actual TMI in this case

Unless it is me

If it's me pointing to this example, then it probably is a TMI and you should sheep me

[jjh927]

PTs when

[jjh927]

I'm curious about both sides and also the scum PT

[jjh927]

Oh and that neighbourhood where loads of shit happened

[jjh927]

PTs or riot

[jjh927]

Oh sorry I was just typoing my avatar change

Ebwop

It's Poirot

[jjh927]

Yeah that's pretty reasonable