Anything uPick (Endgame)

[VP Baltar]

What up playas

who's confirmed town up in here?

[VP Baltar]

What up playas

who's confirmed town up in here?

You.

Titus

cop cleared

Clem

N1.

The 4 of us were in a hood with

Deimos

that

NK15

just closed.

I would request access for reading purposes.

I have access and will read. I'm just starting my work day currently, so it will be a bit before I can get around to that.

Seems kind of a shifty play by NK15, no?

[VP Baltar]

oh, I see. NK is claiming they were targeting the mafia PT instead of the neighborhood.

[VP Baltar]

Also, any key events in the game so far I should check out? I'm definitely not reading 260 pages.

[VP Baltar]

Also, any key events in the game so far I should check out? I'm definitely not reading 260 pages.

GMO and Victorine are flipped scum. Victorine D2, and GMO NATO D3, due to my CC.

seeing that now. NOICE.

and you think GoodBoy is associated with GMO?

[VP Baltar]

Also, any key events in the game so far I should check out? I'm definitely not reading 260 pages.

GMO and Victorine are flipped scum. Victorine D2, and GMO NATO D3, due to my CC.

seeing that now. NOICE.

and you think GoodBoy is associated with GMO?

dont listen to Nk15. He been tunneling me for 4 days

why shouldn't I listen to them if they caught scum already?

[VP Baltar]

Day3 broke us up into PTs and specifically organized them to yeet me again.

so Not Known organized the PTs as a conspiracy against you?

[VP Baltar]

You can’t access it at all? I thought closing meant no posting?

Taly was talking to me on access, but mod hooked me up. It's just locked.

[VP Baltar]

I was not able to close just the scum pt...

Why did you decide to do it when you did? Maybe this has been explained already.

[VP Baltar]

I was not able to close just the scum pt...

Why did you decide to do it when you did? Maybe this has been explained already.

No,it has not. There were other options. Disabling vigs and role investigations. Nonsense options messing with votes, including an incredibly bastard one.

Sure, but why pull the trigger at that specific point in the game instead of later? Just trying to understand your thinking.

[VP Baltar]

Can I get a list of known night actions and who they are associated with if anyone is keeping that in their notes?

[VP Baltar]

I trust yall, though mass claiming seems like it would benefit scum more, especially if no one is feeling like mechanics are their strong suit. That's just my gut reaction. I'd also like to be able to read a LITTLE bit before anything like that if possible

[VP Baltar]

cheeky

would you believe me if i said that i am a nerfed IC

Claim and I'll see if I believe you lol
~C

:intense panting noises:

i need to know if people actually get anything from me

i know these people havent from what it seems:

GLB
CW
Ydra

need 10 more names on this

As far as I'm aware, I didn't get anything from you.

Hey NK, how long does your first amendment thing last?

[VP Baltar]

all i want for christmas is to spend more time with deimos

What's up with deimos?

[VP Baltar]

Too many people in the game still

Lol demios and I are sharing a brain. I'm looking at all these people and roles and wondering how I'm going to keep it straight.

[VP Baltar]

Why are some names in the vote count colored?

[VP Baltar]

Ydrasse is a double voter
Sakura Hana is loved

Thank ya kindly.

[VP Baltar]

Gamma, who should I vote?

[VP Baltar]

nobody is explaining their

fire

scumread except for

nk15

and im still waiting to hear back from them about why they chose now to shut down the PTs

They explained this to me. Said no particular reason.

[VP Baltar]

You know what day it almost is:

[VP Baltar]

Those are my lawyers

[VP Baltar]

You know what day it almost is:

It says your video is “age restricted and “only available on Youtube”.

It contains bad words. Ask your parents before viewing.

[VP Baltar]

look ur townbloc just isn't working out. it isn't u, its us. We can still be friends, but i think we should see other blocks.

From what I've gleaned, this block seems pretty town to me.

[VP Baltar]

T3 did you receive anything Night 2?

Yeah
I got beets, and something else.

How did the beets taste?

My reputation is on the line here.

T3 are you sure they didn't taste like carrots?

n1 i was encased
n2 i was beetsed and smth else
n3 nothing

I sent you carrots, not beets. Did you get the carrots?

NVM lol I misread the pm
Yeah I got carrots

Yeet all liars

[VP Baltar]

What up playas

who's confirmed town up in here?

i claimed Elo/Melo IC if you give any worth to that

I guess we let the scum sort you out then...

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: T3

[VP Baltar]

Gypyx, can you help me out? Who do you think is scum and why?

[VP Baltar]

I'm starting reading from D2 and oof...

This NK/GLB stuff is going to be rough to get through

[VP Baltar]

I'm starting reading from D2 and oof...

This NK/GLB stuff is going to be rough to get through

Lemme know when you come up with an answer on that one bc I'm inthe same pickle.

Seems kind of TvT at the moment, but I'm on like page 213. Not sure if I'll get fully read up to the point I entered, but I'll try to get a grasp on things here.

[VP Baltar]

Ydrasse was already redirected, what if that role that redirected her also created a new target for her action

I think at this point we should stop speculating until we get a clearer picture of the role distribution via flips and/or claims.

Why?

Not enough info. It isn't going to be productive, it will just clog up the thread. The post volume is high enough.

Unless you have an unlimited number of witch trials, how can that possibly hurt?

it isd more than one since it was implied in rc's post. im just waiting on the

gypyx, vic, or loft

trial

Given how brazenly GrandpaMo was playing, this post pings me a bit as to whether he might have put more than one buddy in this list as a distancing attempt.

[VP Baltar]

I'm very annoyed that I came into this game with access to a PT and can't talk through the game with people to figure out stuff.

[VP Baltar]

I'm very annoyed that I came into this game with access to a PT and can't talk through the game with people to figure out stuff.

Why can't you talk it through here? It's not exactly a spam fest in here atm.
~C

feels silly for me to dump a bunch of thoughts about 50 pages back as I'm processing, especially since some of them may be dumb or contradicted when I read more.

[VP Baltar]

Why is Clem scum for you?

oh...

i just realized i mixed up victorine and clem

abort

i'll just go to sleep i think

lol this post

[VP Baltar]

I'm very annoyed that I came into this game with access to a PT and can't talk through the game with people to figure out stuff.

Why can't you talk it through here? It's not exactly a spam fest in here atm.
~C

feels silly for me to dump a bunch of thoughts about 50 pages back as I'm processing, especially since some of them may be dumb or contradicted when I read more.

Don't feel silly it would be nice to get some solving done when most people seem checked out.
~C

ok, for instance...Gypyx looks scummy as fuck so far on D2. Obv y'all pushed him at some point to claim, but I'm not to that point yet, so I'm not sure how the pressure came off him.

Also, I'm not sure what came of Demios claiming to have seen a scum slip from GLB. It was briefly talked about in my hood, but the hood was distracted and locked before any good conversation happened there. Curious how that gets resolved as well.

[VP Baltar]

although if grandpa sent food to GLB, that seems like they have to be town. I don't think the scum team would play such a shit show if pooky was on the team trying to help them?

[VP Baltar]

has anyone asked what the beets do?

[VP Baltar]

I'm on page 236 in the middle of the Gypyx trial, but I'm gonna call it for the day. About 25 more pages before I subbed in.

If I'm trying to sort people at this moment, it is probably something like:

Town:
VP Baltar
Taly
Deimos27
Gamma Emerald
Good Luck Buddy
Cheeky Wings
Not Known 15

Null:
Sakura Hana
Ydrasse
Galron
Something_Smart

Probably at least a scum or two:
T3
Gypyx
Loftwing

[VP Baltar]

very little of that is probably final answer. There are several people who I've read like 8 posts in 40 pages from, so....

[VP Baltar]

Also, that list is not in order, just sorting people into bins.

[VP Baltar]

I'm on page 236 in the middle of the Gypyx trial, but I'm gonna call it for the day. About 25 more pages before I subbed in.

Btw, dont forget day 3 is split game and it happens on a PT for each side.

Oh dear. Is that why people are referencing the "western" side or something in that PT I'm a part of? Or is there ANOTHER topic I need to read?

Also, I'm not THAT dedicated. I didn't read anything from D1

[VP Baltar]

So my block is with Taly, Titus, etc?

[VP Baltar]

Oh ok, yeah that's what I have. Thanks.

[VP Baltar]

So two people were encased in ice each night?

Taly! Who should I be voting and why?

[VP Baltar]

Also, if JJH really prayed for Sakura, that seems a good reason to consider them town since JJH's reads were fairly spot on.

[VP Baltar]

tonally checked out

What does this mean?

[VP Baltar]

Ydrasse, SS and Galron sort of speed yeeted Ratman in the eastern bloc it looks like. Went down in a matter of minutes.

[VP Baltar]

It apparently was a dead thread as well. Not much talk before the yeet

[VP Baltar]

Also VP, there were like 6 or 8 of us who didn't get the game start pm until 40 or 50 pages in, including Clemency iirc. I know you didn't read Day 1 but it took a minute for me at least to get a grasp on the game because of the late start. I assume for some of the others it was the same.

Ok....but what does that have to do with the speed finish to D3 on rat?

[VP Baltar]

UNVOTE:

SS and Galron, can you explain why you followed Titus then ydrasse onto rat without much discussion?

[VP Baltar]

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all the different day phase mechanics so far have been a result of NK15's ability?

[VP Baltar]

Also VP, there were like 6 or 8 of us who didn't get the game start pm until 40 or 50 pages in, including Clemency iirc. I know you didn't read Day 1 but it took a minute for me at least to get a grasp on the game because of the late start. I assume for some of the others it was the same.

Ok....but what does that have to do with the speed finish to D3 on rat?

Nothing.

Why did you say it then?

[VP Baltar]

Another question to anyone for clarity: the eastern bloc yeeted and that ended the day before western bloc had a chance to yeet?

[VP Baltar]

And what do your beets do for people who get them?

[VP Baltar]

And what do your beets do for people who get them?

Nutrition. Same with the corn.

So you're basically claiming straight fruit vendor with no other effects?

Pedit - roasted beets are my favorite but sometimes it is scary when you poop the next day

[VP Baltar]

Taly, does it make more sense to yeet SS today?

Pedit - so the west reached an agreement not to yeet and let the east do the job? I'm sure yall discussed this in thread, so I'll read that when I get there

[VP Baltar]

Out pace* as in we hammered before they did.
~C

Wait, yall yeeted too? Who was yeeted?

Pedit - so it seems like the double freezings are related to ydrasse then?

[VP Baltar]

Taly, does it make more sense to yeet SS today?

Pedit - so the west reached an agreement not to yeet and let the east do the job? I'm sure yall discussed this in thread, so I'll read that when I get there

Seems like a yeet and a night kill happened on each bloc.

Oh that's my bad. I misread OP. Disregard this entire line of questioning about the west bloc!

[VP Baltar]

Does seem like loft or SS is probably the smart yeet today.

I'm suddenly less confident ydrasse isn't just scum posting willy nilly about their ability. But I have no evidence.

Pedit - yeah, I'm up to speed on ydrasse I think. Could have swore a second person besides Titus said they got iced too? I should have been taking night action notes probably.

[VP Baltar]

Ydrasse said in the east bloc that they knew SS targeted them? Or SS claimed iced and then Ydrasse said they were likely redirected before SS aimed targeting?

I clearly need to reread the east bloc again

[VP Baltar]

Ydrasse said in the east bloc that they knew SS targeted them? Or SS claimed iced and then Ydrasse said they were likely redirected before SS aimed targeting?

I clearly need to reread the east bloc again

Yeah, we really need that to try to sort Ydrasse.

I'm heading out, but I can reread this and write up a play by play of the important parts tomorrow if needed.

In terms of the freeze, ydrasse claimed reflexive role blocker. Said they were trying to stop the redirecting madness or something like that. So SS says because he targeted ydrasse, he got frozen in reflex.


What's getting me is that the icing just stops when ydrasse does, so that's potentially fishy that the earlier freezings weren't redirected.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: Cheeky Wings

Remind me why visits which was not on dying person are suspicious.
It's bad reasoning.

That seems like a bad vote. You can just read my iso probably and look at the OP to get caught up on generally what happened so far in the game. I only replaced in a few days ago and a lot of my ISO is me catching up.

[VP Baltar]

Gypyx, can you help me out? Who do you think is scum and why?

Well, i'd say that i don't really have much of an idea of peoples who look to be scum, but i'm rather confident on Galron / GLB / NK15 / Ydrasse being town (although Ydra's more of a mech read)

but yeah for scum i don't know honestly, maybe Deimos? It's like, a story of him not doing anything that sticks in my mind

This seems kind of weak in terms of reads at this point in the game.

[VP Baltar]

Ok reading eastern bloc again, here are the order of things:

-SS claims he was iced immediately at the start of the day.
-Ydrasse doesn't reveal what happened but says she didn't target SS.
-Titus also explains she was iced, but didn't target Ydrasse after Ydrasse asks. Ydrasse expresses confusion and says someone other than her must be icing people as well. (It still has not been revealed in thread that Y's ability was allegedly reflexive that night).
-Gypyx votes ratman and starts calling for votes there.
-Titus says she could get down with ratman or loftwing because they haven't done shit.
-Gypyx again asks for ratman votes.
-SS and ydrasse have a bit of a dance where Ydrasse is trying to get SS to claim and he says he doesn't want to because he was jail kept in ice and his action clearly didn't work, so why would he claim.
-ydrasse claims JOAT with 1 shot each of Reflexive roleblocker,, jail keeper, double voter. Says she is confused how multiple people are being iced each night.
-SS says he won't claim, but will reveal he visited ydrasse that night, hence the icing.
-ratman finally appears and asks if there is any reason not to vote loftwing. Gypyx brings up Miller claim. Sakura votes loftwing.
-Galron says he thinks GMO is scum....which I'm realizing is weird now????
-ydrasse asks for case for why we should yeet rats over loft. Titus says it doesn't matter and votes ratman. Speed yeet ensues. Day over.

[VP Baltar]

-Galron says he thinks GMO is scum....which I'm realizing is weird now????

Galron, can you explain why this came to your mind then in EB?

[VP Baltar]

Do I nuke the Miller claim?

Please don't. I actually got an enjoyable role this time, and I didn't wait a month or so just to die less than 24 hours into the game for literally doing what you're supposed to do as a miller.

(Also, it starts to carve the precedent that Millers should shut the hell up when they roll miller, less they be eaten alive by the other players for doing what is optimal for millers to do.)

I mean, I was rather meh that the mod gave me such a bland and game-balanced role.

LOFTWING

A good post.

Loftwing, care to respond?

[VP Baltar]

-Galron says he thinks GMO is scum....which I'm realizing is weird now????

Galron, can you explain why this came to your mind then in EB?

Gypyx asked ratmans and loftwing to give 2 townreads and 1 scumread of those in the PT. I said I thought that was a decent idea and I'd do it to but after they did and said that as a teaser I thought GMo was scum. Sakura said that Gypyx wanted reads from in the thread. I said that's why it's a teaser. What you read is literally what happened.

The teaser part struck me as weird. Like you accurately predicted the yeet in WB.

I'm probably tinfoiling.

[VP Baltar]

Let's kill someone already

I think we are getting there. I don't see such a rush since enchant and I are getting up to speed

[VP Baltar]

Did ydra feel rolebaity?

I wouldn't say that explicitly. SS brought it up and a town!ydrasse would want to know if SS targeted her. The why wasn't really explained.

Ydrae was definitely asking for more information than SS wanted to give. Hard to say if either side of the interaction had ulterior motives though.

[VP Baltar]

The two parts were completely seperated.
Tinfoil.

I'm asking because the only link would be the scum who could take about both sides in their PT, yes?

Unless the scum PT didn't have daytalk then?

[VP Baltar]

You have access to WB and had you bothered to read that, it’s beyond obvious we’re never SvS with GMo here,

Can you explain this for me? I'd like to be able to sort you permanently and not worry about it

[VP Baltar]

Why did gypyx want ratmans?
VP's timeline suggests that he was the driving force of the lim.

Driving force is probably overstating it slightly, but he did initiate it and nudged a time or two for votes there. No explanation was given other than low posting quality/frequency.

The four votes that ended ratman came quickly and without much more prompting from gypyx.

[VP Baltar]

Actually I just remembered gypyx claimed elo IC so that slot doesn't really need touching until then

Not sure I'm 100% on board with this. Seems like it could be a gambit, but dealing with it isn't a priority right now.

[VP Baltar]

Who else was pushing rat, Loft?

I wouldn't say anyone else was pushing. Gypyx brought it up. Titus said she had no objections, then it happened.

I've paraphrased all mentions of rat there, I believe.

I'm not sure if yall had made some mention of him prior to the split.

[VP Baltar]

This is from the other thread.

Here's a scummary of the day so far:
+GMo gets pushed by me and threatens to claim under pressure.
+Claims 1s neighbourizer with special abilities plus food vendor.
+GMo says he hooded Vic D1 and didn't tell jjh he was in a hood to protect his special strong ability. 1v1'd with jjh for two day phases instead.
+GMo Claims he's in a new hood, because when his neighbour dies he gets his shot back. Also claims that if the hood occupants claim who is in the hood they both die.
+GMo Claims food vendor is also a doctor protect and he protected my slot N2, GLB N1.
+GMo says his neighbour spoke to him at a time when D3 had started. NK confirms with mod that all hoods are closed. Taly confirmed earlier in the day that his hood was also closed.
+GMo Claims his hood is open and T3 is his neighbour.
+T3 hard claims not in a hood with GMo, after claiming GMo was bleeding town earlier in the day.

Everything else was just noise so yeah. Order might be a bit wonky but those are the main events.

I added two words for ego purposes.
~C

@VP

~C

Extremely helpful, thank you. If anyone disputes this rundown, say so or I'm taking it as accurate

[VP Baltar]

Actually I just remembered gypyx claimed elo IC so that slot doesn't really need touching until then

Not sure I'm 100% on board with this. Seems like it could be a gambit, but dealing with it isn't a priority right now.

They are either conftown or confscum at elo so the slot solves itself at that point

Except gypyx!scum comes in at Melo with a weird story about why his IC doesn't work. Anyhow. It's not important rn

[VP Baltar]

does this look like make a wish foundation to u?????!!!!

Legit funny post.

VOTE: loftwing

I'd suggest appearing and answering some questions friend.

[VP Baltar]

More importantly

when

did he supposedly inherit the role? Koba died in the middle of D1 and at the time it seemed like he still had whatever miller role he had.

yeah, didn't he claim miller after that?

[VP Baltar]

Did I win?
~C

You did.

[VP Baltar]

Now I'm Actually Curious Why The Momentum Shifted Off Of Me When I Did Literally Nothing

It's Really Weird How People Are Asking Me Why I Visited Ydrasse As Though That Wouldn't Give Away My Role Or Something

Actually It Wouldn't In This Case But In Almost Every Other Case It Would

I was thinking about these posts, and they are fucking weird.

Who are they directed at? What is the point of either one?

Complaining the momentum shifted off SS when we can only lim one person per day is weird. Like, do you think scum shifted momentum? Is there a reason for them to do that besides SS being scum?

Second, of course people are trying to figure out whats going on with Ydrasse? The encasing in ice has been suspiciously deployed since the start of the game and affected some people in not protown ways. It was also main topic of discussion in Eastern Bloc and never really got resolved. I don't understand your shift now to say it's fine for you to partially claim when you wouldn't do that at all in the EB when people asked what was up.

[VP Baltar]

Fwiw, I think this flips scum

[VP Baltar]

If loftwing was town, they'd be in here spewing reads and who we should be looking at upon their flip.

[VP Baltar]

He might be scum but because it’s actually Loft, this isn’t exactly reassuring to me.

We will see. If he was town, doesn't sound like we are losing an asset anyhow.

[VP Baltar]

He has yet to give a single read on Ydrasse but he visited her, why?

Because I Thought I Knew What Action She Would Take

Did You Even Read My Partial Claim

As an aside, have you considered writing your responses in a word processor and just making each word capitalized so you can write more thorough responses?

[VP Baltar]

If loftwing was town, they'd be in here spewing reads and who we should be looking at upon their flip.

Do

Do you not know

that I'm an alt

of Jake

No.

[VP Baltar]

As an aside, have you considered writing your responses in a word processor and just making each word capitalized so you can write more thorough responses?

No And That's Not A Terrible Idea But I Think It Would Take More Time Than It's Worth For All But Very Long Posts

For sure. I'm just saying that if you are under pressure, it might make sense for you if you're town to take the one extra step.

For example, you could respond to those posts of yours I called out to explain your thought process.

[VP Baltar]

I didn't realize you also can't use punctuation. That is annoying

[VP Baltar]

Remember!

Toothpaste is not designed to dissolve capitalism.

Did I sign up for a mafia game or a Don Draper ad?

"I don't think about you at all." --

Don Draper

Half this game, in reference to this game

[VP Baltar]

I was encased in ice last night and I know Deimos is town. I also have a plan to catch scum today, but would like to hear from some other folks first.

[VP Baltar]

i’m confirming that i iced vp balter with my

drum roll please

FOURTH ABILITY

Surprise abilities.

[VP Baltar]

I have a guilty!

I like where this is going. Please tell me it is in the eastern block

[VP Baltar]

Is There A Reason Not To Out Who It Is

Sweaty palms intensify

[VP Baltar]

Is There A Reason Not To Out Who It Is

I wanted some discussion to happen first, what's the rush?

my impatience is immesurable

Mom's spaghetti

[VP Baltar]

i'm going to assume that i'm effectively a named townie, as i was not attached to anything

Do you think the guilty is on you?

I think it might be!

[VP Baltar]

Let's play a game where we all try to guess where the guilty is before Sakura tells us!

[VP Baltar]

I sent you corn GLB but not the other stuff.

Who do you think the guilty is on?

[VP Baltar]

Why ask me specifically, anyway?

I want everyone to comment when they post next.

[VP Baltar]

like from taly's pov can't i also be a guilty
or am i
CONFUSED

Who do you think it is?

[VP Baltar]

Scum just completely shutting down with fear to post.

[VP Baltar]

So to be clear your defense is that scum redirected Sakura's parity cop on you onto someone else?

Yes

It's Entirely Possible They Have A Redirector Given What Happened To Ydrasse And It Was Known Sakura Had A Cop Shot So It's Silly To Think They Wouldn't Have Tried To Do Something About That

Doesn't make sense.

Sakura recieved an explicit result about you and NK not having the same alignment.

[VP Baltar]

the mod does mention that my targets werent aligned with each other.

This is very specific language.

[VP Baltar]

SS is scum bargaining I think. We should also consider how many cops and clears are likely in the game.

[VP Baltar]

Many Of Them Are Not Perfectly Reliable Though

Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?

[VP Baltar]

Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?

Titus Was Not Redirect Immune Sakura Is Vulnerable At Least To A Bus Driver And Possibly A Redirector As Well

I Don't Know How Reliable My Check Is But A Godfather At Least Is Plausible

So you want us to not lim you on hypothetical things that did not happen.

Titus had a true cop result on me.

I have reliable knowledge that Demios is conf town.

So that's two counter points that are proven. This is what I mean when I say you sound like scum bargaining. Both you and Gypyx have promised amazing future outcomes that are entirely contingent on town letting you live for an indeterminate amount of time.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty

Lol

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty

even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech

This sounds informed

+1

[VP Baltar]

"Time to debate my points!"

Disappear from game

[VP Baltar]

Enchant asked you to repeat them.

[VP Baltar]

GG SAKURA HOLY SHIT

[VP Baltar]

NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out;

This was my favorite part and I was actually sad he got killed.

[VP Baltar]

Me at Taly's and Fire's throats last night in the hood like "which of these BASTARDS has the wool over my eyes" lol. And then when Fire starts speculating about what's going on with Ydra's 2S I'm like "doesn't matter to me"

haha, I was popcorning the neighborhood last night.

[VP Baltar]

do you guys want to see some cool screenshots where i yell at fb for being a demon fox scum

yes please.

[VP Baltar]

OUCH. Even the dead thread thought I was scum... :/

It's not that you were scummy. We were just looking for ANY answer about what was going on. Sakura's bus was very good.

[VP Baltar]

riot

I've made my choice.