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Post Post #18 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:17 am

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Hi everyone!

VOTE: GuiltyLion because I like the name.

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Post Post #33 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:04 am

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In post 28, Icebox wrote:Hi there person I don't think I've played with before,

how you doin?

-Bell
Hi, I'm doing fine. Not sure if you were meaning me, so pardon if you did not. :)
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Post Post #116 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:58 am

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I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:59 am

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Juliet, no fancy words for your Guilty Lion vote?
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Post Post #132 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:37 am

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In post 129, Wisdom wrote:too bad, tell him
This made me laugh and gives me loyal troupe vibes.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:36 am

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I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 212, Icebox wrote:
In post 116, Skybird wrote:I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.
Is this sarcasm

-Bell
Not at all.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:15 am

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In post 221, Juliet Capulet wrote:
In post 176, Skybird wrote:I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.


I didn't like how the justification for the vote in feels very overexplanatory
GL has posted a lot more since then. Do you still feel suspicious about that slot?

@GL, my apologies for calling you a slot. I couldn't remember your pronouns.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:30 am

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WhemeStar, looking through your iso doesn't give me many reasons not to vote you. Do you have any reads besides getting scum pings from Pavo?
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Post Post #303 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:33 am

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LLD, what does it mean that you voted Bowser Jr. Three posts in a row? This is probably a rhetorical question since it looks like LLD has a post restriction.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:51 pm

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WhemeStar, you going to answer my question from #302?
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Post Post #386 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:45 am

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In post 379, DeasVail wrote:
Skybird

Sorry Skybird, you have gone into the scum section of my scumpile again.
Her posts feel run-of-the-mill and routine to me with not much evidence of underlying thought process behind them and more looking like posts for the sake of making them. in particular does not seem super well thought out since I feel like LLD has made her meaning behind the posts very clear. and feel more like Skybird positioning herself than actually furthering her understanding of people's alignments etc.
Don't worry about it DV. It's all good. :)
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Post Post #399 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:37 am

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Wheme votes me, but looking through his iso I don't see any thoughts/reasons he wants to vote me. Most of the stuff he throws out is without explanation. Example inmost 361 he calls Icebox hard town. How did he get there? Why are people town-reading him?
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Post Post #517 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:32 am

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RL has been busy and I haven't had time to really dig in yet. Reading now.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 361, WhemeStar wrote:Icebox is hard town btw
Did you ever explain why Icebox is hard town? If not, why are you reading Icebox as hard town?
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Post Post #527 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 524, GuiltyLion wrote:Skybird, what is your own read on Icebox?
Null leaning scum. I see them asking questions and interacting with people but I don't see movement in their reads. I didn't see much by way of reads period.

Pav, as I mentioned earlier I've been busy. I'm finding it difficult to follow the game on my phone and hope to do more from my computer this weekend.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:22 pm

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In post 523, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 519, Skybird wrote:
In post 361, WhemeStar wrote:Icebox is hard town btw
Did you ever explain why Icebox is hard town? If not, why are you reading Icebox as hard town?
Because when bell head posts hes town
What about when the other head posts?
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Post Post #529 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 526, Pavowski wrote:I was going to say I don't really understand the Skybird wagon, but I checked the iso and it's, like, empty. So I'm gonna roll with the crowd here.

VOTE: Skybird

Standing by your Juliet vote? Thoughts on CoF's claim? How do you feel about DV? Is Luke going to eat us?
Juliet has like 8 or 9 posts in 21 pages. You say my iso is empty, have you looked at Juliet's? And I agree, my iso is pretty empty but I'm working on it. :]

CoF's claim seems weird. Someone mentioned that their role card had other things that aren't known or clear yet as part or their role. Mine has that too. The mod has also stated that it will be possible to buy some things as the game goes on. In my mind it's almost like CoF made the claim for pity reasons. It's a weird claim to make, because if Cof is still alive on D4 I imagine CoF will be waggoned. So why make the claim and why do it the way they did?

DV - I haven't had a chance to really look at this slot yet.

If Luke is going to eat us, I hope we give him indigestion. (Haven't had a chance to look at him closer yet either.)

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Post Post #559 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:44 am

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In post 556, Tamora's Angel wrote:
In post 527, Skybird wrote:
In post 524, GuiltyLion wrote:Skybird, what is your own read on Icebox?
Null leaning scum. I see them asking questions and interacting with people but I don't see movement in their reads. I didn't see much by way of reads period.

Pav, as I mentioned earlier I've been busy. I'm finding it difficult to follow the game on my phone and hope to do more from my computer this weekend.
Icebox is probably town.
Your reasons for saying this?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:49 am

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Public service announcement: while my join date is old, I took off some time from the site and just returned a month ago or so. So for me, LLD's naked votes may be something you are used to, I don't remember seeing this. If her style means something to you, great. It doesn't mean anything to me and I have no idea how to read someone like this.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:10 am

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In post 531, Cephrir wrote:
In post 530, DeasVail wrote:I kind of like Skybird's Icebox read. Icebox has sort of been on my radar more as well since my previously expressed reads.
I don't! I doubt think enough has happened to warrant an expectation that anyone would have shifted their reads. I feel like the accusation as they put it could be leveled at practically anyone. What merit do you see here? And yes I am asking you to explain someone else's read.
We have 23 pages of material to look through. You don't think that'll is enough to start developing reads? As far as shifting reads DV has gone from slightly scum reading me to null back to scum reading me.

Icebox has enough posts that I would think to see developing reads from them.

P-edit: Thanks Bowser. I appreciate the info.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:00 am

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In post 563, Cephrir wrote:
In post 562, Skybird wrote:We have 23 pages of material to look through. You don't think that'll is enough to start developing reads? As far as shifting reads DV has gone from slightly scum reading me to null back to scum reading me.

Icebox has enough posts that I would think to see developing reads from them.
having reads, sure, although this game has been a little boring for me so far and i personally don't have many. changing reads, idk, hard for me to feel like that's reasonable when i haven't even finished developing initial reads yet
No problem Ceph, we can agree to disagree.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:27 am

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I take it this is your suspect list?
In post 557, Tamora's Angel wrote:Dunn DV JC Cephrir
If this is a suspect list I definitely agree on JC. I still see nothing happening and she's barely playing the game.

Dunn - don't know yet. He's not hitting my radar so he's further down my sort list.

DV - still processing him, though I'm leaning more town on him.

Cephrir - I haven't gotten much from him either. Further investigation required on my part.

Lukewarm - His posting has be weird. I don't believe I've played with him before so I don't know if this is just his playing style or something that could be indicating alignment. Another one I need to look at more.

From your list, who would you choose to be the D1 lim and why?

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Post Post #616 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 606, Galron wrote:
In post 579, Skybird wrote:Lukewarm - His posting has be weird. I don't believe I've played with him before so I don't know if this is just his playing style or something that could be indicating alignment. Another one I need to look at more.
What do you think of the Luke-DV-GuiltyLion triangle?
It's weird. I've been trying to parce DV and I keep thinking he's very wordy. It makes it hard to figure out his alignment. Nothing jumps out and screams scum to me.

My GL read is leaning town. My Luke read is more null. I didn't like him jumping on GL when Luke linked him to the wrong game. GL's response feels genuine. I think GL vs. Luke is TvT. Not sure why you have DV in there.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:29 pm

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WhemeStar, you have to vote the hydra, not one head of that slot.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:29 am

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As much as I dislike WhemeStar's play so far, I have to think he is town. I would think his scum buddies would be coaching him in the scum pt so he wouldn't be blundering around so badly.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:09 am

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In post 652, WhemeStar wrote:I think some players here can vouch it’s hard for me to keep up with scum PT’s

Hmmmm

For a while now I’ve been too broke to pay my electricity bill.

I’m in some dark times
VOTE: Juliet
Are you scum claiming here?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:12 am

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Yes, Juliet is at e-2 now.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:27 am

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Because you said that "some players here can vouch it's hard for me to keep up with scum pt's".

Are you saying I shouldn't town read you because you are blundering around? FYI the alternative is I scum read you for it. Which do you prefer?
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Post Post #658 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:39 am

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:P I agree Bowser. I think tomorrow's lim should be Wheme.

And Wheme, sorry to hear about your money problems. I hope it gets better soon.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:40 am

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In post 664, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 658, Skybird wrote:I agree Bowser. I think tomorrow's lim should be Wheme.
regardless of what JC flips, you'd want to lim Wheme tomorrow? Why not vote Wheme right now, why say this while your vote is on the same wagon he's voting?
Because his play is annoying me. :P.

I still like my JC vote. Tomorrow's vote will be decided tomorrow after flips and night actions.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:43 am

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Bowser, why did the earlier wagon on Wheme dissolve? I wanted to look at that over the weekend and ran out of time.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:59 am

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I can push on Wheme.

VOTE: Wheme
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Post Post #686 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:01 am

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That's a good point about a counter wagon.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 688, Child of Fairies wrote:I really don't love the lack of resistance to either of these wagons
Do you have an alternate player to push? I don't mind someone not liking the way the wagon is coming about, but I'd like to see involvement in where town should go.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:27 am

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JC, how many players have you tried to engage? I remember from your iso you tried to talk to Cephrir, but that is the only one I remember.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:44 pm

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In post 702, Juliet Capulet wrote:
In post 698, Skybird wrote:JC, how many players have you tried to engage? I remember from your iso you tried to talk to Cephrir, but that is the only one I remember.
I've tried to talk with you when you asked me about why I was voting GuiltyLion,

I responded but you didn't really respond back to me?

I've tried to talk to Spiffy about his DV read but he just ignored me.

Am I doing something wrong? It's just depressing to be ignored.
No, you are not doing anything wrong. Sorry I didn't respond to you. I saw your response and got sidetracked.

Keep trying to engage with others. Sharing your thoughts in thread is a good way to talk with others as well.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 756, Tamora's Angel wrote:
In post 750, Juliet Capulet wrote:
In post 747, Tamora's Angel wrote:If JC is scum, Skybird takes a dive. That's only in a JC scum world though.

Why would she do this if she was the first person to vote for me and call attention to me "not doing things"?
Bailing on a scumpartner's wagon at the first opportunity is scummy. Why would you care though? My argument depends on you scum. Arguing the point is ceding you're scum.
People would also say it was scummy for me to sit on JC'S wagon for so long. :shrug:

Someone said they were concerned about a lack of a counter wagon. (Sorry, phone posting so I can't look it up ) I thought it was a good point. I switched to see what might happen.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:16 am

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Not liking Wheme's claim, especially since he's claiming not to be able to activate it yet.

OTH, who do you want to vote if the current wagons don't interest you?
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Post Post #937 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:28 pm

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Ok, lots of screwy stuff going on. I don't even know what wheme is trying to claim. I definitely need to re-read all of that. But for now, I'll go back to Juliet.

VOTE: JC
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:51 pm

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Ok, I was confused by the wheme kill until I read he had claimed and then went back to his iso. Not sure how I missed that. :oops:

I don't know that I would link Pav to Juliet just because he wanted to keep her around. That statement was made pretty early and I don't think scum would want to provide any links to each other.
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #41) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:11 am

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OK, at my computer and hoping to actually get some time to put my thoughts in. I have two puppies that are still in the potty training stage which makes it hard for me to sit at the computer for any length of time.

Reading the crier's post in 1014 I see they said that Juliet claimed commuter but I don't remember seeing that from her. I do remember JC saying that she could send one last note. I believe that Juliet was not aligned with the loyal cast members, but don't know if she was scum or 3P.

Did anyone get anything from the second voice? I've read it a couple of times and not seeing anything that helps solve the game.

I see TA was burgled in the night. I was also relieved of my gold. Damn thief! Does this mean there are 2 roles that can steal?
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #42) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:14 am

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LLD, I hope you will speak at least a little today, even though you don't want to.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:18 am

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In post 1116, Bowser Jr. wrote:
In post 1075, fferyllt wrote:With 15 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.
Am I missing something? Shouldn't this be 8 votes to lim someone?

~Spiffy
Yeah, I'm thinking that should be 8, but maybe something weird is going on with the shortened day?
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 1118, Bowser Jr. wrote:Hi Skybird! Who do you want limmed today and why?

~Spiffy
Hi Spiffy! Sorry I didn't get to chat with you earlier. Hubby decided it was time to go to breakfast.

I'm looking at a couple of spots. TA's posting today has struck me as odd. I also want to look more at Galron and Wisdom. These last two because I really didn't notice them D1 and want to get a better feel for them, make sure they aren't flying under the radar.
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:19 am

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In post 1121, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 977, Juliet Capulet wrote:I am a commuter. I can do it two times total by drinking a potion and sleeping - I can buy more potions for quite a lot of gold.
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I have another ability that allows me to write a letter to you post-death and I will put more thoughts in there at night - currently I'm just very tired after a long day and would like some rest.
Thanks Luke.
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:14 pm

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I've read through Galron's iso a couple of times now and while nothing jumps out as scummy it feels very cautious, like he's trying to engage but not putting his thoughts out there.

VOTE: Galron
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:27 pm

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I'm thinking Wisdom is town. I don't get any bad vibes when I read his iso.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 1154, Icebox wrote:
In post 1152, Skybird wrote:I've read through Galron's iso a couple of times now and while nothing jumps out as scummy it feels very cautious, like he's trying to engage but not putting his thoughts out there.

VOTE: Galron
Please reword

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You're asking me to explain again, right?

Let me try again. He is putting out some reads but not pushing any of them. I keep coming back to it feels cautious. Does that help?

This is not a strong read for me at this time. But I want to see what happens.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #49) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:16 am

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How many of us lost our gold last night? I think there's at least 3 of us.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #50) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:11 am

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Visiting people is not something I can do.
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #51) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:33 am

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CoF was the poisoned player. No idea if she still is poisoned.
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #52) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:13 am

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This game is moving fast and I need to re-read from the start of this day 2 again because I don't understand how Galron's claim makes him town. (We need a scratching me head smiley.)
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #53) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:15 am

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I also need to do some work while I'm at work you know.
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #54) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 1383, Icebox wrote:Oh yeah, yep. I definitely failed that test.
They were even called caskets.
Woops.

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Is it possible failing this "test" is what loverized you with Galron?

Sorry if someone already asked this. It just stuck out on my re-read.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #55) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:02 am

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I'm not sure I believe Galron was robbed. I think claiming to be robbed is a good way to throw people off.
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #56) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:05 am

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Titus, you are pretty good with mechanics iirc. Is letting Halron live the best play here?
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:53 am

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I'm not good with mechanics.
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:09 am

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Glad to see we have a bit more time. I panicked this morning when I saw the thread locked.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:37 am

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Ok, I was looking back on stuff that happened last night and I don't think Galron was the person who robbed me. I got my wages at the end of day 1. It appears that I wasn't robbed until the dawn actions. My notice about the missing gold didn't come until start of day . Did it happen like this for anyone else?
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Post Post #1772 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:41 am

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I also received a piece of paper that had 4 lines of dialog that was there when I woke up.
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Post Post #1777 (isolation #61) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:57 am

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DV, I am thinking it was a dawn action because of the order and timing of the mod communications.

I thought for a while that maybe Galron visited Wheme at night and me at dawn, but I don't think his comparing action would work like that. But I'm the first to admit I don't know game mechanics that well.
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #62) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:02 am

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Ceph, you only have one vote on you if I read the vote count correctly.

Pedit- I would rather flip Galron too.
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #63) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:31 am

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Ceph, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to annoy you. FWIW, I don't see um read you.
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:43 pm

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I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:12 am

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In post 1949, Icebox wrote:Hey, so, Bowser Jr. Pavowski, Lukewarm and I are in
A scum PT together
a neighborhood and none of us are admitting to making it.
As all good townies do, you shouldn't post in them. It's bad.

I have already done my traditional dunking on of the scum team in these two neighborhoods and so,
for the third time: lmao.

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DV and I were put in a neighborhood last night too, but neither of us did it.

(Reading and commenting as I read through so DV may have already told you.)
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #66) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:32 am

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In post 1968, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1945, Skybird wrote:I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:
wait, wut?

Mafia apparently can steal 2 gold, but you were not one of those?

I thought only you and titus claimed to be stolen from, and therefore you were both confirmed town as the mafia targets
The way I read Galron's role was scum could steal from one person at a time. That's why I questioned the mod about my gold. Galron could also send lines of script to a person and receive a random snippet of their role. I received 4 lines of script that night. Galron killed Wheme and then delivered the script to me, explaining the track from GL.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:59 am

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In post 2115, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1928, fferyllt wrote:You cannot target the same player for steal and kill in a single night.
Since skybird didnt get stolen from and didnt receive a dialogue
What did galron target her with
When i saw the flip I assumed galron sent the dialogue to wheme since nobody else claimed to receive it
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Yes I did. I've quoted the post where I mentioned it on D2.
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Post Post #2170 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 am

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I wonder if the name of our PTs have any meaning.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm in a PT with DV. He Hasn't said much yet but I know he's in Australia. When I saw the PT I reviewed his slot because he feels like scum to me. I didn't see anything that made me feel different.

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Post Post #2185 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:35 am

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Forgot to mention earlier that we don't have the ability to add people to our PT. It ends at the end of night 3.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #70) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:06 am

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Wow, you all have written some very nice sonnets. I'm inspired to try my hand at it.

P-edit - I know DV said he was in communication with Juliet, but I don't think he is in communication with GL.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #71) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:20 am

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In post 2261, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2226, DeasVail wrote:Maybe GuiltyLion will have some wise words for us all. (It would be funny if he thinks I'm scum)
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Thanks Luke. I'm trying to talk with DV in our hood but he says he is time constrained and will post mostly in the thread. :cry:
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #72) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:42 am

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I just looked back at my PT with DV to see what he said about talking with Juliet. I had asked if he was surprised by the two scum flips. He said he was relieved and that he was in communication with Juliet day 2. He didn't say how though.
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Post Post #2304 (isolation #73) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:30 am

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I just fid a quick count and DV is at e-1.
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #74) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:05 pm

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In post 2351, Cephrir wrote:why didn't you target 2 scumreads
Yes, I was wanting to ask this question too.
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Post Post #2391 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:53 am

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In post 2354, Cephrir wrote:i cant do this. i just have too much going on right now and this distraction is too much. im sorry
Sorry to see you go, but I totally understand. Hope RL gets under control soon.
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:44 am

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OK, at my computer for a minute.

I would also like to voice my concern over LLD. I really didn't like the hard defending of Galron and wanting to keep him alive to be "useful". As the day progressed LLD even started to say she believed he was town. I haven't had a chance to go back through and pull up the posts but it all felt bad. But I don't have much experience with LLD. On one hand if LLD was scum, why go that hard to try and save a scum buddy. But if Galron was one of the names that needed to be alive to steal coins, maybe the hard defense was worth it.

I'm going back and forth on Pav. He was very towny for me D1. But I agree this whole loverization thing with Icebox is sus as was his activity on D2. I did check his profile and while he is new to the site he's played in games as both town and scum. Not sure I'd vote here today because overall he still feels more town than scum.

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Post Post #2401 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:01 am

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Hi Enchant!

The Loyal Troupe is doing pretty well so far. We have nailed 2 scum already. You probably want to iso Pav, OTH, and DV as those are being wagonned right now. But I also think you should look at LLD as some of us have expressed suspicion of that slot.
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Post Post #2410 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:20 am

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OTH, I've been through Pav's iso a couple of times already and he really doesn't mention Icebox very much. I'm not seeing much to indicate suspicion of the slot.
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:11 am

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Post Post #2418 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:12 am

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Guessed wrong
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #81) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:13 am

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Opps lots to go yet. Pages seem a lot longer on the phone.
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #82) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 2428, Pavowski wrote:My reads on OTH are tricky. I have some experience with Marci but only a little with GE. I am finding Gamma's posts scummier than Marci's, bit what I'm finding scummy about them is mostly their reactions to Luke's push on the slot.

All that is to say I generally townread the slot, bit given that I am townreading most of the slots in game at this point, the townread on OTH would be toward the bottom of the list.
So you are saying you don't have any scum reads?
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Post Post #2461 (isolation #83) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:47 pm

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So where do you stand on Titus, Dunn, and Ceph/Enchant right now? Anything changed for those 3?
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Post Post #2464 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:49 pm

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How are things going in your pt Pav?
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #85) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:22 am

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Luke, you have DV at the bottom of you half thought out reads list bot you are not voting him. Why?
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Post Post #2569 (isolation #86) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:24 am

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Thanks Luke. I've been re-reading and looking at iso's for any additional hints on who are scum and not feeling like I'm getting anywhere right now. :neutral:
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Post Post #2630 (isolation #87) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:07 am

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I'm going to sheep Titus.

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Post Post #2636 (isolation #88) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:35 am

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In post 2631, Wisdom wrote:Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies
Darn, I forgot.
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #89) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:56 am

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CoF can you get more specific about Wisdom and what is bothering you?
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:19 pm

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I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:08 pm

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Buy time for what though? Are you online now Gamma?
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 pm

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DV posted in our neighborhood that he thought if CoF was scum, you are probably scum as well.
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:06 am

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How is it strange? It's a paraphrase of what you said.
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:13 am

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VOTE: DV

We need to decide which way we are going. We have a little more than a day left.
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Post Post #2674 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:14 am

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I had asked for his thoughts on CoF and he said she was strong town. I questioned that because I didn't remember much from her iso. He said he would explain more later. Next he said CoF wasn't as town as he thought. He didn't think she was scum with Galron unless also scum with OTH.
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Post Post #2676 (isolation #96) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:33 am

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Yeah, everyone keeps saying they will wait until tomorrow to see what happens. The paranoid part of me doesn't believe the claim and we will see something awful happen.

Just another thought, doesn't this role seem kinda broken if there isn't a way to save herself? She says she can buy a potion but doesn't know what it will do.
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Post Post #2702 (isolation #97) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:29 am

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DV, I posted what I thought you said. I paraphrased the best I could. You know darn well I can't quote the 'hood exactly. I told you I wanted to talk with you so I could sort you and you have not said much of anything. Yeah you said you were busy. But you have made no effort in the 'hood to talk with me. I am just as annoyed as you are.
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Post Post #2747 (isolation #98) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:31 am

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Last reads list DV?
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #99) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:18 pm

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Yes Titus was robbed N1.
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Post Post #2768 (isolation #100) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:19 am

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I think we had some interesting night actions.
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Post Post #2770 (isolation #101) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:31 am

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Sorry DV.

I do think DV has a point about re-examining town reads as we go forward. One person I would like to look at is Wisdom.
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Post Post #2773 (isolation #102) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:34 am

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Ariel is a spirit from The Tempest.
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Post Post #2775 (isolation #103) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:40 am

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CoF said she was in a PT by herself so Ariel has to be her doing imo. Also, Ariel was bound to the magician Prospero in the play.
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Post Post #2776 (isolation #104) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 2774, Wisdom wrote:LLD is very likely scum yeah
I think you are the scum in that trio.
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #105) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:49 am

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Yes, I have a 2 shot block ability and I did use one shot last night to block Wisdom.
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #106) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:56 am

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I did not save/heal CoF for the record.
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #107) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:57 am

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Titus, are you still able to communicate with GL?
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Post Post #2829 (isolation #108) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:07 am

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So how did Bowser put a post restriction on Icebox? (Looking at Wisdom's potions)
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Post Post #2873 (isolation #109) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:42 am

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CoF's abilities seem really over powered to me. Especially the global protect stuff.
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Post Post #2874 (isolation #110) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:46 am

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CoF, what play are you really from?
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Post Post #2875 (isolation #111) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 am

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In post 2773, Skybird wrote:Ariel is a spirit from The Tempest.
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Post Post #2903 (isolation #112) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:58 pm

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I still feel that CoF's roll feels really over powered. I just re-read all the flipped players and they all have one main power and one secondary. CoF seems to be claiming like 3 abilities? Or am I reading wrong?

P-edit Luke seems to be thinking along the same line I am.
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Post Post #2911 (isolation #113) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:16 pm

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In post 2905, Lukewarm wrote:Who all has full claimed?

I did. Wisdom did. OTH did. Icebox did. Pav did. LLD did.

@Skybird claimed roleblocker - was that all?

@Titus you claimed your guess the night kill ability - was that all?

@Bowser Jr claimed to be a neighborizor in our hood - did that ability work last night? They also gave a post restriction. (That feels like a complete claim, but let me know)

Dunn and enchant I don't think I have seen anything from
No, I am also a bodyguard. I had to pick someone by EoD 1 to protect for the rest of the game. My gold ability was a potion that allows me to choose other people to protect. I was able to buy the potion last night.
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #114) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:46 pm

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I'm not comfortable letting CoF live. There are just too many lies.

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Post Post #2940 (isolation #115) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:15 pm

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I'm not a fan of Enchant's play so far.

Enchant, please start playing this game.
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #116) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:47 am

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In post 2953, Enchant wrote:
In post 2951, Icebox wrote:Wait, so you're saying that a claim of bulletproof would be suspicious so you wanted to lie about it?

-Bell
It's not suspicious, it's just turns useless.
Icebox wrote:I guess that explains OTH's earlier result. Why didn't you jail keep anyone tho?

-Bell
Why i should?
It's called trying to solve the game and find scum.

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Post Post #2956 (isolation #117) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:59 am

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Even if Enchant isn't scum, I doubt he is going to do anything useful. He Hasn't even attempted to read the game.

:facepalm:

Yeah, I'm just a bit miffed at the moment.
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #118) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:42 am

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We are past early game dude. At any rate since you refuse to read it doesn't matter anyway.
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #119) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:25 am

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Sorry if I was being toxic. This is the second game I have played with Enchant. Last game he didn't do anything either and he was scum. I know that's not much data for a meta read, but I am going to have to go with it for now.
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Post Post #2978 (isolation #120) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:59 am

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I have a hard time believing that CoF doesn't control the Ariel vote. I also don't believe the role claim. If he's town you'd think scum would have killed him by now.

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Post Post #2982 (isolation #121) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:08 am

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Why exactly do you prefer Enchant?
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Post Post #3010 (isolation #122) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:41 am

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What Wisdom said.

Enchant, if you are town, play the game. If you are scum, keep doing what you are doing.
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Post Post #3024 (isolation #123) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:37 am

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Ok, is there anyone that needs more time or wants to say/think about anything?

We have 4 days left but I don't think we need to take that long. I'm good with CoF or Enchant as the lim. I do agree that CoF is more likely to flip scum and would prefer to go there.
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Post Post #3034 (isolation #124) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:53 am

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I feel like activity has fallen off from a lot of people. And it does worry me that we are missing something.
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Post Post #3043 (isolation #125) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:51 pm

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In post 3039, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 3038, Child of Fairies wrote:Scum dreaming god isn't impossible, just rare since it's a really useless role for scum to end up with. None of my abilities so far would help scum in any way.
I don't think so. Shortening deadline means town has less ability to control where the vote goes because there's more pressure to compromise, and hoods are pretty strong pocketing tools for scum.

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Also, if you are scum, you could have decided with your team to forgo last night's killing opportunity to get town cred.
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Post Post #3051 (isolation #126) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:42 pm

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How was the Ariel vote announced?
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #127) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:42 am

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In post 3056, Enchant wrote:ATLEAST I AM RICHER THAN YOU
Is that a confession to stealing gold?
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Post Post #3091 (isolation #128) » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:50 am

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I'm fine with CoF being today's lim. Consider my vote on him. I don't have any night actions to discuss and I don't have enough coins to buy a potion.

If possible I would like to see the day end early. I got a part in the local theater group's production of The Cemetery Club and rehearsals start on Thursday.
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Post Post #3102 (isolation #129) » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:16 pm

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I don't know. Technically CoF hasn't flipped so the game can't be over yet.
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Post Post #3112 (isolation #130) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:09 pm

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Ditto what Icebox said.
I don't know where to go from here.
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #131) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:28 pm

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Looking at vote counts, I noticed that Icebox and Bowser, Jr look suspicious. What do other people think?
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Post Post #3119 (isolation #132) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:55 pm

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Pav, how did you get a hood with Bowser.
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Post Post #3201 (isolation #133) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:15 pm

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I'm ok taking time if we are all going to work on this.

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Post Post #3207 (isolation #134) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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It sucks that so much seems to have happened in this hood that not everyone was in.
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #135) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:51 pm

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I was thinking. The dawn crier posted yesterday that CoF's gold count not adding up. Then this morning the crier talked about the loverizing thing, shading Pav. It makes me think Pav is town.
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #136) » Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:24 am

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:twisted: Ok guys, what are people thinking?

One question I've been asking myself is why do I believe Pav about not being able to loverize without a potion? Is it possible that Pav is innocent and the scum team held off on using their lovers ability?

But that makes no sense to hold off. If they had done it sooner, Pav would have been limmed the next day. And yet the scum team was down 2 members pretty early in the game. Why not loverize 2 town earlier knowing they would get the 3rd town in Pav the next day?

The last 2 scum were Ceph/Enchant and unknown. I wasn't really suspecting Ceph until after Enchant replaced in. (I know other people were but I wasn't.) So the scum team may have been cautiously optimistic they could remain alive for a while.

Right now I am just throwing my thoughts out here trying to get conversations started.

Time to get ready for work. So someone jump in here and tell me how wrong I am about stuff. :D
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Post Post #3240 (isolation #137) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:50 pm

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In post 3235, Icebox wrote:Oh thank god Pokemon is ove
I can breath after screaming my head off for 3 weeks.

Can LLD still post? What do they think of Bowser's mechanics argument for why they can't be scum? I'm embarrassingly shitty at how roles work or how many actions scum can take in one night/day phase.

-Bell
LLD can't post again. She said she was a le to post because she brought a potion from Wisdom.

Do you think Dunn could be the last scum?

I understand what Bowser is saying and it does seem like he would have had too many actions to do to be the last scum. So I am torn. I 'd like to sheep LLD. But if scum can use loverize again and we don't lim them, town is in deep shit.
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Post Post #3244 (isolation #138) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:12 am

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Dunn, why?
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Post Post #3248 (isolation #139) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:38 am

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Dunn, how many scum do you think are left?
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Post Post #3254 (isolation #140) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:34 pm

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So real life is intruding on my game time tonight. I live in Wisconsin and we have some big storms going through.

But back to the game.

Dunn, why Bowser and not Pavowski?
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Post Post #3255 (isolation #141) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:37 pm

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Pav, are you and Bowser talking in your hood?
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Post Post #3260 (isolation #142) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 3256, Bowser Jr. wrote:Please be careful skybird!
Thanks, I will. So far the tornado warnings are to the south of me.
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #143) » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:12 pm

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I asked Dunn that because one of his posts made it sound like he thought there was more than one.
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Post Post #3273 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:09 pm

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I don't know for sure if Bowser is clear or not. I don't trust myself on any of this stuff.

I will say I don't like Dunn's response to stuff right now. He's being really passive.
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Post Post #3275 (isolation #145) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:47 am

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So do you want to vote Bowser?
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Post Post #3281 (isolation #146) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:02 pm

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Thanks Dunn, I appreciate you answering again. I'm ready to vote Bowser. Has everyone had enough time to think about it this game day?
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #147) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:16 pm

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If we lim Pav, we take out the only known loverizer. One of the things I've been wondering is do we have a scum with that ability.

One thing I just thought of was I didn't need to wait for my potion to become available. I just needed to get the right amount of gold.
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Post Post #3304 (isolation #148) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:45 pm

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In post 3296, Icebox wrote:
In post 3294, Skybird wrote:If we lim Pav, we take out the only known loverizer. One of the things I've been wondering is do we have a scum with that ability.

One thing I just thought of was I didn't need to wait for my potion to become available. I just needed to get the right amount of gold.
One context please.

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Not sure what you want.
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Post Post #3308 (isolation #149) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:05 am

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Ugh
VOTE: Pavowski
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #150) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:47 am

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Ugh because I don't know what to do.
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Post Post #3318 (isolation #151) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:33 am

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In post 3315, Icebox wrote:What potion are you talking about Skybird?

-Bell
The potion I could buy to break my bond of protecting the person I chose on D1. It allowed me to choose a different person each day.

The potion was available all game. I just needed to get the gold. If my potion was available all the time we, why wasn't Pavowski's?
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Post Post #3320 (isolation #152) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:56 pm

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In post 3317, Pavowski wrote:Sigh, I do apologize. The end of this week was ... difficult over here in Pav land
Sorry to hear your week was difficult. ((Hugs))
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Post Post #3324 (isolation #153) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:51 pm

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Since no one has had any coins stolen since the first night I think one of the redacted was Juliet. I also think both names were scum.
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #154) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:57 am

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In post 2343, Pavowski wrote:Okay, you guys are ready to run me up. Cool cool cool.

Might as well claim.

I'm Oberon's Flower. I make people fall in love. 'Twas I who loverized Galron and Icebox. I had a good scumread on Galron and I was nullish at best on Icebox after d1 (townier since then!). Several of you expressed that loverizing seemed like a scum ability; maybe it usually is (this is my first game with the mechanic), but this time it isn't. I had an ability and didn't want to die with it in my pocket. I do not know why they subsequently fell out of love, but something must have happened to nullify it because my ability was still "spent".

I can loverize again if the opportunity arises for me to repurchase the ability, but it hasn't come up yet, so I'm a vanilla townie right now. As such I do make sense as an elimination target, as until something unforeseen happens, I can't add any intel or affect the game in any meaningful way. I can think of one pair I'm curious to loverize if given the chance, but who knows if that'll happen or if you will let me live that long.

Anyway, watch the vote counts. There is opportunism afoot.

And I wrote you guys a damn sonnet, too.

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Post Post #3362 (isolation #155) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:59 pm

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I'm never lucky enough to be the night kill. I will be voting Dunn tomorrow.
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Post Post #3364 (isolation #156) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:04 pm

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But which team Pav?

Just so you know, if you flip scum I'll have a tough time believing you when we play together next. :P
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #157) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:45 am

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In post 3366, Dunnstral wrote:At least I voted right
Really? And why weren't you in here arguing for your choice? You barely added to the discussion.
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Post Post #3449 (isolation #158) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:04 pm

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This was a great game! I had a lot of fun playing with everyone. Congrats Bell on a well played game!
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Post Post #3455 (isolation #159) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:07 pm

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Good job Pav on loverizing 2 scum!
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Post Post #3459 (isolation #160) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:09 pm

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Icebox had a role copy action and used it to get Pav's lover action.
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Post Post #3522 (isolation #161) » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:29 am

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What game are you going to mod next ffery?
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Post Post #3524 (isolation #162) » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:30 am

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That would be great. I'm going to be pretty busy with the play for the next 6 weeks or so but will have plenty of time after that.
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Post Post #3531 (isolation #163) » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:36 pm

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In post 3525, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3524, Skybird wrote:That would be great. I'm going to be pretty busy with the play for the next 6 weeks or so but will have plenty of time after that.
Bird I remember you mentioning the play some weeks ago. What's the show? I'm a theatre bug myself
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Pav. The show is called The Cemetery Club and is a comedy about 3 widows and their responses to being alone.
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