mary oliver
VOTE: andante
just looking to fill my hot take quota for the day
mary oliver
ok ! ! !In post 116, Andante wrote:That’s a spicy take!!! Sounds like you have a reason for it, and I’d LOVE to hear it
i feel like im being strongarmed into wanting to townread you from you being likeableIn post 121, Andante wrote:wow… so spicy!! love it tbh!!!
going to wickedly dodge this question and say that you are also a Person of Interest so I would like to get to know u better. for examples: how are you doing rn? can you return to your state of mind from when you made this statement?In post 120, MagikHorse wrote:What cause do you have to hide it from the town at this stage of the game?
what feelings and thoughts were running through your head? did you think about how it would have been read when you wrote it or did you just think-and-send?In post 60, MagikHorse wrote:I don't need free town points.
i'm gathering evidence! if you act at someone they'll act right back!In post 169, Firebringer wrote:The tone dissonance, yeah first post sounds like hell is messing around with /annoyed sarcasm then the next post sounds not all aligned with that. Especially with previous ones. It’s big mood shifts
im interested in where you're going with both of these thingsIn post 171, Dwlee99 wrote:As much depth as a kiddie poolIn post 145, Scorpious wrote:wow 4 posts from DW in less than 20 minutes.. easy there hoss.. Town DWOkay you're town I understand tyvmIn post 149, MagikHorse wrote:-snip-
it should be clear that my post was not on-its-face genuine given that it didnt come with an unvote. im still invested in pushing andante but i'm not scumhuntingIn post 181, MagikHorse wrote:That could be said of every interaction, and says nothing at all about the tonal shift.
itsa bad read but i dont think its bad to point it outIn post 187, Dwlee99 wrote:Scorpius' read on me is weird and shortsighted and doesn't make much sense unless a tell that easy works on me (which I don't think it does)
im still sort of thinking which is why i havent been presenting it. its hard to gather conclusions from just a few one-liner back and forths:In post 197, Firebringer wrote:what evidence did u gather
a statement such as this has like a kaleidoscopic amount of psychology behind it though. if i were to try and pinpoint... it felt kind of like putting up a wall a little bit. but as i said. WIPIn post 128, Andante wrote:That’s not a bad thing!!! I’m town! Feel free to TR me
ya you. by push i guess i mean more like poke at so i think i used the wrong word. as far as identifying what ppl im interested in sorting, its mostly just if someone says something that makes me go "oh, interesting, hm." i would consider myself more of a micro player so as far as large playerlists go, for me its just sort of a gradual process of getting everyone figured out in my head. so right now im prioritizing based on gutIn post 278, Andante wrote:Your plan is just to push me? I'd love to hear more on how this plan plays out... like, you want to push me to get reads on... me? or reads on others? cause pushing me doesn't give reads on the others, and how do you identify which people you want to poke at?
IDK who morph the cat is but this actually rings slightly town to me. it seems like he picked up some cool new Scumhunting Idea from someone else in a game and is looking to try it out. maybe we're just picking up on different things about it. i can understand your other points on fabriacated read thoughIn post 280, Andante wrote:Why are you already proposing day1/day 2 passes?? like, just read people, propose a lim, go from there... like you can BET I'll be pushing a SR, and if someone is towny, they're getting a "pass" but it's not like I'm announcing official passes..
VOTE: Tejate Raichu
I think I'm putting my vote here for a while, he's not getting away that easily, probably my strongest SR here right now.
it felt fine to me ㅠㅠㅠㅠ but maybe i just like being talked to ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠIn post 318, Tejate Raichu wrote:287, subtle shade without actually trying to engage my slot. I don't think asking for thoughts on other players is very unusual or particularly scummy, but the way it's phrased in this post just has some ineffable bad energy about it for me. It feels agenda driven rather than earnest.
contrarily i think this is a fairly safe and desirable thing for scum to doIn post 382, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Spicy vote by going against the grain of townreads on Magik. Maybe town.
additionally, i dont like thisIn post 363, Frogsterking wrote:Yes I have done a lot of the work already and I keep procrastinating because of my perfectionism.
reads to me like "i dont want to be yelled at for not having a case but im also anxious about posting a case"In post 397, hellbooks wrote:additionally, i dont like this
about what? the game in general?In post 410, Firebringer wrote:hellbrooks did u find anything interesting yet
one request per day maxIn post 417, Firebringer wrote:ty for that info
i don't think ur vote is bad so u got that going for u.
now where is the movie reviews i was promised in signups
also literally thought thisIn post 504, Toogeloo wrote:I legit have been thinking it was called InTernal Affairs.
also thought that fire's push is fine / even good. pushes dont have to be logically perfect to yield resultsIn post 533, Radical Rat wrote:Having said that, my vote goes to Nero because jumping in to chainsaw Keeper over a pretty tame and reasonable push is much scummier, and a flip there is likely to shed light on Keeper themself.
literally laughedIn post 543, Toogeloo wrote:I claim Reverse Traitor. I know a scum team exists, but wasn't informed of their identities. I win when I expose them all and remove them. I can be alive or dead to achieve this win condition.
i actively disliked every sentence hereIn post 544, Galron wrote:Tejate wagon obv not going, and I'm not as sure about him as I was. Voting Frozen Angel was a decent thought when I was falling asleep, but not feeling it now. UNVOTE: Voting Keepter as a PL, meh. I could go either way I guess. I don't like 340 and would like to see a better answer there.
I dunno. Tejate still seems scummy to me.
reads like a bunch of self-conscious justification about wagon jumping + clumsy pivot into raichuIn post 544, Galron wrote:Tejate wagon obv not going, and I'm not as sure about him as I was. Voting Frozen Angel was a decent thought when I was falling asleep, but not feeling it now. UNVOTE: Voting Keepter as a PL, meh. I could go either way I guess. I don't like 340 and would like to see a better answer there.
I dunno. Tejate still seems scummy to me.
havent played in a hot min so i dont have the cutting edge data on this... but statements complaining about game state always move the needle slightly scumward for meIn post 551, Andante wrote:You sure we're reading the same game? I've definitely seen progression happening, and there's multiple 1v1's going on, so does zero flow mean... not reading?In post 369, Scorpious wrote:This game is weird, it has like zero flow
I was thinking about hopping over to galron but if people wanna vote frog then im just gonna put it in parkIn post 553, Andante wrote:ooh not liking the exact same thing as me!!! I think that's a good look!! Like that post from frogster is just so bad... "I have most of it done, it just has to be perfect" that literally sounds like me as maf going "yeah I'll have reads sometime, not yet though!" in hopes people forget and move on
omg?In post 555, Andante wrote:So if you have passion for a Tejate lim.. why have I seen 0 conviction for it in your lines? instead you're all "haha I'm maf" like, do you wonder why no one is listening to you? cause I think it's very obvious... go ISO yourself, and look at what we're dealing with
curious about this
elaborate (super important) (please put it at the top of your in-game to do list) (not clickbait)In post 581, Tejate Raichu wrote:Andante's recent posts are interesting, and I'll do some reconsidering of the slot.
the reason I asked you is because I thought that fact that you OMGUSed her when she was pushing you. and then, once the heat got taken off you, you decided to back away from that 1v1 without elaborating at all. you just said maybe i have to reevaluate her or something. i found that blatantly awkward and honestly a bit of a smoking gunIn post 653, Tejate Raichu wrote:I think I'm coming around on a null read for now. Null as in, I feel like I'm getting mixed signals rather than there's nothing there at all. Early posts (shortly after RVS) as I have already made apparent gave me scumvibes and I was not particularly fond of them. Their wallposts (particularly 553 and 555) gave me much more of an impression that they're actually trying to sort, even if I don't necessarily agree with every point presented in these posts. Disagreeing doesn't automatically make someone maf, and agreement doesn't automatically make someone town either. That being said, their earlier posts do still trouble me a bit and I think it might be easier to read the slot a bit later when there's more to be said. I came away from my re-read of Andante's ISO feeling conflicted more than anything.
ok i did laugh at thisIn post 656, The Keeper wrote:Since when does N_M come with an item pool?!
i think sheeping someone whose reads you think are good is genuinely not bad on like D1In post 673, Andante wrote:No problems with the above post? you sure? or is this the move where you go "I don't want conflict so I'm not pushing further"
did your passion for the tej push flicker out at some point?In post 705, Andante wrote:ok can we just discuss something else? like something actually relevant? If not galron/frogs today, then who?
honestly at this point i respect your iron will to hold out until you were ready to drop the case LOLIn post 722, Frogsterking wrote:Okay so I have a mess of four cases now, my original unfinished Magik scum case, a second Magik scum case I started working on after Magik's reaction to my push, the unfinished scum case for TR and the unfinished case showing the partner tells between Magik and TR. I need to get something out here so I tried combining the first and second case not allowing myself to start any more cases until I got something posted. That became a mess too so I'm posting this as it is.
i asked this back when they did it and they said this:In post 770, Nero Cain wrote:I'm hard skimming so maybe its been answered already but Feog why did you vote magic when there was a TR wagon already going? (at least at the time of your vote)
and ofc as we know, then displayed no initiative to actually create a wagon on magik at all (and i would argue that even now it feels slightly like frogster is not actually meaningfully trying to create a magik wagon)In post 360, Frogsterking wrote:@hell 350
There are enough days left to move the execution onto MagikHorse. I think it's pessimistic to assume Magik is a vanity wagon.
I'm more afraid of scum!Magik running away with the game compared to scum!Tejate.
are you inclined to say more about this?
do you not have any confidence in your own reads? do you have opinions about who is scum ?? whats with this?In post 1024, Toogeloo wrote:That's my elaboration.In post 1020, Toogeloo wrote:Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.
i told him... he should have saved the clipsIn post 1059, Tejate Raichu wrote:By the way, @mod can we get a VC please?
this question is actually like hard as heck because i feel like im in the upside down world but here is one answerIn post 1131, Firebringer wrote:who r u interested in hellbooks
sorry i actually think i remember you saying this and literally forgot it will keep it in mindIn post 1161, Andante wrote:uh what? I'm voting momo and explained why momo is maf. Tejate town, Magik maf.In post 1137, hellbooks wrote:i also want andante to elaborate on what she thinks about other slots than tejate.
so magik maf momo maf tejate town, and no one else is memorable
decent observation and i find it townyIn post 1165, Scorpious wrote:I have written this post over the years. Mostly as scum. Reasons to not have any cases or any real accountability on anything.
you know what they say about my posting... even a broken clock is right twice a dayIn post 1173, MagikHorse wrote:1137 is a diamond in the rough from them, and even that's a bit shaky.
doubt this is a bus. if it were she has less towncred to gain from it seeing as though its sort of a proxy
you're not wrong. im getting complacent and demotivated due to the game state, which is intersecting with life kind of blowing up this week. im starting to focus more on solving outside of the people ive been talking about though.In post 1201, MagikHorse wrote:now today they're just sort of coasting with Nero.
okay reading this I think you are overstating how much you elaborated on these reads... i guess if you're disavowing them then it doesnt matter as much and i read that as town sort of getting demotivated with the weird pace of the game. but you sort of created a dichotomy between magik and tej and then deemed tej to be town and so... magik is scum by poe? i find it way more scummy that frog threw out tej as a partner and then basically never elaborated on it or committed to it.In post 1161, Andante wrote:uh what? I'm voting momo and explained why momo is maf. Tejate town, Magik maf.In post 1137, hellbooks wrote:i also want andante to elaborate on what she thinks about other slots than tejate.
so magik maf momo maf tejate town, and no one else is memorable
curious: what do you think of this interaction:In post 1201, MagikHorse wrote:Andante/Galron/Keeper are the ones I'm actively scumreading the most at this time
andante says this.In post 995, Andante wrote:I still think frog v galron was maf v maf.... there's no way this is town galron.. all game galron has been "pretending to be maf" or whatever he's doing...
then later, galron reminds me that andante scumreads him for.... what reason exactly? idk what to make of it so would like ur input -- how does it fit in your solve?In post 1157, Galron wrote:Couple of things, I think Andante scum reads me
yeah I'll figure out how to put it into words later tyIn post 1209, MagikHorse wrote:If you think there's something in particular I should look for, please feel free to drop it in the thread and I'll take a good look.
It doesn't make sense that you would say this:In post 1201, MagikHorse wrote:I didn't like Hell's D1, they kinda half supported the Frog push without looking like they were willing to commit to it
so.... whats up with that?In post 1173, MagikHorse wrote:The only reason I'm not scumreading them is that they started the wagon on Frog.
reading through Andante's ISO a second time, I dont feel as confident as I did in this yesterday but I said I would elaborate...In post 1207, hellbooks wrote:IDK, andante reads town to me. i feel like theres environmental storytelling of her sort of thinking about the game and working through a solve