HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ahoy sailors! This one was bored a little while back and thought to itself, "Hmm... What if this one got a gimmick?". So, it did! Presenting:

DOLL DIVINATION!

™

Wherein this one uses a real, physical deck of tarot cards to try and predict the game!* At the start of each Day, it shall draw three cards to determine what the Day might be like, and an additional fourth for the Night! This is a foolproof** method of solving the game, it assures you. If it dies, then uh, oops! But also it will continue to draw cards for the benefit of spectator chat.

(*This one is, believe it or not, not actually skilled in tarot reading and interpretation, or any other form of divination, and all meanings are sourced from biddytarot.com. Take everything with a grain or five of salt because **no it is not.)

Without further ado, the cards for Day and Night 1 as follows:

D1-1:

Five of Pentacles

- Financial loss, poverty, lack mindset, isolation, worry.

D1-2:

The Moon

- Illusion, fear, anxiety, subconscious, intuition.

D1-3:

Ten of Wands

- Burden, extra responsibility, hard work, completion.

N1:

Ace of Pentacles

- A new financial or career opportunity, manifestation, abundance

Seems like a lot of fear and worry in the early to middle of the day, before an uphill but rewarding wagon! Maybe! No idea what career opportunities or manifestations could take place tonight, though.

Now er, kindly don't throw this one overboard for witchcraft!

[HighPrincessErinys]

Oh yeah and RVS. We should probably deal with the flea problem on the ship...
VOTE: Flea The Magician

[HighPrincessErinys]

I am Miller.

That is all good night.

Well well well, if it isn't the early claim!

[HighPrincessErinys]

I am Miller.

That is all good night.

Well well well, if it isn't the early claim!

Miller is a required post 1 claim on this site

News to this one but makes sense, outside of the possibility of fakeclaim and yadda yadda not important to consider right now.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Going to tack Mala as conftown for the time being and not worry about if that's a fakeclaim or not.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: radical rat

Is commenting on the picture in our role pm allowed??

Would probably presume not.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HPE
not rvs, going off vibes

Is it the paganism?

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

Hey, never said this one is a professional.

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE

Is 12 really all you have to say on the cards you drew? You can't elaborate any further about what they mean?

Hey, never said this one is a professional.

That's true. How do you expect to improve though if you won't try to deliver when an audience asks for more?

Hmm, suppose you're right. Let's give it a go then.

Financial loss, poverty, and lack mindset all encapsulate the present situation quite well, indeed, possibly more than the latter two keywords. Shortage on treasure does things to a crew... This would propel The Moon into a more immediate spotlight however, as the three cards can easily be interpreted as past present and future. Our past is a lack of booty, our present is the fear and anxiety of a possible mutiny, and the intuition required to find the mutineers, and our immediate future has hard, likely grueling, work in store for us. As for the Ace of Pentacles... This one must admit it's stumped, as it's not like there's career opportunities at the bottom of the ocean, nor is it going to start raining gold and jewels. The most it can think of is some kind of recruitment, but there's no way the mutineers could convince anyone not already in their treacherous clique to join them. We might just have to see what happens to know what the card alludes to.



In other news, this one will be waiting for more crew to turn up and say their piece (and for those present already to say more!) to start really digging into things.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Theres strong crossovers in this list to the frog/eira game recently, so I'm going to try to keep open minded to hpe and elements.

Forgot to say and you reminded this one; hi Bella!

VOTE: killing joke

VOTE: elements

Half unrelated: Explanations on these votes would be nice, especially when it can kind of see the Elements vote but would like more thoughts from others.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HPE
not rvs, going off vibes

What about its vibes feel off?

I didn’t like its post that said “Well, here comes the early claim.” It felt slightly off and contrived. Just a weak early read though.

To be fair this one genuinely wasn't aware of "Miller instaclaims", so.


Call this a prodge because this one isn't awake enough to properly read, it thinks, and it'll be busy soon for a while. Vague skim makes it not a super big fan of StD but it's not gonna vote on the slot until it's cognizant.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ouuuuuh this was a lot. After reading from 117, this one's main thoughts are: Joker had a half-decent case against StD early on, but that's since kinda crumbled. His tone is kinda wacky and his points against Elements, Flea, and StD have all gotten out of whack, but it honestly... doesn't scumread him all that much. It feels like town misplaying rather than scum shitpushing from what it knows firsthand of his meta. Some of Harley's later posts (i.e. 265 immediately under Flea stating that faer not ignoring her at all and 267 saying NO YOU TOTALLY ARE IGNORING ME) feel

bad

though.

That being said! StD doesn't look so good either even if Joker's case isn't quite so good anymore. His ISO is very dodgy in general but in particular 231 is just groanworthy. Scumlean here, and can't help but feel his reactions and posts have built a more convincing case against himself than the logic Joker was levying.

Going to say that this one also somewhat strongly townreads Flea, this one likes faer posts and points quite a bit.

Theres strong crossovers in this list to the frog/eira game recently, so I'm going to try to keep open minded to hpe and elements.

Forgot to say and you reminded this one; hi Bella!

VOTE: killing joke

VOTE: elements

Half unrelated: Explanations on these votes would be nice, especially when it can kind of see the Elements vote but would like more thoughts from others.

What

do

you see?

That this one didn't like Elements' ISO very much, and still doesn't. Scumlean on Elements.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Fuck it, VOTE: Save The Dragons

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ouuuuuh this was a lot. After reading from 117, this one's main thoughts are: Joker had a half-decent case against StD early on, but that's since kinda crumbled. His tone is kinda wacky and his points against Elements, Flea, and StD have all gotten out of whack, but it honestly... doesn't scumread him all that much. It feels like town misplaying rather than scum shitpushing from what it knows firsthand of his meta. Some of Harley's later posts (i.e. 265 immediately under Flea stating that faer not ignoring her at all and 267 saying NO YOU TOTALLY ARE IGNORING ME) feel

bad

though.

That being said! StD doesn't look so good either even if Joker's case isn't quite so good anymore. His ISO is very dodgy in general but in particular 231 is just groanworthy. Scumlean here, and can't help but feel his reactions and posts have built a more convincing case against himself than the logic Joker was levying.

Going to say that this one also somewhat strongly townreads Flea, this one likes faer posts and points quite a bit.

Theres strong crossovers in this list to the frog/eira game recently, so I'm going to try to keep open minded to hpe and elements.

Forgot to say and you reminded this one; hi Bella!

VOTE: killing joke

VOTE: elements

Half unrelated: Explanations on these votes would be nice, especially when it can kind of see the Elements vote but would like more thoughts from others.

What

do

you see?

That this one didn't like Elements' ISO very much, and still doesn't. Scumlean on Elements.

Fuck it, VOTE: Save The Dragons

there is no analysis going on and the hesitation makes me worry. If HPE is town, why is there hesitation to get on my wagon? Furthermore, what's dodgy? What's wrong with the post listed (it's a jokey post but it's how I see the game, i don't know how you could scumread it without explaining why)? Why do you tr flea?

I think this has the best chance of hitting scum.

VOTE: HPE

This one kinda hates your ISO, kinda loves Flea's. Your respective vibes from your ISOs are "rancid" and "pretty good" and this one appreciates the way Flea has been arguing against Harley, even if it's mostly a duel about metas this one doesn't know a lick about, nor cares to read up on.

Your

ISO is full of filler, and it doesn't just mean the post wasting, and you generally just haven't posted much meaningful content, similarly to Elements. Beyond this it's mostly just vibes and how this one views the attitudes you've both taken in your posts. It wasn't "hesitation" so much as just letting the post sit for a moment and thinking on this one's own points, there was less than 10 minutes between the two posts, after all.

this took way too long to post. bleh, business...

[HighPrincessErinys]

Happy scumday to Harley.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I'm reading more than I'm posting...

Hpe is town too, I scum read that one for being informed and strange in our last game and vigged them n1. It was a mason. Not having history repeat there.

Feel like asking even if this one doesn't think it applies: Do you think this one is being informed and strange here too?

Catching up from my last...

...Erinyes - Love feels like a very strong word for what you've said about my ISO, anything in particular that is standing out to you or is it just on vibes at the moment?

A little hyperbole never hurt anyone. But it is mostly vibes and "hey that was a pretty good point", yes. Again, this one can't comment on the intricacies of you and Harley's meta with each other, nor does it want to go and become able to, and based on both of your posts after the fact it is not a good idea to either. In other words, it can't say what exactly it likes about it, just that it does.

HPE is not solving HPE is not analyzing HPE had hesitation in voting me because it doesn't want to look too suspicious jumping on my wagon.

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

[HighPrincessErinys]

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

i feel like you're picking the easiest argument to argue.

did you provide analysis? do you have a reason why my posts are scummy?

This one's said it before, alot of it is just surface-level or outright filler. A good number of your posts are just extensions of things that could've been one post, which a decent amount of time itself doesn't really say anything. You're really just coasting along in this one's opinion, even in your fight against Joker.

[HighPrincessErinys]

i don't think that's anaylsis and i don't think that's relevant to my alignment seems like a playstyle thing, no?

Maybe, but this one doesn't really have enough firsthand experience to say whether or not it is just your playstyle.

[HighPrincessErinys]

k so if we're at maybe, like what about it is coasting in a scum way and what about it is coasting in a potential playstyle way

Some of the things you say in 189 are not particularly useful and feel like filling the post out, especially just going "dunno" on a question asking about Elements, not you. 192 makes a point, then doesn't elaborate on it. That feels like scummy coasting. Repeatedly one-lining to ask "who would be scared of Frogster's BoP?" feels more like filler from playstyle and manner of speech.

One other thing to note however is how you hint at knowing/seeing something no one else does that motivates your vote against KJ in 127, and go on to not explain this in 130 and 134. Additionally, in 187, you appear to admit that you didn't really have any special knowledge:

Now. for killing joke. i wasn't really intending to do the same thing i did in temple to determine nancy's alignment, it wasn't a reaction test for nancy, it wasn't really a reaction test at all, i just wanted feedback on it. And to note, because of temple, it wasn't going to work again, so i didn't do it to test nancy.

You had essentially plopped a naked vote onto KJ, said you had an ace up the sleeve, and then when you pulled your sleeve up, there was nothing there. This one feels like the feedback period has passed, so please, if you do indeed have an ace in your hand, pit it against the Joker's joker for us.

sorry but this one was morally obligated to make card puns

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: High Princess Energy

And what's this for?

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

i feel like you're picking the easiest argument to argue.

did you provide analysis? do you have a reason why my posts are scummy?

This one's said it before, alot of it is just surface-level or outright filler. A good number of your posts are just extensions of things that could've been one post, which a decent amount of time itself doesn't really say anything. You're really just coasting along in this one's opinion, even in your fight against Joker.

So the issue is the quantity not quality?

It's both, this one would say, but now that its noticed its VERY curious if StD will answer this one's question about what he saw in KJ that made him for them. Maybe more interested in that than the coasting at this point because its a kind of weird thing to say and then just drop quietly.

[HighPrincessErinys]

hello friends who's mafia

Welcome aboard sailor! You should know who my money's on by now.

is that it feels like he is trying to keep interactions to a minimum, and that while doing things that are supposed to get him townread.

this doesn't feel true either

if i wanted to get townread why would i attack the top poster

if i wanted to keep interactions to a minimum, why would i post so damn much

Because you claimed to have something up your sleeve, and because you heavily split posts that could be condensed, not actually post a lot.
Your bluff on voting KJ got called so you've just reverted to "Well why would I do what I literally did if I was scum, hmmmmm??" and not giving a convincing explanation otherwise when it's very clear you bluffed on knowing something and were banking on people believing you. Hilariously it seems like barely anyone acknowledged the bluff in the first place, besides like, Eiralox in 133.

[HighPrincessErinys]

i didn't bluff, i stated my reasons for voting KJ

It's a bluff if you never elaborate on it or consistently mention it in your reasoning or talk about it after the fact at all.

here's a fun exercise

anyone in the thread - name one read HPE has that isn't me!scum

Here's some.

[HighPrincessErinys]

first off, i don't know what you're talking about, i did talk about my reasoning in 187 you can disagree with it but you can't just ignore the fact i said something about it and call it a bluff

second of all, you posted a post where you basically attack me

you say flea's vibes are better and that's "some" reads?

o.O

This one talks about You, KJ, Elements and Flea, and gives it's reads on all of them. Stop pulling my leg.

[HighPrincessErinys]

i don't see a read on KJ in that post

i asked for reads besides mine and you give one on flea and i guess i missed one elements. it's not the home run you seem to think it is

This one understands where it went wrong, should've linked to 283 which, to be fair, is quoted in the post it linked to*. THAT has the KJ and Elements reads in question, though this one imagines you could've read that for yourself considering *this.

[HighPrincessErinys]

gimli is probably scum

Why?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ouuuuuh this was a lot. After reading from 117, this one's main thoughts are: Joker had a half-decent case against StD early on, but that's since kinda crumbled. His tone is kinda wacky and his points against Elements, Flea, and StD have all gotten out of whack, but it honestly... doesn't scumread him all that much. It feels like town misplaying rather than scum shitpushing from what it knows firsthand of his meta. Some of Harley's later posts (i.e. 265 immediately under Flea stating that faer not ignoring her at all and 267 saying NO YOU TOTALLY ARE IGNORING ME) feel

bad

though.

Can you talk a bit more about why you're not scum reading KJ?

That being said! StD doesn't look so good either even if Joker's case isn't quite so good anymore. His ISO is very dodgy in general but in particular 231 is just groanworthy. Scumlean here

Talk more about this as well please.

That this one didn't like Elements' ISO very much, and still doesn't. Scumlean on Elements.

And this one as well, please!

A lot of vague reads here.

foreword: this one meant to reply to this but took too long and then accidentally closed the tab so this will probably be a bit lower quality than if it didnt goof.


1) Well, beyond the general impression this one from gets from experience of KJ/Joker being town, its because despite the fact that this one doesn't really agree with his case, as he's mostly arguing about meta it doesn't particularly care for, it doesn't think his case being bad comes from a scummy place. Like, we SIMPLY disagree, the case just doesn't really gel with this one, there's nothing scum about it.

2) This one, after that post, has since elaborated on StD's ISO, so hopefully that suffices.

3) Elements' ISO has a case similar to StD: Filler. Ignoring NAI things like playing chess, a number of posts just feel like they're not really saying anything of substance. 238 and 239 in particular. Just kinda bleh vibes overall.

[HighPrincessErinys]

You really vastly underestimate this one's willingness to ride the wagon. There isn't really anything this one can do to convince you "Actually, it was NOT hesitation!" though, it imagines.

i feel like you're picking the easiest argument to argue.

did you provide analysis? do you have a reason why my posts are scummy?

This one's said it before, alot of it is just surface-level or outright filler. A good number of your posts are just extensions of things that could've been one post, which a decent amount of time itself doesn't really say anything. You're really just coasting along in this one's opinion, even in your fight against Joker.

So the issue is the quantity not quality?

It's both, this one would say, but now that its noticed its VERY curious if StD will answer this one's question about what he saw in KJ that made him for them. Maybe more interested in that than the coasting at this point because its a kind of weird thing to say and then just drop quietly.

I am pretty sure your question was answered long ago at the time you're questioning. I personally feel StD has done more than you currently given I've been able to start developing a read there.

Is anyone else standing out for you at the moment?

This one already put Mala into conftown for the time being for the Miller claim, but it also doesn't super like their ISO or votes starting with 361. Would like if they could elaborate on their andres vote and their newfound desire to vote Gimli. Bella looks good so far but wouldn't call her a full townread. Enchant is... Enchant. Can't decide if null or scumlean. Eira seems fine and this one disagrees with StD's earlier assessment that his opening post is scummy (when IS an opening post actually scummy?), think maybe they could be posting more content? No-elim vote feels kinda NAI also based on the RP. Wayward Son's ISO looks good, very good vibes in general even if nothing particularly stands out. Not ENTIRELY free of bad (mentioning the chess, 88 which

is

kind of a weird thing to ask? Dunno.), but a good feeling about him overall. That's about everyone this one has an actual lean on who hasn't been previously mentioned. Gut read is that Gimli's wagon is shit and he's townlean but need to actually investigate that.

Can you expand on those?

Save The Dragons (6):

Killing Joke

,

Wayward Son

,

ActionDan

,

HighPrincessErinys

,

Eiralox

,

Gimli

.

Green is town

Gimli

i'm still trying to figure out how to read gimli, but considering we just played dance game where i wasn't scum, and we just played doctor game where i wasn't scum, why doesn't he have pause when thinking i'm scum or not in this game? he feels like he did in temple game, where he was scum.

This doesn't seem like a very solid case for someone in completely red as a scumread. Or a case at all, for that matter. Beyond the fact that being town like twice or thrice in a row doesn't mean you're going to be town again, you seem to contradict yourself here with that last line too. He doesn't seem to be pausing to think on if you're scum or not, and when he DID pause he was scum. Kinda paper-thin read vibes.

[HighPrincessErinys]

if only i elaborated anywhere else in the thread

oh wait i have

gimli comes in and tries to spout out the most "least controversial" opinions that people have

i guess my point is you seem so confident i'm scum but you have had trouble reading me in the past, why are you so confident this time? maybe i'm the idiot and can't see what i'm doing differently but i don't really see it, this is my town game.

For the first quote, maybe, his early ISO does feel "safe". The second quote though still seems to this one like just a reiteration of "hmm, that's strange, you weren't confident as SCUM... now you're CONFIDENT?" which just doesn't. Make sense?

[HighPrincessErinys]

i don't think i said he wasn't confident as scum?

Can you expand on those?

Save The Dragons (6):

Killing Joke

,

Wayward Son

,

ActionDan

,

HighPrincessErinys

,

Eiralox

,

Gimli

.

Green is town

Gimli

i'm still trying to figure out how to read gimli, but considering we just played dance game where i wasn't scum, and we just played doctor game where i wasn't scum,

why doesn't he have pause when thinking i'm scum or not in this game? he feels like he did in temple game, where he was scum.

Seems like it to me.

[HighPrincessErinys]

It seems we are at an impasse because to this one that seems blatantly like what you're saying there.

[HighPrincessErinys]

we are at an impasse because you are actively choosing to read it wrong. that is not what i am saying

Then perhaps you ought to have worded it better because "actively choosing" is incorrect, it is on the contrary genuinely very hard to read it any other way to this one.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Actively choosing implies Fenrir thinks HPE is scum, no?

Well, he evidently does, misunderstanding or not.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hm.
Need to check VC, will do that on my computer when im home.
For now my vote is spiritually on Passenger while I read back whats happened tonight properly and check my wires are not once again crossed.

HPE goes on the watch list - another wilful misconstructor.

Everyone is assuming malicious intent......

[HighPrincessErinys]

I would recommend reading the thread I've done lots of hunting

Single-minded hunting, at best. The majority of your hunting has been poking at KJ and me, otherwise you've just been posting surface level reads on people and sheeping Mala on Gimli. If you could hunt more and expand on your reads in 513 through 519, that'd be great.


As for my investigations into Gimli's ISO: Would say he's a strong townread. His ISO looks very good in general and on re-evaluation this one thinks the parroting thing isn't actually all too present except maybe his first few posts but that's pretty insignificant. His ISO's structure doesn't lend itself to picking out particular posts but it likes his stances about the wagon comps and StD.

Think if it's gonna vote anyone other than StD it'd probably be Elements but the likelihood its hopping off the StD wagon is slim to none, it thinks.

[HighPrincessErinys]

thank you to people who recognize this is way outside my scumgame

Your read on HPE seems pretty stale as well, speaking of stale reads

Hpe stale read: I disagree, there's been nothing but rocks thrown my way from that slot so it's hard to update that read. Alternatively, I've given reads on several players despite what people are saying, and people are willfully choosing not to engage with me on them.

If that's true then we're both going uncredited for having more reads than people make out.


That being said, this one thinks its alright with voting off Passenger today. Holding off on voting for now because this is basically E-1 due to the presence of Enchant, and this one thinks giving him time to claim and for others to say any last piece on him is good.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Passenger
Starting to second guess an StD elim today.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Passenger
Starting to second guess an StD elim today.

Very interesting.


What about what Killing Joke said?

Kinda silly! Joker should have NO way of knowing if StD is really a scum PR or not. In other words, his insistence on StD on the specific grounds of "That's the scum PR! Get him instead!" doesn't click for me and this one thinks either Passenger OR StD should be fine in his book. Its weird, and this one wants him to expand on it, though he seems reluctant to hardclaim even though they evidently have big insight (even though claiming such things but not HARDclaiming just paints a target on their backs either way without giving town much reason to support them).

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one hasn't had a good and easy time keeping up but yeah it doesn't think you're looking too good either Elements.

[HighPrincessErinys]

The cards for Day and Night 2 are as follows:

D2-1:

Eight of Swords

- Negative thoughts, self-imposed restriction, imprisonment, victim mentality.

D2-2:

The Devil

- Shadow self, attachment, addiction, restriction, sexuality.

D2-3:

Three of Wands

- Progress, expansion, foresight, overseas opportunities.

N2:

Two of Pentacles

- Multiple priorities, time management, prioritisation, adaptability.

The Ace of Pentacles from yesterday seems to have revealed it's play: The opportunity was the passing of a passenger, Passenger. More on that later, as for today... No doubt the crew is feeling a bit ashamed and guilty about the deaths of two loyal crewmembers, so the Eight of Swords certainly fits. The Devil and His negativity too will hinder us it seems, and the dark sides of the crew coming to light. Finally, the Three of Wands and Two of Pentacles feel somewhat linked. At the end of the day, perhaps some progress in the crew's favor will be made, or a prescient play will be made, and then when night falls it'll be up to the town to follow up on what is revealed by it. Hard to say exactly.

...As for Fenrir and Passenger. This one is starting to heavily question KJ, and Joker in particular, and how much of a help they really are to the crew when both of their suspects turned out to be good and true crewmen...

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one is going to be busy for a bit so it will place it's vote now so as not to be wholly useless until its back.
VOTE: Killing Joke

[HighPrincessErinys]

The cards for Day and Night 2 are as follows:

D2-1:

Eight of Swords

- Negative thoughts, self-imposed restriction, imprisonment, victim mentality.

D2-2:

The Devil

- Shadow self, attachment, addiction, restriction, sexuality.

D2-3:

Three of Wands

- Progress, expansion, foresight, overseas opportunities.

N2:

Two of Pentacles

- Multiple priorities, time management, prioritisation, adaptability.

The Ace of Pentacles from yesterday seems to have revealed it's play: The opportunity was the passing of a passenger, Passenger. More on that later, as for today... No doubt the crew is feeling a bit ashamed and guilty about the deaths of two loyal crewmembers, so the Eight of Swords certainly fits. The Devil and His negativity too will hinder us it seems, and the dark sides of the crew coming to light. Finally, the Three of Wands and Two of Pentacles feel somewhat linked. At the end of the day, perhaps some progress in the crew's favor will be made, or a prescient play will be made, and then when night falls it'll be up to the town to follow up on what is revealed by it. Hard to say exactly.

...As for Fenrir and Passenger. This one is starting to heavily question KJ, and Joker

in particular, and how much of a help they really are to the crew

when both of their suspects turned out to be good and true crewmen...

Are you suggesting to policy us?

:igmeou:

Suggesting you might be a misleading mutineer, actually.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HighPrincessErynis

Good for now. Look at Dan and BBT. Hope to hear from others. G'night.

What's this for exactly?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Mutiny.

And what exactly makes you suspect this one of mutiny? You haven't been elaborating all too much on your reads today and have been ping-ponging between votes besides. Would like if you could change that instead of being vague.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I want HighPrincessErinys and BBT. I can't see any reason I'm killed if they aren't scum. Enchant and Elements are ok compromises but I'd hope to see something in my reads on my last day.

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys

How does that make sense exactly? What exactly makes you think that this one or BBT would absolutely have to be scum for you to be the nightkill, especially when this one hasn't really interacted with you to begin with?

[HighPrincessErinys]

I want HighPrincessErinys and BBT. I can't see any reason I'm killed if they aren't scum. Enchant and Elements are ok compromises but I'd hope to see something in my reads on my last day.

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys

How does that make sense exactly? What exactly makes you think that this one or BBT would absolutely have to be scum for you to be the nightkill, especially when this one hasn't really interacted with you to begin with?

How do you account for all of these posts after Titus soft inno’d us, yet you don’t unvote us and say absolute nothing about that?

Because this one doesn't innately believe you not having visited anyone makes you innocent, at least from the impression it gets of how Tracker and factional kills work. Claiming some nebulous PR that somehow magically had insight into Fenrir's role on D1 so you could try and get him elimmed is also just a bluff that is making it extremely wary of you, town or not.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think it was a town bluff tho

After giving it a thought last night before bed, this one supposes that might true, considering its essentially the same gambit Fenrir tried to do at the start of the day and then subsequently failed to, and then flipped crew. Doesn't change the fact that being tracked to no one isn't an instant exoneration when goons exist, like KJ seems to think. Like, do correct this one if it's wrong but pretty sure anyone from scum can go and do the kill, and thus if a non-goon or OTHER goon does it then oh, a goon doesn't get tracked to Titus. Either way, this one doesn't scumread KJ off of that, it's just kinda NAI imo. And since it's NAI in my book, off to read them based on other things! Like say, committing murder via fake PR softing, and their overall play. This one thinks its kinda lost focus on this game in general but it does not have a lot of confidence in crew!KJ after both Fenrir and Passenger flipped crew.

KJ, you're not innocent just because Titus visited you and you didn't go anywhere.

The whole scum team don't all travel together for a kill. You can be scum and NOT perform a kill.

Just want to clear that up.

+1.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also not sure where you're getting me/Elements as scumbuddies considering this one's been doubting and scumreading her for a good while.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also not sure where you're getting me/Elements as scumbuddies considering this one's been doubting and scumreading her for a good while.

Who, do you think, if you can provide two monikers for the fumbling public, are mutineers?

KJ and Elements are an obvious two, but this one wants to find a third. That's kind of hard considering how much focus has gone into most people who aren't StD or KJ, that is to say, very little. If it had to pick a third suspect it kind of wants to say Mala and her kind of wacky posting? The unexplained bloodlust towards Andres/Gimli's slot too. Feel free to call that low effort, this one hasn't had breakfast yet and is not reading ISOs again at the moment. Can actually try and give you a more thought-out read later.

[HighPrincessErinys]

KJ/Elements as a team is pretty shit looking yeah but their actual play both has me thinking. There is at least 1 scum between the two of them, for sure.

[HighPrincessErinys]

No one else, it guesses? Again, pending further review of some ISOs. Feeling good about Flea and Wayward/Gamma, at the very least.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I don't get guilties and I not full claiming so scum might kill me

You've already claimed investigative, you're a giant target now (if the claim is true, that is).

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yeah think it's just the flavor text description. You can claim role name.

[HighPrincessErinys]

UNVOTE: KJ This one is no longer super sure on what to make of things and will be busy for the next few hours so uh. Will try and make sense of the situation more then.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Going to have to apologize for the subpar result of "nothing new actually" in terms of scumreads because this one doesn't have as much motivation or energy to do a real ISO dive. If it had to give its main townreads and leans that would probably be Wayward/Gamma, Flea, Enchant to a degree, Gimli and ActionDan somewhat, and this one wants to put BBT into a slight townlean but honestly it has not been paying enough attention to his posts to do so. Titus is also obviously conftown. It is pretty confident that KJ/Enchant has one scum between them, but it's not likely to be two. Anyone not mentioned this one doesn't have much of an opinion/is neutral on for one reason or another.

Please watch the pronouns, also.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Huh, this one ISN'T dead yet.
This one is... interested, in how erratic Eiralox's play has been wrt this one and its wagon, and it can concur with the point of this being an absolute flashwagon too, and it can't help but feel town is going to regret ending the day

this

soon regardless of how it flips. Overall Eira is feeling rather towny because this one imagines scum would absolutely leap onto a E-2 easy mislim this early, and its certain there's scum even outside of its two prime suspects on the wagon.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think it was a town bluff tho

After giving it a thought last night before bed, this one supposes that might true, considering its essentially the same gambit Fenrir tried to do at the start of the day and then subsequently failed to, and then flipped crew. Doesn't change the fact that being tracked to no one isn't an instant exoneration when goons exist, like KJ seems to think. Like, do correct this one if it's wrong but pretty sure anyone from scum can go and do the kill, and thus if a non-goon or OTHER goon does it then oh, a goon doesn't get tracked to Titus. Either way, this one doesn't scumread KJ off of that, it's just kinda NAI imo. And since it's NAI in my book, off to read them based on other things! Like say, committing murder via fake PR softing, and their overall play. This one thinks its kinda lost focus on this game in general but it does not have a lot of confidence in crew!KJ after both Fenrir and Passenger flipped crew.

KJ, you're not innocent just because Titus visited you and you didn't go anywhere.

The whole scum team don't all travel together for a kill. You can be scum and NOT perform a kill.

Just want to clear that up.

+1.

What in the sweet merciful embrace of grog did i just read.
I can't even translate bits of it...

And what exactly is so hard to understand about this that you can't actually comment on it?

[HighPrincessErinys]

I dont think i like this new site change. :[

Agreed.....

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE, while you're here can you post the full reads list I've been kindly asking for?

Also, did you do a Tarot reading yet for Titus since she drew a Black Spot?

Titus (duh)
Flea
Bella
Gamma, ActionDan
Eiralox
--Yonder Neutral Line--
Gimli
BBT
Radical Rat, Enchant
--Yonder Scum Line--
Malakittens, kinda? Eh.
Killing Joke, Elements. Killing one will probably exonerate the other imho


This one will draw a card for Titus after it lays down for a spell. No pun intended.

[HighPrincessErinys]

@HPE, while you're here can you post the full reads list I've been kindly asking for?

Also, did you do a Tarot reading yet for Titus since she drew a Black Spot?

Titus (duh)
Flea
Bella
Gamma, ActionDan
Eiralox
--Yonder Neutral Line--
Gimli
BBT
Radical Rat, Enchant
--Yonder Scum Line--
Malakittens, kinda? Eh.
Killing Joke, Elements. Killing one will probably exonerate the other imho


This one will draw a card for Titus after it lays down for a spell. No pun intended.

IDK, your solve is Malakittens, Killing Joke, Elements? That sounds a little hokey. Where is the evidence FMPOV that you've been solving?

Also, why do you think that Gamma, ActionDan and Elements are resisting my request for them to post a full reads list?

What do you mean by that question? Are you asking for this one to elaborate or is that a rhetorical question?
Confidentiality probably, also. This one would like to see read lists in general from them (esp Elements) but it thinks its kinda inevitable that some people will keep some reads close to their chest for a while. So, eh. Squeezing Elements for all she's worth as well as YOU is what this one would like to see most before it drops dead.


As for Titus's card:

Two of Wands

- Future planning, progress, decisions, discovery.

Yeah this makes quite a bit of sense considering Tracker. No comment on 'future planning' on someone who's destined to die at the end of the day.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yes I want you to explain why you think the scum team is Elements, our slot and Malakittens because that theory sounds really janky and I want to hear your rationale

Misrepresentation. You know High Princess's solve isn't this.

Mala/Elements Killing Joke/Mala

It said probably not you and Elements together.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I kinda zoned off of this game, sorry. It's too wacky and it's hard to make sense of it until I get a proper reread and idk when I'll have time to effort like that again.

Kinda concurring here in that this one's motivation for the game kinda died a ways into D1, for some reason, and it's just been chugging along as best as it can. Which sucks because this is a neat theme! But what can you do.
As for more important things this one feels like basically every wagon that's been starting up over the past 2 game days have been. Strange. Like really weird wagon comps imo, especially during D1.

VOTE: Malakittens voting here because Mala has done basically nothing to prove herself town imo, beyond the Miller claim which this one is no longer fine with just going "Eh, town!" on.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Bbaaa that's terrible. Has it every played scum on this site, hpe?

Nope!

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Killing Joke

This one honestly CANNOT get a solid read on this erratic play... Do you mind elaborating on this vote for everyone's benefit?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Links

Review thread: viewtopic.php?t=89990
Sign-ups thread: viewtopic.php?t=90226
Mod PT:

pending

Mutineer PT:

pending

Spec PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90282

Killing Joke Hydra PT:

may or may not be released

Gamma Emerald PT:

may or may not be released

I've released some stuff. Mutineer PT and Mod PT to be released in 48 hours ish.

HPE gets my avatar for a week for winning the last dead thread contest.

Did not realize this oops! This one will find something to subject you to later, Aisa.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Links

Review thread: viewtopic.php?t=89990
Sign-ups thread: viewtopic.php?t=90226
Mod PT:

pending

Mutineer PT:

pending

Spec PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90282

Killing Joke Hydra PT:

may or may not be released

Gamma Emerald PT:

may or may not be released

I've released some stuff. Mutineer PT and Mod PT to be released in 48 hours ish.

HPE gets my avatar for a week for winning the last dead thread contest.

All of my funniest candidates were over the 150x150 resolution limit, so have the Wretched Beast instead.