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Hi! My name is Niamh, and I'm a Phoenix Summon! I'm not sure what I'm doing here, but I'm Here To Help!Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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can you catch me up Gimli? Like why did 3 scum suddenly die for starters?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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so should we hunt someone else then, and let Titus SuiBomb NM?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hmm, okay. I feel like if Titus is town she can be pointed at a confirmed scum and say "kill this" and if she doesn't then she's scum anyway and dying and we kill her tomorrow?
Like... we just watched 3 scum die, I gotta imagine we have a little space.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You have a strong QO read?In post 2678, Titus wrote: I disapprove of a Quiet Owl elimination.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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At work so I'm not sqapping accounts >.>Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I enjoy this person.In post 2682, Gimli wrote: I will personally reject any and everything that happened in the neighborhood thread that could be scum theatre, in fact I'm scumreading ranger twice as hard just because she apparently had some interaction with mathblade during night.
neighborhood is serving just for scum to pocket and rolefish and do theatrics at night and all things bad.
This is good posting. It coule be scum MOTIVATED good posting but it's good posting all the same.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So we kill NM during day and have Titus suibomb Ranger at night.In post 2696, Quiet Owl wrote: my distinct impression was that the moment ranger was threatened by lycanfire, math and N_M immediately jumped on lycan to stop her from becoming a wagon. makes me think that whatever she is, she's crucial to scum winning.
purely based on that frigging weird behaviour, VOTE: RangerYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yes but in both scenarios NM is scum.In post 2699, Prince of Paterson wrote: My opinion is that Quiet Owl's assessment of the hammer on lycanfire, being that it was in defense of Ranger, seems more likely than Ranger's assessment of the hammer on lycanfire, being that it was in defense of Quiet Owl.
Both are likely biased in their assessments, but Ranger's has more of an agenda of pushing one narrative while sweeping another under the rug.
So we do NM, titus kills ranger, rangee kills QO (what did they claim that can do that?) amd we clear all those problems and probably win?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Like that is where the scum is IMO. At most 1 remaining outside of that. Well, SK possibles...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm in no rush, to be clear. I'm trying to read up on this game I magically find myself in incase I need to solve this after today. Assuming I'm alive after today.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hey can I ask a very fair question?
If this is something NM was gifted, why did he claim to have to post a miltank with a hammer as part of it? Wouldn't that be something that would appear in his role PM over an invention?
Furthermore, why did NM withhold that info until the moment it would potentially spare him?
The whole thing is fishy top to bottom.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Appealing to the crowd gives everyone a chance to answer, which solves things like "NM was a replacement" which I didn't know.In post 2764, Prince of Paterson wrote: Do you have a reason you're appealing to the crowd in this manner? If you find it suspicious, why not make the case and push it? This seems unusual to me.
Not_Mafia was a replacement, so I believe that it makes more sense that it was something given to him midgame, and Enchant was allowed to flavor his inventions. It seems very fitting that he would give Not_Mafia that power, as they both have a joy for hammering.
that's why, my dude. Because I'm days behind in this game so when I make an argument like that I'm literally asking for someone to disprove it for me or come in and provide more evidence to solidify it because I don't HAVE THAT EVIDENCE
lmfaoYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Like cut me a little slack here as I try to engage with this game, open invitations for engagement are a great tool for this why are you pressed about that?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I mean, it probably came across that way because the implied question was "uh, am I crazy or does this all add up to being this obvious thing?"In post 2768, Prince of Paterson wrote:
Reasonable. It didn't come across like you were looking for more information, it sounded more like you wanted others to come to the conclusion you had. I may have read too much into it, though. It surprised me as an approach, is all.In post 2766, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Like cut me a little slack here as I try to engage with this game, open invitations for engagement are a great tool for this why are you pressed about that?
it was a sanity check of a question opened to the whole thread for the opportunity to support or deny the take. It's... like playing Cleudo? You present a world and ask if anyone can disprove it and if no one does.... it's a good sign that world has some merit to explore, at minimum.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Honestly, can't NM be SK? the Lycanfire hammer is... a lot to overlook.In post 2770, Gimli wrote: IDK what to do next. who are we eliminating? QO or ranger?
But if we're not doing NM...
Ranger's my read preference but I don't trust Titus to shoot QO for us, where as I do trust titus to blast Ranger in the fuckin' face.
So.... QO, I think.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Is this to me? If so, about who? Who did you want to kill day 2?In post 2777, Prince of Paterson wrote: Make me a promise that if they live through the night you don't allow them to change their story again and make excuses, and elim them like we should have on day 2.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I mean...
Titus is a claimed compulsive sui bomber. If she doesn't die, we kill her tomorrow on principle no?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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My current world is Ranger+QO Scum with NM SK so... this isn't particularly comforting to me, Titus.In post 2785, Titus wrote:
If Ranger flips town, I'll shoot QO in the face.In post 2776, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Honestly, can't NM be SK? the Lycanfire hammer is... a lot to overlook.In post 2770, Gimli wrote: IDK what to do next. who are we eliminating? QO or ranger?
But if we're not doing NM...
Ranger's my read preference but I don't trust Titus to shoot QO for us, where as I do trust titus to blast Ranger in the fuckin' face.
So.... QO, I think.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh I'll 100% ensure it.In post 2789, Prince of Paterson wrote:
By logic, yes. I don't trust people to act logically. I'm asking you and Gimli since I doubt all three of us die and you're the two I expect might listen.In post 2782, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I mean...
Titus is a claimed compulsive sui bomber. If she doesn't die, we kill her tomorrow on principle no?
I thought Titus and imaginality were the scummiest slots in the game since the time I started reading the thread when I replaced in at the start of day 2. There was a theory for a while that they were a serial killer lover duo which still seems likely to me.
the other option we have is this.
We could flip Titus today to limit the number of kills and try to slow play this. Flipping titus, if they tell the truth, would flip Imagine and then Mastina shoots her gun + a scum kill + an SK kill is... max 5 kills without any cross kills.
But that world could leave us with possibly 2 scum or a scum and an SK aliveYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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it's much better to just ensure ALL of them die.
NM, Titus, Imagine, QO, Ranger
all 5 die and if those 5 die we are left with... Gimli, You Me and one other person? Kitty?
I think that's just all townies, personally. So.... it's hard not to want to go for that world.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ouais, je sais. I included it in the write up I just did.In post 2794, Prince of Paterson wrote: Lovers were claimed. If we flip Titus today and she's telling the truth, imaginality dies as well.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You think Patterson and Gimli are suspicious?In post 2793, Titus wrote:
It's not comforting to me that you want to kill my VCA clear when Patterson and Gimli are much more suspicious.In post 2791, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
My current world is Ranger+QO Scum with NM SK so... this isn't particularly comforting to me, Titus.In post 2785, Titus wrote:
If Ranger flips town, I'll shoot QO in the face.In post 2776, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Honestly, can't NM be SK? the Lycanfire hammer is... a lot to overlook.In post 2770, Gimli wrote: IDK what to do next. who are we eliminating? QO or ranger?
But if we're not doing NM...
Ranger's my read preference but I don't trust Titus to shoot QO for us, where as I do trust titus to blast Ranger in the fuckin' face.
So.... QO, I think.
That's like my top 2 townreads.
You gotta explain those scumreads Titus.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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All good.In post 2798, Prince of Paterson wrote:
Explanation makes sense then. I read it as "we would flip imaginality after", misunderstood.In post 2796, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Ouais, je sais. I included it in the write up I just did.In post 2794, Prince of Paterson wrote: Lovers were claimed. If we flip Titus today and she's telling the truth, imaginality dies as well.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If we don't have ANY claims that prevent this by the town... isn't it most likely they're both scum? and that this is a final gambit to clear one of them when the other flips?In post 2810, Titus wrote: Unless we get a doc claim on Ranger or a QO block (unlikely), there's certain scum in Ranger and QO.
QO, why didn't you claim this sooner? Why wait until massclaim?
speaking of claims, our role is N3 Hydra Recruiter which does exactly what it says on the tin. Basically if Furtive survived to N3 they could pull a player outside the game into the game (the player has to accept the recruitment or the ability fails) to join their slot as a part of a hydra, a proven ability as you can see by my existence lol.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Supersaint is an ability that auto kills the person who hammered the Saint.In post 2814, Summon The Phoenix wrote:
What's a super saint?In post 2808, Gimli wrote: i'll full claim, it doesn't matter
i'm town even day vengeful odd day super saint.
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so if we were a super saint, and Gimli cast the final vote to hammer us, we'd die, and then Gimli would die with us.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Kill Power Number. I.E: Scum want another townie to be shot before the SK dies, is Titus' assertion.In post 2815, Summon The Phoenix wrote:
KPN?In post 2802, Titus wrote: I feel Ranger is the SK and scum want the KPN. Her post might as well scream SK.
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Did I miss a question?In post 2824, Prince of Paterson wrote: I don't think it should be too much to ask for me to get a straight answer to questions without having to ask 4 times for every question.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You and Imagine won't die in this scenario?In post 2870, Titus wrote: We can actually possibly prove Ranger and Kitty's roles and leashish me.
We lim QO.
I target Gimli (to control body county)
Ranger and Kitty both target me or imaginality.
We'd be safe at least wifom. Paterson would be dead. [Confirming this with the mod, otherwise I withdraw it]
This would leave NM, myself and imaginality, Summon, Ranger, KittyTacky, and Paterson.
One would die.
Lim Paterson. Game should end.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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wait why are we included in the people keeping alive?In post 2929, Titus wrote:
I'll look at this again but I'd like to verify Ranger and Kitty and keep you me imaginality alive.In post 2927, Summon The Phoenix wrote:
You're wrong on Gimli. I thought you liked VCA? Besides, his role matches his play today. Prince of Paterson's claim was random but he did seem against claiming beforehand which could explain it. KittyTacky is the one I'm least sure of but I don't think xyzy would put 2 Mafia vendors in on top of a Mafia Inventor, so he's surely town by claim.In post 2921, Titus wrote:
They aren't though.In post 2918, Summon The Phoenix wrote: Can we just get enough players to agree to the plan (that I thought we already agreed)?
Vote Not_Mafia, Titus bombs Ranger, Ranger targets Quiet Owl (and KittyTacky doesn't).
If someone doesn't do what they're meant to, we have an easy vote tomorrow.
If that all happens, Gimli, Prince of Paterson, KittyTacky and us remain and if we're all town we win.
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We can swap QO and NM in positions, that's not really an issue, the end result should be the same.In post 2943, Titus wrote: But I will go along if QO is the lim and we vig NM. I think Paterson is a better lim though.
We all good with that? It would be
Lim QO
Ranger kills NM
Titus bombs Ranger
Imagineality Lover Dies with Titus' BombYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You okay with the plan, Prince?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I concur.In post 2959, Prince of Paterson wrote: A quiet owl lim seems like the correct path forward. I disagree with one of the premises stated that we cannot have 2 group scum remaining. I don't think we can make any predictions about balance without knowing the nature of the ??? phase.
But I don't think there's much we can do about that at this point.
Do you have anything else you want to talk about today before we go to night? I sort of feel like we've run the gammit on the discussion and I want to have the time to delve into back reading incase this doesn't end the game (though, honestly, it has better odds than not to end it).Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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... Oh, wait.In post 2960, Prince of Paterson wrote:
My expectation is that either the game will end upon completion of the plan or Titus and imaginality will still be alive, saying someone must have doc'd them. I don't think they would be able to end the game tonight but it's difficult to know with how many unknown factors this game has. I am somewhat resistant to trying to solve bastard games via mechanics that we don't fully understand, but if the Hated claim is true, Owl has already been hammered so it doesn't matter.In post 2957, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: You okay with the plan, Prince?
I forgot Owl claimed hated.
Okay yeah for sure we should 100% not have anyone else vote so we can test the hated claim, but it shouldn't change anything.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So Kitty has double vote...?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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What is our scenario here then.
Also, no one vote. If Kitty is scum any misvote ends the game instantly.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Please talk to me you are like the only person I am confident is town with me here lmfao.In post 2969, Prince of Paterson wrote: Wait, actually, I have an idea of what might be going on here. I'd like everyone to check in first. And again, please don't vote.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I had a thought, btw.
Why does scum shoot Gimli there? Probably because Gimli is a Vengeful, so we were likely to eliminate him today and let him fire away.
So my question is who has an argument to try and make them look town, but is afraid of getting hero shot by Gimli?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Does anyone even fit that criteria?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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sorry, i didn't include the neighbour thing because i thought it had already been claimed we were part of that giant neighbourhood. we were just mass claiming what our abilities were so i didn't bother to like, write out the full role name, but what Summon wrote is correct.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Wait.In post 2975, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think whoever doublevoterized me is town anyhow. I'd think a town doublevoterizer would have given the power to someone who isn't a dumb fuck.
You're saying you... aren't a double voter by role?
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Not that we're aware of by our role PM. I just went to check it again now, but the recruitment that occured to me happened PRIOR to ??? phase. I remember because I got pulled into the game at night, saw the role PM and went oh cool, it'll be day 4 it's time to start playing!In post 2983, Prince of Paterson wrote: Explicitly then, you have no knowledge or connection with what happened directly after Night 3, phase ???, is that correct? If there's anything else going on here and you're town, now is the time to be honest about it. I have some information that suggests something might not be right here, but you may be able to explain it.
and then I had to wait like 72 more hours for that ??? phase which was helpful for reading the game but fucking annoying not going to lie.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm going to need you to fill us in here, my dude.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Kay. I'm trusting you, lol.In post 2986, Prince of Paterson wrote: After Not_Mafia claims. Thanks for clarifying.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Do you not need a Kitty claim?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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What in the fuck is that claimYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Town Multitasking is.
No. Just no.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Multitasking what precisely. They are a vendor with a one shot. They can multi task ONCE. Why give them that modifyer?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm sorry what.In post 2994, Not_Mafia wrote: I'm a naive cop
Like, as in
The keyword Naive that hasn't been used in like a decade?
As in "Only provides innocent results"?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This game is a fucking shitshow.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I can confirm we didn't send anything to you friend.In post 2998, Prince of Paterson wrote:
No other restrictions? Who did you target last night?In post 2994, Not_Mafia wrote: I'm a naive cop
I received something last night, I'm guessing that nobody alive is claiming to be responsible for that? It wasn't what I would expect to receive if KittyTacky had vended to me.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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And if anything our role is proven by my existence. We aren't fake claiming.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I mean yes but look at all the power that has flipped and consider how powerful a just a recruiter is.In post 3004, Prince of Paterson wrote:
While that aspect of your role is certainly true, it doesn't prove that is the only part of your role.In post 3000, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: And if anything our role is proven by my existence. We aren't fake claiming.
I'd like to hear if KittyTacky targeted me last night.
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I am pretty sure this is scum trying to frame us to save themselves Prince.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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But also there are 0 roles that could have sent this to you.
All dead players are flipped and no role shows this.
And if a living player sent this to you they would be scum for lying about their role.
And we would never frame ourselves.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So in my mind one of three things is happening
1) one of kitty (who has multiacying things they can send) or NM (who is claiming no action) sent you this to frame us in LYLO.
2) Ranger has some kind of scum factional ability that lets them send info.
3) You are faking this and you are the last scum PrinceYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Truthfully the fact that there is no townie ability claimed or dead that could send a message like this means it is 100% from scum (whether you are faking it or it was really sent).
Which means I'm confirmed town. This is a huge blunder by scum.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Like they tried to do some kind of move but actually confirmed town cleared us by doing this. There is no role in the game that could have sent that to you unless someone is lying scum.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Like I encourage someone to make an argument how this comes from anything but scum trying to frame an obvious townie and if you make even a lick of logical sense I'll accept it but
There is no action or role that could have performed this!
Titus trusted us with this game so I'm going to win this for town.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Quiet Owl died DAY 4. With a FLIPPED ROLE.
Not possible.
Neither is Blanco.
Once again we remain confirmed town.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
Soar on wings of retribution and set the world ablaze-
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As of so far you have provided no evidence this is remotely possible to have occurred.
Because it isn't.
My partner summon thinks this is too weird for you to be scum.
I don't.
I admit it saddens me but the truth is this. At this point we are confirmed town by your own words. By the very mass claim you just ran, we are confirmed town..
By continuing to push us you act anti townly, in a possible ELO situation.
I see no logical argument why any of this connects to the ??? Phase, but given your behaviour I think you might be the one informed on that phase.
Maybe you aren't. Maybe you can prove me wrong here and flip it and come in here and recognize we are confirmed town and work with us to decide who is evil remaining.
But if you come back in here with the HARD FACTS decided as they are ans continue to throw shade at us about some mystery power that gave you TWO messages (part of why this is suspicious) and can ONLY have come from scum.
I will at this point be forced to believe you are scum at that point.
Like the logic isn't even that hard to follow. No townie alive or dead could have done what you are claiming
So only scum could do this.
So wherher you are town being duped or the scum who made it up, there is only one person who is completely clear of suspicion for doing this, and it's US.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
Soar on wings of retribution and set the world ablaze-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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