Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]
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It's weird cause FL's play when he got limmed there makes me think that it's a 4 mafia team (otherwise they'd strongarm a townie death) but then I don't think FL makes the fake claim in the first place without a 5 person team so ???-
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okay yeah but FL got voted at 11 still?In post 8578, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
I'm pretty sure black got limmed at 12 and no one died (probably because they hit Cakez bulletproof)In post 8576, Meuh wrote:
Huh didn't Black get limmed at 13 and then FL at 11? if town gets voted at 11 with a 5 person team doesn't scum win? What did I missIn post 8575, Chandra Nalaar wrote: Meuh I think you're forgetting that when FL pulled his gambit he didn't need 2 mislims to win, he needed 1 and we only survived because of a miracle
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Yeah so if he gets a mislim there -> 10 -> townie death -> 9 -> 5 scum 4 town, it's a win
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Oh I guess in the sense of like, he needed a lim in you 3 in the first place and then the table is set-
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Ouch I hope everything's ok!!!In post 8584, WhemeStar wrote: Hi ill be here to play someetime soon dealing with account being hacked and credit card fraud for a bit : )-
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But he clearly wasn't going for the mislim chain with whatever he did at 11-
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True but they win even MORE on 9In post 8588, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
5 scum instawin on 10 the game doesn't continueIn post 8583, Meuh wrote: Yeah so if he gets a mislim there -> 10 -> townie death -> 9 -> 5 scum 4 town, it's a win
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At this point were they just going for style points?-
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Maybe? I'd just be confused at him randomly playing like shit after all of thatIn post 8591, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
Maybe he was just mad they hadn't already won idfkIn post 8587, Meuh wrote: But he clearly wasn't going for the mislim chain with whatever he did at 11-
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OH WAIT
I just got what you were saying about only needing 1 mislim
12 -> Black vote -> nightkill anyone -> 5 town 5 scum, it's over
I'm an idiot-
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Maybe FL thought he was screwed after Black flipped town and just decided to troll-
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To also exude an air of confidence and saying that scum had the win in the bag even though they didn't?In post 8597, Meuh wrote: Maybe FL thought he was screwed after Black flipped town and just decided to troll
Maybe FL is scum with a bunch of people in a worse spot, went "hey let me do this fakeclaim and we just win" and then the kill failed, he was like "oh I lost" and spent the day working towards painting the picture of a super strong scum team-
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To get us to do exactly what we're doing right now-
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Cause even in the best case scenario of a scum team here, I don't think it's strong enough for FL to actually be that confident
Unless there's scum in Yimmy/Chandra
Yimmy doesn't flip scum but I guess Chandra can-
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Cause no offence but FL doesn't look at like a him/Titus/Merlyn/STD/DGB team or something like that and go "oh yeah this is in the bag", right?In post 8601, Meuh wrote: Cause even in the best case scenario of a scum team here, I don't think it's strong enough for FL to actually be that confident
Unless there's scum in Yimmy/Chandra
Yimmy doesn't flip scum but I guess Chandra can-
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Is votelock cause ELO a consistent thing? I've never played a game where votes got locked like this, that makes sense thoughIn post 8603, Yimmy wrote:
if both you and wheme are town he's golden. throwing and hoping for someone to don a tinfoil hat is the path of most resistance (especially in the game's climate - everybody has been very passive besides me and you since the last replacement. he wins if he doesn't throw)In post 8577, Chandra Nalaar wrote: I think FL could read the writing on the wall as multiple players were lining up against him. I don't really understand why the selfvote and stuff unless it was to make you ask this exact question, but shrug
like i can see it as a gambit but there's a pretty compelling explanation.
this is dumbtelling on purpose. like we know it was elo cause of the mechanics. this was settled, like, three days ago. do you think there's another third party or something lol??In post 8579, Meuh wrote: It's weird cause FL's play when he got limmed there makes me think that it's a 4 mafia team (otherwise they'd strongarm a townie death) but then I don't think FL makes the fake claim in the first place without a 5 person team so ???
like i'm being dramatic. people get confused. i'm not townreading dumbtells right now though
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I guess soIn post 8607, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
If it was in the bag he wouldn't have needed to claim cop at allIn post 8604, Meuh wrote:
Cause no offence but FL doesn't look at like a him/Titus/Merlyn/STD/DGB team or something like that and go "oh yeah this is in the bag", right?In post 8601, Meuh wrote: Cause even in the best case scenario of a scum team here, I don't think it's strong enough for FL to actually be that confident
Unless there's scum in Yimmy/Chandra
Yimmy doesn't flip scum but I guess Chandra can
But then you could argue the power of centralizing targets on townies (assuming you/Wheme are town) outweighs the negative side of also putting the spotlight on FL
Though if that was the angle, why was Titus so distant from the claim-
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My original interpretation was just "oh when the playercount is low enough that's how it works", I did interpret it as being an ELO thing on this day since we're on evens, but I hadn't retroactively applied that logicIn post 8608, Yimmy wrote: ok i admit it is not a normal thing. but you gotta interpret "this is Final 9" somehow. and we didm on day 5
i would not have bought this hat if i didn't think your d5/6/7 posts were weird-
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That's fairIn post 8613, Chandra Nalaar wrote: Idk I'm just more interested in the early game right now than stuff like "what was Titus doing when she believed the game was already won and all she had to do was nothing"-
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Didn't Chandra just say she wanted to focus on the early game lol-
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The notification I got said thatIn post 8634, Yimmy wrote: uhh silly question meuh/whemestar
how did meuh know that you dealt her damage?
-I took 1 damage
-I was given a kiss
-this was done by Wheme
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guys if you're scum raise your hand-
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This is literally what I did tbhIn post 8682, Save The Dragons wrote: just because people said "fight tina" doesn't mean I immediately went and did whatever to fight tina-
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Also yeah Merlyn's fairly likely to be town-
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Should probably check if DGB/Titus is ever S/S-
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I mean we're what, 8 people, 3 scum left, I'm town, Chandra and Yimmy town, shoot in the other 5 and we're okay 60% of the time-
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I think this general position + FL's treatment of him makes him flip scum like 80% of the time tbhIn post 8543, Meuh wrote: I'm feeling STD's just scum here
I liked his more recent posting (day 6/7 I think 5 too?) but it's like... he had really meh content for most of the game that I felt off about, and his recent stuff feels very... safe and palatable? I'd probably need to give it a second glance but I think that progression's iffy-
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Wait who's the other 5 hereIn post 8669, Chandra Nalaar wrote: i should just random.org between the other 5 instead of trying that sounds way more fun-
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Is your other 5 everyone except you/Yimmy/me? or you/Yimmy/Wheme?-
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I meant the weird TItus interactions more but FL's treatment of him was also not greatIn post 8689, Meuh wrote:
I think this general position + FL's treatment of him makes him flip scum like 80% of the time tbhIn post 8543, Meuh wrote: I'm feeling STD's just scum here
I liked his more recent posting (day 6/7 I think 5 too?) but it's like... he had really meh content for most of the game that I felt off about, and his recent stuff feels very... safe and palatable? I'd probably need to give it a second glance but I think that progression's iffy
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I'm fine with not limming Merlyn today-
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Cause I doubt that if you're scum, you can just go around murdering as many people as you want? I feel like your power would have some restrictions around it if scum and that you wouldn't be able to just kill me like thatIn post 8703, WhemeStar wrote:
If I’m scum here and your at 2 hp why do I kiss you and not just battle and kill you?In post 7868, Meuh wrote: I fought Tina last night when I was at 3 HP, lost 1 HP there, then at night Wheme hit me and gave me a kiss which took 1 HP, I lost 1 more HP at dawn from an unknown source
For what it's worth, I think you're more likely to flip town than some others, but I don't find this argument super compelling, cause it only makes sense in a world where scum have a factional kill and an unlimited vig (sure you do need to win the battle to kill, but still), in a 17 town 5 maf 1 third party game?-
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Oh and Shirou had kill power too-
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So on that night I had 3 hp, lost 1 to Tina, lost 1 to Wheme, then lost 1 to an unknown source, which fainted me.
Tbh, Titus and FL's flips point to me both a world where Wheme is town who just happened to attack me on that night, or that it was coordinated:
FL had a power to deal 1 damage to a player, Titus had one to deal 1-3-5 (picked randomly)
So it's likely that either Titus low-rolled, or that Wheme-FL planned to combo to faint me
But I'm not sure why Wheme-FL do that really? I don't think me fainting was worth the bad optics there. Preventing me from attacking Tina is nice I guess but probably not the call to make?-
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Actually if Titus had rolled a 3 or a 5, would it still be sent to me as taking 1 damage since I only had 1 HP?-
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Okay yes that is what happens thereIn post 8707, Meuh wrote: Actually if Titus had rolled a 3 or a 5, would it still be sent to me as taking 1 damage since I only had 1 HP?-
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Also yeah please just fight whichever one of STD/NM lives-
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I thought your VCA was fine but not super compelling, like I can logically follow it and it makes sense but I wouldn't really base my vote on it at this point (Which kinda falls into my larger issue with your recent posting feeling very safe and reasonable, to the point where it feels unnatural)In post 8727, Save The Dragons wrote: I am not scum
I tried to analyze the game and no one really responded
I don't know what people want from me
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I don't really get people being confused at being scumread in a 5/3 with 2 widely townread players, like obviously you're gonna be scummy to some people at this point-
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Why?In post 8652, DrippingGoofball wrote: There is at least one scum in the below list of players:
- WhemeStar
and do you have thoughts on N_M/STD here? 2 main wagons at this point-
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There's 3 scum though? So why is it a toss up, can't they just all be scum?In post 8752, DrippingGoofball wrote:
It's a toss up, I believe scum to be between these two and Whemestar.In post 8750, Meuh wrote:
Why?In post 8652, DrippingGoofball wrote: There is at least one scum in the below list of players:
- WhemeStar
and do you have thoughts on N_M/STD here? 2 main wagons at this point-
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Or in other words: Merlyn/nm scum, Chandra/Yimmy town?In post 8782, WhemeStar wrote: But I feel like 1 of meuh/DFG/STD are scum I don’t think there’s 2 scum there-
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I agree with the notion that mafia would want a quickhammer, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if the mafia team would be not coordinated enough or not caring enough to do it-
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NM’s like 99% on the team if STD’s town though-
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STD’s scum either way so whatever-
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Wheme if you're town you should just let yourself die there-
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Like never ever is it worth it to potentially kill Chandra there
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We're on evens so a townie dying there was okay, it just should never be Chandra dying thereIn post 8821, WhemeStar wrote:
Well I was really hoping we both would live they had 4 health +2 defense lmfaoIn post 8819, Meuh wrote: Wheme if you're town you should just let yourself die there-
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Probably just N_M/Wheme-
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For Wheme to be town he has to have taken the most questionable mech decisions on almost every single night-
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I mean sure waiting to vig could be fine I guess? I take much greater issue with you killing ChandraIn post 8825, WhemeStar wrote:
Is there any difference in waiting to vig if we mis elim today though?In post 8823, Meuh wrote:
We're on evens so a townie dying there was okay, it just should never be Chandra dying thereIn post 8821, WhemeStar wrote:
Well I was really hoping we both would live they had 4 health +2 defense lmfaoIn post 8819, Meuh wrote: Wheme if you're town you should just let yourself die there-
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Chandra alive means we hit scum more often today and I get to live to final 3/4
Now we don't get that-
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But you dying would've been fine??? Arguably actively good but at the very least neutral?????? and Chandra dying fucking SUCKS???In post 8828, WhemeStar wrote:
THEY ROLLED SO BAD I THOUFHT THERES NO WAY I KILL THEMIn post 8827, Meuh wrote:
I mean sure waiting to vig could be fine I guess? I take much greater issue with you killing ChandraIn post 8825, WhemeStar wrote:
Is there any difference in waiting to vig if we mis elim today though?In post 8823, Meuh wrote:
We're on evens so a townie dying there was okay, it just should never be Chandra dying thereIn post 8821, WhemeStar wrote:
Well I was really hoping we both would live they had 4 health +2 defense lmfaoIn post 8819, Meuh wrote: Wheme if you're town you should just let yourself die there-
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