I got another scum too for after him.
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Yeah, I have this horrible nagging problem of trying to understand things logically....Mybad, working on it."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Benmage wrote:...understand things logically.
Wrong game.
Lol, QFT. Mafia is a gd tragedy these days."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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v/la till next Monday
I like fates invictus suggestion. Although if we miss invictus... scum have no night kill fear... but again using it as essentially a double lynch sounds beneficial.
Quil is confirmed town.
Sil needs rope.
Invictus count me on baby spice.
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?
Its use is that of a second lynch... it is beneficial for the town. Even if its a twoforone.... that's one we don't mislynch."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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DrippingGoofball wrote:danceHello wrote:DrippingGoofball wrote:Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?
How can they avoid being Invictus'd themselves?
By not killing players that have invictus'ed them?
Yeah they can no kill... no problem for me.
They can't avoid invictus if its on scum.... and we are placiing it on people we'd lynch anyways..... its win win"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Quilford wrote:DrippingGoofball wrote:Quilford wrote:actually, I think all players with the invictus ability should claim. does everyone agree?
I'm sure the scum would like to know. Can we out all the power roles? I'm sure they're curious.
Fate's plan fails if people don't have invictuses.
No it doesn't... we are using invictus as a second lynch."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Benmage wrote:DrippingGoofball wrote:Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?
Its use is that of a second lynch... it is beneficial for the town. Even if its a twoforone.... that's one we don't mislynch.
But Invictus is only for NK... not for lynches...
Duhhhh.... we lynch scum A. We invictus scum B... scum B was gonna be lynched anyways. So if scum B is town we avoid a mislynch... even tho night had double kills.
Now if scum B is scum... scum are screwed."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Rodger. We unanimously decide on a target for all.
I'm more interested in hearing from Zach if he still opposes it."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Zachrulez wrote:Hmmm... actually if the invictus choice targets scum, they'd have an interesting problem with how to deal with that.
Boom goes the dynamite!"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Nonono.... reading VIs is damn near impossible.
Are they devoid of logic because they're scum ... or are they simply that bad?
Baby spice needs to go asap. Consider it a policy lynch."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I double taked on that too.... he means he's following our plan, so he doesn't oppose it.. via veee his invictus vote."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Quils pretty much confirmed town in my book..
Body guard I believe doesn't intercept invictus kills... KK chose Hindu is my understanding.
I thought I had done this:
vote silavor
Invictus baby spice"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Ooph the speed of this game is gonna be tough while on vacation... haven't read yet, but sad to see he last VC and votes not on sil or baby spice."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I still haven't really read the last few pgs, nor gotten a good look at this MoI wagon. We still have sufficient time.. I should hopefully!!!! Get some computer access tonight... slowing down/waiting for me would be greatly appreciated."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Skimmity skim skim this PG... meh still not sold on MoI ... still need to read.
Nautys looking bad for illogical switches.
Still down for silvador or baby spice."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I gots a computer! I'ma see what I can doo
Moar Sil votes. Invic Baby.
Ellie's trying to climb inside ur ass Fate.. be careful of your past."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Nautilius wrote:IT WAS LULZTIMESTAMPZ.
Offspy wagon minus dead is duplic, Quil, Ben, Magna, Baby, Illum.
Ben is town, Quil is town. Duplic, Magna, Baby, Illum...ohblehwhatever
Oh fine fate, virtual proxy.
Idno about the strength of this.. rvs wagon.. zoomed through... Scum could be on off.. ehh, weak, it went too quickly. Let me talk another glance at it.
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Ben wrote:Body guard I believe doesn't intercept invictus kills... KK chose Hindu is my understanding.
Actually they do... or that's how I understand it. Vi had to specify what happens when you redirect 'primary' kills, so I assume that means directing non-primary kills has to be possible.
Ahh looks like I was mistaken.. wording.
Ban wrote:Dup wrote:Waiting for posts with meaning from Ban, his reaction to the Spy lynch was not good at all and had no real substance.
Did I even react to it? Oh right, I was overjoyed... ah good times... I can understand why you would think it wasn't good, but it hardly lacked substance. I was clearly ok with it. Would I have unvoted if I had the chance when he was at L-1, probably... Even I wouldn't willingly participate in his hanging without some real reason behind it, but I'm hardly loosing sleep over it...
How are you hardly upset about losing Spy... a seriously good scummer.. on bullshit rvs crap. And then give scum a free kill.. absurd.
Balance is directed around how many times town can mislynch before losing.
-We wasted one on Spy.. Are u fucking kidding me.
--We could've polcy'd Baby, and be all smiles.
Ban wrote:
the problem is you killed KK last night. KK outed his invictus target in thread, which told you he was a great kill with no risk to you or your buddies blah blah blah, speculation on my part so lets move to the juicy bit. Unfortunately, you can't actually bank on that happening everyday. With KK dead, somebody would tie it to his invictus claim and eventually everyone would stay moot on the topic. Which means future kills run the risk of possibly taking you out with it. So by issuing this plan you not only make everyone reveal their invictus, but also get to help control who that person is. Not only warning you of dangers, but letting you skirt them.
Yes. I noticed this issue with invictus, and forgot to verbalize when agreeing to the invictus strategy laid out by Fate. Because using it as a double lynch effective traps scum.. and would kill undesirables anyways.
But alas, not everyone has agreed to it...and as I catchup with my skimming.. I'm pretty sure theres paranoia that scum have a way to avoid this plan.
That SAIDWe shouldn't be screaming in thread who are invictus targets are.. otherwise scum will have no NK fear as seen with the KK shot last night.
--FURTHER CONFIRMING why Quil and now Gamma is conftown in my book.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Fate vs. Korlash
My two favorite players
There's no reason to live.
Nautilius wrote:LET'S ALL BE FRIEEEEEENDS GUYS.
and kill other people.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FRIENDS DO
Scum
Ban wrote:because statistically scum are the founders of huge plans like this... Obviously this is a fake statistic but it hasn't let me down yet... I could go into all the reasons why I think the plan was made by scum, but ultimately *short of my previously mentioned belief* I would say timing is a factor. He had that thing ready coming into the day... you know, like it was discussed and planned out by a group last night! *slams fist down*
I know, doesn't sound vastly convincing. But we all have our own things that make us suspect people. And this is one of those things for me...
Ehhh..the timing thing is interesting.
Although breaking games I dont see as a scum statistic.
The first thing that comes to mind is SAIII... That games setup was deemed broken by the end, by a Co-Mod Vi!.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:KK wrote:{danceHello, Gut, Quilford, silavor} <-- I'm thinking that this is a good starting group to look for scum in.
Since KK bit the bullet over so many so called “Awesome Players” I assume he was pretty spot on with this list.
Gut and Silavor are more or less sure scum.
KK’s parting comments about Invicting Quilford also make me lean to Quil Town
Interesting... thanks for calling me awesome.
Why 7 more pages and Silavor aint dead..weird.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Anyway I’ve delivered you a bunch of scum – Nautlius, Gut, Silavor, possibly danceHello. Get to work people, I’ve done the heavy lifting.
Solid list. Needs BS.
Nautilius wrote:and whaaaaaaat's wrong with that?
whatever, enough people in the game can read me.
Scum
Post 322..and Ban in general seems like a broken record with this Fate premade strategy. While also calling Fate a future thing to investigate... We get it. You said your peace. Repeating the same thing ova and over again.. aint making it sound stronger.
Its a jackel, jackel, jackel.... zzzzzz
danceHello wrote:The tone of MoI's post seems a lot different from [redacted].
-inHim
This is fucking useless
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This is a rushed game.. 7 day deadlines.. if you're going on 2 days with out checking in..something aint adding up. Thats almost like missing a week in a standard 3 week deadline.
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I don't agree with dgbs out of the blue pressure of DH.
Did you think DH was strategically not posting?
How are you so confident with silavor????? And I'm not checking now.. but have you always seen him town?
Lets review:
-horrendous hammer
-instantly puts blame on Fate.
-has in my opinion been acting or pushing a very clueless like style of play I.e. newbcard
(For reference I did a similar shitty hammer as scum in newbie 720... I was cop'd for it... the hammer, and play is quite comparable. I'm calling silavor newbscum.)
-now we have lurksville
Are you kidding me!?! How can anyone view silavor as town??"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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DGB, I'm sorry but I can't fathom your vote having any use.
I do not forded any mass agreement and huge vote switch onto DH.... its just not gonna happen... and at very least, most definitely not today!
Didn't you also dislike baby... if you think MoI and silavor (which I'm still boggling at) are town... then vote baby spice... someone people could get behind."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Zachrulez wrote:Regardless, his hydra activation excuse is total crap.
Yes I concede if that's his reasoning for not posting ... then that is indeed utter horseshit."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I don't like post 515... trying to have dgb say dh is his scummiest for not posting is bleh.
That said... dgbs vote is obvious shit."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Ohhhh dgb was on baby
Anywhose I still think the DH attempt is misplaced for today.
Silavor....... silavor..... silavor???
Zzz lynch the lurking scum"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Zachrulez wrote:Silavor seems to have flaked for what it's worth. (I'm in another ongoing game with him and he hasn't posted anywhere since posting here on Wednesday.)
So I'm not sure I buy strategic lurking as an argument. Everything else raised on him is valid though.
Ooooph, you idiot benmage! That's what I get for playing on a phone."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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The Illuminati wrote:In fact, you still haven't even confirmed your case on me.
The no case on me spiel is weak.
DGB's attack is weak, but the reasoning should be evident.
It is now, apparently because you reacted as scum. (I believe thats it)"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Hey Silavor- Give me the summary of the reasons you are voting for me. Stat. I'd really like to see what reasons you have for me being scummy as you just vote for my while distancing from Nautilus.
I'd love to see this too."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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The Illuminati wrote:
Everything that I've presented to her is complete fact. She voted me for not believing that Sera and I had real life problems and couldn't really get into this game. Is that true or not? That's not a subjective view; it really happened. So we can assume that because she voted me, she found it the scummiest thing in the game so far. I asked her to confirm that reasoning.
The whole real life thing was something I meant to comment on.. Alas being on vacation and reading/posting 99% from a phone hinders my abilities.
-RL happens. PERIOD. DGB. It is aBOLDclaim to call DH strategically lurking.. and to continue that claim when he's made it abundantly clear RL is fucking him.... The real life claim as some sort of PTW scum coverup is hugely frowned upon on this site, and I do not see DH doing that at all.
I have many examples of RL fucking me.. being semi disheartened/uninterested in a game... while maintaining a uptodate presence in others. Often being 15 pgs behind makes me reluctant to sit down and get my hands dirty.
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So we can assume that because she voted me, she found it the scummiest thing in the game so far. I asked her to confirm that reasoning.
Nah thats a horrible assumption.
I almost never vote who I think is scummiest. I vote who I think is scummy, and who I think I can get to the noose.
But there's other reasoning for votes... pressure... and as potentially seen here.. reaction testing?
The Illuminati wrote:
And her reply to all of this is to say that I'm "OMGUS"ing her. Other than the fact that I said she completely overreacted, where is the suspicion on her, Benmage?
I have called her attacks weak."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Theres clearly scum on the MoI wagon.
But Baby Spice was sitting around doing nothing.. till I told her otherwise.
New scum voting strategy is to spread their votes around. Babys was sitting there useless. Baby is scum."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Scum hopped on the momentum of the MoI wagon.
It stalled and they went .
VCA will be key.
I'll be home soon."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Damn phones.
Vitamin, is you're beef with MoI based mainly on Meta alone? That is to say.... he is more methodical as town, while as scum he is arrogant. And you are accusing him of his scummy arrogance?
-is that the main gist of it, or is there more?
Also, explain to me what scum Fate looks like."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I know the deadline is drawing real close.. but I still don't know the basis behind half the votes on MoI, or the "main "case in general.
I'm in the airport for home today.... but with work tomorrow, and time running out... I'd like to atleast have a better grasp why MoI will likely see the noose.
I want people to flush out their thought process beforehand before trying to take credit later... or trying to write it off.
There's decent segments of the game unread or barely skimmed by me. So sorry if I'm being a little repetitive here."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Gut wrote:Don't see it myself, but I don't mind sheeping Fate et al. here.
Unvote, vote: MoI
Gut, if you think silavor is scum, why are you more inclined to simply invictus him and sheep fate...
The more effective way of killing scum reads, would be the noose."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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danceHello wrote:The tone of MoI's post seems a lot different from [redacted].
-inHim
danceHello wrote:voteMOI
Been meaning to do that ever since I pointed it out. So there.
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-inHim
Is there anything more to you're MoI vote other than apparently Meta from an ongoing game....??
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Zach and DGB need to commit to a main wagon. I dont care if they dont like either one..not acting is essentially acting.
Pick the lesser of 2 evils.. like presidential voting.. and vote."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Gamma Get on SILA! The MoI wagon can't fathomable-ly be worse...
Fate- Rage, meta. (Is there more?)
Tarhalindur- Zero reasoning/Fate Sheep...Goes on to post 424, accuses MoI of a scum reaction.
VitaminR- Meta.
silavor- NO EXPLANATION TALKS ABOUT BABY THEN VOTES MoI SEEEE
danceHello -Meta from an ONGOING game!!
Gut -Fate sheep, DESPITE thinking Sila scum.
Gammagooey- W/E is conftown willing to vote Sila... vote Sila!
Nautilius- NO explanation. Sheeps Fate. Jokes. Then actually tells MoI shes had time to defend herself... DEFEND FROM WHAT??
Are u guys fucking kidding me... This couldn't be a worse lynch.
Then the opposing option is SILA!!! And I have to pull teeth here...wow...."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fate...if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Zzzzz
GAMMASeriously.. do not replace out. Replacements are a bitch to the game.. a bitch to the mod.
Ignore Fate. Let him Rage in a corner by himself.
The speedhammer..no claim.. obviously we have a list of PRs.. just illogical.
Nonetheless YOU ARE TOWN GAMMA. You can't go."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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SPAM!
MoI, you can't be so dead on KK's scum list.
And question dance's death.
And not look at who he thought was scum.
It was you alone chief... And gamma?? GAMMA?? U kidding me?!?!?Its GUT!He's some kscope/elmo/combo or suck.
Maybe scum are killing for alternative reasons.. U KNO EM? Cuz I do. Its damn obvious.
*****The second NK worked the way we wanted it.
Todays gonna require a tougher look."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fate wrote:Track results are fucking useless, if he didn't have a GUILTY there was no point in him claiming.
Are you going to work WITH me this game or not Benmage?
Gamma can do whatever the fuck he wants. His inability to be humbled or LISTEN to other people's reads after being so COMPLETELY WRONG isn't needed in this fucking town anyway.
I'm jsut moving at a slower pace right now.
Logic is still my friend.
You speedhammered SpyreX essentially.. And speedhammered Sila, while calling him town.. that raises eyebrows. That said I THINK UR TOWN.
And our invictus plan worked... cause that chic BS is unreadable.. the last time i tried I called her town and she was scum. Her death was a necessary evil that saved us from a mislynch.
Why Illuminati?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fate, also... You willingly claimed condemning town.
Are reinforcing that, while raging today about MoI..
Nothings changed in relation to MoI... Why weren't u raging to finish MoI off when he was L-1??"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fate silavor, had to die.
A Claim mighta saved him tho. I don't know... I hate claims to save scummy people... I'd probably still had pushed his death. He had 1 post in like 4 days. Horrendous. Explained nothing. Forced the newbcard. Better yesterday, then lylo."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fate wrote:I NEVER would've hammered silavor if I didn't think I was going to get a MoI lynch the next day.
Alright well.
Hold on."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Thats true.. he woulda made a good invictus target.
One I'm unsure who to do today.
Why Illuminati? I remember DGB screaming about him.. haven't looked hard/ dont really remember."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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