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mykonian's post, with this playerlist, makes me ask the following questions about meta, to all of the players.
1. How often do you feel you use meta as an argument in Mafia?
2. Do you prefer proactive (using as a reason to investigate a player's actions) or reactive (using to backup/contradict what a player did) meta?
3. How often are you to research meta on a player whose meta you don't know in the game?
4. Do you prefer to use meta to defend a player as being town, or attack them for being scum?
And My answers:
1. Occasionally, only as needed in a tough situation, once or twice a game, but never in a high pressure situation like end game. I prefer to use it as a way of noting a disconnect in thinking/actions.
2. Reactive, I'll almost only use it as a way of backing up reasoning in the game.
3. Rarely. I try to use it when it's brought up, and see if I agree with it, if it's a player whose meta I don't know.
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Blackberry wrote:
1: He is making an active effort to seem town by asking questions.
2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.
1. Many of these players are high end players, many have played with each other before. I prefer these as relevant questions as opposed to random ones. May as well get discussion going on a topic that forces them into a position now (as opposed to letting scum who claim to never use meta be able to use meta to try and push a bad reason).
2. Who said I was looking to join the wagon? I just wanted to know if its a random vote or if they have a reason for it.
Great Case.Vote: Blackberry-
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So lets see now:
People who are voting me for my vote on blackberry: Fate, CSL, Jackalope?
People who are voting me for my meta mentions: Blackberry, Parabollocks
Where to look for scum buddying me: Rest of votes - Reck, myko, Katsuki.
That's where to look for the scum, one of those three.
Please, explain to me how the case Blackberry posted makes me scum, because all I get from it is everyone who aks questions at the start of the game is scum?-
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Blackberry wrote:Nocmen wrote:So lets see now:
People who are voting me for my vote on blackberry: Fate, CSL, Jackalope?
People who are voting me for my meta mentions: Blackberry, Parabollocks
Where to look for scum buddying me: Rest of votes - Reck, myko, Katsuki.
That's where to look for the scum, one of those three.
Please, explain to me how the case Blackberry posted makes me scum, because all I get from it is everyone who aks questions at the start of the game is scum?
'all I get from it is everyone who aks questions at the start of the game is scum'... I don't see town saying this TBH. Although I am hesitant because of how quickly people hopped onto you, I'm content with keeping my vote here.
Why don't you explain the reasons for voting me, eh?
Because I disagree with your case that you posted. Where you said I was acting town for asking questions. As mentioned above, if that's what the case comes down to, asking questions, would you extend that to others who ask questions to get discussion started? Would this change if I had questions that are about nothing relevant to the game? I'm not voting you as an OMGUS, I'm voting you because I feel it was the first case that had weak reasoning in this game. Though my goal is now to figure out who the scum sheeping you are.
For questioning Fate's vote - that simply leads into a discussion about what you feel my intentions were - where you think I was trying to get on the wagon. Now that's just getting into a WIFOM game. You can say I was trying to join the wagon, and I'll just say that I was questioning votes to get discussion started. That's something we'll just have to take different sides on.-
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Blackberry wrote:I didn't say you were acting townie, I said you were making an active effort to appear townie. Not to mention, the questions you asked, I think did a negative service in that now mafia will be consciously aware to avoid what they've done as meta, etc.
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Nocmen wrote:I just wanted to know if its a random vote or if they have a reason for it.
Nocmen wrote:I'll just say that I was questioning votes to get discussion started
Which is it exactly? 'Just getting discussion started' is different than 'trying to see if he had a reason.' One is general and one is very specific.
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I do however agree with you on the mafia sheeping me part. Regardless if you are mafia or not, at least one or two mafia have either sheeped me (personally I just wanted to see how you reacted, and I don't think you're reacted the most town-like to my accusations) or mafia would bus for whatever reason.
Elliberth is waiting with a loaded pistol. You better convince us you're town.
PS: The bullet's in Ellibereth's pistols are painted like dice since we're at a casino.
Questioning votes - getting actual discussion going instead of pointless banter. Getting talk behind the votes, not just random votes.-
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StrangerCoug wrote:Fate wrote:StrangerCoug wrote:Ellibereth, if you're trying to use scare tactics, they're not working. You are asking several people for claims in lieu of proper scumhunting, which is scummy.
The bad thing is Stranger has sucked this much as town.
Read brotherhood of wolf.
I don't give a damn about The Brotherhood of the Wolf. Let's worry about right now. Right now Ellibereth is implying people are scummy without actually giving us evidence that they are.
Why does he want Bunnylover to claim?
Why does he want me to claim?
Why did he want Nocmen to claim?
Why does he want Katsuki to claim?
Why does he want Bogre to claim?
None of those are clear from his posts. I am aware of a Nocmen wagon, but he seems to have merely nudged it, which actually worsens it as opportunistic.
More importantly, if he thinks we are scummy, which is implied by all this "Claim! Claim! Claim!" stuff, why is his vote sitting idle?
that's a good point. As shown, if you want a claim, you pressure and vote them until it happens. Not just ask for claims.
xRECKONERx wrote:lol fuck mykonian
he just calls me scum in literally EVERY GAME and happens to get lucky most of the time
well not this time
Anyone who's like RECK SO SCUMMEH FOR USING FLAVOR fuck you go read PBT 2
And now getting angry for a vote on him? I'd prefer if you at least gave a read, do you agree with me that his (mykon) votes are opportunistic?-
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mykonian wrote:Blackberry wrote:2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.
QFT. Quite a bit on the passive side.vote nocmen
I could also see this as buddying/supporting a buddy, btw. But unnatural it is in any case.
mykonian wrote:Fate wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: KATSUKI
YOU GUYS
THOUGHT
I
WAS
KIDDING
Wuss.
But ok, Noc's name seems to be the flavour millery thing a mod could give to a VT.
Sigh.unvote vote KatIt's late now, I'll investigate the wagon properly tomorrow. It was lightning quick, so I don't know what one can find from the placement. Reasons given etc might be a better start.
mykonian wrote:that's odd. My reckdar is bleeping.
scum again?unvote vote reck
Fate, we can get another scum to claim. And then we hammer. Because you know just as well as I do that Kat is really town.
mykonian wrote:dramonic wrote:wagon hopping like a bitch, overly careful formulation intent to avoid provocation early on, trying to pressure Fate's vote (good luck on THAT one), deflection of his own attack onto Fate too.
He probably can't explain his own votes.
You assume too much.Don't see how wagon hopping is actually a tell. (I can totally explain why the opposite is, which is why reck is scum btw), the first post was over the top andwow did you catch that!. I'm totally allowed to try to push fate around if that is any help to me, and I'm totally clueless what "deflection of his own attack onto fate" means.
so if dramonic would be so kind to shut up when he talks about things he doesn't understand, I'd be very pleased. (yes, this means you apparently don't have a clue why I'm voting, and this is your problem, not mine.)
Please, explain then. Why reck is scum, why the other votes, etc.-
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Bogre wrote:EDWOP:
I like Fate's #200 much better than the others, in tone and content.
That said: you shouldn't be lynching me to confirm town at this point, esp. there are better choices who are actually scum. I've got a laundry list growing.
Then mind giving this list?
Blackberry wrote:xRECKONERx wrote:Nocmen wrote:Yup, L-1.
Joanne Keir. Gold Digger. I've come to not gamble at the casino, just find a possible companion. Townie.
#1 sounds like a lot of interesting flavor for just a townie
Reckoner has claimed he does not have dramatic/intersting flavor.
Townies have dramatic/intersting flavor. If Reck has dramatic flavoring in his text as mafia, he's pretending he doesn't. He is scum.
I think that's a bit too much of a guess, I wouldn't be surprised if townie's have a variety of flavor, from comparing mine with the sample one given. And I hve to have that make me feel of Reck as town for that.
Jackalope as possible scum:
I'd have to agree as well. He was a possible one for who I felt was just hopping on the wagon on me, and that * gives me another reason to think that.
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Blackberry wrote:Bogre wrote:Blackberry wrote:...
Also #25 once again makes me think Nocmen is mafia trying to get a legit reason to join the bandwagon.
Vote: Nocmen
1: He is making an active effort to seem town by asking questions.
2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.
This.
VOTE: Nocmen
Believe that makes -1.
I worry about Katsuki and Ellibereth's switches.
Puts someone at L-1 while at the same time mentioning other people he thinks are suspect (isn't this what people claim mafia do so they can switch at any time?).
I don't think it's just mafia, I know part of my playstyle, if I think someone is suspicious, but not my top suspect, I'll move my vote over to them if that's what it takes to force a claim.-
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Xvart: your case on Bogre is the lack of a defense?
Even though I think that's not a good case, it's still a better reason than most others who have hopped on his wagon have given.
I'd much rather get the wagon on myko/jackalope.
Reck's reaction is...well...reckless (no pun intended). I really don't like 282 from him, but I can't tell if him and myko are distancing from each other or not. But it just seems a bit too offensive from both sides to think they are both scum right now.-
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mykonian wrote:Nocmen wrote:mykonian wrote:xRECKONERx wrote:OH MAN LOOK HOW SCUMMY I AM
So you knew you were not supposed to be doing that. Can we have reasons why you did vote bogre?
And why did you unvote Bogre when he's on L-1 before a claim?
Because I did like the wagon, but it isn't my preferred lynch. So I see no reason to force a claim which might not help us at all.
What about if the hammer occured without a claim? You still said you liked the wagon, and now all of the sudden that it gets to L-1 you have cold feet.-
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So...
This means that abilities are triggered such as food/beverages? Killing = poison/spiked drinks? What do you think about your role with regards to that?
Also, does the waiter count as casino staff? Aren't casino workers essentially the mafia? Though does a waiter count as that, or a different group?
I'm okay with the claim as itself, but the flavor behind it really concerns me.-
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In post 413, mykonian wrote:In post 412, dramonic wrote:You don't think vote-hopping with bad reason is a scummy thing, so you won't understand why that vote of yours is scummy as fuck.
no please, explain. Why is it scummy here? Because this sounds a lot like avoiding giving reasons about that post.
And you've been avoiding giving good reasons for your votes. And that's my answer to why I have the vote on you. Because the only vote of yours that doesn't seem like hopping on a wagon or with a horrible reason is the one on Oversoul.
Fate: Why the hell do you think myko is suddenly not scum? Or do you just want Katsuki dead (again) so suddenly? The issue I have with that is that if it was anyone else, I'd be tempted to believe it more. But something just doesn't seem right to me.
Let's get rid of obv scum myko,then move on to obv scum Jackalope, then SC and scooby.-
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In post 417, mykonian wrote:well, noc, if you don't get it yet, just check the wagon you are on. Just have a quick look at the iso of every player. You tell me that they are town and that that is a good wagon.
Do I think it's a good wagon? Yes, I believe you are scum.
Do I think everyone is town on it? No. As I've said in my previous posts, I'm very highly suspicious of Jackalope, and to a lesser extent scooby.-
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In post 420, scooby wrote:I just wish this wagon gets to claim range asap and myko can claim and depending of the claim we lynch or we get another wagon.
Fate should also stop wasting our time (the wagon is sooner or later going to hit claim range) and claim if myko should stay alive, etc.
There are a lot of scummy people alive (I'm basically paranoid about everyone). And I think 3-4 of them depend on wether myko is town or scum.
@Noc, you barely mentioned me in day 1. What happened today that made you consider voting for me over other options?
Of the people who barely posted day 1, you rubbed me most the wrong way. And it's the one lurker I got a solid read on from the posts. I'm not saying that you are more or less scummy than the other lurkers, but with the amount of posts they had, I'm uncertain of them yet.
In post 423, Fate wrote:In post 420, scooby wrote:I just wish this wagon gets to claim range asap and myko can claim and depending of the claim we lynch or we get another wagon.
Fate should also stop wasting our time (the wagon is sooner or later going to hit claim range) and claim if myko should stay alive, etc.
There are a lot of scummy people alive (I'm basically paranoid about everyone). And I think 3-4 of them depend on wether myko is town or scum.
@Noc, you barely mentioned me in day 1. What happened today that made you consider voting for me over other options?
What the fuck kind of post is this
RECK OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND LOOK AT THE PEOPLE YOU'RE WAGONNING WITH.
YES I AM MASONS WITH MYKO YOU DUMB FUCKS
NOW GET THE FUCK OFF AND LYNCH KATSUKI
Unvote.
In post 429, mykonian wrote:In post 419, Nocmen wrote:In post 417, mykonian wrote:well, noc, if you don't get it yet, just check the wagon you are on. Just have a quick look at the iso of every player. You tell me that they are town and that that is a good wagon.
Do I think it's a good wagon? Yes, I believe you are scum.
Do I think everyone is town on it? No. As I've said in my previous posts, I'm very highly suspicious of Jackalope, and to a lesser extent scooby.
Have you ever seen a game where scum bus right out of the doors of day 2? No thank you.
Oh, and since you are going to bring up 2 scumteams, lets be quicker. There is one with the kill flavor of a gun, one with a knife. I think Prozac to be traditional enough that means we are up against a serial killer.
Just think of what your (20 player game -> about 5 player scumteam?) top 5 scum is and check how many of them are on my wagon. No way you are on a good wagon
Where did I say there were 2 scumteams? All of a sudden you imply that because you dont think it's possible a buddy or two of yours would hop on your wagon so quickly?
In post 437, dramonic wrote:I do have opinions on other players. I just haven't voiced then.
I might once I'm out of class.
That sounds like an "oh shit, I guess I gotta do more analysis on faking ideas"
Vote: dramonic
And why scooby?
Oh...now with the requoting of 420...I see it now.Unvote
In post 465, TheJakalope wrote:God, this game moves quickly.
Alright, Either Reck or Xanatos is scum.
VOTE: Xanatos
Why them? Don't have anything else to add about how much has happened since your last post?
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In post 511, TheJakalope wrote:Fate, what do you think of Reck?
And what do you think of Reck? Besides you think he's scum, but you haven't said a damn word why.-
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In post 607, trekker wrote:In post 606, Nocmen wrote:In post 604, trekker wrote:dramonic, why did you kill him?
What are you referring to?
the man who died in the night phase.
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No, I'm just tired of his riddles. Talk straight and it makes it easier for everyone.-
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In post 701, scooby wrote:In post 699, Fate wrote:
FIRST OF ALL:
Just because someone isn't being voted RIGH THIS FUCKIN SECOND, doesn't mean people think they are town. WE CAN ONLY LYNCH ONE PERSON AT A TIME DID YOU MISS THE FUCKING MEMO?
SECOND:
Stranger is probably town, he's ANOTHER person who's play style you don't know shit about, so SHUT UP AND SHEEP FOR AWHILE.
Last time you asked me to SHEEP Katsuki and you see how that ended, even though I TOLD you he was more likely a derpgambitter than a scumbag trying to discredit you.
I'm meh about xvart. I'm probably going to need to iso him since I bareluy remember he is on the game.
The fact that I can't get a wagon on dramonic even though he is scummy as FUCK and chainsawed MYKONIAN, who happens to be your mason partner, is pretty telling IMO.
So then if you didn't believe in the Katsuki wagon, why did you join it?
In post 709, mykonian wrote:In post 702, Fate wrote:Dram is Dram is Dram.
He plays like this every time?
and he isn't on a public blacklist of some sort?
Don't like your wagon fate. Lets dovote thejakalope
There are a few players whose play are pissing me off much more than dram right now.
Also, more votes on Jakalope gogogo.-
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In post 755, scooby wrote:In post 748, TheJakalope wrote:This. Fucking. Game.
I swear this game is an elaborate attempt to troll the fuck outta everyone.
^
I'm going to go with town reaction since this is my current stance and I don't see scum posting this kind of things.
Hi thanks for telling us he's a buddy.-
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scooby:
Previously, you made pretty good arguments on players. The first one that rubbed me wrong was the joining on the myko wagon early D2. Since then, everything seems like neutral, trying to go with what you can, especially with the vote on xvart, where you don't see it, you ISO him, and suddenly decide he's scummy enough to lynch.
Also, claims to be scumhunting. Again, this happened earlier, but near the end of yesterday, it seemed more like hes just fending off any attack of a vote or two.
However, the more I look into it, I'm willing to make a compromise, and go after dramonic too. Depending on whether he can stop the BS games and straighforward tell us what he knows.
And if it takes a wagon to get that out of him, fine:Unvote, Vote: Dramonic-
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In post 796, Banshee wrote:In post 795, scooby wrote:Did you manage to read the whole game before that vote?
Yep. Thanks for asking!
What's your suspicion level of Nocmen right now? Why do you think he accused you directly of being scumbuddies with Xvart and then, when you protested, sheeped you almost immediately?
In post 797, scooby wrote:It has gone to neutral to slight scummy. I can't speak for what Nocmen does but I'm thinking Nocmen is attacking dram because his reaction to trekker's gambit is off. Which is related to my case about dramonic being responsible of the trekker kill.
Re: reading the game. What are your opinions on other players? What do you think of my case against dramonic?
Just as scooby said, my reaction is because dram's reaction to the entire thing (when it was first mentioned, and now) doesn't seem like a town reaction.-
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In post 809, dramonic wrote:You "caught that", SC?
It was very well hidden too!
Reading comprehension people, work it!
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In post 842, Banshee wrote:In post 840, scooby wrote:If you were scum and someone says he has information regarding you, despite of you telling the truth or not, which at the same time you could not know, would you kill him or not?
If I were scum and someone said they had information on me, I would kill the claimed PR even though that's a sacrifice play. (People would then definitely know I was guilty.)
However, if I were town and someone said they had information on me, I would not be able to kill them even if I wanted to. But scum would also see that and, not knowing if I were third-party or second-scum group, might kill the claimed PR themselves and count on the town to take me out for them tomorrow.
See the problem with the big assumption you're making?
@MODPorochaz:I still don't see what you're getting at; I get that flavour doesn't matter, and if the method isn't separate either then I don't think we can separate out kills by their separate groups. It's just new to me not to be able to tell which group committed which kill even if you knew there were multi-groups or scum and SK or whatever. By which I mean, separating kills by "shot", "stabbed", or whatever regardless of other flavour touches. If the same scum group factional kill can look like shot, cut to pieces, smothered with a giant feather boa, or kissed to death by Delilah the Kissing Bandit, there's no way to separate them out by different groups or kill types. And that was all I meant.
However, it's possible that scum could still be framing him, by seeing this and killing trekker. Still, I don't think that just going and making jokes about it is a town reaction to someone pretending they have information on you.-
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In post 845, Banshee wrote:In post 843, Nocmen wrote: However, it's possible that scum could still be framing him, by seeing this and killing trekker. Still, I don't think that just going and making jokes about it is a town reaction to someone pretending they have information on you.
Oh, I disagree with this completely. Someone who is town knows that the comment is a lie. Scum are unlikely to call attention to themselves with this lie, so the townie may well assume that the investigative claim is a joke and respond in kind. It's scum who would likely freeze in the headlights and not respond to it directly.
Can you explain to me exactly why you're voting Dramonic right now? Is it because of his jokey reaction to the initial accusation?
Because, if he is town and knows it a lie, wouldn't you try to challenge that? Question it? How would a member of the town know its a joke as opposed to a false accusation? Wouldn't most town members counteract that, try to figure out why there is a false accusation against them? And then the scum would be the one to joke about it, to try and get over it as casually as possible.-
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In post 874, Banshee wrote:In post 872, mykonian wrote:Banshee, if you want iso's, there are a few other interesting ones.
And iso's hardly work if you want to see bunnies passivity.
I've read the whole game. Bunny is lurky and buddies Fate repeatedly. People go after (her? him? I can't tell its gender) quite frequently and one of them was Xvart, as I recall.
On the positive side for Nocmen, Xvart was pretty willing to see him hammered. Could be bussing, maybe not. But the whole recent behaviour of Nocmen around Scooby argues that at least one of them is scum.
I think Dramonic is likely the SK. If you wanna go ahead and lynch him based on that analysis it's okay, but I think he's just as likely to hit scum as town and maybe would even try to if we asked him nicely.
I am STILL WAITING for Nocmen to answer my question. I know he read it, because he quoted it in his non-answer to me.
I did answer it.
I'm willing to take out dram, scooby, and jackalope today. Not liking any of them. Maybe Bunny, but I would much much more rather take out one of those three first.-
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In post 890, Banshee wrote:That has nothing to do with my question.
I asked, Why are you voting Dramonic right now? What was the impetus that pushed you into thinking, hey, Dramonic is scum! I'll vote for scum!
What is the reason you are voting him, Nocmen?
It's not a town reaction in my eyes.-
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In post 1037, Fate wrote:In post 1029, Nocmen wrote:Fate. I'm done with your shit.
You're not making any sense at all now. I'm really beginning to doubt your masonry. Not based on meta, solely the fact that you have such a sudden turn around on bunny? Seriously, what reason do you have for that?
I have an innocent on me.
Now unless LOL MYKO GODFATEHR bullshit, Buny Myko and I are ALL tied together
In a game with a SK/two scumteams, if you really believe this shit I'll be forced to fucking lynch the shit out of you.
What sudden turn around?
I WAS POLICY LYNCHING THE BITCH. I MADE THA QUITE FUCKING CLEAR. Then she claimed, then I KNEW she was town but wasn't sorry.
Then she was saved and now we get to keep around confirmed town.
So LOL
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THAT KEEPS PUSHING THIS SHIT
So you believe it without a question?
I can't help trust anything from you anymore. This isn't your game anymore, and I'm tired of everyone blindly following you.-
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In post 1048, Fate wrote:In post 1041, Nocmen wrote:In post 1037, Fate wrote:In post 1029, Nocmen wrote:Fate. I'm done with your shit.
You're not making any sense at all now. I'm really beginning to doubt your masonry. Not based on meta, solely the fact that you have such a sudden turn around on bunny? Seriously, what reason do you have for that?
I have an innocent on me.
Now unless LOL MYKO GODFATEHR bullshit, Buny Myko and I are ALL tied together
In a game with a SK/two scumteams, if you really believe this shit I'll be forced to fucking lynch the shit out of you.
What sudden turn around?
I WAS POLICY LYNCHING THE BITCH. I MADE THA QUITE FUCKING CLEAR. Then she claimed, then I KNEW she was town but wasn't sorry.
Then she was saved and now we get to keep around confirmed town.
So LOL
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So you believe it without a question?
I can't help trust anything from you anymore. This isn't your game anymore, and I'm tired of everyone blindly following you.
If Bunny lives and lives and lives and confirms everyone but herself as town, then I'd doubt her being a cop.
As it s, yeah I believe her claim.
You can't trust me that's your problem, I'm confirmed town, scum are LULZY enough to keep me alive this long, and I'm gonna kill em all one way or another.
I agree with you as town, but not your play.-
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In post 1139, dramonic wrote:While the Fate/Myko/Bunny conspiracy theory is totally in my line of stuff to come up with, you seem to forget that even if it's correct we have another kill going around that would probably love to put that theory to the test to either divert a lot of attention or off some confirmed townfolks.
I'll vote Banshee next time I come accross a votecount or something.
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In post 1226, dramonic wrote:In post 1223, TheJakalope wrote:There are 2 scum left, so Bunny lying is a possibility.
You having picked Fate and Myko to kill as SK is WIFOM.
Fate was a townread in addition to having an innocent on him. You are a scumread and have an innocent. The innocent does not make you conftown.
Im aware, however I believe that when you only have 2 or 3 scum left, lynching among the two closest to being proven town is pretty shitty play.
Oh, and me shooting Fate and Myko is really not WIFOM. It's self-preservation.
So then, who would you have reads on?
you've been a bit hypocritical lately. You had a vote previously on bunny, thinking he is lying, now where do you think he stands? I'm a bit unclear with the recent comments you've made about him possibly lying or not.-
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In post 1248, chkflip wrote:VOTE: mykonian
A weak vote like that last one this late in the game? Because he was certain about the number of scum and just came off an active lurking stint? You're killing me, smalls. That's not a D5 worthy vote and you know it, myscum. You're floating an easy mislynch here.
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In post 1264, Katsuki wrote:In post 1261, Mastermind of Sin wrote:After UPick I don't know why you'd want to trust Fate's instincts, Katsuki. =P
Fate can't read me for shit, that's something I already know after the 20something games I've played with him.
Secondly, I always sheep Fate when he's town.
And yet what do you think of his repeated attacks on you?
Also, this is pretty lulzy:
In post 300, Katsuki wrote:xvart wrote:
Caught scum but not voting and then sheeping Fate? Seriously? Even if you don't have time to explain your "caught scum" you can still vote them and then provide your case later. Or, here's a shocker, leave your vote where it was presumably because it was on someone you thought was scum.Katsuki, 153 wrote:Scum I caught will need to wait, probably until after my vacation ends. Activity restraints etc. etc.
Meanwhile sheeping Elli is the way to go.
Unvote, VOTE: SC
p.s. Elli, you know how we're "good at mafia"? That "group" of people that we don't trust there can't be trusted here as well. Lemme know if you need further explanations.
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