Modern Family Mafia - Game Over, Man.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

/conform

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Glowball is town.

VOTE:Grimmjow

Testing my psychic powers.

Vote: Gandalf

[Lady Lambdadelta]

V/LA for the weekend

Now that that's out of the way:

Unvote; Vote: Grimmjow

Anyone who sees what I see gets a cookie and a town read.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

^

Confirm Vote: Grimmjow

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Glowball

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You think I am scum, then lay down a vote on me, you are doing exactly what you criticized me of.

VOTE: kuribo

Like I said, I'll have my reads ready tonight for after my flip.

Flail harder.

You realize he just replaced in under an hour ago (maybe a little more?).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You think I am scum, then lay down a vote on me, you are doing exactly what you criticized me of.

VOTE: kuribo

Like I said, I'll have my reads ready tonight for after my flip.

Flail harder.

You realize he just replaced in under an hour ago (maybe a little more?).

and he's already called me scum, he even rebutted several points I said, time obviously isn't a factor if he's decided I am scum.

Generally, people read the entire game before putting someone at L-1.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Generally people do.

They also don't call people scum until they've read everything.

Obviously kuribo thinks he's got a good enough grasp on the game.

That being said, can I just get to L-1 so I can claim because this is complete bullshit.

[X]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This game significantly needs more LLD~

The hilarity of this is that I just remembered that I meant to post in this game again NOW.

So, I've been running a few reaction tests, based around my votes.

A few questions:

Why did everyone follow my Grimmjow vote? (@the ones who were like OH YEAH I SEE WHAT YOU SEE) Using Setup Speculation is bad, but it's a total null tell in this game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I didn't see what you saw, I just saw what nexus saw. I wanted a cookie though, so I lied. I don't remember exactly what nexus said and I'm on my phone now, so I'm not going to check. I don't really think he's scum anymore, but iirc he needs to post more often..

Gandalf wanted the town cred with me. Check.

Nexus, CSL?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I didn't see what you saw, I just saw what nexus saw. I wanted a cookie though, so I lied. I don't remember exactly what nexus said and I'm on my phone now, so I'm not going to check. I don't really think he's scum anymore, but iirc he needs to post more often..

Gandalf wanted the town cred with me. Check.

Right, that's why my vote was on Grimm long long after you got off.

Oh believe me, I'll get to the other wagon in a second.

Waiting on Nexus/CSL.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LL: I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you noticed Grim's comment about speculation, but ignored Mothrax whom did the same. To why you switched wagons.

Did you miss the part where it was a reaction test? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a town read on Nexus, I'm leaning scum on Gandalf and CSL after that.

Also, Nexus/CSL aren't scum/scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LL: I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you noticed Grim's comment about speculation, but ignored Mothrax whom did the same. To why you switched wagons.

Did you miss the part where it was a reaction test? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

So you voted for Glow as a reaction test or from Grim?

Both were reaction tests. One was to see who was eager to wagon, and the other was to [redacted for the moment].

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Farside, are you trying to state that paranoia is a scum tell?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey Farside?

Refuge in Audacity. "No Scum would EVER do that, right?"

I'll get to the Glow wagon when I've completed what I want to see.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

^ Nice use of a false Dichotomy.

I'm withholding for the MOMENT what I obtained from the Glowball vote, because I'm still waiting for something.

When I'm done with everything I want, you'll be informed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mothrax, why are you strawmanning my posts?

Do you not have anything more concrete to go on?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Farrun: My vote isn't on anyone right now. I'm waiting on something.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Farrun: My vote isn't on anyone right now. I'm waiting on something.

Latest vote count shows you on Glow. No where have you unvoted.

...

Huh, I could have sworn I unvoted

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Except Mothrax is town.

Tell me Farrun, what happened to your read on SpyreX? I thought you had him pegged for obvious scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, nice try farrun.

Also, LL calling me town is lulzy. I like when scum call me town.

@tclawren orly? Any comments other than "mothrax is prob scum"?
I mean at least farrun had reasoning. shoddy reasoning at best, but reasoning none the less...

Just because you're town doesn't mean you're not a fucking idiot who has no sweet clue how to play this game.

Because that's what you are.

It's just that Amrun/Farside are mistaking incompetence for scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, did Farside just vote hop onto me under pretense of a "compromise lynch"?

Oho~! This is interesting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

NS is town.

I like this vote better.

Vote: CSL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

jesus christ on a cracker.

fine, you say NS is town with no qualifiers, I'll take your word for it. Really, one lazy scum is just as good as the other. Either start helping us, or be assumed as scum and hang. Really, either way is fine with me.

Unvote
Vote: Lady lambdadelta

Sweetie, just because YOUR inefficient style of play doesn't match mine, doesn't mean I'm being lazy.

Nexus is town, CSL is scum, Gandalf is leaning scum, based upon the Grimmjow wagon.

If CSL flips town, I think Grimmjow is likely scum.

NS is town because GUT >=D!

Farrun was/is town, but I don't know if they have like, split mind hydra disease or something, because their scum reads are jumping off all over the place.

You're actually probably scum for all this "LOL LAZYSCUM" shit you're throwing around. This vote hop onto my wagon was TERRIBLE., especially given your prior posting.

SpyreX was early on, but has turned himself around. (much of my town read on Farrun comes from their original SpyreX read, being so similar to mine.)

RisingPheonix is a lovely town read. Strong one too.

Glowball is, well, Glowball. He's not scum, let's put it that way.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You mark my words. glowball is scum.

unvote

Vote: CSL

Glowball is... mafia?

Or do you think Glowball is SK?

Please define "scum" for me as either "Mafia Member" or "Anti-Town Faction".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

well aren't you two just so cute together?

hey, NS, did you get so nervous about me calling you out that you had to unvote glowball?

tell me, what do you two add to this town? I know what gifts I give us: an inquisitive nature, a watchful eye, and a fierce aggression. To the players I feel are town, any of my traits could be a game changer. But what have you guys done besides page after page of shoddy and lazy "lol this guy is scum?" if you are town, you are hampering our progress.

I catch scum. That's my gift to this fucking thread.

You can take your "watchful eye" and shove it you know where.

Let's examine the traits you list:

Inquizitive Nature: YOU ASK QUESTIONS HURRRRR. So does everyone else.

Watchful Eye: YOU READ THE THREAD HURRRRRR. So do MOST other people. (I know I do, but I can't vouch for everyone)

Fierce Aggression: YOU CAN PUSH YOUR READS HURRRR. So does EVERYONE ELSE.

So essentially, you're saying you bring to the game what EVERYONE ELSE DOES? Cool. Moving on.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, even your longest post, just now, is filled to the brim with informationless blather. And it's scummy that I took my vote off NS? Really? You're the one that says he's town. So you're judging me because I took my vote off someone you think is town? Or is your town read so shaky on him that you can't provide examples of said towniness?

and by the by, peaches, no, everyone else doesn't bring those things. You, for example, even if capable of bringing them, have clearly chosen not to bring even the slightest hint of gameplay

OH. I'M SORRY.

SO APPARENTLY LARGER POST= SUPERIOR GAMEPLAY.

WELL WHY DON'T WE ALL GO PRAISE MASTIN AS OUR OVERLORD THEN, HMMM?

No. You know full well it isn't.

And Kuribo, it's scummy when you hop off one town onto another town, yes. Stop trying to twist my words.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also there is no Z in inquisitive

If I wasn't sold on CSL being scum, this would earn my vote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

and what makes you so confident he's town, LLD? Do you know something about his alignment that I don't? I'd bet my left nut one of you is scum, and based on your overreaction to one vote, I think it's you.

Overreaction?

Oh you're hilarious.

I'm reacting to your stupidity. Why don't you go play on EM if you're going to use those kinds of shit tells.

Why is he town? I explained this already. It's GUT.

And honestly, I don't need to explain it any more detailed than that. It's anti-town to explain your town reads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's funny how you think you're "grilling" me.

The points you are bringing up are nothing. You're saying I'm scum because I a) don't post the same way you do b) don't post as much as you do/the same length of content.

Which is a load of crock.

Speaking of scummy things, I find it very interesting that you're focusing on players who "aren't posting as much". Looking for easy mislynches are you?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh my god, you people have got to be the laziest players ever

Maybe you don't understand that people can garner reads without having to post long explanations about them.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

God I don't like any of these wagons.
Though considering half this game is vigbait.


LLD, thoughts on Kuribo?

I'm likely biased on Kuribo, Kats. I'm finding it REALLY HARD to believe he's town, BUT there's this part of me that's twitching everytime I think he's scum. Call it gut, call it whatever, I'm not willing to lynch him on what I have currently.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Except I'm town.

And CSL is scum.

So no.

=======[]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD maybe you should try playing a game more to your ability



i hear puzzle pirates is nice

You would know better than I.

Tell me Kuriboh, what makes you think you know me?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=16125

This is probably my best scum game replacing in.

And I'll go grab you one of my better scum games that I played from start.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17191

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD maybe you should try playing a game more to your ability



i hear puzzle pirates is nice

You would know better than I.

Tell me Kuriboh, what makes you think you know me?

i don't have to know you to know bad gameplay when i see it

Frankly, I don't think you'd know gameplay if it came and slapped you across your fucking face.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

name one thing you've done to help this town


even one


go ahead, i'll sit here and wait

I haven't tunneled on a townie like you have.

And I have a complete set of reads, unlike you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, let's go. I'm tired of her as well.

Unvote; Vote: LLD

This is scum posting. ======[] please

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CSL, please try and buddy Kuriboh harder.

Of course, that means Kuriboh might be town, if CSL is scum.

He's just SO FUCKING WRONG.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kuriboh is clearly more of an idiot that I thought!

Because, in Reckoner games, the scum NEVER HAVE DAY TALK?

I mean, come now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...

I'm done with you. Seriously, you're a blind fool. That is clearly NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying Reckoner games have a precedent of allowing scum to have daytalk.

Which shouldn't change this game.

Which means your analysis about "lolcoaching" is bad.

CSL's buddying of it is worse.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CSL is scum at L-1 folks. Hammer will bring justice and scum flips to this thread.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a town read on Nexus

, I'm leaning scum on Gandalf and CSL after that.

Also, Nexus/CSL aren't scum/scum.

Vote: Glowball

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Glowball: why didn't you shoot Gandalf? Or NS?

We never came to a group decision and I thought p

eople were suspecting NS. While, I wanted Gandalf lynched yesterday people OBVIOUSLY weren't on board with that so why would I kill him?

NS is somewhat of the same situation but I never really remembered why I should have killed him. The point: WE NEED TO COME TO GROUP DECISIONS ON MY KILL. Maybe not specifics, but like a top 3 of acceptable kills since people are so upset with me.

The bolded is the equivalent to a scum claim.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck LLD you're suppose to be town.

If you're town, vote Kuribo.

I am town. Take a step back for a moment Kats. Look at what Glowball is saying and how inconsistent it is with the facts we have.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

no need to scream, geez. I'll wait for a real claim before moving my vote onto Kuribo

@Kuribo: Your sig is a lie dood

The Sirens are blaring, and I'm -twitch-ing.

@Kats: You don't do a very convincing Fate impression. Give me a better reason to vote Kuribo.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So it IS a 1v1?

Vote: Kuribo

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, Kats. I'm scum because I voted into the claimed 1v1.

If this isn't a 1v1, I'm moving back to glowball.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

KATSUKI, ARE YOU CLAIMING A GUILTY ON KURIBO. YES OR NO, NEXT POST.

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: Unvote to avoid a derp hammer

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hahahahaha

unvote:
vote: LLD

@Kurbio: I think Kats was drawing attention to see whom responded and how. LLD and SpyreX both stated it was 1 vs 1 meaning they were willing to vote you and when you flipped town vote for Kats claiming he was scum making fake claims. They didn't think about another other possible things that could happen like if Kats was cop and you were to flip town that possible paranoid cop. Just 1 vs 1.

On a side not completely agree that Spy is scum too.

Cool, so Amrun is scum.

Amrun, don't try to tell you you don't treat guilties as 1v1 situations. It would be bastard for Reck to give a player a investigative role, and then not warn them their results are not reliable.

Basically, I was willing to lynch Kuribo if Kats had a guilty on him, because

it guarantees we lynch 1 scum.

The fact that you DIDN'T see it as a 1v1 means something. If this is a gambit by Katsuki, (which would look really town of him right now) then it's my belief Kuribo is town.

You NOT calling it a 1v1 reeks of inside information and wanting to stay clean off two potential town lynches.

Of course, this all depends on Kats actually pulling a gambit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, I forgot to add.

Vote: Amrun

This is 100% a perspective slip if both Kuribo and Katsuki are town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LOL @ AMRUN SCUM TRYING TO ARGUE THAT AN OUTSIDE ROLE MECHANIC POSSIBILITY MAKES MY THOUGHT PROCESS SCUMMY.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mothrax strawmanned my posts by taking a false representation of them and attempting to make it the truth.

The CSL/Gand reads are basically based on reactions and voting patterns by the reaction tests I made. Further, a bit of GUT >=D here and there doesn't hurt.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gandalf why are you so certain that glowball is scum?

Here's the thing: There was a misunderstanding in my vig shot, and they are using that to justify killing a PR

I'm a bullet proof vig
Scum is pushing my lynch because they cannot night kill me

If I wasn't an asset I wouldn't even be worried about being lynched because it's obvious that scum was/is on my wagon.
I've called for my own lynch and I mean it. HOWEVER, I want it 1 v 1 from SOMEONE I find to be scummy on my wagon.

SK claim.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, my phone always has Mafiascum up and online, so I don't think it ever looks like I log off >.>b

On a more serious note, Farrun is actually scum. People should be moving votes there. Specifically those people voting Kuribo should move onto Farrun.

Secondary choice today is Glowball, the claimed SK. But I'd rather lynch the scum ringleader Farrun. Cut off the head of the snake...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Quilford, what about his tone do you dislike?

Further, I'm very sold on Farrun!scum. They're doing mildly scummy things that would get overlooked in good players. Hidden further by the hydra aspect of their game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kuribo, I'm getting really apathetic about this game >.>.

I'll do my best to give you something tangible. I play by gut a lot, but I know you don't play like that. As much as I don't like to bend to peoples wishes, I'll just do what I can I guess.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I like how Farrun is trying to use meta when it's convenient for them.

Notice how they talk about Day 1 in that Meta reference. Now look at my Day 1 in this game. You'll SEE THE RESEMBLENCE.

They are trying to grasp at straws and get MY lynch today, because they know if I'm alive I'm gonna keep voting them.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I like how Farrun is trying to use meta when it's convenient for them.

Notice how they talk about Day 1 in that Meta reference. Now look at my Day 1 in this game. You'll SEE THE RESEMBLENCE.

They are trying to grasp at straws and get MY lynch today, because they know if I'm alive I'm gonna keep voting them.

Yes lets ignore that you were using meta to not put a case together and apathetic gut as reason's not to make a case in the post

Kuribo, I'm getting really apathetic about this game >.>.

I'll do my best to give you something tangible. I play by gut a lot, but I know you don't play like that. As much as I don't like to bend to peoples wishes, I'll just do what I can I guess.

So you can use meta to defend yourself but I can't call your meta BS with you know something called proof.

How is me saying I play by gut Meta? It's a playstyle choice that I ACTUALLY DO.

Further, how is me saying I'm apathetic in THIS GAME a "meta defense"?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Farrun, explain this. In Post #203 you outline SpyreX as your top scum read and vote him. Throughout the game, you continue to put mild pressure on him, but nothing substantial enough to start anything.

Is SpyreX still a scum read for you? If so, how Strong? Why did you stop pushing him Day 1? Explain how it is town for you to stop pushing him today because "there's no interest there".

P-Edit: Glowball, that kind of comment is useles and clogs a threadt that I already don't want to fucking read. Stop that shit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

P-Edit: Glowball, that kind of comment is useles and clogs a threadt that I already don't want to fucking read. Stop that shit.

if it helps, you're probably gonna be lynched today and flip scum

then you can stop reading altogether since you'll be dead

I'm hoping I won't be lynched today, considering that I'd flip town.

Honestly, Farrun or Glowball needs to die today.

P-Edit: Kuribo, I'd tell YOU to shut up, but all that would do is get you yelling MORE. Which is counter productive.

I guess I was a little mean to Glowball, but I'm frustrated with this game and frankly, I think he'd be more receptive to listening (even if I wasn't that nice).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why is this thread getting derailed again?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

would you rather we turn back to the business of lynching you? i mean, i'm more than happy to do so, but i only get one vote and it's already on the scum (you)

Except I'm not scum, and you're useless at this game.

See? I can do it too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kuribo thinks he's all hard and shit. He think he knows how to yell and shout people down.

Here comes the mother fucking boom.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Said the SK looking to escape the lynch today anyway possible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Said the SK looking to escape the lynch today anyway possible.

this. planter. awesome.

LLD, it'd be great if you contributed more than just unsubstantiated claims against me.

You want more?

You claimed BULLETPROOF VIG.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how is Katsuki saying "hey, shoot this guy" any more of a clear decision than three other people saying, "No, shoot NS?"

Can you get the quote were it said to shoot NS?

I can get all three for you, sparkles:

Maybe if you didn't act as scummy as shit, you wouldn't die Day 1.

Also, Glowy, shoot NS or Gandalf. I think the majority of us would prefer NS.

Mothrax is pretty scummy.

glowball, take out NS

hopefully, i'll see the rest of you on the other side of night and most of you will stop being scummy / lazy

LLD is obvious town. Shoot ME.

Oh shit, I'm on my phone, stupid auto correct. That's supposed to say NS. >.>

What do you MEAN you weren't directed?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why do you see NS's post as a scumtell? Is there something I'm missing here?

Fucking what do you think of Fate, mr. obvscum?

Not sure yet. I've been focusing mostly on glowball and LLD, I'll have to examine Fate's slot later. What makes you think my slot is scum?

"I replaced in and focused only on the two leading wagons... Why do you think I'm scum?"

This statement is a complete misrepresentation for two reasons.

(1) Have you completely forgotten my vote on Kuribo that I placed shortly after I joined? I'm focusing on the two leading wagons

right now

, but clearly I have considered other targets and even voted for them.

(2) There are three leading wagons actually. LLD, Glowball and Gandalf.

A townie would not need to misrepresent my position to push for my lynch. Trying to be deceptive is probably the biggest scumtell in my opinion, and here you go on two counts of it. You are definitely scum.

DW needs to DIE.

Farside and I both agree that DW's pushing of the CLAIM and not glowball's ACTIONS is really scummy (and pushing this particular claim is scummy in and of itself). We also suspected mothrax anyway.

We still prefer LLD for teh lynchingz today, but DW dying would be a joyous thing as well.

I wonder, in what strange world is focusing on a

bulletproof vig

claim "really scummy"?

I'm starting to see a pattern here. The glowball lynch was pushed for, and it didn't go through, so you want to lynch LLD... now that LLD isn't gaining much traction, you want to switch to me... it sounds like you're just interested in getting a lynch through.

The fact that GreyICE is playing follow the leader doesn't give him any townpoints either.

At this stage, I think the scumteam consists of GreyICE, Farrun, and Kuribo. The SK is Glowball.

You know what this post is MISSING?

A vote.

Here, let me fix that for you.

Vote: DW

BTW Farrun is still scum, but is the only correct scum read on here (distancing attempt anyone?)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lol he called GI and kuribo scum. Yeah, he's town.

How does that make him town? GI and Kuribo are both townish to me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lol he called GI and kuribo scum. Yeah, he's town.

How does that make him town? GI and Kuribo are both townish to me.

No, they're both in my top 3 firmest townreads in the game(the other is Fate. Seriously, what the fuck is up with that wagon, there's no way Kats was scum). Which is why he's town. Scum don't openly attack the most obvtown players in the game.

This is really bad logic...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This shit is a distraction. Much like Kuribo and Glowball were a distraction.

Do either of you like being compared to Kuribo and Glowball?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"The wagonon me is a distrction"

LOL thats not something town says catgirl

Um... what? When did I ever say that, sweetie?

I said you and GI's little bitch fight is a distraction.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm glad DW is misrepping me, showing his scum colors.

I voted you because you called out a scum team and an SK, and

DIDNT VOTE FOR A SINGLE ONE OF THEM

Further, now that you're in a bit of trouble, do you vote for a scum read? No, you vote for the largest wagon to save your ass.

This is scum.

DW, what happened to your GI/Farrun/Kuribo scum team?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DW, you didn't vote for anyone Ina post in Which you call out a group of people as a team.

Generally, if you were seeking the lynch of one of those people, you'd have voted them.

Instead, you DON'T vote, and then vote hop opportunistically onto ME, the first chance you get.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... Yeah, and that makes my point anyless correct?

Flail harder scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Amrun and Farside were excellent this game. :3