UPick: Mafiascum Fantasy Camp - All over!

[GreyICE]

Well so much for the alignments being randomized. I threw this on as an offhand joke as my second pick, because I thought no one would take my first one. -_-

And... my pick apparently earns me third party. How about I pretend I win with the town, and tell you what various random hoops I'm supposed to get you to jump through? I need three of them done before I get to shuffle off this coil. I'll scumhunt my bestest.

Today, I need every player to post CHESSKID in the thread once.

[GreyICE]

QQ

QQ

[GreyICE]

I can't really offer one. I have a few nifty powers, but only two that are provable and I can't use either night one (all my abilities involve transposing the word Chesskid into different things, a handful of letters at a time).

I can assure you I definitely don't want to harm the town, and plan to scumhunt to the best of my ability.

[GreyICE]

Hells no. I just leave the thread.

[GreyICE]

Yes

CHESSKID

[GreyICE]

...and?

Third party players only serve to distract us the longer they are alive.

I'd actually be kind of curious how I'm distracting you, since I plan to be scumhunting just as much as I ever would as town (since I'm literally begging the town to do things to help me win, I'd say even more).

CHESSKID

Or do you think I'm likely scum? I've done some odd things in my scumgames, but this would take the cake.

[GreyICE]

RIDDLE TIME:

What has a mouth, but cannot eat?
A bed, but cannot sleep?
Runs, but cannot walk?

People who PM the answer to the mod get the opportunity to make a contract with me.

Oh that one's easy. The answer is:

CHESSKID

Which could be said more often QQ

[GreyICE]

Welp, if every player doesn't do it, I'm stuck here for another day or so.

I'd be scumhunting more strongly, but ATM I only have one or two weak scumreads, I think this is a lot of townies. Someone voting Mastermind of Sin is scum though.

[GreyICE]

oh looks

I found one.

[GreyICE]

Vote: Yami-Swan

I wait to vote for scum. RVS has been over for a while.

You are it.

[GreyICE]

So wait, GreyIce, you say that someone voting me is scum, and instead of elaborating on that and placing your vote, you go after the first person who actually agrees with my assessment?

Also, I'm not going to say it, so you better get your ass to work making yourself useful to the town while we lynch you.

Being dumb
And being scum
Two different things.

You master one, yet are not the other.

CHESSKID

[GreyICE]

I'm already having words with my other esteemed head because I'm seeing things in a much different light.

Much different.

This wagon isn't an RVS wagon. This wagon is a bunk wagon and I absolutely don't get it. Four pages in and

Yami-swan is the most town.

Interesting idea. Care to explain how Yami-Swan is town, Reck?

[GreyICE]

I want to criticize GreyICE for not delivering on his promise of scumhunting, but... nothing's jumping out at me, either. I'm not sure I see what GreyICE does in Yami-Swan. So instead I'm going to awkwardly agree with MoS about Moai, largely over him applying for the :contract:. :/

There's a few irons in the fire here. AGM should win some award for going 'we're not helping GreyICE win because that will hurt the town' and then helping me win in his very next post (THANKS AGM, <3 BTW) but I think he could just be derpadoodling around the thread.

Amrun is worth tossing in the interrogation chair for so many obvious reasons, including the important bit she failed to note about calculus mafia (scum LOVE third party distractions because they can let the town do the legwork).

I also have 3 confirmed town at this stage, so overall, today is going pretty well.

By the by, MoS is not confirmed town, but he's a hell of a lot more town than Yami-Doodle.

[GreyICE]

Oh Meran
Why are you so unwilling to scream and cry?
To ask for heads is one thing
we expected that
and we will deny it
but information of heads?
For all but us it would but require the simplest effort
if it is so important to you, you would do it on your own
yet for the only one which would require effort
an impossible effort to extract information from us
you relent with such ease.

Oh Yami-Swan
The predators
Take the sick and the weak
Meran's actions say prey

Yours say predator
We dislike this state of affairs
Conversion of oxygen to carbon dioxide
From you will shortly cease

[GreyICE]

Well it's got trap written all over it in bright shiny letters.

Of course I open the door.

[GreyICE]

I must live! I must live for CHESSKID!

[GreyICE]

Partial full claim, because I'm like that:

I can transpose one letter of the word Chesskid each night.
Different powers are granted depending on what I spell
The first word I can spell is Chesskit. The Chesskit lets me change two letters each night.
The next word I will spell is Chesswin. That is made of win.

Other words is as may be.

[GreyICE]

Oh.

Well hopefully I'll be able to spell Chesswin.

Because otherwise I'll cry.

[GreyICE]

The amazing stuff that happens then... the world was not meant to contain it...

[GreyICE]

Oh, look, it's Fate!

And he's scum.

What a surprise.

[GreyICE]

Dude, it's completely unknown.

Or I would have ditched it. Because when I spell Chesswin, you'll all know.

All of you. All of you will know.

[GreyICE]

Oh, look, it's Fate!

And he's scum.

What a surprise.

Oh, look
IT'S GREYDERP
AND HE'S NOT TOWN

WHAT A SURPRISE!

Protip: Fate is always wrong. ESPECIALLY where I'm concerned.

Vote remains, this is just Fate+whoever being scumbags.

"Oh he's not town, he just had a lobotomy so he can't scumhunt anymore!"

[GreyICE]

For all you great at research peoples
The Screaming Death clan is represented by Spyrex and Reck here.
Or the power is. Or they are the power.

Oh lawd god, Reck is channeling stupid-Fate.

We're all doomed.

[GreyICE]

GreyICE, full claim.

Meh, I'm in no hurry. What's got your panties in a twist, CJ? I'm not getting wholesome townie vibes off of you this time around.

[GreyICE]

You could self-vote too

[GreyICE]

I don't like the claim. Goofball is virtually a scum claim on its own if the mods actually correlated scummer and alignment. I have no idea where a meta of hammering people who don't claim is coming from. Yet I'm not up to lynching a Cop-type (and fairly powerful Cop-type at that) when Moai can live up to his title.

OH BAH MODERATORS AREN'T COORDINATING ALIGNMENT TO NAMES JESUS FARADAY SAID HE WOULDN'T DO THAT DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THEY'D DO THAT

[GreyICE]

On one hand, I think DH and Vi are both scummy so those observations are townpoints for MoI.

On the other hand, of COURSE he votes for the counterwagon DH. Of COURSE.

I also really dislike how he's attempting to wrestle town credit from claiming in his first post, when he assumed the quickhammers would be public. If MoI had NOT claimed and then had surprise quickhammered someone, most likely he would be lynched immediately the following day. So scum and town have the same motivation to claim this ability; the claim is null.

His explanation for rejecting LLD's contract makes no sense to me either.

P-edit: Submarine is not a verb...

Are the odds you're town drifting south into the single digits right now?

[GreyICE]

Seriously, fuck all the rest of this noise.

Unvote

Vote: Amrun

ISO a scummy joke.

[GreyICE]

P-Edit more: MoS: Tracker can be confirmed as tracker, but tracker can easily be scum-tracker or town-tracker.

Not saying it's impossible, but I don't recall ever seeing a tracker be a scum role. DH could totally be lying altogether, as well. That's why we'll catch him if he is, since his ability is confirmable.

Last mini normal I was in.

[GreyICE]

Vi obv town.

Pika pika obv scum.

Ride the Lightning

VOTE: AGM

Amrun still scum, little distancing the two did too obvious for words.

Want me to point it out, illiterate ones?

Well tough. Good reads, no explanations, that's my way. Sheep for justice.

CHESSKID

[GreyICE]

Also I think grey is telling the truth and is third party where as MoI could have been townor scum.

Oh by the by, joke's worn thin and the thread's trolled enough.

I'm town. And hate RVS.

[GreyICE]

Oh that was good.

Vote: Candlejack

[GreyICE]

Greeeey why did you do this x.x

3 reasons.

One, I have badass powers, and now I'm much less likely to be shot
Two, I hate RVS. I figured a good 3rd party discussion would be fun, and I wanted to see how many scumbags suddenly claimed to have conditions related to their role regarding victory. Always good to see who pops up.
Three, I'm a fanboy of motherfucking CHESSKID. Of course I was gonna troll you derps, whadda ya think I'd do?

[GreyICE]

Now I expected two people to catch this right off the bat - Vi, and Tarhalindur. Between the two of them, they're probably in the list of top 3 setup designers on this site, aVi gnd they're awfully fast to pick up setup details. Faraday said that the alignments were random in his very first post. Now, I have very little scum motive to claim 3rd party here, as (to be quite frank) I'm not the sort of derptastic scumbag who thinks living to day 3/4 and then getting lynched is some sort of moral victory.

Vi generally treated me as town, and tried to keep people off me.

CandleJack just kept pushing for role details. Pushing for role details. Pushing for role details. Details that aren't really going to tell him if I'm scum, since he never explained why I wanted them - but forces me to claim WHAT nifty powers I have that lead me to fakeclaim third party when he knows I'm not scum.

Game. Set. Match. That reaction test was lovely icing. Lynch away, folks.

[GreyICE]

Operative word is "have". You have 1 night to use them.

QQ

Maybe Faraday loves me?

[GreyICE]

Grey - understand completely your stance on Candle Jack and find myself agreeing when combined with his response to LLD's vote. Confused on your Vi stance. Do you think she put together that alignments were randomized and therefore you couldn't be a chesskid third party? (Embarrased I didn't realize this, btw.). If so, why did she "forget" this when it came to the dgb claim? Do you think vi is town or scum (and why)?

Vi (3) -

Amrun,

Screaming Death Clan, MagnaofIllusion

I do not understand. You agree with my stance on scum, yet I find you voting for town. What gives?

[GreyICE]

Oh FYI, Pika Pika is totally scum too. Amrun, Pika, CJ, it's like a damn buffet.

I think MoI is town, so we'll have to butt heads a bit to get him back on scum.

[GreyICE]

Oh FYI, Pika Pika is totally scum too. Amrun, Pika, CJ, it's like a damn buffet.

I think MoI is town, so we'll have to butt heads a bit to get him back on scum.

Grey you are totally harshing my vibe here .... why can't you just accept that I might have an idea what I'm doing and go with the flow for a bit?

'cause I totally have these awesome townie vibes off Vi. Just waves of color, dude, coming off like a rainbow. I can taste the colors on my skin...

[GreyICE]

I'm currently trying to figure out who's simply stupid and who's scum. It's hard, mainly because these wagons are so retarded.

CandleJack CandleJack,
Guaranteed scum or your money back

[GreyICE]

Whoever vigs the first person who uses a pure meta argument wins my approval.

Go vigs, go.

[GreyICE]

Oh my god.

Amrun is confirmed scum.

MoI make an argument I'm too lazy.

[GreyICE]

TOWN

Mastermind of Sin
Meransiel
Lady Lambdadelta
MagnaofIllusion
<gap>
GreyICE
Yami-Swan
Hinduragi
inHimshallibe

NO POSTS

ToastyToast
Irony

SCUM

Screaming Death Clan
<gap?>
DemonHybrid
Candle Ludi
Amrun
AlmasterGM

WHO IS THIS
Nikanor

Thanks, scum. I couldn't have done it without you.

How is that "obviously not scummy?" Town has noneed to manipulate townreads out of players.

Not true.

I want to investigate to see if her self meta is correct but doing that on my phone kind of makes me want to kill myself.

If five or six other people who have played in more games with me say it is, they're probably right.

That should answer your question about people weighing in on it.

That list makes me happy in my pants.

Sheep it.

[GreyICE]

No. I don't think I would even be able to learn how he scumhunts.

Step 1:buy a dartboard...

[GreyICE]

Lol, tar scum yay we win

[GreyICE]

I've told SpyreX I find Vi vaguely scummy and he seems WAY more gung-ho about it than I was. But eh, I told him to go for it, so that's his dance.

Hey, friends, have I told you about the Good Lord Jesus Christ today? And how he said, "

Irony is scum because I am the Lord Your God and I say so

"? 'Cause he did. I need a little sexy private QT time with SpyreX to show him this buuuuut I think Irony might be a better wagon than Vi.

Maybe

. I always love a Vi wagon.

Oh and PS whoever was like HAHAHAHA RECK FAILS AT EMULATING FATE I was breadcrumbing you dunce. Seriously WHO ELSE would SCREAMING DEATH CLAN put as their #1 choice? (Actually, ironically, Vi was our #1 choice until we switched with Fate).

how about we lynch one of your buddies, kthxbai

[GreyICE]

I don't need to be inspected, it's a waste of an ability. I can confirm myself as town on my own if needed. One of my abilities is to tree stump myself. It will cause the day to end and me to become confirmed town. If I use this power, I die at the end of the next day.

Vi loses.

Sweet.

See claims that trigger on death or from death need always be tested by said death.

Will lynch AGM or CJ. Probs AGM.

[GreyICE]

.... I'm assuming the "confirming myself as town" part would mean actually confirmation?

Regardless I'm not shocked by this.

I'm rather irritated at this setup as its panning out unless its all ~wacky hijinks~ but.

Lowest on the list of people I would consider scum instead of having me at your throat? I think so.

I was #3 in the before times and even then there wasn't much 'at the throat'.

Wait.
What?
Did the fucking Screaming Death Clan just do a fucking wheel spin and scumplain about setup?

FUCKING OBVIOUS SCUM.

Vote: Screaming Scum Clan

Get out of the thread.

[GreyICE]

Players who claim abilities confirmable on death NEED TO DIE.

[GreyICE]

I'll help you kill any of these four, Vi:

Screaming Death Clan
Candle
Amrun
AlmasterGM

Don't love DH at the moment, but he's nowhere near the 'Screamingly Obvious Scum Clan' or Candle.

Unvote

Vote: Amrun

We all have the same scumreads and are ping ponging, so I'll just vote for whichever one of those 4 is winning.

[GreyICE]

That post above

No way in hell town wrote that.

'kay?

[GreyICE]

No, thats crap.

What about it isn't town? You really need to stop with the unsubstantiated reads.

The fact that I called out most-likely to be scum Demon, which you yourself even pointed out,

Don't love DH at the moment,

(and possibly Grey buddy. I'm still not buying your 'gambit') which doesn't sit well with you?

No, the fact THAT YOU'RE SCUM doesn't sit well with me.

You sitting there and pitching a fit that I haven't told you how I figured you out just amuses me.

Vi, MoI, LLD, we need an alliance, there's three categories right now.

Town
Lurkers
Scum

#1 and #3 are around the same size, which means we neeeeed to be working together. Whadda ya say?

PEDIT: He's OBVIOUSLY SCUM, Vi, that's why!

[GreyICE]

Okay, my town reads all want to wagon different scum reads of mine.

Can y'all just make up your minds before we go lynch town as a compromise like always seems to happen?

[GreyICE]

Dammit vi, you're making me break character. Look at how they're abusing the FUCK out of hydra read switches.

CLAIM
SUP GAIZ, SDC HERE
DAT MOS JUMPING ON AN EASY THIRD PARTY WAGON

Vote: MoS

HUZZAH
PS. HEHAHEHAHEHEHHEAHEHHEEHAEHAHE

I'm already having words with my other esteemed head because I'm seeing things in a much different light.
Much different.
This wagon isn't an RVS wagon. This wagon is a bunk wagon and I absolutely don't get it. Four pages in and Yami-swan is the most town.
...
I'd love real explanations from the wagoneers behind MoS being scum that move BEYOND "OMG THIRD PARTY ISNT SCUM SCUM WANT THIRD PARTY LYNCHED"

So head 1 - WAGON MOS!
head 2 - WAGON SOMEONE ON MOS (oddly posted after MoS wagon was dying)

Reasoning the town saw: Zero

Vote: DemonHybrid

While I'm not happy with MoS's changing good town logic into lol, reactions he's still town via Meri.
I thought DH was town but he's going passive enough with this I'm not a fan. I want fire and blood.
There are two outs for MoI and I'm waiting for a greedy hammer. That claim needs to happen because some pieces need to click. Consider this declaration of death.

DH's is easy enough to deal with for now. I'm a ~mysterious power role~ and go ahead and track me to play "Wheel of Not Get Lynched"
Merisanel is still town and fff on you LLD AND Vi.
Unvote, Vote: Vi
You've got no bite and I'm absolutely :tinfoil: about that now. I can understand 279 maybe but no bite NO BITE.

MoI points out some inconsistency in SDCs play:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3348500

"Wasn't me, other head!"

...
I SWEAR I just looked at our iso and didn't see that.
Needless to say, it wasn't me. Probably fairly needless to say which me I am too but I will if you really need me too.

Explanations provided by other head: zero

I've told SpyreX I find Vi vaguely scummy and he seems WAY more gung-ho about it than I was. But eh, I told him to go for it, so that's his dance.
Hey, friends, have I told you about the Good Lord Jesus Christ today? And how he said, "Irony is scum because I am the Lord Your God and I say so"? 'Cause he did. I need a little sexy private QT time with SpyreX to show him this buuuuut I think Irony might be a better wagon than Vi. Maybe. I always love a Vi wagon.

Oh and PS whoever was like HAHAHAHA RECK FAILS AT EMULATING FATE I was breadcrumbing you dunce. Seriously WHO ELSE would SCREAMING DEATH CLAN put as their #1 choice? (Actually, ironically, Vi was our #1 choice until we switched with Fate).

Oh and then there's the scumplaining. The endless, painful scumplaining. Scumplaint after scumplaint. It's like the SDC is a nine year old girl. Every time they have nothing to say, they whine like they have a skinned knee.

Starts in ISO #7, and goes on, a constant high pitched whine:

I swear to god this game we need to take a deep breath and write on the wall "Lol, reactions, isn't a good idea." 1000 times.

God in heaven GOD GOD GOD

Everything in the above hurts my head a lot.
Vi's 468 on first read AND re-read actually feels genuine. However the SDC IS SKUMMM considering the above and NO POSTS being both madness and no including inHim isn't cool at all. I'd still take up that 1v1.
I like inHim's post with words and want more words.
The simple fact I haven't seen anyone express the desire for Hindu's blood makes me angry.
Nikanor is still doing nothing and the fact the majority of the new words are stubbornly holding onto the most strenuous of positions also makes me angry.
I'd pay CASH MONEY for an actual list of bullet points on Candle Jack.
If I could harness the power of rage I'd put Vi, Hindu, Nik, GI, Toasty and Irony into a rocket and launch it into the sun. I think the net would be a gain. If that didn't end things I'd probably assassinate Amrun for sweet meta talk time.

An entire POST of scumplaints, with a buffet of lynches for him he can keep open by scumplaining about various issues.

It's just whine, whine, whine, whine, whine. Pure scum, through and through.

[GreyICE]

*sigh*

LLD insists Amrun is town
You insist CJ is town
MoI insists SDC is town

I think all three of you are town, and all three of your town reads there are bunk.

I don't care what order its in, there needs to be death of all three, lets fucking make it happen.

[GreyICE]

Since when have I insisted that Amrun is town? I'm been calling for AGM!town mostly.

(P.S: Amrun is town)

-twitch-

[GreyICE]

On that note, Reck here. I'm fairly behind on this thread and have been sharing my vague thoughts with SpySpy, but I need a full-on reread. I'm about to call it a night, then tomorrow I have class/concert, Friday I have work then the debut of my radio show (which inevitably involves me getting drunk), so it'll be this weekend before I'm able to get my ducks in a row and get a coherent post up.

Let it be known that I've tried to get SpyreX off of his GI IS SCUMMM kick by pointing back to how wrong he was during Team Mafia's PYP. I've also made it known I prefer an Irony wagon to a Vi wagon, and that I haven't seen much on Hindu. SpyreX's summary of the game to me is as follows:

Let it be known that you're OBVIOUS SCUM AND YOUR HYDRA DING DONGERY IS TERRIBLE.

My god, a two man hydra and you have yet to post even one post that makes me happy.

[GreyICE]

*sigh* Meransiel, you have problems.

But he's voting for scum, and thus we like him.

[GreyICE]

Blindly following me is not necessary, or pro-town.

When me and LLD are both town and both agreeing though, following us is pro-town. Blindly or not, up to you Vi.

Also me and LLD always have the same alignment, therefore we're both town.

[GreyICE]

Vote: Candlejack

We totally have this

(oh and Reck: ~)

[GreyICE]

Ur scum, die.

You seriously just asked a player what the town motivation was for pushing a scumread. Bad flailing was bad.

This just reeks of the fact your little panicky anger is all from the fact that you don't like how she caught you.

QQ in the dead thread

[GreyICE]

HAHAHA

Locked onto three people who all need to die.

<3

We could be good friends~

[GreyICE]

Well MoI can live.

EXCEPT THAT HIS READS SUCK

But he's town.

Now lets kill CJ

[GreyICE]

I didn't label it scummy. I asked several times over the subsequent posts why you do it. Why wouldn't I inquire its reasons? I was wondering what you were thinking, and trying to determine your alignment.

Check your Role PM. Is she in your QT? No? She's town.

See?

Man, I'm good. I should write books.

[GreyICE]

Wait a second, Vi.

You think me and LLD are scum together?

Mind explaining this to me nice and slowly? Niiiiiice and slowwwwly now.

[GreyICE]

No Vi, I'm saying I have enough respect for you that I believe if you read the thread and look at CJ you'll understand why I'm voting for him. It's more interesting to see your input anyway, and I've called the pointing flags on his behavioral tells.

LLD is voting him for the same reasons I am.

[GreyICE]

Head the first returns tomorrow
Mark the date.
Though I am sad that SDC isn't topwagon.
I think Candle was our second though
albeit further back.
Me and the second and convene.
Touchdown
Tomorrow.

For lords sake, SDC is so obvious that they are for the bullets.

CJ is for the lynching, Vi can lead a headless town into a ditch so fast when the reads are off we need to kill CJ today.

[GreyICE]

*sigh*

Nope, you're still obvious scum. It's from the flailing. I retracted my claim under pressure, you say. Was that pressure the fact I was at zero votes, the fact that I never got a wagon off, the fact that I was universally being acknowledged as third party despite quite clearly telling people why my claim

could not

be true, or the fact that you've never argued my motives for it weren't town?

Your insults on LLD, Hindrugi, Nikanor, jesus christ. Pathetic.

Okay, you earned your place. Sit down in the corner, shut the fuck up, and we'll lynch you when 'confirmed town' fails to develop bullet holes. Of course in this case WHO KNOWS because fuck you're playing so awful scum'll probably leave you alive if you're actually town!

Vote: Screaming Death Clan

BACK TO THE MOTHERWAGON

[GreyICE]

Also, LLD trying to discredit the Mason claim makes me

I still haven't read Ludi's SDC apology due to time constraints, but I'm not planning on leaving Amrun (who GreyICE and LLD are avoiding like crazy in spite of her being on GreyICE's scumlist IIRC) anyway.

The mason claim? LOL. He's still scum. Look at that claim. No player choice, no partner, he scumplains in the middle of the claim about how it's always scum who want to know who the second mason is because they come in twos. He lies about me, insults everyone, and pitches a temper tantrum. Go look up your guide to claiming correctly if you forget it, because he missed pretty much every checkpoint - and this is Tarhalindur.

It's scummy as fuck. There's just no point in bothering to try and lynch him today. As I said, congrats, he got a few days off his gambit, good job.

[GreyICE]

Hey MoI, I happen to know she +1'd you, and you did damn well. You're both good, and so help me if I have to hose you both down like a pair of fighting alley cats to get this thread on track I will.

[GreyICE]

Check the activity log MoI

SDC is on what, 35 hours? AGM? InHim?

And my town reads are screaming at each other?

Shut up and focus, I don't want to add you to the list of magpies who dive for shiny things, but if I have I will.

LLD, no Meran. He's gonna be obvscum if he's scum eventually, and he's voting SDC.

Look at the activity logs, think about Sotty. Town squabbling, scum lurking. This is true.

[GreyICE]

Vi, what's new? Lurkers needing to post or die?

Cause that's been my mantra for ages.

Or you letting lurking scum slide because doing things is scummier than not posting?
SDC is scum.
Inhim needs to put out or get shot. Look at his 'ISO'

[GreyICE]

Yes Grey ... please let's discuss Amrun. You know, your obv/confirmed scum read earlier.

Okay. SDC got worse. Amrun did nothing. Now SDC is doing nothing. You and vi are attacking obtown LLD. Vi has apparently decided to redo Dynasty Warriors in terms of assigning people scum points when they post and town points when vi sees nothing scummy from them for a while, without checking if that while includes, say, POSTS FROM THEM AT ALL.

So we discussed amrun. I still want CJ dead, his gambit bought him some time, oh well. SDC needs to die. Amrun should die before anyone else not on that list.

[GreyICE]

ICE suggests that a two day absence from a solid contributor is non-noteworthy. ICE wonders what SDC did to receive such a label. ICE points out all the scummy things SDC has been called out for.

ICE wonders how the hydra gets a pass for posting infrequent, scummy posts so easily. ICE questions whether we've seen any sign of the 'logic' the different heads use to 180 reads.

ICE questions how much dynamite the mining team might have to use on Vi's ass to excavate Vi's head.

ICE gave up on dynamite for MoI.

[GreyICE]

This claim makes me annoyed, because it's so very scum and I so very much want to believe it.

Buuuuut it's scum. Very willing to hammer.


PEDIT: nevermind, let's lynch this donk. Too scummy to be scum? No.

[GreyICE]

Dammit, LLD, that's scummy as hell. Why is she town again?


Also vote on SDC not weak. Intent to wagon them evey day they draw breath not weak at all.

Oh fuck it, what a mess.

Vote:amrun

Backup to an unprovable power, nah.

SDC dies tomorrow. Or tonight.

[GreyICE]

Yea, Vi has degenerated into needing fucking death.

Shall we?

[GreyICE]

Who cares? Vi decided to use setup speculation rather than the traitor thing to push the case.

That means Vi knows DH is town and is preparing for a DH flip when we can get one of those famous shoulder shrugs 'oh well, odd setup, lets move on.'

Plus the 'oh SDC is more likely scum' when they've done the same shit they've done yesterday (NOTHING) and apparently their scumbuddy faked a track on them or something.

[GreyICE]

AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE USEFUL STUFF SDC POSTED YESTERDAY?

QUOTE IT FOR ME

QUOTE IT FOR ME NOW VI

[GreyICE]

Vote: Vi

Not quite

[GreyICE]

Unvote

Vote: Benmage

[GreyICE]

Just as dangerous

[GreyICE]

See Nikanor, this is why you just vig benmage

[GreyICE]

Your failure is actually pretty epic.

[GreyICE]

Benmage being retarded is alignment neutral.

[GreyICE]

Spyspy was flipping out saying he needed some time away from this game because you were pissing him off with your condescending attitude. Among other things.

I decided to take over because I had pretty much left him high and dry D1 minus me saying Irony was scum and that you didn't ping my scumdar as hard as his.

Vote: screaming death clan

[GreyICE]

My other head is lazy sleepy and I'm waiting for him.
I can talk the way I see things.
But I don't want shouts of DISSONANCESCUM later.

Dissonance is not scummy, as long as the different heads both have decent reasoning.

SDC is scummy because they seem to be using "dissonance" to 180 whenever they want to with NO reasoning.

[GreyICE]

Greias, is there a reason you like avoiding major wagons on people you've previously called scum?

I NO

HOW SCUMMY OF ME TO AVOID WAGONING MY SCUMBUDDY AMRUN

YOU HAD SUCH A GOOD POINT WITH THAT LAST TIME

SHUT UP NO MORE COMPROMISE LYNCHES SDC DIES.

[GreyICE]

It wasn't an accusation.
It was, however, an attempt to get your attention after you ignored the question for two Days straight while posting virtually everywhere else you had an excuse to on this site.

I'm assuming me and Benmage were also not compromise lynches?

Benmage dying today is pro-town. Even if he is not scum.

It's me on a bad day with less humility, worse ideas, and a need for attention.

You need to have me vote you more often.

[GreyICE]

However, I want to address this right quick:

Dissonance is not scummy, as long as the different heads both have decent reasoning.

SDC is scummy because they seem to be using "dissonance" to 180 whenever they want to with NO reasoning.

What dissonance. Seriously. WHAT actual "dissonance"? The biggest thing was the bad, bad MoS wagon. Vi? Orders of magnitude. Irony? Orders of magnitude. Jesus the post you quoted alone SAYS THIS but god forbid words get in the way of a good ol fahsion'd derp.

And for dissonance? The new dance with Vi culminating in "OMG SETUP SPECULATIONS SO THERE CAN BE SHOULDER SHRUGGING" to

Unvotez
Vote: Benmage

No Grey. No. That's a town Benmage.

Just as dangerous

Yea. Super best awesome.

But points and moot and DH is for bloody death. Although I absolutely don't get the "WHY SDC" when I flat out TOLD HIM TO. Now, I could understand asking why I told him to but.

SDC claims scum, right here folks. This is how the SDC does it. Classic scumbag stuff. SpyreX and Reckoner, apart they are formidable, together they are... obvious scum.

First we have the self righteousness. Boil it off, Reckoner always plays like gods gift to mankind, no matter what alignment or how bad his reads are.

His argument? "Orders of magnitude." Oh, and he doesn't think I'm consistent. THERE IS NO RESPONSE HERE, FOLKS. It is all Reckoner just babbling to make people think he answered me. He can babble about how he doesn't like how his other head plays scum (and obviously yelled about it enough that he's now running the show on the scumbag parade) but THIS IS OBVIOUS SCUM.

DAT MOS JUMPING ON AN EASY THIRD PARTY WAGON

Vote: MoS

HUZZAH

This wagon isn't an RVS wagon. This wagon is a bunk wagon and I absolutely don't get it. Four pages in and

Yami-swan is the most town.

...
I'd love real explanations from the wagoneers behind MoS being scum that move BEYOND "OMG THIRD PARTY ISNT SCUM SCUM WANT THIRD PARTY LYNCHED"

AGM, sans the one thing he did I thought was town, is a sack this game. If I was wrong about you and AGM could have a bullet in a chamber I wouldn't shed a solitary tear.

However, if I'm NOT wrong about you I really, really doubt AGM is scum. Really, really, really doubt it.

Oh I'm sorry, he 180ed himself in one post. Nevermind hydra dissonance, that's just not town.

Hey, friends, have I told you about the Good Lord Jesus Christ today? And how he said, "Irony is scum because I am the Lord Your God and I say so"? 'Cause he did. I need a little sexy private QT time with SpyreX to show him this buuuuut I think Irony might be a better wagon than Vi. Maybe. I always love a Vi wagon.

Yep so reasons why Vi was scummy. Minimal. Explanations here. None.

And then there's the vast oceans of fake emotion that disguise the lack of content.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3351421
No content

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3353142
Lets see if I can back down without doing an obvious dismount

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3354759
180s on SpyreX then... 180s on himself. Net content blowfish darts.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3372978
KILL DIE DIE DIE

DH probably needs to die today, but I want this day ending with my vote sitting right where it will be tomorrow.

[GreyICE]

Vote: Lost butterfly

Dear god yes

[GreyICE]

11a) Particular to this game, all players must respect any additional rules and restrictions in their role PMs, including those affecting

voting, posting styles, and formatting.

A player may be modkilled in the way most damaging to his faction for an infraction of Rule 11, but not made a neutral survivor and autolossed.
11b) A 50%+1 majority on anyone on the player list or on the modding account will result in a lynch and end the day.

If Lost Butterfly is lynched or killed in any manner, all posting and voting restrictions mentioned in 11a will be abolished,

as the mods will be unable to inflict their own sick whims on the players.

But I can rock the Irony lynch, after 12 seconds with the ISO.

Vote Irony

Ugh... SDC is on board...

Why are they still alive?

[GreyICE]

@ Grey, waiting on your town-reads and an explanation on your scum read on Vi would be nice too.

I have a scumread on Vi?

[GreyICE]

Unvote

vote: Benmage

Scum coasting on some town read we had on Meran. Playing up how dumb Meran was and chuckling how he has us fooled.

[GreyICE]

Benmage is

not

the

awesome

lynch for Today.

[GreyICE]

FINALLY!

vote: SDC

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS CHOO CHOO

[GreyICE]

yeah okay here's the motherfucking deal here

I'm sick and tired of this game; SpyreX is sick and tired of this game. It'd actually be fucking hilarious to watch us get lynched then watch all the retards behind it go HERRRUPDURP WE WERE WRONG and be done with this game, but I'd feel bad if we didn't get a chance to fuck around first.

We're Fate fanboys with an ability called WHITE KNIGHT which allows us to save someone from a lynch aka we're a one-shot governor

Try and lynch us and we'll use it on ourselves, it's that simple

SpyreX might kill me for claiming early, I don't care. If you want us dead, you'll have to waste a lynch or vig us, because scum obviously isn't going to kill us.

Now fuck off.

Wait a second, you're

FATE FANBOYS WITH A POWER THAT'S ONLY PROVABLE IF WE LYNCH YOU?

The man who says that all powers that are provable only on lynch should find themselves immediately lynched to prove them?

You're the worst Fate fanboys in the history of all time ever.

The killing time begins now, folks.

[GreyICE]

Also my awesome ability was that I could let Chesskid post in the thread for a day.

He didn't know anything about the setup, or any alignments (including mine) but he happily agreed to post for Faraday anyway!

Sadly LLD didn't cancel the contract, so the awesome that could have been will never be.

[GreyICE]

Also for GreyICE - why didn't you use your ability?

I can't really offer one. I have a few nifty powers, but only two that are provable and I can't use either night one (all my abilities involve transposing the word Chesskid into different things, a handful of letters at a time).

N1 I could spell Chesskit, which let me spell Chesswin N2 to get Chesskid in thread.

I could also make myself 1 shot bulletproof, or a 1 shot suicide vigilante.

But... I'm a VT.

[GreyICE]

Oh yeah, and if I spelled 'Epicfail' then I won the game and left the thread, but that is neutral survivor bullshit and I hate playing that.

[GreyICE]

Unvote: Screaming Death Clan

for the moment.

Wait, WHY?

They can cancel their own lynch. Not only is this a weird use of the governor power (governor being able to govern themselves), not only is governor not a very town thing to claim, but they more or less dared us to lynch them, saying they were 'lolconfirmed town' (I'VE BEEN A FUCKING SCUM GOVERNOR BEFORE IT DOES NOT CONFIRM YOU TOWN).

Explanations Vi, because I'm not feeling very charitable if they flip red.

[GreyICE]

BUT THAT ROLE ISN'T A TOWN ROLE has to be the worst thing I've heard all game. Pretty much.

We can only cancel our own lynch for a very specific reason, like I said there's a caveat to our role

Your play is obvscum, you lying little worm. I've been saying this since, oh... DAY FUCKING ONE. Don't try and twist it into something it's not.

I want you dead. Your role claim made me want you dead more. Now your role is developing caveats.

And if we removed all of that? You'd still die.

[GreyICE]

I'll compose bad poetry in your memory, then put on my best eyeliner and cut my wrists in the bathtub while listening to Evanescence.

[GreyICE]

I was planning to put on some nice relaxing mood music and take a good trip to the sauna. Maybe treat myself to a massage.

[GreyICE]

yeah okay here's the motherfucking deal here

I'm sick and tired of this game; SpyreX is sick and tired of this game. It'd actually be fucking hilarious to watch us get lynched then watch all the retards behind it go HERRRUPDURP WE WERE WRONG and be done with this game, but I'd feel bad if we didn't get a chance to fuck around first.

We're Fate fanboys with an ability called WHITE KNIGHT which allows us to save someone from a lynch aka we're a one-shot governor

Try and lynch us and we'll use it on ourselves, it's that simple

SpyreX might kill me for claiming early, I don't care. If you want us dead, you'll have to waste a lynch or vig us, because scum obviously isn't going to kill us.

Now fuck off.

Oh I'm sorry you're holding the town hostage AND you're not even bothering to pretend you're town while doing so.

Jesus.

[GreyICE]

I dun ... wut.

Even assuming that restriction exists it'd obviously be off role gender, not player gender.

[GreyICE]

Lessee, SpyreX, you want to do a 1v1 with me after your... whatever you call day 1... when... what the fuck?

The noble sacrifice bit doesn't make me think town. Vote stays until you dance.

[GreyICE]

Everything on this page is deliberately designed to lower IQ.

I'm spamming until I get a new page.

[GreyICE]

Also the Hindu wagon sucks because...

...

...

I mean I don't even have to explain this.

[GreyICE]

Vi: "Does scum make this post"
SDC: "Well scum could, yeah"
Vi: "Well, I was voting for you, but that makes perfect sense, lets 180"
AGM: "Haha I was voting for Vi but Vi's bussing lets lynch Vi."

It's 10 pounds of stupid in a five pound bag.

[GreyICE]

Did SDC also try to claim town cred because he's so fucking useless even he thinks his play says the scumteam keep him around for a mislynch?

That's like past self meta and into just calling yourself the village idiot.

[GreyICE]

And lets not even get started on Vi, I don't even think Vi's play is scummy so much as it is incomprehensible.

[GreyICE]

Welp, new page.

Try not to put so much fucking stupid on this one, folks.

[GreyICE]

The idea that you can hang me is laughable.

I mean literally speaking, the two people who just joined you on the Hindu wagon were calling for you to be killed, and you're calling for one of them to be killed.

That can be three fucktarded townies, or it can be three reasonably decent players, but an option there is NOT that there's three reasonably decent townies doing that stunt. Unless you're all high on crack and didn't invite me.

[GreyICE]

I think he's town. I think the wagon is crap. I'd rather do the irony wagon again, I'm leaning town on them but at least CSL is posting jack fucking shit.

I want a fucking Benmage wagon, but apparently having BOTH PLAYERS contributing nothing and having blatant lies and then NOT BOTHERING to fix it is somehow townie, because benmage wouldn't be arrogant enough to think he could get away with it as scum.

Fucking benmage wouldn't be arrogant enough to think he could get away with something.

Too. Arrogant. For. Benmage.

-_-

So fuck your questions, fuck your idea that you can get me lynched with your 'town cred' and fuck your wagon.

[GreyICE]

And lets not even get started on Vi, I don't even think Vi's play is scummy so much as it is incomprehensible.

DOES IT NOT OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE TWO MIGHT IN FACT BE RELATED

But Benmage/Merensial is much LESS comprehensible, AND in an amazingly scummy way. Plus benmage doesn't actually seem to give a shit about anything.

SDC at least gives two shits, but to show this he had industrial grade 55 gallon drums of WIFOM shipped to my apartment. C.O.D. too. He's a prick that way.

[GreyICE]

Nevermind.

Hold the phones.

Vi needs death.

PEdit: SDC's willingness to die for the town is commendable too. We should take him up on that offer.

BUT VI JUST CLAIMED NEEDING DEATH AND NOW THAT WILL HAPPEN

[GreyICE]

I think he's town.

Okay I'm convinced.

Unvo

on second thought etc.

If you want a Benmage wagon so badly, why aren't you voting him? There's already some interest in that wagon, so etc.

While I'm here, there may be a chance of this not being three Townies in a row but I just get the impression that I'm the only person who wants to vote AGM.

LESSEE YOU SCUMBAG

I MOVED TO SDC BECAUSE THE WAGON WAS MORE VIABLE THAN BENMAGE.

That's actually not the question I had.

I still want Irony dead, but if you're willing to put out a story like this for me I'll bite.

Unvote: Irony
Vote: Screaming Death Clan

(L-4)

THEN OFF THAT ONTO IRONY

THEN OFF THAT ONTO HINDRUGI WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SUPPORT THERE.

Well, I was actually talking about the part where Hinduragi threw out six Town reads in particular, but you're right about the rest. Extra points for the part about not voting the mod.

How's this, then?

Unvote: Irony
Vote: Hinduragi

(L-6)

I'm pretty sure GreyICE isn't reading the same game we are, so etc.

BUT NOW YOU'RE CRITICIZING ME FOR VOTING FOR A MORE VIABLE WAGON?

YOU ENORMOUS HYPOCRITE, THIS SORT OF TWO-FACED LOGIC DON'T COME FROM TOWN.

VOTE: VI

LETS LEAVE IT THERE FOR THE REST OF TODAY, SINCE YOU SEEM TO WANT THIS.

[GreyICE]

This must be one of those "changes of heart" on your part.

Yup. Your two-faced logic made you fly up in the scum department to number one.

But I'll make you happy.

EVERYONE: VI DIES TODAY. MAKE IT SO

[GreyICE]

Unless the claim was really irritating for you to keep up, because it was a stupid claim, so retracting it would have made everyone assume the obvious retard was an OBVIOUS RETARD.

Also the grate and powahfal benmage certainly can get away with scumnanigans that lesser mortals (that's all of them) cannot.

[GreyICE]

Wait a second, there's zero scumreason to unlock your claim lock, and deconfirm someone you confirmed?

o_O

Basic mafia theory, I thought you were better at it than this.

[GreyICE]

Which I've gotten away with as scum.

I mean I know you're worse scum than me, but you don't THINK you're worse scum than me.

[GreyICE]

When did the Screaming Death Clan initiate Mastin into its ranks?

[GreyICE]

Anyway, Vi and SDC are both scum.

Witness their vast ability to, since day 1, call each other scum while artfully staying off serious wagons on each other. Distance, distance, distance.

[GreyICE]

I want to point out something very interesting. SDC and Vi have been dancing a long time.

Here's the first time they bump into each other:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3346008
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3346015
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3346024


Vi next mentions SDC here:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3346972

SpyreX's TOWN reads range from "easy" to "incomprehensible", and he seems unusually nice, but I'm not convinced of "probably scum". What did you expect the discussion to entail?

All of a sudden SDC does this:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3347253

Merisanel is still town and fff on you LLD AND Vi.
Unvote, Vote: Vi

Now I can get more of the triforce THE TIME OF ASCENSION IS AT HAND

You've got no bite and I'm absolutely :tinfoil: about that now. I can understand 279 maybe but no bite NO BITE.

Vi's response:

Ohhh SpyreX wants to *dance*. The instant you say :tinfoil: your entire post becomes impossible to take seriously (lessons from Porkens). You know what it's like to be "not Town with a capitol T but town nonetheless". You can't justify your vote without resorting to paranoia. Don't pretend otherwise.

*Screaming Death Clan - I agree with whoeveritwas that the dissonance between SDC's first two posts is jarring in a "no please take us off that wagon" kind of way. In addition, normally when I see people say "go ahead and pick people off the wagon" (318), that means there's almost no scum on the wagon. Then again, this makes them a bit less likely to be scum with Amrun/AGM. I still hate the Candle Labra gut clear. Overall more likely to be Town than I want to admit, which if nothing else keeps them out of the tier below.

Note: Read = Null.

READ NOT REVISING MUCH DESPITE AGM AND AMRUN BEING TOWN.

SDC:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3348464

VI IS SCUM VI IS SCUM VI IS SCUM LOLOLOLOLOL


SDC:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3351421

TROLOLOL READ CHANGE TIME LOL

VI: Votes for SDC!

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3352496

SDC votes Vi!
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3390762


Vi votes SDC!
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3391337

Oh hey, they can't be scum together since they attack each other so much.

BUT WAIT!

What's this?

L-2 and...
Screaming Death Clan (5) - Irony, Hinduragi,

Vi,

GreyICE, Yami-Swan

Becomes:

Screaming Death Clan (4) - Irony, Hinduragi, GreyICE, Yami-Swan

See anything interesting?

Hinduragi (4)-

Vi,

AlmasterGM,

Screaming Death Clan,

Regfan

I do.

A scum flip from one of you means the other dies. And that, m'dears, really is that.

Unvote

Vote: Screaming Death Clan

SDC scum = Vi dies and not one force in the universe can stop it.

And that's what I want right now, because Vi? Town does not pull that two-faced hypocritical bullshit out to criticize someone. Town stops and goes 'hey, that's more or less what I'm doing.'

TOWN TRIES TO FIND SCUM
SCUM TRIES TO FIND SOMETHING SCUMMY

YOU DID THE LATTER
YOU DIE IN A FIRE
SDC SCUM ENSURES YOU DIE LIKE A SCARED RAT

[GreyICE]

Oh lawd it needs death.

Where's two votes on SDC?

Hey SpyreX, why don't you go back to self voting?

[GreyICE]

Hindu isnt scum. 100% isnt... HORRID wagon. Gosh, I havent even been playing and I know this!

I dont see a selfvote...

vote Hindu

Oh my lord.

Could hindu suicide to kill his wagon, it's questionable if the game would be ongoing.

[GreyICE]

Also, Vi, your on again off again flirting with SDC has processed into hilarious.

Glad to see he's now a town read off that magic claim.

Screaming Death Clan (5) - Vezokpiraka, Hinduragi, Yami-Swan, Mastermind of Sin, GreyICE

Like... one scum. MAYBE.

Hinduragi (5)- Vi, AlmasterGM, Screaming Death Clan, Regfan, Benmage

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

[GreyICE]

Also, Vi, if you were a dayvig, prior experience suggests the town would have lost already. BUT YOU'RE SCUM THANK GOD THAT'S SO MUCH SAFER

[GreyICE]

True, you'd probably need another day or two to shoot enough townies

[GreyICE]

Yes, yes, you're feeling like a cheeky scumbag, I get it.

Your clock is ticking.

[GreyICE]

Vi's asking you to vote for Vi or SDC

[GreyICE]

LLD isn't hammering unless she's about to shock me.

Nikanor... can't vote.

Their hindu wagon is stalled out.

Meanwhile one person on the Hindu wagon has called hindu 100% town, and several have called SDC scum.

Time to see how the put up or shut up goes.

[GreyICE]

I only just got the time I needed for this game (Family/friend commitments are over for a while) and although I LOVE this Hind wagon because I'm near positive he's lollurkingscum blaming his lack of posting on his voting restriction I don't want a lynch happening before I do an entire read through of this thread again. I'm actually getting some slight town vibes from SDC at the moment which means I have a read wrong somewhere and considering I'm likely to bite the bullet soon (Probably tonight) I want to work it out long before then.

GreyICE, you're going to need to stop this fucking playing coy bullshit and actually explain the entire reasoning behind your town-read on Hind because this is Scum-Hind right here though the one thing I do agree with you on is that Benmages vote on Hind is fucked up and reads as last minute bussing (I want his claim fully out in the open and sorted now, there's more reasoning behind this then I care to share right now).

Vi is indeed a neighbourizer, not particularly interested in outting what we discussed at the moment but long story short I'm not seeing the Vi-scum read after having a conversation with him yesterday nor am I seeing this Vi-obvscumness that you're attempting to push. Her 'interactions' with SDC and backing of voting them now is understandable because it's the same situation that I'm in regarding SDC.

Unvote

"This is scum hindu" strikes of metagaming bullshit, and you know how much I love that.

Hindu
- Ignored the 3rd party kerfluffle when I'm CERTAIN scum was either pushing me or MoS in that.
- Spends a lot of time defining town reads

SDC is basically confirmed scum. CandleJack is next in line. Amrun is after that.

Vi is town. LLD is town. Mer is town. Yami is town. inHim is town because it turns out I can read him but not the other way around. MoS is town.

I can guarantee a SDC scumflip at this point. I'm not as sure about the other two and my role is keeping me from even being able to scumhunt how I want so let's lynch SDC and tomorrow we can go back to those two. I can only vote three people per day. I must tunnel on one of the three I voted. That's why I'm being very picky about who I vote.

No, I mean I literally can't vote for anyone except them. See, watch:

Unvote; Vote: LLD

I likey. I like all of his ISO.

I dislike SDC drawing breath. That'll cease soon.

I dislike Vi criticizing me for wagoning a 'lesser suspect' when Vi straight up admits to doing the same thing. That's not finding scum, that's finding things that are scummy.

[GreyICE]

I dislike Vi criticizing me for wagoning a 'lesser suspect' when Vi straight up admits to doing the same thing. That's not finding scum, that's finding things that are scummy.

That's finding people who inexplicably don't want to be on lynching wagons on people they think are scum.

So Benmage was at zero votes, but by avoiding voting for him I'm showing I don't want to be on his lynching wagon?

That's flailing, Vi. Useless, scummy flailing.

[GreyICE]

Hi Vi. You've called SDC scum how many times now? You were voting for hem? Did you forget?

[GreyICE]

Hi Vi. You've called SDC scum how many times now? You were voting for hem? Did you forget?

I changed my mind.
That was the basis for a few of your previous accusations in the past 48 hours or so, so I'm not sure how you didn't notice.

Yes Vi, I noticed. As I said, I always get nice tingly feelings when a wagon suddenly gets hard despite a whole bunch of scummy people calling the target of the wagon scum.

SDC is a nice tingly feeling.

[GreyICE]

This is like the fifth time you've ignored yourself?

You die when SDC flips scum. Sit there and wait for it.

[GreyICE]

Oh look.

Benmage wants a mass claim.

[GreyICE]

So far benmage is

- Confirmed liar
- Apparently post restricted, or something, which he's apparently broken without modkill
- Straight up claims he will be lurking
- Has not read game
- Is wagoning a town read
- Is claim fishing like mad
- Has actually used the defense he'd be playing less scummy if he were scum

Anyone feel a compromise coming on? His entire play boils down to 'I'm way too scummy to actually be scum, right?'

[GreyICE]

Well you're not voting for any wagon, so well

[GreyICE]

@SDC: I want you, benmage, or Vi lynched. There's 4-5 scum in this setup.

Coincidence? The way you and Vi have been distancing until it counts? I think not.

[GreyICE]

SDC is still alive.

Lets change this.

[GreyICE]

Ah, it begins. Hindu is a crap counterwagon so you're trying to start a new one~

[GreyICE]

SDC is town other than his scummy-as-fuck claim. In other words, I'm not lynching him but don't want him around in lylo.

GreyICE is obv Third party (who wouldn't put VHESSKID as a third party--pretty sure thats who he is). His goal is probably something like TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm town. I did have an alternate win condition to fall back on that required me to live to night 6, but NOT ANYMORE so I'm just VT.

[GreyICE]

Why is benmage town?

[GreyICE]

Unvote

Vote: Benmage

Lets see if we can make something happen.

Case: have you been reading Benmage?

[GreyICE]

Its a tie.

well, b4 the benmage votes.

Why the switch? GreyICE and vezok, do you simply think SDC lynch is unlikely or do you actually find Benmage scummier?

Really? Explain why he's town here.

[GreyICE]

Come on benmage is RIGHT THERE. All like 'shit they're not buying that voting for a '100% town' read and claiming not to read the game or care is townie.'

Why is he town? Anyone? Right, no one has a town read on his slot except maybe Vi.

[GreyICE]

Vi, help me out here. I've repeatedly said Hinduragi is town AND I hate his wagon.

What part of this have you missed? Is it the part where you're NOT READING THE FUCKING THREAD?

I think it is.

[GreyICE]

At this point The Three Stooges need death so fucking hard that I'm literally shocked that they're not all shot to shit.

Vi is just making crap up to throw at me while refusing to vote for me because "LOL FUCKING AWESOME HINDU WAGON OUT OF NOWHERE."

SDC should have been shot night 1.

Benmage isn't even bothering to pretend he's town.

Why the fuck haven't Larry, Curly, and Moe here been lynched so hard they bounced?

[GreyICE]

Why SDC (AKA Larry) Needs Death, 101

Lets ignore their scummy ass play, their scummy ass 180s, and their scummy ass way that they pitch a shit fit and contradict themselves. Lets ignore SpyreX's scummy ass posting, and his 'oh golly gee you'll be so sad when I flip town because I'm adding SO MUCH to this thread.'

Lets just look at this claim again:

yeah okay here's the motherfucking deal here
I'm sick and tired of this game; SpyreX is sick and tired of this game. It'd actually be fucking hilarious to watch us get lynched then watch all the retards behind it go HERRRUPDURP WE WERE WRONG and be done with this game, but I'd feel bad if we didn't get a chance to fuck around first.
We're Fate fanboys with an ability called WHITE KNIGHT which allows us to save someone from a lynch aka we're a one-shot governor
Try and lynch us and we'll use it on ourselves, it's that simple
SpyreX might kill me for claiming early, I don't care. If you want us dead, you'll have to waste a lynch or vig us, because scum obviously isn't going to kill us.
Now fuck off.

There's a caveat to our little condition but it's fairly pointless
Apparently Fate loves defending damsels in distress? that's what it says in the PM. don't ask me where that shit comes from, I don't write the flavor... though it could have something to do with Goofbash and I wouldn't know. Fate/Faraday/Mina were all there. Maybe it has something to do with that.

Our caveat is that we can only use it on "damsels" in distress which means anyone who has "female" or "none" listed in their gender in their profile... I suspect this comes from Fate being like OMG KATSUKI IS A MALE? at Goofbash since Katsuki listed no gender, but that's just a guess.

That's why we switched our gender from "Male" to "None" today so that we could use it on ourselves.

As SpyreX said in our QT, it's almost worth letting us get lynched today so that the bullshit people pushing our wagon get accurately examined under the knife from here on out... but if town's going to be this stupid and let this lynch go through, I'm going to troll the shit out of this first.

THIS IS THE SHITTIEST FUCKING FAKECLAIM EVER.

Why Vi (AKA Curly) Needs Death

Benmage is not the lynch for Today.

I've certainly made scummoves like what SDC just did (Neruzian Era Mafia) and

they're one of the few people I would trade my Irony vote for,

but before I do that, I think you know what question I have.

If you want a Benmage wagon so badly, why aren't you voting him? There's already some interest in that wagon, so etc.

LOOK AT THESE BLATANT FUCKING 180S. THIS IS VI SCUM PROBING FOR ANOTHER POSSIBLE MISLYNCH.

CURLY DIES LIKE A STUCK PIG, BLEATING IN TERROR.

Why Benmage (AKA Moe) Needs Death

Are you fucking serious?

DemonHybrid mentioned Meransial twice and then when everyone started saying 'oh Meran was town' promptly forgot about her. That's scum going 'what the fuck are you high on, buddy' in the thread and then when the town buys it goes 'oh well they're smoking the good stuff.'

Meran could not actually have been scummier.

I agree that MoI is scummy for accepting the deal, betting on it actually. I would even go a step further, in saying that the very fact that LLD has that power, and decided to reveal it, pegs her as town. AND we need to star doing something here anyway.

Vote: MoI

As a side note, there is something that doesn't sit quite right with me concerning AlmasterGM's posts, but it's somewhat gut so I'll follow on it when we will have more posts from him. Oh, almost forgot! This is...rather important, so:
@all hydras: Please state the complete join date (year, month, day) of your heads.

My suspicion of Amrun comes primarily from the way she handles the MoI thing. As for the above, I'd rather attribute it to a poor choice of words.

Mastermind is a very good candidate for a scum kill. I am not, because my death would confirm Mastermind 100%. Which makes me a good vig kill.

Look, I am making a deal with you guys. A very simple deal that will help everyone.

NO protective roles will target MoI tonight, aside from me.

MoI will NOT use his ability on me.
If, on Day 2, I am dead and MoI is alive, you will trust MoI and his results.

If, on Day 2, I am alive and MoI is dead, you lynch me.

If, on Day 2, I am alive and MoI is alive, I am making the deal again.
So, who's in?

I mean are you READING this shit?

He asks for a hydra claim of heads join dates, and then never mentions hydras again. He asked ALL OTHER protective roles to back off MoI and that he'd protect him and MoI FUCKING DIED. He claimed MoS was confirmed town and now Benmage has unclaimed it.


THAT SLOT IS SO SCUMMY IT FUCKING REEKS.

AND IT NEEDS TO DIE.

SO MOE FIRST. THEN CURLY, AND WE'LL GET TO YOU YET, LARRY M'BOY.


FUCKING WHY ARE MORE PEOPLE NOT FUCKING VOTING BENMAGE? WHERE IS THIS FUCKING STRONGMAN SPECULATION COMING FROM? WE KILL FUCKING OBVIOUS SCUM TODAY FOLKS.

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LLD

NO

NOT YOU

I NEED IT TO NOT BE YOU

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Ohhh wow Yami is scum or is playing at super mega teaparty. I'm thinkin scum.

Because I'm about 99.5% positive Fate isn't in your hydra and that was some SERIOUS snowballing there.

Unvote, Vote: Yami-Swan

HEY DUMBASS

KATSUKI IS IN THE HYDRA.

WHEN HE SAID 'IT REVOLVES AROUND ME' HE MEANT KATSUKI

FUCKING DUH

FUCKING OBV DUH

WORST ATTEMPT AT COUNTERWAGON EVER

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Hindu isnt scum. 100% isnt... HORRID wagon. Gosh, I havent even been playing and I know this!

DH IS ON HIS WAY OUT, scum dont say shit like this!!!

Lol....hell no. He aint that good. You're going to crazy mad sciencey on me.

OcRzr

SDC unvote Hindu or I'll vote u.

That whambulance I'm not gonna govern = puke.

And anyone voting SDC...after he does govern himself... You better vote him again. Cause that role isn't an alignment tell.

You think HINdu would call DH, as DH is being strung up.

DROP THE SMURFING APATHY. Its NOOB. Ur better than that.

When things get tough you need to buckle down and get tougher.

Whats scum 101 goto plan. Frustrate town.

I dont see a selfvote...

vote Hindu

HAAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHA

HOW 'BOUT DEM APPLES SCUMMAGE?

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Shit. That actually makes sense.

If Mers died N1 after protecting MoI, it'd mean scum shot MoI (since no vig would), thus confirming his results. Which would make that entire rant make sense.

If there was someone even competent in that slot at any point, I'd assume gambit, but that's dumb enough for Meran, and Benmage is just dumb enough to assume his life is the most valuable thing possible and NOT ACTUALLY READ THE FUCKING GAME.

This 'scum have a roleblocker' shit is getting old, but there's only so many days he can ride that one.

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Well then... he stays Moe. But Moe might be town.

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Hinduragi has the 4th highest post count on the activity list. Please define lurker again.

Vote: Vi

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Oh wait.

Fuck this noise.

Vote Regfan

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Irony 2011-08-30 13:42:16 10 days 2 hours 24
Regfan 2011-09-09 08:13:53 0 days 8 hours 11
vezokpiraka 2011-09-08 15:50:19 1 day 0 hours 8

THIS IS WHAT LURKING LOOKS LIKE

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Actually, you know, fuck it.

Watch this.

Vote: Hinduragi

You know what? Whatever.

This day literally could not be more anti-town at this point in time. I hate everything about it.

PEDIT: YOUR COMBINED POSTS ARE LIKE ZERO VEZOK

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Unvote

'cause I don't trust Vezok, town or scum.

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LLD - why Yami?

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Because Benmage town fucking irritates me and regs is coasting hardcore.

Someone coasting is scum. Maybe quite a few.

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Vote for hindu then gone because you don't trust vezok? Noiiiceeeeeeeeee

Well that clearly wasn't what happened.

Want to try again?

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'kay

Did Hindu post anywhere in there?

Quickly now

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Vote Yami-Swan

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Wait, Vi's bussing hardcore.

Hmmm...

Tempting, Vi, tempting.

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Vote: Vi

I was flailing about yesterday in such a scummy way as I tried to avoid the lynch on my partner Hinduragi... OH WAIT

Hang.

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Halp I'm scum I give up.

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It's okay, GreyICE, you don't have to lurk.

You know, since I posted

YESTERDAY

I've made 8 posts in mafia games.

Three of them within the past 30 minutes, as I've been updating my games.

I'm the second most active person on the activity overview.

I'm lurking? Fuck you and die.

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We lynch Vi, not VI. Come on people.

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People who have not posted since I posted last (LESS THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS AGO):

Nikanor
Screaming Death Clan
Yami-Swan

OH LOOK AT THAT LIST.

SNAP.

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No, 'cause I'm waiting for Yami to post.

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Mafia requires thought and concentration.

GD and Forum 62 are for chatting. Yeah, sometimes it's easier to post there than here.

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Reading the groundwork being laid for ToastyToast's mislynch Tomorrow is kind of upsetting. My bet was on Yami-Swan for the LyLo mislynch Tomorrow.

LLD, SDC, and Benmage are all lining up for Toast... If two of these are Town, that's the game, is it not?

You're posting WIFOM for us for after you flip.

My god are you scum.

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You literally posted 'welp I'm going down, here's some prepackaged WIFOM for you.'

Die Vi, die.

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Also the epic bus fest between SDC and Vi still looks like... an epic bus fest.

Reckoner yelling a lot just makes it a really bad epic bus fest.

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12:5 is quite the scum-sided game. If Faraday really stuck 5 scum versus 12 town, welp.

I mean if you knew anything about setups you'd know that was highly... WAIT A SECOND.

Could you just stop claiming scum against me with your setup spec? It's really really bad.

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Fuck you, SpyreX. Fuck you. If you're town, this is worse than that self-vote in NGE.

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*twitch*

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'kay, it's obviously mass claim day. Nikanor, can you vote at all?

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So we're in MyLo, and the obvious thing to do is lynch the voteless vig to see if a 1-shot vigilante which has been given to scum numerous times is given to scum in exchange for their ability to vote which would be ENTIRELY FUCKING FAIR.

BUT NO FATE GOVERNED HIM

HELLO BENMAGE 2.0, MEET BENMAGE 1.0.

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Anyway, Toasty ignoring MC requests means Toasty is up now.

Claim and popcorn, toaster.

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I thought that was an LOLSCUMGAMBIT

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So mastermind of sin didn't want to lynch me until today, when suddenly the back pocket mislynch comes out?

Vote: mastermind of sin

Vote down in MyLo. Good job not mentioning me. Scum team is aligning themselves nicely here.

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So mastermind of sin didn't want to lynch me until today, when suddenly the back pocket mislynch comes out?

Vote: mastermind of sin

Vote down in MyLo. Good job not mentioning me before today, derpface.

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So mastermind of sin didn't want to lynch me until today, when suddenly the back pocket mislynch comes out?

Vote: mastermind of sin

Vote down in MyLo. Good job not mentioning me. Scum team is aligning themselves nicely here.

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Grey are we scum or not?

No, derpface, you haven't been scum since midway through day 3 when I started looking for a better wagon than the two I was dealing with. Of course I'm scum, so I don't know why you're asking

I'm feeling fucking certain that MoS is scum, the read wagon is too much of a rotating 'choose your own adventure' book.

We're missing a lot of people from this thread, which says to me someone's waiting for two votes to go on someone, and my pick is you or toasty. Which probs means you're both town.

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All on day 1. Then you forget about me, now I'm definitely scum.

Dum dee dee. Quicktopic has plans.

Yami/MoS/Toasty? Say it aint so!

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wat.

GreyICE, what the fuck?

Brains, Reckoner.

Brains.

Stop playing like benmage.

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THE THIRD PARTY

IS THE FUCKING MODERATOR

WE GOT THIS TOLD TO US TWO DAYS AGO

JESUS CHRIST OBV NO OTHER THIRD PARTIES ARGH

AND THAT'S IGNORING YOU BLATANTLY NOT READING THE THREAD.

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YOU BEING LYNCHED HERE WOULD BE JUSTICE X 500 FOR YOUR HORRIBLE FUCKING PLAY FOR THIS ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. FOR SPYREX BEING SO FUCKING BAD THAT HE MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM. FOR DECLAIMING AND RECLAIMING YOUR ROLE. FOR FATE SUCKING A GIANT DOUCHENOZZLE OF PAIN IN THIS GAME.

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Okay so mastermind is scum.

What is going on here?

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Okay so mastermind is scum.

What is going on here?

???

You should be lynched already.

Stalling is getting irritating.

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MoS hasn't claimed....

The chances he's scum have gone up significantly.

That only makes this game THAT much harder to parse out though

Oh look, the hamster is waking up out of the drunken stupor.

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Hey Elli?

I'm with fate here.

Vote: Yami-Swan

Katsuki never claimed to be able to read Fate.

That's a scumclaim.

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Hey Elli, I just put you at L-1 in MyLo.

Am I scum?

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Hmm.

Unvote

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Welp, I'm a survivor, this is LyLo, you know the drill scum. Someone put down a vote on no lynch, I'll add mine, and then you can hammer it.

Don't make me actually give a shit.

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ffs GreyICE, don't make me want to lynch you even MORE...if you're not scum and you're actually a third party survivor, you deserve to win even less. If I wasn't convinced SDC was the right lynch today, I'd string you up just to make sure you lose before the game ends (on the offchance that you're not just scum, which is still more likely).

Sure, lynch a neutral survivor in LyLo. Why not?

Simple facts, scum. No matter how we cut it, you obviously have 2 votes today (I honestly don't give a fuck if Nikanor is scum or not). With me, you'll have 3 to no lynch. That's hammer on no lynch, or we can wait it out if Faraday is a cock, not like the town can lynch with half the votes missing.

That makes it easy. I win, you win, benmage loses, this is basically full of pros.

Don't play ball and I'll go back to scumhunting and try and get all you fucking donkeys killed for making me actually fucking give a shit about this horrible game with its horrible players and FUCKING BENMAGE. What the fuck am I going to do, double cross you? It's not like I have a bulletproof or something, I'm obviously fucking vanilla, and if you shoot me I fucking lose the fucking game.