Encore Mafia: Mod Mayhem - ENDGAME: LORDS OF THE DUST

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sup

Vote: CSL

first 3 pages important Faraday? y/n

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Empking is town
Faraday is town

voting bloc status achieved
let's go

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@Reck: Faraday yes, Empking lol no. And don't you dare hold Psychic Mafia over my head, because this game is now and that was then.

Oh if I can't hold psychic mafia over your head can I hold Lost S5 over it instead?

PREDIT: oh okay so NS for ::confirmed scum:: too

Vote: NS

PREDITTTTTX2: YES FARADAY YES

PREDITTTTTTTX3: shush now Empking this is townVtown

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fuck it i quit too many ninjas

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Okay so we have me/Faraday/Empking/Parama/dramonic now in the voting bloc.

Let's get one more and start running this shit

You guys are 100% town and if any of them flip scum you can lynch me hard

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I have approximately zero opinions on this game right now aside from a few nebulous town reads. Namely, NS, UK, Plum, Faraday. Partially by extension I have a nebulous scum read on Empking. Plus UK's 148 rings a bell fo sho.

VOTE: Empking

ಠ_ಠ

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Well, this is gonna be fun.

Vote: Plum

RVS.

UK, what are your thoughts on zoraster?

fluff questioning

Emp: She's toying with us. I don't know why, yet.

vague stance/read without anything to back it

Empking: What are your thoughts on Locke Lamora's posting thus far?

Disingenuous.

Vote: Faraday

this is literally the exact same quote he asked UK, but when Faraday says it, it's disingenuous

Unvote

Vote: UK

reasonless voooooooooooootes

Faraday: Do you have a post restriction?

fluff questioning again

Unvote

Vote: UK

Explain, I think you have a good reason but it's not scummy if it's the reason I think it is.

She strikes me as at

least

anti-town, but verging on scummy. She's being antagonistic and a bit of a loose cannon so far. Not pro-town at all.

"she is scummy" isn't a reason for voting someone
being a loose cannon doesn't make someone scum
"she's being antagonistic" is about as empty as "she is scummy"

I do tend to somewhat go 'by the book' which is not the best, I admit. Once in a great while I get a great hunch or see something that sparks a thought.

Honestly, haven't paid much attention to Parama yet. I need to rectify that. Let's see, as of the time of this writing, Parama = 6 posts; UK = 23 posts. Hmmm. I wonder why UK is more on my radar than anyone else.

Okay, I'll grant that you're perhaps reaction fishing. Not my style, but if it works for you....

unvote

Getting ready to go out. Will catch up tonight and vote then.

MORE NOTHINGNESS AND FENCE SITTING

why he's not already at L-1 and being quickhammered w/out a claim i do not know

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yeah so was his

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Plum seems town but then again she kinda revitalized her scum game with me in POWERFUL WIZARD and it's making me nervous as fuck to call her town

ZOMG FARAWAY WHAT A DISINGENUOUS QUESTION

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what is contradictory fluff about Plum's post

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I am a people of proud heritage and strong bloodlines

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Katsuki is always the fourth

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wait

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Katsuki can be the 4th if we want, I guess.

vote: Faraday

you cheeky little bastard

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Faraday's amazing inside knowledge that there are four scum in this setup

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EBWOP: specifically, one scumteam of 4

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don't you smile at me you cheeky fuckin' scumbag

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There are 16 players, it seems like a reasonable assumption?

could be 3v3v10, or 2v3v11, or 3v1v12... there are plenty of cominbations available, assuming four scum is quite the jump

plus the way he said it

it wasn't

"Oh we're probably in 4:12 setup here" it was like "yeah Katsuki is THE fourth" as in he already knows there are four

FIRE ZE MISSILEZ

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Reck what are you doing
Farady is still town
P.S. everyone here has made setups and know that 4 scum in 16p is to be expected, and that 5 is too many and 3 is too few.

scumbuddy #1 maybe

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you people are missing out on FARADAY SCUMSLIP and aren't even seeing it

he's hopped up on meds of course he's more likely to slip right now

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unvote, vote: Reck

Okay so we have me/Faraday/Empking/Parama/dramonic now in the voting bloc.

one scum in dram/emp if reck flips scum.

oh yeah, this is Faraday's #1 buddy

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Faraday I will fight you

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Unvote

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Vote: Parama

I'LL TRADE ONE SCUMBAG FOR THE OTHER

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Reck playing by the book scares me about his alignment. Further, Reck attacking a "4 scum" read? What the hell? THIS ISN'T THE AWESOME RECK I KNOW D:! WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH RECK?

@Parama: ...would Reck REALLY be that blatant though? I mean, it seems kind of suicidal for scum Reck to do something so ridiculous. Something is off kilter and I don't know what yet.

@Dram: ARGH, EVERYONE IS WEIRD SAVE ME FROM THE DERP!

I...WANT to believe Reck is scum, that whole "OH MAI GAWD FOURRRRRRR SCUMMMMMM" thing is pretty awful for Reck. But...I'd like to think as scum he'd AVOID being awful...

Brain. It hurts.

HELLO CHILDREN
TODAY I BRING YOU THE AMOUNT OF GAMES IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE SAID I'M NOT AWESOMETOWNRECK FOR NOT CATCHING SCUM BY PAGE THREE

ELEVENTYBILLION


and NO of COURSE faraday isn't scum

PREDIT: awwwwww yeahhhhh now dey just crawlin' out da woodwerkz

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Neither have I.

Can we lynch Parama now?

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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

UNVOTE VOTE NIKANOR

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I will now only respond in pictures of facial expressions.

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unvote, vote: Reck

I don't know

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Guys is there any reason I shouldn't fake a post restriction since you're not voting Katsuki?

?

FL: Why the vote then?

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Yeah I'm not really seeing it either but you're town anyway

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why

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the last time Parama tunneled on me like this he was scum

just sayin'

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correction:

the only other time parama tunneled on me like this he was scum

better?

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FARADAY WAGON PARAMA WITH ME

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Zoraster
Empking
Dramonic
Parama
Uk/Reck
NS

wtf why do me and UK share a line and everyone else gets their own

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What the hell is going on

dram is saying things and people are agreeing with it

UK isn't screaming at me all arrogantly

wtf

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I don't see the AGM case but then again I haven't looked at all

This Empking wagon is fucking terrible... he is totally winning UK vs Empking. There's definitely scum on his wagon somewh--- oh look, there's AGM/CSL/esurio/UK, none of which are on my town list

lynch preference:
Nikanor > Nobody Special > AGM > CSL > UK > esuriospiritus.

why will nobody else lynch NS or Nik with me

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Empking isn't scum.

Why is he the D1 wagon in basically every game he's in?

UK has her RAGETUNNELGLASSES on and won't take them off which is making her see everything Empking does as scummy... look at the resistance from other players. You won't be getting my vote on Empking today, and probably won't be getting it at all without a fucking cop claiming guilty or something. Empking is town.

Now how about we move your vote to a viable alternate wagon so you'll stop playing pied piper for all the derptown/sheeping scumbags?

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EDIT: That's a question for reck too.

Nikanor because his opportunistic hop on me was just absolutely terrible and continues to be terrible. Nobody Special because

I already iso'd him and presented a case, are you just not reading?

AGM/CSL/UK/esuriospiritus are all on there for the simple fact that they're not on my town list and they're wagoning Empking D1, and I've yet to see a single shred of logic used against him... in fact, reading the UK/Emp back and forths, I'd say Emp is CLEARLY winning that argument.

@dram: Thanks, I'm liking an AGM vote myself. But I want to see what Reck suggests. It'll give me a little more insight into him as well.

lynch preference:
Nikanor > Nobody Special > AGM > CSL > UK > esuriospiritus.

literally just posted this a few posts before

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NOW we have some good wagons a-brewin'

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We already know Nik is scum <_<

Because AGM is also scum!

please vote nik thx

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a) Yes, it was.
b) No, it wasn't. I've played with NS maybe like twice that I can actually remember, and one of which I was scum and he was town and I specifically remember him being much more pro-town and helpful than he has been thus far. The case isn't awful, and using meta to try and deflect it is lulzy.

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Nikanor's actually pretty much right, don't see how his vote was opportunistic at all and his points about reck's case echo my feelings.


I dunno man, this feels more like a fucking social gathering than a mafia game. Someone do something ridiculous.

Vote: Faraday

Serious vote this time.

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reck ignoring the fact i'm confirmed town is starting to annoy me

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(he mad I called his case bad imo)

YOU ASKED FOR SOMETHING RIDICULOUS AOIUJSEF8AJ3N9PFASHVA89UY3R79YH7UY

UNVOTE VOTE NIKANOR

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(expired on 2011-09-15 20:47:49)

tick tock.

FARADAY NOOKED ME
BUT WAIT THAT'D BE AGM
AGM HAS A NOOK
FARAFIRMED

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Reck, what do you think about the fact that CSL-lurker is voting ooba-lurker for lurking?

It's CSL. There are no ends to his idiocy regardless of alignment

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CSL is always vigbait. Yes.

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yes

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Plum, I don't really get your point about Lost S5.

I see the nukes. I see the glory.

It puts a tear in my eye.

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#1) AGM is probably town if that nuke is real. Truefax.
#2) Strong case there, gut, yuppers
#3) Empking is clearly winning the argument because you've now proven that you're utterly retarded =D
#4) OH LOOK MORE EMPTY PROMISES FROM NS AND NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH HIM

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UK, tell me what is SO SCUMMY about saying one person seems to be winning an argument

because

he neatly and succinctly refuted EVERY one of your points and you were left without a leg to stand on

so unless you're gonna change it to NO IT'S GUT FOR EMPKING TOO then you're just spitting venom with nothing to back it up


en garde

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if you don't have a content post by the time the countdown of mine goes down I

will

daykill you.

this better be legit
maybe even, too legit
too legit to quit

something about how AGM nuking CSL is a null tell

I know that if I were scum I'd

probably

hold onto that nuke until later in the game for a very strategic kill either when I'm at L-1 about to hammered or when it's MYLO/LYLO.

AGM using it to blow a hole through CSL's skull is +townpoints

@Reck: Because the game isn't about winning arguments. Who wins the argument doesn't determine alignment, and it's utterly SLIMY that you think it does. (I'd also argue that he wasn't winning but I'm too lazy to defend that so :effort:)

yes, yes it is
because if your argument is SHIT and gets COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN, then it no longer has any VALIDITY
like do you just not understand how rational logic works or are you trolling
this game is built around a logical foundation of play... you debate/argue with people. if you have any valid points against them, it sways other people to your cause. if you dont have any valid points against them and get shut down, you're probably pantsonhead town or scum trying to attack someone without a real case

the difference is that i think town would be willing to admit defeat in this situation rather than go "Uhhhhh!!! Gut! Oh yeah! Gut on Reck! And now I can attack Empking again!"

but then again you're

uncertainkitten

the queen of arrogant ass-backwards town play so who fucking knows

And GUT =D is the best case ever. Scum make townies feel icky. Don't you read anything Lord Gurgi says :3?

(Queue Lost S5 shaming)

yeah thanks for completely nullifying any point you were trying to make by saying "scum make townies feel icky" by pointing out how terribly wrong your gut has been in the past

not to mention GUT =D isn't the best case ever by a long shot... a case with valid points and logical reasoning is the best case ever because that's how you catch people, not stupid fucking behavioral gut tells

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@Reck: It's ok, you're a cheeky scumbag. My gut actually is pretty damn awesome when I actually like a game. I like this game. I didn't like Lost S5 because of that AWFUL fucking voting mechanic.

nice response to literally everything I said

'LOL YOU'RE A CHEEKY SCUMBAG'

I'm tempted to go off the deep end screaming about how you're an ignorant, terrible player who only likes to believe she's the motherfucking shit because she rode on Tar's cock for too long, but I won't, because I don't want to bring that sort of drama into the game.

Until you actually present a case on me and can respond to what I say with actual facts/logic, you're going on the ignore list

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I'll take some ad hom mixed in with actual logic.

Oh and by the way, you can stop misrepping me now.
I never said being a better arguer makes you town. What I did say, though, is that having a good case is the key to proving somebody is scum or town, and having a terrible case usually means you're barking up the wrong tree. And terrible cases get destroyed, like yours did.

DAT MISREP
DAT TERRIBLE PLAYER

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also if that was the crux of your case
and I've now pointed out why that's a misrep of what I've said
and you don't come back with anything other than 1) a different case or 2) an apology followed by an unvote

you're fucking scum

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Actually, you said Empking was town for "destroying" my case (something he never did). So not only are you wrong, but now you're lying. Cry moar, scum.

You fucking admit in the same sentence that you don't clearly remember what I said then you accuse me of lying

I said Empking feels town
and that I felt he destroyed your case on him

Those are two separate thoughts, if they got jumbled together, oops

Empking is town for a multitude of reasons, and your insistence on him being scum after having your attempts at attacking him SHUT DOWN are incredibly pathetic and now you're just grasping for straws trying to paint me as scummy, once again being shut down in your attacks (which are basically you twisting words to make them fit how you want), and any time I actually argue against you, you just call me scum and laugh about it

lolnope

I knew you were a bad player, UK, but I didn't know you were

this

terrible

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BIG BAG O NOTHIN YUP

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UK is continuing to misrepresent my points and it's pissing me off to the point where I'm afraid I'm going to get modkilled if I say what I really want to say.

I don't have any "arguments", UK, because I'm not trying to convince anybody that you're scum. All I've said is that Empking is town, and that your argument/case against him failed miserably. Yes, you are a terrible player, but that has no bearing on how much you flail in desperation to try and make SOMETHING stick against Empking -- even if it means arbitrarily tying me to him to give yourself a reason to call him scum again.

I'm not sure I actually believe you're scum; I think you are actually just this stupid as town, because I have

no clue

why scum would want Empking dead so badly.

You claim you've pressured me: what exactly have you pressured me on? Nothing. Voting me because of "gut" isn't pressuring -- maybe you should learn the basics of how to play mafia all over again.

PREVIEW EDIT: It's because I can't fucking stand you and think you're a [redacted], as you've continually proven over the course of both Psychic Mafia & Lost S5 Mafia. You're like Tarhalindur Lite, with a vagina.

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Let me ask the town this. That means Reck and Empking can't answer. If Reck were town, why would he feel the need to go to such extents to discredit me? I'm not a threat, I'm one vote. No one else is even looking at Reck, and the people who have posted apparently don't care to vote him. So why does he feel the need to destroy me as town?

this is such a fucking loaded question I can't wrap my mind around it

You ask a LOADED QUESTION that has consequences for myself, then tell me I'm not allowed to answer.

I'm "discrediting" you because I've seen you nearly derail a sure victory in Psychic Mafia, then I watched you fucking derp the ENTIRE way to letting scum win in Lost S5 (seriously some of the worst play I've ever seen), and I'll be damned if the same shit is going to happen here. You're terrible at this game, but the difference is that you're not vezokpiraka or DeityKabuto -- you know how to use a dictionary/vocabulary, and you know how to articulate well. It doesn't make your conclusions, scumhunting techniques, or thought processes ANY worse than those village idiots.

And, well, I'm not going to sit idly by and let you run this game off the rails again because you can't pull your head out of your own ass for five seconds to go, "Oh wait, maybe Empking isn't scum".

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No, a vote on "gut" isn't pressure. Once again, you're fucking retarded.

I ad hom when I play with fucking morons. Read my goddamned meta.

You're seriously a cu8NF;AH;FAHJS;DOFIJ;O8J3;OJAF;SDJ

okay I'm going to get modkilled I'm stepping away from this game. I want to call you so many things right now because it's how I really feel you ignorant piece of shit but I don't want to get modkilled so I'm outtie

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God you sound like a fucking Tarhalindur clone every time you speak. "I AM A FORCE TO BE UTILIZED! YOU WILL BE DESTROYED IN THE PROCESS!"

Jesus, get off your fucking high horse.

As for the whole gut thing, you're just asserting without anything to back that up except ad hom

is this even fucking english

If you'd like, you can tell me why you're town, and possibly even why Empking is town, if you're REALLY interested in turning this game around.

burden of proof, bitch
I'm not going to nitpick here and tell you why me & Empking are town when you haven't presented a single reason to me as to why I'm NOT
and your reasons for why Emp isn't were SHOT THE FUCK DOWN

You wanna iso me and bring a case?
bring it the fuck on

PREDIT: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

at least you're getting nuked

we need less faggotry in this game and more smart pplz plz

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Unvote

OH MY GOD I AM SO GLAD YOUR ASSHOLE IS ABOUT TO ENGULF A NUCLEAR WARHEAD

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Except the reasoning on Emp never was shot down. Would you like to show me where it was? All Emp has done is repeated questions and literally nothing else.

He refuted your arguments and you kept regurgitating old arguments that I felt were worthless and had already been addressed

I'm literally walking out of class in one minute so I don't have time to look all this shit up right now, then I'm going to be at the laundromat pretty much all night but I'll ABSOLUTELY take you up on this when I get home

@CSL: lol good riddance scum

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b) I'm actually just waiting for certain verbositeuses to smarten up and vote for Reckoner.

those are contradictory actions.

ur bein silly again mr. owl

What about Reck's play has struck you as town? The terrible null-case he made on NS? The way he's completely dismissing UK because she's using gut? The way he is saying that UK is not allowed to call him scum because she has no case and that the burden of proof is on her (bitch)?
Please inform me. Because afaict this is just your gut talking, and you've even admitted to me that your gut is terrible when it comes to Reck.

BURDEN
OF
MOTHERFUCKING
PROOF

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no seriously, are you just fucking retarded along with UK

townies don't have to prove their town; scumbags don't have to prove their town

others have to prove that townies/scumbags aren't town

this is mafia 101, how the fuck is this that complicated

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actually, dram is kinda committing one of his biggest scumtells I used to rely on...

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Then I guess the separation has fucked up your reading ability.

someone is aaaaaaaaaangsty

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That's fucking low

I really don't see how me calling you angsty is low, but OTAY

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UK, your tunneling on me is kinda endearing now <3

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OK, so, I just noticed something. Reck's page 16 scum reads.

Nikanor > Nobody Special > AGM > CSL > UK > esuriospiritus.

Bottom four are all on Empking wagon. The only one he DOESN'T want to lynch is Plum. NS is his easy target. Nikanor is...actually, I'm not sure I get that one yet. Nikanor's content is AWFUL though. Still...this feels REALLY weird.

Reck, did you seriously believe all the scum are on Empking's wagon? That they just piled on? Give me a concrete number. How many scum are on Empking's wagon?

No, I don't seriously believe that all the scum are on the Emp wagon. Two wouldn't surprise me, though, and it's a smaller pool to lynch from and there

has

to be scum on it.

Plum wasn't on the list because I still get odd townish vibes from her. My paranoia comes from the advice I gave her in POWERFUL WIZARD. Paraphrased:

"Reck, any tips on my scum game?"

"Well, I'd recommend not being cautious. Be aggressive, and don't be afraid to take risks and chances."

And she did. And we won that game as scum.

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UK, if you want me dead because you think I'm scum, why are you trying to negotiate with me

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Reck: do you have a top suspect? Do you actually think UK is scum?

TIL Locke Lamora didn't actually read the game because I've posted and quoted my reads in order of lynch preference THREE TIMES now and I'm not doing it again

#668 = me no likey.

Am I the only one?

Nope. It felt forced, fluffy, and lazy. Hey LL -- whenever you find my scumlist, put yourself somewhere in the top five.

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I do not get the vollkan reference, please explain.

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yes

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Dramtell = tunneltunneltunnel from the start on the same person until they're dead. He will literally continue pushing on the same person ALL THE WAY to LYLO if he's scum. Wouldn't surprise me for him to be scum here. Oh and Faraday REAL DAYKILLS PLEASE

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p. 30 D1
lolnope

can we end this please

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why

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Reck isn't going Point for Point. He's completely ignored UK's case, if you never noticed.

what case

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shamlessplug: go listen to mashups & mafia

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Oh wow I didn't see that.

I'll respond to it soon. On the radio/have a concert tonight.

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Vote: dramonic

for committing the dramscumtell of tunneling his ass off without a strong case.

This is dramscum. I think NS makes sense with that team, too.

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You're excluding any roles from a comodded game with me?

Cuz uh, I got one of our comodded game roles

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Faraday I'll be there, just tell me when

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I saw that.
You're cute.

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whoa when did Locke Lamora flip?

o.O

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My role is one of the following:

Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time:

Skull Kid, Bulletproof Area of Effect Magnet
Great Deku Tree, Tunnel-Visioned Devolving-Cop Modified Supersaint
Cojiro, Secret Cucco Caller aka Post-Powered Redirector Compulsive Vig
Biggoron, One-Shot Unlynchable Blind Inventor
Zelda/Sheik, Night Stalking Boss Daycop
Ruto, Sealed Water Sage aka Super Commuter Temporary Lovestriking Sage
Din, Goddess Mason Non-Water PGO
King Zora, Double Suicide-Combing Vanillaizer
Saria, Sealed Forest Sage aka Good-Natured Night-Skipping Purifying Sage
Navi, Hated Post-Restricted Poe Cop
King Dodongo, Miller Wagon-Centric Roleblocker-Voteblocker
Nabooru, Action-Immune Accumulative Ability-Thief Sage
Barinade, Miller Reflexive Non-Plant CPR Doc
Impa, Relexive Preemptive Long-Winded Roleblocking Sage
Nayru, Goddess Mason Action Immunizer
Farore, Goddess Mason Bus Driver
Link, Excessively Overeager Jack-of-all-Trades

Guys, Pt. 2 [adult] Mafia

:
Ythill, 1-shot masonizer-cop
Nobody Special, Jailkeeper
Cybele, Townie
Oman, Townie
Ythan, Townie
shaft.ed, Post-Restricted Bulletproof Townie
Exilon, Townie

Reckamonic's WoW Mafia

:
Lvl 85 Human Ret Pally, Profiling Jailkeeper
Lvl 85 Worgen Balance Druid, Unidentifiable Stalker
Lvl 85 Dwarf Survival Hunter, Strongman Watcher
Lvl 85 Human Prot Pally, Profiling Female Doc
Lvl 85 Worgen Assassination Rogue, Unidentifiable Progressive Voteblocker Vigilante
Lvl 85 Dwarf Marksmanship Hunter, Strongman Cycling Jack-of-all-Trades
Lvl 85 Worgen Shadow Priest, Unidentifiable Redirector
Lvl 85 Blood Elf Unholy Death Knight, Magic Aware Alliance Cop
Lvl 85 Blood Elf Frost Mage, Magic Aware Roleblocker
Lvl 85 Resto Shaman, Reflexive-Roleblocking Area of Effect Doctor
Lvl 85 Human Holy Priest, Profiling Horde Cop
Lvl 85 Blood Elf BM Hunter, Magic Aware Tracker

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#1) if I included all the scum roles from those games it would've taken me WAY longer
#2) all the scum roles from those games are faction-based: OoT had two different scum sects, each with abilities directly related to their faction. WoW mafia only had a cult and a SK. Granted, GP2 mafia had basic scum (and a lyncher) but...
#3) if I'm town, then clearly

I have one of those roles

, and it'd be pointless to list the scum roles
#4) if I'm scum, then why would you expect me to list scum roles? Which, you do think I'm scum, so you realistically shouldn't expect me to list the scum roles, and yet now you're trying to act all surprised that I didn't post it? Your words aren't congruent with your actions/thoughts

but sure, I'll humor you. I cannot be mafia from WoW since there's no mafia in that game. I cannot be mafia from OoT since the scumteam was two scumteams of two and the abilities were directly related to their scumteams (Boss mafia each had a different type of mafiakill they could use but they could only use one each cycle; Poe mafia had an action-multiplier mechanic related to one of the Poe sisters). So if I'm scum it'd have to be one of the scum from GP2:

[FURRY], Mafia Commuter, lynched D1
[DRAMONIC], Mafia Stalker, lynched/raped D2
[DTMASTER], Mafia Traitor, endgamed N2

Now if you wanna talk about third party, we can do that... but you think I'm scum, not third party, right? So you're not even realistically considering that possibility

lol parama

you know, at the risk of sounding OMGUSy, Parama has only ever tunneled on me this hard for

stupid fucking reasons

once before, and it was when he was scum
granted, I don't have the same scummy vibes from him here as I did in Atomic Mafia
but seriously... you're just being lazy at this point

[xRECKONERx]

Vote Katsuki

KATSUKI D1 WAGON IS TECH

VOTE: KATSUKI

FATE WOULD BE PROUD

[xRECKONERx]

okay reck and ns sitting in a scum QT

really? because you definitely said scum QT which means mafia, not third party
bazinga

[xRECKONERx]

hahahahahahahahah oh my god you are so bad at this
no wonder I've had to carry your ass through every town win we've shared together

[xRECKONERx]

@Reck: What about the Lost series?

Also,

Unvote, Vote Reck

Sorry, his defensive missile silos of ad hominem whenever anyone dares question him just frighten me so much D:

@Dram: Wait, where'd he say it was a Reckamonic game? Uh...in fact, wasn't there a thing that said that was NOT a thing that could happen unless you were playing *as* the hydra?

As for ooba's request, lemme see if I can find the posts where my roles are listed and link them directly. I think that should suffice, right?

you really are retarded aren't you?

Dram left out his comodded games, I challenged him because I received one from our comodded game
The rule said hydras could only receive hydra roles, but me/dram could receive solomod roles OR hydramod roles. lrn2read

[xRECKONERx]

WELP CLEARLY THIS FUCKING KATSUKI WAGON ISN'T GETTING OFF THE GROUND.

Vote: Nikano'

BACK TO OTHERSCUM

[xRECKONERx]

I said we need to end D1 ten fucking pages ago
let's lynch scum and move the fuck on

[xRECKONERx]

=========[] with no claim
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[xRECKONERx]

I AM DRUNK

[xRECKONERx]

ESURIO WAGON?
RECK IS NOT AMUSED

[xRECKONERx]

here's the thing
I don't think claims have as much weight in this game since anyone could just dig into their history and whip up whateverthefuck they wanted to
it's not like a regular game, where if someone claims something that doesn't quite match the flavor, it feels off
here, it could be literally anything from any one of their games, making their fakeclaim pool much greater

as such I'm not ready to buy Nikanor's JK claim quite yet

[xRECKONERx]

he was unconsciously trying to seem really likable and not lynchable without having to do much. Beyond that, he's been entirely unhelpful.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave you met Kats?

but seriously D1 KATSUKI WAGON GOGOGOGOGOGO

VOTE KATSUKI

[xRECKONERx]

THIS IS HAPPENING NOW?
WTF OKAY

VOTE NIKANO'

[xRECKONERx]

lol at saying I'm shifting at the slightest "gust of wind"

i think nik's scum, i said i dont believe the claim, old news broseph stalin

[xRECKONERx]

nik/zor scumteam CONF

[xRECKONERx]

...why nikanor? This feels like a very bad wagon. And I don't like how reck has shifted at the slightest gust of wind. seems unlike him.

...why are we wagoning my scumbuddy? This FEELS like a very bad wagon... I say it FEELS like one so I can be wishy washy and bus at the last minute if I need to. I'm going to chainsaw defend by casting suspicion back on Reck, who is an easy target because people already suspect him. In order to do that, I'm going to bring up bullshit in-game reasoning that he didn't suspect Nik, and throw in a quote about meta I don't really know or comprehend.

^ scum to town translation

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ACTUALLY

unvote; vote zoraster

That post works WITHOUT Nik being scum. "why are we wagoning this mislynch" and the wishywashyness is so he can JOIN the mislynch and then look back and go "I KNEW I HAD BAD FEELINZ ABOUT THIS WAGON VOTE RECK BOOM ANOTHER MISLYNCH"

Nik can have a night to "confirm" his ability

[xRECKONERx]

tldr

[xRECKONERx]

The point is you didn't say you were going to join a Nik lynch; you sat right off the lynch saying it "feels" weird, which sets you up perfectly to vote on it later and go "I've gotta bad feelin' about this..." and hammer or join the wagon or something. Then when Nik flips town you can go, "I knew the wagon felt weird!"

And how does me changing my vote relate to this situation? Like, at all?

zor really is scum. Booyakashaw

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"Get real, reck." -> "Stop calling me out on my bullshit."

"And your changing your vote is relevant because you've shown little interest in actually distinguishing between players beyond a general desire to lynch someone. And that doesn't really sound like town-reck to me." -> "But I'm basically just throwing shit your way, because I said you were projecting, and when asked how that relates to you throwing your vote around, I just ignored it."

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Say what you mean to say, Reck. I get your first point, but I don't get your second.

You said that I was projecting. Then you followed that up by pointing out I was throwing my vote around. I asked you how that relates at all, and you completely ignored the "projecting" bit and just talked about me throwing my vote around.

[xRECKONERx]

No.

You being wishy washy with your stance on Nikanor is not the same as me having several scumspects to choose from. Not even close.

[xRECKONERx]

No.

You being wishy washy with your stance on Nikanor is not the same as me having several scumspects to choose from. Not even close.

Who's town, Reck?

Faraday
AGM
UK
Empking

those are my strongest town reads, despite UK being derptown she's still town

[xRECKONERx]

I've also just become incredibly faint feeling and dizzy and non-lucid so I'm gonna try and relax for a bit

[xRECKONERx]

still here
still voting zor
still correct

[xRECKONERx]

Nominate Parama for most useless player ever

[xRECKONERx]

...why nikanor? This feels like a very bad wagon. And I don't like how reck has shifted at the slightest gust of wind. seems unlike him.

No, Faraday, this is still a scum post

[xRECKONERx]

Also that post was FAR FROM SOMETHING SCUM WOULDN'T DO

are you on your fucking meds again

[xRECKONERx]

Faraday are you just ignoring things I say about zor or what

[xRECKONERx]

16 players, right?

So for a SK to be in this setup, it'd have to be 4:1:11?

Which means it's 4:1:6 right now, so we need to be careful.

And yes, I'm assuming SK, because NO FUCKING WAY did a pro-town vig shoot either Faraday or AGM.

In other news, actiontime, Nikanor. Claim or die.

[xRECKONERx]

3 seems like very few for 13 against them.

This, which means we're in VERY dangerous territory if we don't lynch correctly today.

UK, what about my post suddenly made you change your mind?

FTR, UK is 99% town. Her play this game is erratic, and derptastic at times, but town.

[xRECKONERx]

If they're powerful scum, it's not such a stretch. Most of the mods in this game have made exceptionally powerful scum roles, right?

Even if they were crazy powerful, 3:1:13 isn't close to balanced for the scumteam, especially with TWO dayvigs, a limited tracker, and essentially a town rolethief, flipped so far (and I know there have to be more PRs out there for us).

Regardless, we need to lynch correctly today. If it is 4:1:11, that means an incorrect lynch today puts us at 4:1:5. Two non-cross-kills from scum & SK put us at 4:1:3 tomorrow, and that's a terrible situation to be in on Day 3.

[xRECKONERx]

Personally, I'm still planning on lynching Nikanor today. At least, I am planning on doing so unless his night action report is WHOA OMG SO AMAZING. Really should've been the lynch yesterday. And am I alone in disliking the utter lurkage from the ooba/LLD slot? Motherfuckers have done NOTHING all game. And there's probably a lurkerscum somewhere.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Nikanor

Nice try, scumbag. HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT I CAN DO, I CAN CONFIRM MYSELF TONIGHT. Oh look, a fucking complication, of course.

Lynch. It. With. Fire.

[xRECKONERx]

It's nice to know at least one of my reads from yesterday was right.

VOTE: Katsuki

Maybe so but this is a bad vote when Nik is confirmed scum.

If Nik flips a powerful scum role, then this is 100% esurio trying to reroute the wagon from a useful scum onto a useless scum (depending on Katsuki's flip, too).

Nik dies first. No questions asked.

C'mon, Parama.

[xRECKONERx]

this is nik

[xRECKONERx]

I wonder if you're bussing ONE or TWO scumbuddies with that list.

[xRECKONERx]

trickanor what happened to me bussing Reck? I mean yeah it's true I was but, but but he's SK now?

I'm glad you've seen the light

I'm obvSK, not your buddy, silly goose

[xRECKONERx]

It could be me, but it'd have to be the WoW SK, which is a double-kill bulletproof SK, which doesn't work in this setup.

[xRECKONERx]

lolnope.jpg

You're dying.

If you're actually Earthworm Jim, then after we lynch you, you'll come back anyway, right?

lol failclaim

[xRECKONERx]

LOL NIKANOR TRYING FOR KAT MISLYNCH
YOU OF ALL SHOULD KNOW BETTER
AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR YOUR POST CONSIDERING YOU'VE MET THIS ELUSIVE CUPCAKE IRL

VOTE: NIKANOR

For the record, I didn't realize I had hammered... :/

Also not SK, I've never used 3rd party roles before.

DAT BUS

[xRECKONERx]

Technically I won't die.

so why were you SO SCARED OF A LYNCH yesterday

[xRECKONERx]

B-B-B-B-B-BAM

Vote: LLD

[xRECKONERx]

WE'RE ON THE TRAIN TO LYNCHTOWN.
NO STOPPING.
NO GETTING OFF.

JUST FULL STEAM AHEAD LYNCHINZ

[xRECKONERx]

so NS is useless as ever.

Reck/UK scumteam, calling it now. Parama was trying to distance from Reck massively while UK and Reck fought but never got on eachother.

When I die, you can lynch either of them. I'll pull a fate here, 2v1.

Claim: Bodyguard

fail claim is fail
didn't even claim flavor/game of origin
setting up for epic WIFOM on TWO different players after she dies and flips scum (well ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE HER BUDDY RIGHT)

you can go ahead and die now
this wagon was secured before I even got online, saved me the work

[xRECKONERx]

I DIE. I FLIP TOWN. UK AND RECK EAT ROPE.

okay. deal.

now die please.

[xRECKONERx]

less talking, more lynching

[xRECKONERx]

@LLD: That's fine. You won't flip town.

this

[xRECKONERx]

Unvote LLD

Why the fuck do you think that was cool? Are you fucking brain dead? Do you want yet ANOTHER god damn day of half the playerlist lurking through a quicklynch and not being held accountable?

Jesus Christ, I can't tell if you're ludicrously dumb or ludicrously scum!

don't be a pussy
^ buddy #2 located

[xRECKONERx]

@Reck: Much as I hate to admit it, this is town LLD at her worst. Not that it'll matter. I'm half a mind to lynch her anyway as a liability to the town unless she gets her head unstuck from her ass. It's fairly firmly entrenched there.

no

You don't agree to a 1v1 then back the fuck down from it

[xRECKONERx]

actually you know what?

Vote: UK

you went all BIG N BAD agreeing to a 1v1 with LLD then turned around and pussed out because she voted herself
because you know she's gonna flip town?
yeah, I think so

UK lynch is now confirmed, full steam ahead

[xRECKONERx]

holy shit, preemptive much?

you have TWO votes on you and you're already anxious to claim

yup

LLD get back on this, I'm sorry I ever doubted you

[xRECKONERx]

KATSUKI GET IN HERE AND PUT YOUR VOTE ON UK.

[xRECKONERx]

you're both being defeatist as fuck and I refuse to believe you're both town

in fact it might've been a super clever 1v1 rouse to get town cred

all I fucking know is that one of you will die today. If we still have a vig out there, the other one should eat bullets tonight.

[xRECKONERx]

You think that UK and I are... SCUM TOGETHER?

i said it's possible, not that it was a definite
the way UK built up a 1v1 then backed the fuck down was scummy as shit

[xRECKONERx]

Can you explain why, Reck? Just curious, it's interesting examining your logic, because sometimes it's really spot on and other times it's really not.

can I explain why

what

[xRECKONERx]

You think that UK and I are... SCUM TOGETHER?

i said it's possible, not that it was a definite
the way UK built up a 1v1 then backed the fuck down was scummy as shit

Possible but how likely?

Likely enough to want Vig Shots directed?

You yourself are calling this a 1v1... and now you want BOTH PLAYERS in a 1v1 dead, even if one of them flip scum?

yes, because the behavior both of you have exhibited today have been absolutely scumtastic

when one of you flips scum, ill consider my stance on the other one

LLD seems less likely to be scum than UK, but she's still scummy

[xRECKONERx]

what.

how do I know your alignment or your actions.

It's scummy as shit because you were willing to go 1v1 with her, then all of a sudden did a complete 180 because LLD acted all defeatist and selfvoted, then you proceeded to act defeatist as well

[xRECKONERx]

How does an arbitrary 1v1 that ends up being pointless benefit scum?

Because it's an arbitrary 1v1 that ends up being pointless.

Also, if you're scum, then you can try to lynch elsewhere today, then turn around tomorrow and keep pushing LLD again for another mislynch (or final mislynch, idk the numbers right now).

[xRECKONERx]

hmmm

11 alive right

so now we're looking at

3:1:7

so we still have majority... but the lack of two kills last night is very interesting

[xRECKONERx]

Hmmmm. LLD, who did you bodyguard last night?

Can you link us to the role PM?

[xRECKONERx]

Hmmm yeah, so there's definitely a mafia kill missing. Derpin mcderp.

LLD being bodyguard kinda explains that.

[xRECKONERx]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 54&t=14102

So LLD is claiming the bodyguard type that dies in place of her victim

so no that doesn't explain the lack of nightkill

PREDIT: oh look, UK is OMGUSing again now that I'm suspecting her
fucking die scum

[xRECKONERx]

"Reck is scum now that he's voting me"

"oh hey even though I think you're scum let me vaguely softclaim some of my abilities"

^ does not come from town

PREDIT: my suspicions are far from careless. I have my town reads, everything else is just PoE

i can literally list every reason for suspecting you and LLD, it's not careless

in fact, the reason you say it's careless is because...you know your own role and alignment
fucking
seriously.

[xRECKONERx]

1: oh my god you did not just use WIFOM to fucking say you're actions were pro-town. Seriously. Just as an example, let's look at POWERFUL WIZARD which just ended in a clean scum sweep because I faked a guilty on Fate and EVERYBODY was like "oh shit well scum obv wouldn't do that because it'd draw attention to themselves". I can point to countless other examples where ballsy moves (like Goofbash Invitational that just ended, where Faraday & I won as scum by fakeclaiming VENGEFUL FUCKING TOWNIE) won the game or ended up paying off for scum, and you're not dumb enough (at least I don't think) to actually not know this, so why are you playing stupid?

2: I tried to end D1 multiple times. So don't sit here and go RECK IS SCUM BECAUSE D1 WAS LONG because that argument is eleven kinds of bullshit at once.

3: I didn't even read that post. I saw LLD's bullshit, realized she had basically done nothing and joined the wagon. She was obvscum in my eyes so why would I give a fuck if people check in or not anyway, it's not my style...which you supposedly know SOOO WELLLLL so why is this shocking to you

4: yep so that's not even going to improve things one way or the other, so I'll just ignore the claim. So you can't be targeted, but you could also be an untargetable roleblocker. great, why did you claim again? also note that essentially makes you SUPER UNCONFIRMABLE and fucking dangerous... ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A ROLEBLOCKER THAT CAN'T BE NK'D, INVESTIGATED, OR TRACKED, OR ANYTHING

dear god

[xRECKONERx]

It's a catch 22. Maybe you shouldn't make 1v1 deals if you can't take the fucking heat.

[xRECKONERx]

Well, no, I think it's more that a townie considers all the facts constantly and isn't afraid to revise her opinion. My defeatism isn't because of leaving the "1 v. 1". It's because I honestly stopped caring about this game after Day 1. It's agitating to know the only way I'll get out of this hell is getting lynched.

then replace out of the fucking game if you're not going to play it correctly.

this isn't a matter of your alignment, this is a matter of your worth as a player. If you're going to be defeatist, that's playing against your win condition, and you should stop it.

Townie revising opinion looks very similar to scum backtracking, FYI

so you're revising your entire opinion on LLD due to a self-vote? When she wasn't in hammer range?

I would point to Goofbash Invitational, where Faraday & I selfvoted D1 as scum and got town sympathy points, but you're not going to listen, because you really don't have a reason why LLD is town all of a sudden.

[xRECKONERx]

See that kind of offering-a-1v1 stuff is the kind of shit people

never

expect scum to do... but it's exactly what I would do/have done as scum, so it's hard for me to see it as this shining beacon of townieness.

I don't know about LLD, she's improved a lot and was pretty good when I played with her as scum in dram's Touhou game, so I know she isn't stupid.

game's in my wiki if you really care

[xRECKONERx]

Here's the thing.

If you and LLD are both town... that means there are three scum & a Serial Killer out of:
1. Plum
3. Nobody Special
11. Empking
13. esuriospiritus
15. dramonic

I still have a vaguely town read on Plum (I think she tends to be more lighthearted/jokey as scum), which would mean that NS, Empking, esuriospiritus, and dramonic are all scum of some sort, and I'm

not

seeing that scumteam.

[xRECKONERx]

Nicki Minaj is Nikanor's returned form or some shit, right

[xRECKONERx]

@NS: That's why I'm confused too. I'm guessing Andrius just didn't update the first post.

Mod, is the first post correct?

@UK: I have a good reason for excluding Katsuki.

[xRECKONERx]

wut dram. Do you think I stopped the kill?

[xRECKONERx]

UK, what makes you think you'd be a nightkill choice for scum?

[xRECKONERx]

You should probably claim if you are in some way responsible for Parama's death.

[xRECKONERx]

I could be responsible. If someone tried to kill me it got redirected to Parama. I'm pretty sure Reck would be against shooting me as scum, which is why I think he's town. His winrate as scum when he brings me to endgame is pretty high <_<;

how about you go ahead and claim your role

Plum, you shouldn't be voting Katsuki.

[xRECKONERx]

He's not. He's saying that he's some kind of role that redirected kills from himself onto Parama and that I wouldn't try to kill him. (Which, is true, but also WIFOM... however, you can check my games and see that I have not once, ever, in history, shot dram as scum).

[xRECKONERx]

Is there any reason to not vote Katsuki? Like, cop innocent?

yes

[xRECKONERx]

LE NOPE.

Not fullclaiming yet since nobody else fucking is, but yes, I have proof Kats is 100% confirmed town

[xRECKONERx]

I fullclaimed, Reck! Even in my claimpost!

That said, I do not really trust any proof Reck has. I also don't think him scum with this proof would be indicative of Kats' alignment either way.

With what I'm about to claim, it'd be pretty suicidal for me to do this as scum.

[xRECKONERx]

esurio hasn't checked in yet and dram hasn't fullclaimed

[xRECKONERx]

I'm not claiming

dick

until dramonic and/or esurio get in here. Seriously, the fuck is dram?

[xRECKONERx]

sick, for the most part.
I'm an innocent man from tarot mafia, with lovers and hanged man as my cards.
I used hanged man to make kills aimed at me hit parama.
I still have lovers, which either makes two player die together or be protected together, depending on how i wanna use it.

wait. this isn't how Tarot Mafia worked.

You choose

one

of the two to use, unless I'm fucking retarded. I got to choose which way I wanted to play the card, and the way I played the card determined my ability. I don't remember having two abilities in that game.

Disclaimer: I'm full retard right now due to 10 beers, 5 rum shots, and 2 screwdrivers. I could be remembering wrong and I'M WAYYY TOOOOO LAZYYEY to go check.k

[xRECKONERx]

Mod: prod esurio with a fucking ten foot iron pole

[xRECKONERx]

I highly doubt anybody tried to shoot dram... seriously, what kind of threat is he?

No offense, but he's basically active lurking and isn't really doing much in the way of scumhunting. If he's town, I see no reason why either SK or scum would try to shoot him, unless they have some kind of rolecop out on him.

Anyway, I don't

have

to wait on esurio to claim, but I'd like her to get the fuck in here and give us some thoughts.

BTW, she's probably my #1 pick for a SK at this point. I can't see her play tying her to anybody else in a scum-like fashion, but it fits a SK.

[xRECKONERx]

Huh?

[xRECKONERx]

oh, cock, forgot about that.
Let me go check.

[xRECKONERx]

Only the Arcana remains perpetually unswayed. The humans are inherently lead to destroy themselves in attempts of change, for themselves or others who'll destroy them back.

MacavityLock, You are an Innocent Man, touched by The Hanged Man and The Lovers

-You can vote and post
-You can at anytime consume the power of one of your tarot arcane. Once used, a card burns, so choose how you'll play your cards wisely

The Hanged Man
-PM me the name of a player. If that player is due to die, you die in his steed
-PM me the name of a player. If you are due to die, that player dies in your steed

The Lovers
-PM me the name of two players. If one player is killed, the other dies too
-PM me the name of two players. If one player is protected, the other is too


You win when the mafia is defeated

Alright, so I'm stupid, ignore me. The claim checks out. There was also a mechanic in that game where the mod would announce when cards have been played, but I guess that doesn't carry over, exactly. So the claim is fine.

[xRECKONERx]

I have no fucking clue... dram's games are usually insanity, so I'd assume that you'll find a redirection role SOMEWHERE.

[xRECKONERx]

esurio, I've claimed knowledge of Katsuki's innocence.

[xRECKONERx]

Oh sorry.

I'm Ythill, one-shot masonizer-cop from Guys Pt 2 [adult] Mafia.

I tried to masonize UK N1 and was told my action failed and I still had my one-shot, so I was probably blocked.
N2, I used it on Katsuki, and it went through. Meaning she isn't scum.

So votes off of her now please, kthx

[xRECKONERx]

Also I tried to use it on UK because she was all up my ass D1, then I got blocked, and I figured it'd be better to figure out Kats's alignment since I've been wrong about her alignment in recent games and I obviously can't read her

[xRECKONERx]

oh pretend I said "him" instead of "her" all those times

[xRECKONERx]

Oh wait, I just saw that UK is untargetable... okay so maybe I wasn't roleblocked.

In any case, while esurio getting disabled or whatever makes her not look like scum, I'm still skeptical that she's not SK.

LLD -- you should randomly protect either me or Katsuki overnight. Flip a coin.

LOL U LIEK MAH WIFOM

If we get targeted and LLD is actually BG and actually protects correctly, that removes that suspect. And if she's lying, we'll figure that out sooner or later.

OH WAIT I just realized dram can protect too. HMMMM.

I'm feeling we should just massclaim and get it over with due to how many claims we have out in the open. Dram, who else is confirmed town besides me and Katsuki?

[xRECKONERx]

Empking's hop onto UK looks town. It's how I get genuinely frustrated with idiots and end up OMGUSing them, but it's an honest OMGUS. And come on UK -- you know OMGUS isn't really a scumtell, so stop going OH LOOK IT'S OMGUS like that's scummy or something.

unvote; Vote: esuriospiritus

[xRECKONERx]

The philosophy behind OMGUS remains essentially the same.

[xRECKONERx]

@Reck: Yeah, I know, I'm just frustrated with how god damn dense Empking is being, and how fucking dense YOU'RE being. Do you have a better reason for voting esurio than Empking?

Yes, I do.

esurio's play has been legitimately scummy. And the way she has disappeared after putting her votes on my mason buddy screams even scummier. You have to understand -- from my perspective, anyone attacking Katsuki looks very scummy, only because I know she's town.

Empking's responses to your attacks seem to be frustrated townie, not opportunistic scum.

Nikanor is being fucking stupid. He has been the entire game. OH YEAH GUYS RECK AND KATSUKI ARE STILL SCUM WHO ARE FAKECLAIMING MASONS WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM BOTH DOWN AND WOULD BE PURELY SUICIDAL TO DO ON DAY THREE WITH SO MUCH OF THE GAME LEFT TO GO AND A SERIAL KILLER FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE.

Nikanor may be confirmed town, but I'm still ignoring him for the remainder of the game since he can't pull his head out of his ass long enough to do anything useful.

BTW, UK, you're still suspect to me. When it comes down to it, PoE leaves a certain range of people alive that could be scum, and you're one of them.

[xRECKONERx]

1. Plum
3. Nobody Special
4. Lady Lambdadelta
6. xReckonerx
9. UncertainKitten
11. Empking
12. Nikanor
13. esuriospiritus
15. dramonic
16. Katsuki
17. Nicki Minaj

A couple of things: I'm still not understanding why Nikanor occupies TWO SLOTS on the list. That isn't how he explained his role.

Mod, is the living list correct?

I know I'm town, I know Katsuki is town, and I know Nik's two slots are town (or is it one slot? IDFK). Which leaves me with:

NS
LLD
UK
Empking
esurio
dramonic

Our Serial Killer and the rest of our mafia are in this group somewhere. This is pretty easy -- if there are three scum left, and a SK, that means 4/6 of these people are scum. This is pretty simple now. If you believe my claim, then you believe Katsuki's town. So from your perspective, UK, you should really be willing to lynch ANY of these people, since odds are we'll be hitting scum. In fact, if you're town, then looking at this list, there's probably only ONE other townperson on it. So why are you pushing so hard for Empking?

dramonic seems fairly town due to the Parama kill... however, something is bugging me about his claim. Why the fuck would mafia/SK try to kill dramonic? And where the fuck is the other kill?

Empking is the only one on the list I have a vaguely town read on, but to be completely fucking honest, if it comes down to it I'll lynch him. Mafia are in a hard spot here: I'm town, Katsuki is town, and Nikanor is town. They need Nikanor to help push me and Katsuki, so they can't kill him. However, if they kill me or Katsuki, then the other one is confirmed town and they can't get a mislynch on the other.

Heheheheh. This game is as good as over.

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11 alive. One scum dead. So probably 3:1:7.

Lynches will not happen on me, Katsuki, or Nikanorx2. Which leaves 3 possibly mislynches for scum.

...oh wait, I forgot to include Plum in my list above. Goddammit.

Okay, so there are 3 mislynches for scum. They can't get me or Katsuki lynched without Nik since they need +1 town to get a majority. They also can't get Nikanor lynched since he doesn't, to my knowledge, have a duplicating-reviving-scum-role in the books.

...wait, now I'm confusing myself with numbers.

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Plum
NS
LLD
UK
Empking
esurio
dramonic

Okay, let's keep it simple. 3 of these are scum. 1 is a SK. 3 are town. I'd rather hit scum today than a SK, because SK could potentially hit scum for us overnight, and scum could potentially take out the SK as well.

This game isn't in autowin territory yet. If we hit scum today, it becomes autowin territory. Actually, if we hit SK today, it becomes autowin too, because it takes out the threat of a second nightkill hitting a townie. But it's kinda hard to SK-hunt with scum still alive.

The most obvious choice would be esuriospiritus. While her OMG I WAS SILENCED thing COULD have been a scum gambit... it's also far more likely she's not scum, which would make her a SK.

PREDIT: Yeah, exactly. EsurioSK makes a lot of sense. I think hitting SK today has more benefits than hitting scum since we remove a full nightkill from the rotation.

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I say the next time anyone posts, claim. If you don't, you're signing your own death warrant.

I'm going to go check on who could be SK.

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Okay, esurio 100% could be a SK. I was in Mass Effect Mafia, where there WAS a Serial Killer.

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Plum needs to provide us with a list of games.

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NS cannot be SK.

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ooba/LLD has two possible SK roles.

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Unless Open games don't count?

I would imagine Open Games don't really count.

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Everyone so far has flipped a themed role. I'd expect that's where they all came from. Throwing in a SK from an Open Game would be boring.

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UK, do you have any Serial Killer roles? Can you put them here?

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Yu-Law (One)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_%28film%29

You were once a member of the organization policing interdimensional travel (via detecting wormhole openings, which can be predicted like the weather). During one mission, you realized that killing other time travelers gives you more power. You now seek to hunt down and kill all time travelers in this alternate universes to absorb a common life force that connects them all. Due to your sadistic nature, you also feel like killing all their allies.

Abilities:

SK-Kill (Night)

Each night, you may target a player. If successful, he\she will be killed. Your kill signature is “brutually murdered”.

Prior (Innate)

In the previous universe, you killed a lot of powerful costumed crime-fighters. You have absorbed all their life forces - Hence you start the game with 2 Life counters.

Absorb Life Force (Triggered)

Trigger:

You killing a player of "Class: Time-Traveller"
You gain a life counter.

Unstoppable (Triggered)

Trigger:

Gaining 7 life counters
You win the game. You are removed from the game.

Super-Human (Triggered | One-shot)

Trigger:

Night Kill-attempt on you
If a night-kill is about to resolve successfully on you (i.e no roleblocks or protects), you expend 2 life counters to counter the kill. If you do not have the counters to expend, you die.

Energy Blast (Night | One-shot)

You have to spend one life counter to use this ability. This ability does not count for the "Only one night ability can be used every night" rule. Target a player; if successful, all their night actions will fail.

Attack (Day | One-shot)

Once in the game, you may day-kill a player. You may do this by either sending me a PM with the subject

Kill: Player

(or) posting

Kill: Player

in the thread.

False claim:

Any character from “Watchmen” (Graphic Novel\Movie).

Win Condition:

You win when you are the last player alive or nothing else can prevent the same. (or) The "Unstoppable" ability resolves.

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Most of NS' modding history is opens. I don't think that's an invalid pool at all. NS has actually run no themed games.

@Reck: The only two serial killer roles I have were the Void Owner in Poof! Mafia, which wins when 4 players are removed from the game, and the kill is an RFG kill, and the Serial Medical Administrator who has various powers but is mostly an insane doc. Both roles are linked earlier in the game if you check my ISO, but if you insist I will relink for a third time.

And is that your SK role, Reck?

Fair enough.

You're not SK. And I could post my SK roles from my games, but it's useless now. I've claimed masons with Katsuki, so we're either town or scum. No SK possible. Unless Kats comes in here and says LOL RECK IS LYING, in which case I'll slap him in the taint.

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Kats claims last, duh.

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Empking can be a SK. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 55&t=12037