Weather Mafia II (GAME OVER)

[Thestatusquo]

I don't think that its fishing if he genuinely thinks that theres a cop claiming a guilty. However a "X is scum: vote X." post upon first entering the game reads more like a "I am sad I missed the random stage of the game so I am going to be unhelpful." sort of thing rather than a cop claim. I could see how he could interpret it that way though.

So I am feeling, I think, understandably, lost. I just read these 5 pages and I need to do a reread at some point of the last day to get me back in the groove of the game. I've never had a game interrupted like that before, and it's going to take some mental sorting out I think. Sorry if I'm a little disjointed for the nonce until I get my head screwed on straight.

[Thestatusquo]

Guys, this is so stupid, and is exactly what I was hoping wouldn't happen. We're spending pages and pages talking about who could be blue scum and who could be red scum and spending ZERO TIME TALKING ABOUT WHO IS SCUM.

What is wrong with you people?

[Thestatusquo]

Still on my hunger games high. Probably do a serious reread and actually try to rehabilitate myself to this game tomorrow.

But I just wanted to say this:

Far be it from me to try to tussle with DGB and her scum hunting methods, because we'll get into a huge fight and neither of us will have any idea what is going on at the end of it, but since when is REPLACEMENT an indication of anything? I would be shocked if scum were more likely to replace than town, simply because there are more town players than scum players in total.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I think the reason we're not lynching UN is that his total activity level is not something I would expect from scum. Sure, scum can fake activity, they can be very active. But he seems to be actively bringing attention to himself. I just don't see many scum motivations for that. Also, since amrun is far from being in the townie column of my book, I'm pretty sure I'm not gunna just take her word on it.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I think the reason we're not lynching UN is that his total activity level is not something I would expect from scum. Sure, scum can fake activity, they can be very active. But he seems to be actively bringing attention to himself. I just don't see many scum motivations for that. Also, since amrun is far from being in the townie column of my book, I'm pretty sure I'm not gunna just take her word on it.

i was scum in red dead redemption mafia, i had over 300 posts. and i was only alive for two days. junpei was one of my partners and he had well over 200 himself

some of us just post like madmen, regardless of alignment. and having seen uber as town before, i can say that constant posting is definitely part of his playstyle

btw, off-topic, but the hunger games movie was fucking awesome

I'll take that meta under advisement.

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I put almost zero faith in scum slips. I have seen more town players strung up for them then scum players, by a wide margin. You wanna convince me on UN you'll have to do better than that.

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No, kondi, and I think thats pretty much a bizarre interpretation of what I said. Little faith in scum slips means I don't think saying the word they instead of I is indicative of alignment. Sometimes people just typo. Psychology as a whole is not progressed to the point where we can concretely explain how something like that happens, but it seems pretty weird to use a freudian interpretation that has been discredited in mainstream psychology for like 30 years.

In short: I do not think that someone saying something that could be perceived as coming from a scum perspective (they instead of I, not including oneself in the town) is any more likely to come from a scum player not paying attention as it is from a town player not paying attention. I think empirical evidence bares me out on this one as well. Like I have said, I have seen many more townies strung up for this kind of psycho babble hogwash than I have seen scum players.

Insofar as its really the only concrete charge I have seen leveled at UN, other than the fact that he is an annoying fuck, I am inclined to believe that it is more likely at least partially scum led taking advantage of some very easily manipulated townies, and I will place my votes accordingly.

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TSQ, what of his actions concerning bbm?

Please refresh me.

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What makes you think that makes him more likely to be scum refusing to vote a buddy than town with a gut read?

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I can respect that reasoning but surely you can understand why that isnt convincing to me personally.

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it's not just the scumslip

he didn't want to get on the BBM wagon
he didn't seem to know what his own role was
as he himself pointed out, he modified his behavior specifically when asked (i would say to draw less attention)
when questioned, his only defense was "scum fear me and town hate me"
he has been more than willing to call people basically confirmed towb
he said me vs. Fate was town vs. Town: this and the above are common scum tactics resulting in the fact that they can't paint everyone as scum

none of this is concrete evidence by itself, but put together, you don't even need the scumslip to see he is scum

I'm about to start the ass end of my fourth double shift in six days but in the meantime THE MOTHERFUCKING PROSECUTION RESTS

How is any of this more likely to come from a scum player than a town player?

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TSQ, do I really need to explain why scum would be likely to avoid bussing, to keep alower profile, to forget thwir own fakeclaim, to arbitrarily assign town reads, and to minimize the case against him?

I mean, your argument about llhow likely it is, could apply to most any case, but when added up: it shows a furthering of an anti town agenda

I think we've had this exact argument in another game. I am not arguing that there are not possible scum motivations for his actions, I am rather arguing that I don't necessarily see how those scum motivations are any more likely than possible town motivations.

[Thestatusquo]

unvote, vote kuribo

[Thestatusquo]

The issue, kuribo, is that all of the case is him derping. Sure, scum can derp, but so can town. Unless you present me with a) arguments why his specific derps are more likely to come from town or scum or b) arguments as to why UN is more likely to derp as scum than town, all you have done is proved he derped, which is not very convincing to me.

And you're ignoring facts and posts in order to push this awful wagon made up of (mostly) suspicious people. It really screams like "scum trying his damndest get that last vote."

[Thestatusquo]

The burden of proof, in my eyes, is on the person explaining why I should for someone, not the other way around.

On the previous post,

a) Didn't you already bet and lose your left nut on something in this game?
b) Barring some sort of special mechanics, scum do not know who the other scum are in multiball.

[Thestatusquo]

*should vote

[Thestatusquo]

No, once again you're misrepresenting me. I see plenty of reasons scum would do the things that UN has done. I also see plenty of reasons town would as well. Hell, this exact post I'm making has tons of both town and scum motivations possible for it. PROBABILITY is important.'

And no, when I say that a wagon has suspicious people on it, that is only one of two things I mean. The first is much more straightforward, I mean exactly what I say. I do not like the people on X wagon. The second is true, but I think you have the causation backwards. When I see a bunch of people attacking someone who I have scum/unhelpful/bad players reads on, it makes me much less likely to want to be on that wagon, for sure. Especially if all they can do is tell me a bunch of things a person has done that most likely they have done hundreds of times as town.

PEDIT: Yes. He didn't refute your case. Sure, but this isn't a debate. If I find your case to be unconvincing in the first place, frankly I don't give a damn what he says in response to it, barring a scumclaim or something.

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Kuribo, I am reasonably sure I could go through like, any of your town games that have been completed and find examples of almost any of the things you are attacking him here for.

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I don't know why you think his sig refers to his work...I think it's more likely to be a hobby.

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I refuse to believe that. I choose to believe that he breaks into the houses of old people and begins washing them.

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I refuse to believe that. I choose to believe that he breaks into the houses of old people and begins washing them.

well shit, is that why you PM'd me your home address?

Jokes on you, I have an apartment.

[Thestatusquo]

On friday I shall sit down with a nice cup of coffee, my laptop, and tierces excellent cache, and then we shall see what we shall see. Be on your toes, scumbaggos.

[Thestatusquo]

Not for nothing, unless you think I was force bussing bbmolla...

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Amrun, you do realize, of course, that your argument is entirely wifom. If you're justifying something by saying "I just dont see X doing something as scum." you are, right there, creating the powerful motivation for scum players to do exactly what you are claiming they wouldn't do. Plus there is added motivation because they get to get townie points for doing something that is already in their interests in defending a buddy. Please think about what you're arguing here.

[Thestatusquo]

NO. My life has gotten hectic unexpectedly.

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^Thats the problem Staeg. I dont think you've done anything memorable. Even now at L-1 instead of giving reads or trying to illustrate why your town, all I'm getting is this blasé attitude.

There's nothing screaming that I want you around. And with noone else glaring, there's no reason not to see you hang, and see what tomorrow brings.

fwiw this is a horrible attitude to have not on day 1.

[Thestatusquo]

vote amrun

[Thestatusquo]

That sounds like total BS to meeeeeee

[Thestatusquo]

Kuribo.... is exactly right.

I don't think I've ever heard this said before...

On a serious note, does anyone have a good handle on fate this game? I find him consistently hard to read and this OMG PUSH PUSH PUSH thing seems consistent with him both town and scum. Anyone have any insight?

[Thestatusquo]

Kuribo.... is exactly right.

I don't think I've ever heard this said before...

On a serious note, does anyone have a good handle on fate this game? I find him consistently hard to read and this OMG PUSH PUSH PUSH thing seems consistent with him both town and scum. Anyone have any insight?

By the way, the promises that you'll catch up are getting a little stale. This is akin to a prod dodge.


My top three are

kuribo

,

Porochaz

, and

TSQ

.

The prod dodges are getting really old from TSQ and I've seen him posting about how he "usually" focuses in too much detail when he plays... Is that because he's "usually" town?

He was also too sure on D1 that it was multiscum.

He is very unlikely to be bluescum, though.

Um, I worked a 10 hour shift today AND had 2 interviews. My life is like this. But, here are the problems with what you just said:

1) I am not prod dodging. I have absolutely not reread the thread yet, you are correct in that claim, but I think I am pretty clearly posting content and contributing DESPITE that fact. My posts are not prod dodges. My posts are opinions on cases in the thread, votes, and calling for discussion on a player I am having difficult time reading. It is a humungous stretch to attempt to boil my posting down to "stale prod dodging."

2) Your second point is just bad. Like, I AM focusing on detail in this game. You make no argument whatsoever that says I am not. (maybe because its simply not true, considering the fact that I was one of the most active posters in this game before crash...Unless you are claiming that somehow magically the crash switched my alignment? Yeah, you're dumb,) then you follow up this bold faced incorrect assertion by making a completely unmasked, unsubstantiated, and idiotic claim about my meta which you do not know. If you're going to make a meta argument about me, feel free to do so, but to say "lol, I mean...He totally COULD do this as scum...idk YOU BE THE JUDGE!" is just completely bizarre.

3) I was not sure at all that it was multi scum. You are blatantly misrepresenting my posts and taking them out of context. My argument was two fold. First of all, I was concerned that players were assuming that we had one scum group, and posted to remind them not to make decisions and votes based off of reck interaction because multiball was not something that can be ruled out. Second, I argued that several factors, Recks role and the "organic" which we now know to not be indicative of alignment, pointed to the probability of multiball. Sure, you can twist this to say I was "sure" but really its just simply not true.

4) I find it HILARIOUS that you all of a sudden, without mentioning me like...I think ever previous as a suspect, include me in your list of top three lynch targets RIGHT after I voted you. If I was so suspicious to you previously then why did you wait to voice these suspicions until right now. Seriously, have you said my name more than like 4 times total this whole game before this post? It fits though, the only reason you think fate might be scum is because he is suspicious of you? You RIGHT OUT admit that you are full of OMGUS right after you blatantly defend wifom reasoning as "it's just the way I feel." Yeah, just the way to get an easy lynch most likely.

You are such fucking scum. Please die already.

Confirm vote: Amrun

[Thestatusquo]

Hey guys, lets lynch unhelpful manipulative amrun scum instead of unhelpful clueless staeg town.

[Thestatusquo]

1) No you didn't. Don't lie. I don't believe for a SECOND you forgot I was voting you.

2) No, you're an idiot. Go read day 1. I am in like the top 10 active players and have commented on literally everything that has happened. Every lynch. Every major wagon. It's verifiable. Why the FUCK are you making incorrect claims when you can just check to see if they're true? What the fuck is wrong with you?

3) My site flakes were due to a) My father dying and b) my laptop being stolen. no, seriously FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU. What the FUCK is wrong with you?

4) I am not skating, Ignore my argument (fuck you) if you want. I am posting plenty of relevent stances TODAY even. Like, I posted about yesterdays lynch. HELL, I was one of the only people VOCIFEROUSLY TRYING TO GET UN NOT LYNCHED. (fuck you) WHILE YOU WERE ON THE RAH RAH RAH LYNCH UN PARADE. (fuck you)

5) How the FUCK does me posting how I usually play independent of alignment (which is the statement you're referring to, oh yeah, forgot that part didn't you fuck face?) have ANYTHING TO DO with my town and scum meta? The self professed meta was how I play in general........ You are conveniently ignoring that fact to say it means I'm scum? GO READ ANY OF MY SCUM GAMES YOU LAZY FUCK. Hell, HALF OF THE PLAYERS IN THIS GAME WILL TELL YOU MY PLAY IN MUPPET MAFIA WAS DETAIL ORIENTED AND ACTIVE AS SCUM. You also still haven't responded to the fact that my play differentiated at the point of the crash, when I lost track of the thread. I mean, you can totally SAY that it didn't, but that's clearly not true. Just because you have shitty memory does not make me scum.

6) I have made several stances TODAY. I have made a stance on Staeg, I have made a stance on you. I was the most vocal against the UN lynch. I was the most vocal FOR the BBMolla lynch. Like, you're just so fucking clearly wrong that it hurts.

[Thestatusquo]

Fuck you.

[Thestatusquo]

There are few buttons more volatile to push on me than claiming that I am a fucking flaker because I left the site when my father died. That is one of the lowest of the low blows.

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my arguments against her are completely valid, not influenced by the past exchange. Edit the fuck yous out of my posts if you must, but you cant defeat the points I raised. Amrun is still scum, and this was true BEFORE she invented a case against me out of thin air, posted about my father because she "knew it would piss me off," and then grinned and said "awwww shucks, I'm sorry!"

[Thestatusquo]

stepping away from this game to cool down tonight. I think it is only fair to let the game know that I am considering requesting replacement. I have a hard time playing with someone who uses tactics like the one amrun just did. I will not decide right now, but I will think about it tomorrow when I am calmer.

[Thestatusquo]

hey guys, amrun is scum.

[Thestatusquo]

If Staeg was scum, wouldn't he have been hammered right now?

Please explain this. I don't understand why he would be more likely to be hammered as scum when compared to town here?

[Thestatusquo]

vote amrun

Will make an in depth case sometime today.

[Thestatusquo]

is benmage claiming JoaT?

He already vigged. I'd need more about his claim to straight up believe him.

[Thestatusquo]

I kind of disagree, considering the fact that we've already had a cop claim and its fucking day four.

[Thestatusquo]

So we've had both abilities that benmage has claimed are in his joat used already...

[Thestatusquo]

no.

[Thestatusquo]

I think I have been fairly consistent all fucking game that I don't think its worthwhile to break players down by blue/red. I will tell you who I think is town and scum, though.

[Thestatusquo]

I think we have two scum left:

Porochaz
Shadoweh (replaces farside22 D1)
Amrun
Fate (replaces SaintKerrigan D1)
kuribo
Benmage

I think they're in this group of people.

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If you had to pick one, am I red, or blue?

Did you not read what I JUST fucking said?

I don't necessarily think either of them are scum, though I would be inclined to say yosarian.

I am inclined to vote for fate here, but I want to evaluate your claim. I haven't discounted the possibility that either you're a day killing scum playing a gambit or a scum player with a JoaT type role. (the latter of which still makes fate scum.)

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to be honest, I was forgetting about the role, but again, I don't think such a role is necessarily town aligned. I can think of plenty of scum uses for your role in multiball, not the least of which is confirming yourself. Maybe I'm wifoming myself because as a mod I like giving normally town aligned roles to scum to fuck with meta.

[Thestatusquo]

I think you're discounting (conveniently?) the possibility of some third party role.

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I mean, regardless, fate is pretty clearly the play here, but I'm reasonably sure that I want to get the most value out of this day, which includes the town knowing as much about you as possible.

PS, the post you just quoted was referring to fate.

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erm, not fate, kuribo.

[Thestatusquo]

You're just going to ignore the call for you to reveal your role? You don't think thats valuable information to evaluate you and your play and also fate?

[Thestatusquo]

Fate, you also should full claim.

[Thestatusquo]

For real, if a full claim is not in your next post, fate, my vote will be on you. This OMGRAGE is not productive if you're town. If benmage is gambiting, like it or not, you owe it to the town to try to defend yourself as best you can.

Of course, the most likely scenario is that hes not and you're scum, bro.

[Thestatusquo]

Vote: Fate

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thats l-2

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Oh, typo. 2 and 3 are so close to each other. I type too fast.

[Thestatusquo]

Wait no, I typed it out.

Apparently I'm just dumb.

[Thestatusquo]

I have no problem with that list.

[Thestatusquo]

Especially since I am reasonably convinced amrun is scum, and it looks pretty certain fate is scum. That just leaves the third as a wildcard.

[Thestatusquo]

Sigh. How was I dragged kicking and screaming? I asked him for a claim, he didn't give one, I voted him. That doesnt sound like kicking and screaming to me. I don't trust benmage. I don't know if you've ever seen him play before, but he's a bizarre player. I dont discount any of the following: Him gambiting as third party, him being scum with this role, him just doing this for the fuck of it when he's just a one shot day vig. That's why I want his full claim. but if he's not going to give it, he's not going to give it, and we would be foolish to not lynch fate today. Fate wasn't a scum read of mine before today, he was a null read that I was having difficulty with, if you read back to my comments from yesterday where I specifically asked for input on him.

I think I've already explained why I think "slip tells" which you're accusing me of in your last post are bullshit. But if you'd like to pursue that line of discussion we can have a really fun non productive argument about it tomorrow instead of lynching obv amrunscum.

[Thestatusquo]

kuribo, if you'll notice, I only made one reference to mafia theory. You claim you hate it, and then it was the only part of my post you responded to.......

[Thestatusquo]

I think amruns claim to "not have a plan." is pretty bizarre given that she has said repeatedly that she does esoteric things for small reasons. (i.e. her interactions with yos day 1, her "trying to get me riled up to read me better." Then the transition to switching to a "super secret plan." is even weirder.

Amrun is really not reading right.

[Thestatusquo]

tierce, wtf.

Please explain.

[Thestatusquo]

He didn't slip... he was rolecaught...

vote: amrun

Diesuckdie.

[Thestatusquo]

happy with my amrun vote.

[Thestatusquo]

And I think the number one thing I would do as last scum right now is try to take control of the town with an obfustication campaign like you're embarking on right now to hide the fact that you have been on town all game, have pushed wagons on easy town lynches, have defended scum players, and generally haven't been anything but a net minus for the town.

[Thestatusquo]

you can't just shove that record away by saying "look, I'm clearly not red or blue scum... Get your head in the game, lol."

Lol, indeed.

[Thestatusquo]

In fact, why don't we just mass claim right now. I'm pretty sure I know one of the reasons we have no kill.

[Thestatusquo]

Why the FUCK should the town let you stipulate who claims where, especially since you're almost certainly scum.

We obviously popcorn it, with benmage as the most towny among us, going first and choosing who goes second.

[Thestatusquo]

No, we popcorn it or we lynch the shit out of you. If you had role based info you wouldn't have gone through that song and dance with tierce.

[Thestatusquo]

And I have role based info on you, but you don't see me trying to escape the way massclaim ALWAYS WORKS.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm miffed still about amrun getting to dictate where she claims, but if that's the will of the town it's the will of the town. :-/

It's just a stupid will of the town.

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amrun, you do realize we've had both organic and non organic scum, right? Within the same scumgroup, even. Why the hell was it imperative that poro claim before you? What would you have done to "catch him"

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psyduck, variable powered unnightkillable. Based on the weather I can either be completely unnightkillable, completely nightkillable, or unnightkillable by certain people. I'd rather keep which types which secret for obvious reasons, but I'll claim it if enough people want me to.

Last night I chose amrun as being unable to target me. I like my vote.

DGB.

[Thestatusquo]

what is confusing you?

[Thestatusquo]

What else explains the no kills? We should have 2, we have 0, and no claims that explain them...

[Thestatusquo]

Well, you didn't let dgb claim, so we should let happen. Amrun or poro. Down for either.

[Thestatusquo]

there is literally no reason to end this day before DGB claims. None. We're not even close to a deadline. The day just started ffs. Calm down.

[Thestatusquo]

If Poro doesn't flip GF, its set as a 1v1 between Amrun and TSQ.

And this is just not true.

[Thestatusquo]

Getting really weird vibes from tierce. It's like she's reading the game but its not sinking in to her, and then she's over thinking everything to the nth degree. This happened yesterday too. I don't know that it is alignment indicative at all, but gosh she's playing very strangely.

[Thestatusquo]

ITT: Shadoweh reveals he is kim dotcom...

Seriously, though, hope everything works out for you.

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Um. The darkness? Is that some sort of character I've never heard of? Role name doesn't seem to fit with any of the others, if it isn't. How sure are we on cops sanity? Could be weather dependent, we don't know. Furthermore, don't like the claim, though I suppose its testable in a round a bout way.

Poro is clearly the play today but I want to look into dgb a little more in depth tomorrow as well as amrun, for obvious reasons.

vote: poro

[Thestatusquo]

Well, obviously I am still alive.

[Thestatusquo]

Post I was trying to make right before glork locked the thread for last night.

pardon me, but it looks to me like you just made up a random name that went along with the flavor of the role you were fake claiming, didn't realize the rest of the flavor in the game was characters, perhaps because you're 47, then googled what you had claimed to come up with some plausible explanation of why the flavor made sense.

FWIW, its not that plausible. Why would your role name be a whole anime? Doesn't make any sense at all with the flavor of the game.

I'm pretty serious when I say I don't necessarily trust singers sanity without more to go off of, and I really think DGBs claim is fake. Like, convinced of it.

[Thestatusquo]

Vote: DGB

That probably won't be moving.

[Thestatusquo]

Are not all the other roles revealed characters? That's so fucking random...

[Thestatusquo]

Lol, dgb, you're so predictably bad at mafia sometimes.

[Thestatusquo]

No, you didn't like me attacking you. You had not even so much as mentioned me before that. Also, I ad hom all the time. If you think that's indicative of my alignment then you're crazy.

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Also, "scum struggling to explain their continued survival." typically use their fake claims as an aggressive attack on another player in the game when the town is in a position of strength?

That's a hell of a gambit you're accusing me of, DGB.

Speaking of which, now that people have convinced me I'm wrong on flavor, back to

Vote: Amrun

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Oh, though, you probably didn't even realize you were accusing me of a gambit since you're not even reading the game, are you? Yeah, we're going to take YOU seriously.

[Thestatusquo]

I am not ignoring your question. I am ignoring it because it is stupid. I a) see no reason to discuss even if I had a target or not, and b) don't feel like giving the scum more information about when I can and cannot be night killed.

Feel free to keep frothing at the mouth over there, it's cool.

[Thestatusquo]

Should say "I did not miss your question." as the first sentence. Humblest apologies.

[Thestatusquo]

Guys, we had two claimed ways why we had no kill. One was lynched, and was town. the other way not.

Can we lynch the only possible reason we had no kill last night?

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There is definitely a scum roleblocker; kuribo was blocked n1.

My point is that even if we accept that as scum, I would kill TSQ on Night 5 (which isn't true, but is wifom, so whatever), why would I then DO IT AGAIN, knowing that tsq can protect himself from kills? It's the dumbest theory.

The lack of NK is a mystery, obviously, but this theory does not make sense.

If I get lynched for this, I will understand, but I'm not going to go quietly into that good night when I'm town AND there's a bunch of evidence that shows it. It's against my wincon.

And then you promptly tried to fish more information out of my role to determine when and how I could be killed.

Hmmm...

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Amrun. Please replace out of the game. I recall a very similar incident occurring in vanillaside mafia, and I would not appreciate it reoccurring. I am not kidding here. You have used out of game stuff strategically in game before. Please do us all a favor and don't drag this game through the muck by using out of game stuff like a crutch like you did in that game.

[Thestatusquo]

Alright, we'll get into it. In vanillaside you claimed to deliberately milk your family situation to gain sympathy and stay alive in the game. I don't care if you think it's hypocrisy, or if it was the lowest point in your life, when a player makes a claim like that, I sit up and pay attention. You used an out of game event to change the events of the game. This isn't what I said, this is what you said in that post game. When, at the end game of a game where are rightfully many eyes on you because you're suspicious as hell (despite your claims that this is not true) you think a post about family members shouldn't raise red flags in my mind that you might try to do the same in this game? I didn't attack you. I feel sympathy for your situation, and I am deeply sorry for your loss, but given your history, how the hell is me asking if the best course of action might be for you to replace out unreasonable?

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And I will grant you that and also stop talking about it, with a final statement that its on my radar and I won't let it change any of my actions to you, and if I do think it is changing towns actions I WILL call you out on it.

Is that acceptable?

[Thestatusquo]

Good luck getting a response!

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Guys, did you see how quickly amrun was willing to jump onto a wagon on perhaps the MOST LIKELY TO BE TOWN PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE GAME and then again jumped immediately off of it when it lost momentum.

How the fuck is amrun still alive.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm reading the rest of the game just fine, thanks, but right now I need to get you lynched in order to win, since you're scum. So I'm devoting my attention to it. Plus, you're making it really obvious if only everyone else would sit up and pay attention.

[Thestatusquo]

You're asking me to reread 50 pages on my day off? I'll think about it, but the most obvious reason is that she got a scum role PM

[Thestatusquo]

DGB and Ben, Why is TSQ scum?

TSQ, why is Amrun scum?

I'm a hider, I find it hard to believe that TSQ is BP. Sounds more like a scum claim to me.

TSQ is after Amrun because she looks like the easiest lynch.

I'm not bullet proof, I am a role that is sometimes bullet proof and sometimes not able to be killed by certain people based on weather. Also, if you're basing this attack off of the fact that there wouldn't be a BP and a JoaT with BP in the game then you might want to check and see we have a confirmed vig a confirmed rb and a JoaT with these as claimed abilities.

but oh yeah, you're not reading the thread, so you wouldn't know that.

[Thestatusquo]

I already claimed my role name...

And yes, this is something I already pointed out. I was the person who pushed for the mass claim because I wanted to claim my information on amrun. Given the fact that I would probably be lynched if I were wrong about amrun in that situation, the move makes almost zero sense from a scum perspective, but DGB of course doesn't realize that because DGB is not fucking reading the thread, so she'll just tunnel on me.

Lazy piece of shit. Just replace out of the fucking game already.

[Thestatusquo]

Now that the thing with the role claim has been cleared away, I am reasonably sure there is literally no reason to believe DGB to even possibly be scum, and I'm kind of suspicious of you for suggesting it. What are you getting at?

[Thestatusquo]

Shes cop confirmed.

[Thestatusquo]

amrun, did you even read what she said? Tierce was not attacking PoE, she was attacking the fact that people are bandying it about seemingly at random. for benmage to think I'm scum through PoE he would have to be claiming that he thinks that everyone else in the game is town, pretty much, or at least that there is a group of people that he is sure is town. He hasn't done that either. The closest we get to confirmed is dgb and benmage himself. I don't see where he can say that any of the others are certainly town.

Same goes for you. You claim to be using PoE, and yet you have voted for I think 3-4 different people today, so clearly PoE is not actually what you're doing, you're just throwing it around to justify your lack of actual reads.

[Thestatusquo]

nope, pretty sure you also voted either benmage or DGB, not sure I remember which. Also tierce. Also shadoweh.

[Thestatusquo]

DGB continues to tunnel on me, despite the fact that literally every argument she has made as to why I might be scum has been shown to be complete crap. But again, she's not reading the game. What a fun time we're all having here...

[Thestatusquo]

I'm here, busy. Will post tomorrow.

[Thestatusquo]

Vote: Amrun

by the way.

Y'all have let her skate by the whole game doing ridiculously scummy things. Blatantly lynching town left and right, and now people are looking at me when I have pushed cases on scum players all game. Doesn't make sense to me. The two players who are attacking me are the worst player in the game (benmage) and a player who is not even really reading the game (dgb) and the other player who is voting me (amrun) has expressed multiple times she thinks I'm town. Go ahead and vote for that, but you're effing retarded if you do. There has still been zero reason or analysis presented to say I'm scum, just dgb not reading the game and saying random shit, and benmage saying "PoE" without even PoEing everyone else.

Shrug. Amrun is clearly scum here. I have been saying it for days, and no one wants to listen because this town has decided it would rather listen to the same retards who are pushing for my lynch right now who have lynched town player after town player.