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[Staeg]

Uhhh hi I'm up to page 19 included currently and am wondering how trollie still draws breath

Will finish reading up, have some questions but they might already be answered in the pages

Will also fill in the google doc in a sec

[Staeg]

Okay so caught up. Most of what I have is here

Trollie pretty damn scum - the implosion in-thread is most of the reasoning. DRK's and mos's points don't apply - for one, it could be easily faked, and for two, it happened twice - the second time after people corrected him in-threads multiple times.
Hito slight-scum - the trollie unvote and lack of an explanation. Where'd that wall that Fate promised go?
DV slight-scum - gut
Has the Matt-trollie hangout actually happened?

vote: trollie

[Staeg]

MattP: I dont understand how him mixing them up is a towntell >.<
MattP: And it shows you're not reading the thread because I posted those logs inthread days ago
MattP: >.>
DRK: i probably stopped reading things you were posting b/c it became pointless very fast and was clogging the thread



Don't flatter yourself. I don't think many people voting Trollie are doing so primarily because of your word for it.

I was fine with Trollie's first time confusing NY and sicilian because it was in a post made about a minute and a half after his previous post while he was all riled up. Type one wrong mafia, automatically type the other one wrong, oops! In the new log, he doesn't even seem to feel rushed and apparently mixed them up a second time? Yeah....not so sure I can believe that. If he has a role PM saying "NY Mafia" that says his group has a kill, I don't believe he would mess this up twice. If he has a role PM saying "Sicilian Mafia" that says his group does not have a kill, same deal, I don't see him messing it up twice.

This post came after July 27, though. I assume that the convo DRK quoted also came after J27.

Amrun, what happened to you talking to esurio about reck's expressions and stuff? I might have missed it.

[Staeg]

I got timelines mixed up.

[Staeg]

and also post a better case on Amrun because she's scummier than [insert comparison here].

The what now

[Staeg]

Uhh, if they had no QT they would just make some other form of communication, so this doesn't change anything at all...?

[Staeg]

By the by, I could easily see this game having a higher-than-average amount of scums due to the mechanic.

[Staeg]

Guys, guys
distractions from trollie

Don't let them happen

[Staeg]

I have to admit, pie made this thread just that much better

I'm sorry for not contacting people for a bit - I can't use voicechat because my mic keeps going full derp when I don't want it to (should be fixed in 2-3 days), but I'll do stuff this evening.

[Staeg]

Still prefer trollie wagon but ehh, it ain't going through

unvote
Vote: MoS

[Staeg]

Nacho I may or may not actually make a 100% list of people I intended to talk to (this is partially my fault for being a derp but)
I'm trying to do things at turbo-speed but some people are not online for me to talk to them

[Staeg]

InflatablePie - town. Really sincere push on amrun and when I read what he types it's oozing gut-town.

Nachomamma8 - town as fuck in case I can actually read him, otherwise am being played like a violin.

Fate - town or close enough that it makes no matter.

DeathRowKitty - the first player that contacted me; he's a fairly enigmatic personality and doesn't afraid of anything. I'd put him in the town column, but if he's scum, he's probably sicilian.

hitogoroshi - after he explained his trollie-vote-and-woosh, I have a fairly reasonable townread on him mainly from the way he's writing things and other stuff (he said words and town is basically what this is).

MattP - town, I suppose? I've seen and known matt to be like this, but I've only seen him as town and am not aware of his capability of faking it as scum.

Nobody Special - talked to him today; he explained that his amrun vote in 564 was actually simple sheeping and that his "she knows why" is a common expression he uses in RVS-ish stages of the game... but this was not RVS. The whole event looks shady as fuck... yet I can't help but give him townpoints for it

Lady Lambdadelta - haven't contacted nor will I want to do that, she's probtown for in-thread catfight-and-not posts.

esuriospiritus - haven't talked to; leaning town from in-thread posts

xReckonerx - never been able to read this guy. Relying on others' reads on him to declare town for now, but as GI said at some point, that's actually alignment-null.

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Nuwen - reasonably sure that if she's scum we'll find out sooner or later (not that I'd trust myself to see nuwen-scum even if she'd already flipped several times over, but anyway)

DeasVail - have not managed to contact to any great use (this is my fault entirely).

Espeonage - haven't contacted (only just now had I realized that I hadn't yet added him on skype so uhh).

Grimmjow - am waiting for him to become available for talkings.

Amrun - lots and lots of conflicting thoughts here. She's contradicting herself here and there and everywhere, she's mixing everything up with everything else, but she's sounding genuine... null, I guess.

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BBMolla TeChNoWC GreyICE - Techno gave me a scumread for his 1 actual in-game post, but it's incomplete - I still need to contact BBmolla.

kdowns - talked to him today; asked him for his reads and recent activity, focused on his hito read which was initially scum before his exchange, scum after his exchange, asked a bit more, he re-read the conversation he had with hito, it turned out that hito's actually a townread. He did so in a fairly clumsy fashion. Scumread.

Agar - haven't contacted; scum from in-thread posts.

Mastermind of Sin - leaning-scum for the "I don't need to have a read on these people since they don't want to talk with me" to "I can't contact these people!" contradiction, also very many goodpeople are saying that he's scum so sheeping as well.

TheTrollie - well, scum. Pretty much what others have said already: matt comes in, calls him scum, he goes "YOU SHOULDNT LISTEN TO HIM AHHH," contradicts himself several times over and I haven't seen him since.


It's sorted from towniest to scummiest. I know that it's still less that ideal, but ugh timezones

[Staeg]

DeathRowKitty - the first player that contacted me; he's a fairly enigmatic personality and doesn't afraid of anything. I'd put him in the town column, but if he's scum, he's probably sicilian.

Mind expanding on this?

It kinda meshes with the whole enigmatic thingy... it's not that he's not looking for scum, it's the way that he approaches and talks about things and how I'd imagine sicilian scum to do it.
In other words, I see town motivation and Sscum motivation for the stuff he says, not NYscum.

[Staeg]

Oh so the deadline's in ~2 days. Well then.

[Staeg]

How can you not care what my read on Fate is when your whole post was trying to point out that it didn't make sense for me to ha e a scumread on him and react the way I have?

The two of those have nothing to do with eachother...?

[Staeg]

I still want trollie dead way more than I'd ever want amrun dead, but I'm kinda trying to decide if amrun's scum

[Staeg]

unvote
vote: trollie

[Staeg]

basically said he hadn't caught up on the thread and etc

What?

[Staeg]

Nope. I'm 100% sure that I didn't say anything to that matter - I've been 100% caught up with the thread since the initial 1-day-replacement phase thingy.

[Staeg]

NS told me 1 on 1 Amrun was his biggest scumread on august 2nd.

Yeah the dude's probably scum - on aug 4, he told me that amrun was only him sheeping grimm.

[Staeg]

I don't even know what to say...this kinda flips my plans for tonight on end... :/

Heh heh
You better have a nice bit of confirmable stuff come the morrow

[Staeg]

Something about kdowns and fucking

[Staeg]

vote: hito

[Staeg]

Mos, you're funny

[Staeg]

mod: if a lynch is reached before 12 hours have passed, do any PRs that haven't received their results receive them then?

[Staeg]

unvote

temporarily
(and to have this written somewhere: this vote is entirely sheeping)

[Staeg]

Put that back.

NOT UNTIL 12 HOURS HAVE PASSED

[Staeg]

if hito's lynched and the answer to my modquestion is "no" wrath will ensue

[Staeg]

Why don't all mods do that? Why doesn't zor do this in all games of his?

[Staeg]

If you want to break 1 rule why not break 2?

NO I WONT I WANT MOS'S BLOOD

[Staeg]

and then to respond that way to LLD's sicilian claim as sicilian

...

can you run that by me again please

Amrun, you missed this one, and I'm legitimately curious

[Staeg]

vote: kdowns

[Staeg]

Uh, alright. I still don't understand what happened with the hitoshrug but okay.

[Staeg]

That makes no fucking sense at all
It takes me less time to google "select sup son" and copy paste the first thing than it'd take me to open a QT and scroll down

[Staeg]

No, I mean, I get that part, but what?

[Staeg]

the idea was that the only way agar would've been able to post the hitoshrug that quickly when Nuwen asked him to was copy/pasting, and hito's iso in this game didn't contain any, therefore he most likely copy/pasted it from a QT

I still don't understand this and when I looked for nuwen yesterday she told me to read the thread and uh

[Staeg]

The gist of it was that when I've used the emote before, I've copy/pasted it from a hito post. When Nuwen asked AGar to quickdraw it, he was able to copy/paste it really quick. The reasoning he gave Nuwen was really weird, too... first he was like "yeah it's a SelecT thing" and then he said something about it being a Korean symbol, when it wasn't.

Ah, I see.

[Staeg]

Yeah alright...?

[Staeg]

Except i'm confirmed town, so try again nuwen scum. Any other low-hanging fruit you want to pick?

...?

[Staeg]

mod: is the VC correct? In particular, the amount of votes on me and DRK.

[Staeg]

Not sure if necessary but

vote: no lynch

[Staeg]

Yeah okay

I mean, if any of you feel like saying anything other than vote: staeg, that'd be cool, but don't strain yourselves too much

[Staeg]

How long have people suspected you? How many people have you contacted with questions?

I asked pie what this was about when he was /away on skype, haven't heard from him since. MoS contacted me and uh. That's the extent of stuff I've done out of thread, but again: why do I have to ask out-of-thread if I clearly stated in-thread that I have no clue why I'm being voted so I'd like reasons?

How long have people suspected you? How many people have you contacted with questions?

This. It's not like, you know, you've responded when I contacted you outside the thread, Staeg.

You've contacted me out of thread? You mean, that one time when I was watching IPL or whatwasit?

[Staeg]

And...? Does that mean that the thread should be used solely for votes?

[Staeg]

VT.

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I know that you guys would be expecting some kind of reads list or somesuch, but you're not getting one.
I still have my townread on nacho and Fate's townread on nuwen (I guess theres mos with PR shenanigans but you sort that one out), and that's about it. I'm not even sure about pie anymore; his misrep of our conversation doesn't have any apparent town motivation and the subject has just disappeared.

Oh, and once I do die, I will still want those reasons posted overnight tyvm

[Staeg]

I was already hammered, but ok

[Staeg]

Yeah if you say so

[Staeg]

Okay, checking in to say that I was useless and totally got carried to victory by

Matt's

Fate's

Town's superior play.

As I said before: 4:1:16 was what I'd expect in a normal setup. This needed a slightly higher amount of scum (namely, 1 more sicilian).

What I wanted to commentate on was hito's last video: not that my vote would have changed much (it didn't matter anyway), but halfway through the video I was convinced that you're town. But then you went on and on and on about the exact same thing... the video should have been shorter.