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someone invite me to this google thing.-
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I am drunk as shit, you guys
reck is town and I think pie is town, I am not really sure about grimmm but reck seems to think grimm is town so idk
also I won'dt joke about that cuz someone might take that seriously ang modkill HOLY FUCK I'M SO DRUNK WHY AM I TYPING THINGS-
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I am awake and able to be contacted. On skype and LoL atm, or you can PM me.
can you explain this change of thought process a little more (either in the thread or just to me, don't care)?
Bitmap, I would also like to talk to you 1v1 if possible, sooner rather than later.-
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DUN DUN DUN
I would like to see him post what he's been up to in here, fo sho. Haven't talked to him at all though unless he was lurking in the google chat at the same time I was and I didn't notice.-
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Oh and on that note, I dont' think google hangout is going to work for me in the future... it lagged my laptop HARD. but skype is fine.-
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Why would you need to be nervous if you're town, though?-
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No, I'm thinking you should probably explain.
If someone knows you well, then if you're town you should berelievedthat he knows you well and should therefore easily be able to tell your alignment. If you're scum and he knows you well, you have every reason to be nervous.
VOTE: Trollie unless you can sufficiently explain to me why that's not the case.-
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welp.
Fate and Nuwen are really hard to talk to <_< I can confirm that Nuwen was most talkative concerning theory and the mindset scum would have vs the mindset town would have more than anything else. Reads weren't really shared.
I've read over the Trollie thing and he just seems to be digging himself into a deeper hole. I still like my vote there.
I have more things I might want to say before we're all drunk off our asses again, but I want to talk to reck/iPie first...-
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yeah, prats are pretty cool
Matt, why don't you have anything to say about the developing heat on Nuwen?-
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uh what that's a lot of bananas <_<-
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Quote from multiple people in the ScumHaus -- "Pretty damn trustworthy."
also grimm has been talking to plenty of people in the game -- there's me, fate, nuwen, pie, and reck all here and all in the game.-
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idk. I'm not a fan of it either but Reck is the towniest town that ever towned so if he says grimm is town I'm trusting that read for now.-
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Played face to face mafia with the whole group earlier, he was giving shit away with his face.-
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I'm saying he has facial quirks that make him easier to read, even in a very short game.-
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lmfao, reck is gonna have yo put himself and greyice on his 1v1 show isn't he
also alcohol is funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn and pie is town if I didn't mention that alreadfy-
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I hate you for reminding me that that cat in the hat thing is a thing-
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So I just realized something looking at the vote count -- I'm voting with neither of my strongest town reads andwithat least one scum read and a shitton of nulls.
VOTE: Nuwen
So this is happening.-
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Because you're just full of good ideas, ICE?-
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yeah uh whoops, we all just reminded him of that just now-
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...that was supposed to be a :x, not a angry motherfucking emoticon-
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To be fair, the only reason I have any read on Grimm at all is because Reck is the towniest town that ever towned and he has a town read on Grimm.
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That was his LoL name actually, which was otherwise public in the LoL thread, zoraster.-
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I'm gonna beV/LAfor like a day or so starting sometime tonight.
Pro: I'll be on a traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain, fuck yeah
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go iso the mod, mos.good man.
I'm back from my v/la technically but I intend to chillax and mostly do other things until I've had some sleep/food. I need to sleep on a few thoughts anyway.-
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When an atheist liberal bisexual poly feminist chick actually agrees with something the bible says, itmustbe true.
but no seriously, this shit is only going to be a distraction from the game. LLD, if you can't post without raging (or posting things that make others rage), it would be pro-town of you to replace out. I'm not trying to pick on you (*cough*like certain others here*cough*) but this swirl of nastiness is all revolving aroundyouright now and I'd like it to stop one way or another.-
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In post 623, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 620, InflatablePie wrote:In post 603, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Just once I'd like to come back to this thread and not have to read Reckoner's antagonistic shit.
Just once I'd like to come back to this thread and not have to -
you know what, too easy, nvm.
p-edit: sigh.
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over Reck's-
You know what, too easy, nvm.
Not so fast. The petty bullshit had stopped, at least for the time being, until you posted this and got shit rolling again. AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE STARTED POSTED ANTAGONIZING SHIT AT YOU GEE I WONDER WHY
I mean it's not like it'sallyour fault but jesus fucking christ, you're blind if you don't see your own part in this drama.-
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LLD, can you be reached via skype? You're not on the contact sheet. -_--
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Also.
Amrun: like some of the people who all of a sudden came out with scumreads on me
Amrun: were like
Amrun: sharing confidences with me
Amrun: and shit
Amrun: it makes no sense to me
Amrun, can you specify who these people are so I can independently verify that either this is actually the case or you're full blown AtE-ing ALL THE THINGS? If you can provide quotes, all the better. Doesn't have to be in thread -- I am on skype and LoL right now.-
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yeah ok nuwen
Amrun: mattp is the BIGGEST one
Amrun: ns did, a little, but not as bad
Amrun: mattp is STILL doing it, like he said i was scum in thread while skyping me about other game related things and he didn't metnion it at all, when he knew i hadn't read the thread yet
Amrun: and he's like, idk, treating me like an ally, talking to me about trollie
Amrun: then i go on the thread and he supposedly suspects me
(@Zoraster: Not sure if that line in the middle is supposed to count as one line or two by your rules, but it was one line the way it was typed out even though it's long enough that it rolls into the 2nd line, soooooooo yeah. Clarify pls? If someone sends me a whole paragraph in one single IM, does that count as one line or 3-5?)
I have not verified the above with NS and/or MattP yet; if they could contact me at their earliest convenience that would be great.-
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Does it HAVE to be gchat? that lags the shit out of my computer. Would much prefer skype.-
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We could always do Chat Roulette and keep hitting <new person> till we get another scummer-
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it wouldn't solve the problem of multicamming, but it'd be funny-
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LLD, would it kill you to post something fucking relevant to the game?-
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don't you even fucking try that shit lld, there is MORE THAN ONE way to contact me and you haven't tried to contact me, either even though I asked you if I could talk to you SPECIFICALLY on skype. You haven't even madethatmuch effort.
Post your reads publicly please if you've been doing "so much work" outside the thread and try to not do it in a way that makes it look like you're just running around insulting everyone that cuz as soon as I see something like that it just makes me want to skip your entire fucking post and go stab myself in the eyes.-
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I...
... I can't believe I'm agreeing with Scumwen.
VOTE: Amrun
(yes, he is)-
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also hito, I should probably wait until amrun flips to mention this but your "hold your read at near-null for as long as possible" thing worked
that 1v1 call smaaaaaaaaaaaacked me in the face with amrunscum holy shit-
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but you weren't asking him, you were asking other people about him <.<-
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And here I was, thinking that if even -I- could see it, it must be blatantly obvious to everyone else...
esurio: SHE JUST SAID HE WAS WISHY WASHY
AND THEN SHE SAID HE WASNT
in the personal convo
am I imagining that?
Grimm: No, I heard it-
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I am voting either LLD or Amrun today. LLD is being INTENTIONALLY USELESS AS SHIT and doing nothing but clogging up the thread with personal attacks and snide remarks, and Amrun is scum. At this point I'm okay with Nuwenscum being sorted out later; once Amrun flips it should be easier for more people to sort her out.
PEDIT: you shouldn't really need to think about it that hard if you're telling the truth...?
regarding pie being "far up his tunnel", I know there's been at least one person telling him when he's being outright confirmation biased about something. After viewing the 1v1 I am confident that this is not one of those things.-
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Reck -- you could watch the stream and record the stream, then edit that? COPYCEPTION-
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good luck with that, I've been trying to get that to happen for ages now-
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Woah now, "confirmed" is a bit strong of a word for what Pie was talking about, and if Pie weren't at work atm I'm sure he'd probably tell you the same thing.
I have talked to LLD a little bit; I would like to talk to her more in depth but it's slow going atm.
I'd like to talk to anyone I haven't talked to 1v1 sometime before the day is out -- if I'm awake, I'm on skype. Contact me there or through lol, or failing that you can always PM or email me.-
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GODDAMNIT KDOWNS, THAT'S MY SMILEY-
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yes, yes he did. and you don't have to use voice chat, I've been IMing via skype without voice chat quite a lot actually.
I need to post more content-y things in thread and not just out of the thread I guess, but my brain has been rather confuzzled and ...preoccupied for out of game reasons the last few days(shut up, scumhaus). I'll do a more extensive post about my reads that I haven't already detailed in thread tomorrow after I've slept.-
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oh btw brock I would like to talk to you 1v1 again sometime soon, in addition to anyone else I haven't talked to yet.-
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Hmm, I have the same amount of townreads on the MoS wagon as I do on the Amrun wagon (more -- but weaker -- townreads on the mos wagon if I'm not counting myself )
I've been saying for a while now, via private channels anyway, that I think we need a flip. If MoS ends up being the lynch and flips town I'm going to be looking very carefully at anyone who was avoiding/jumped off the Amrun wagon for this, but right now he's actually kind of null to me and, in my mind, there's a possibility they might be different!scum.
I really have a hard time understanding how anyone could NOT be voting amrun though, at least out of the people who watched the 1v1 stream. That was pretty incriminating.
I'm going to do that post about my reads in a sec, here... I just woke up not too long ago.-
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k, so, read time. Anyone I've yet to talk to 1v1 is in red -- CONTACT ME, YOU LURKY SCUMFUCKS. I am better at townhunting, but hopefully I'll have a better idea who's scum after a few flips.
TOWN:
esurio- oh hey, that's me! :3
InflatablePie- I am basically considering him my mason buddy at this point. Talked to him more about the game than I have anyone else at this point and I will eat a bucket full of hats if I am wrong on this read.
MattP- Pretty damn obvtown, both in thread and 1v1. Was also obviously impassioned in the hangout and truly believed everything he was saying. (I am assuming no one on MS is a professional actor. <_______<). Would not blindly sheep his reads, however.
DRK- Shifty motherfucker. Town anyway. Alignment does not guarantee usefulness, however. (sorry frog, you know I <3 you)
LEANING TOWN (NULL-TOWN):
Grimmjow- Honestly I would probably bump him up into my town category, but I want to talk to him a little more first. (Contact me, you lurkerfuck.)
Nachomamma8- This read is partially from the thread, but mostly from when I talked to him 1v1. He seems like he has a very good handle on the game and is asking the right questions -- I just wish he was a little more active.
Reck- I really want to say I still think he's the obviest(shut up that's totally a word)town that ever towned. There's a lot of reasons I still have to think that, some of which I can't share publicly. This pains me to say, but he's in my null-town category anyway because of a few little things that are bugging me (mostly stuff Grimm's brought up with a bit from Pie). If he doesn't have the abridged Amrun/Pie 1v1 up by the time this game day ends and Amrun later flips scum, I'd probably have to bump him down further, but I'm assuming the technical difficulties are genuine for now.
Fate- Will probably never actually trust him enough to bump him higher than this, but haven't seen any reason to suspect him, either and seems town.
- Very weak gut-town read. Still needs to talk to me 1v1.DeasVail
- Very weak gut-town read. Still needs to talk to me 1v1.hitogoroshi
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- Don't get why people are calling this guy town. I was in that hangout and couldn't get a good read on him at all other than how he seemed nervous as fuck which isn't really a tell on its own. Pretty sure I'm gonna need to talk to this guy 1v1 if I ever want to get a read on him.Trollie
- I spoke to Bitmap, his predecessor, fairly early on in the game and had a weak town read on him at the time. I haven't talked to Staeg at all and if he's posted anything it sure as hell wasn't worthy of remembering.Staeg
kdowns- I talked to him a little at one point, but I didn't get much out of it. Actually remember his presence in the thread though, and can't say I've found anything he's done scummy.
- Surprise! This read only changed today after talking to Fate. It might change again after I comb through her posts more thoroughly and/or talk to her 1v1.Nuwen
- Couldn't get a read on this guy from the hangouts. Something about the nature of the hangouts I think has a worse signal:noise ratio to me -- I have a hard time focusing during them and they've kind of been a waste of time for me read-wise. My inability to focus doesn't really directly have to do with MoS, but it has been the only way I've interacted with him thus far. On his own in a vacuum, I have zero read on him whatsover. Any read I have on this guy is indirect... a.) I am kind of concerned for the results of the wagon given that a bunch of people seem to have a strong read on someone I don't have a read on directly... it doesn't bode well to me. b.) There's also the issue that Amrun seemed to be trying to call out MoS with a bullshit case, flubbed it up in the 1v1 and made it obvious how bullshit it was, AND EVERYONE IS JUMPING ON MOS INSTEAD OF AMRUN WTF. ARE YOU GUYS DUMB. but hey, I could still see them being different!scum and that might even explain the way amrun has behaved toward him so I guess that's a possibility.Mastermind of Sin
LEANING SCUM (NULL-SCUM):
Nobody Special- Mostly gut here. What little I've talked to him over has left me with the impression that he cares more about ferreting out what I think than actually sharing his own thoughts.
- I understand that real life can intefere with a game, but when someone posts in a game and I go "wait what the fuck I didn't even know they were IN this game", there's a problem.Espeonage
- This fucking slot. Not a single person who's been in this slot has contacted me. Not a single person who's been in this slot has done a single thing that struck me as town. What has this slot said in this game? Other than GreyICE's hyperaggression bullshit, I WOULDN'T EVEN REMEMBER if I didn't look back at his posts because THAT'S HOW WELL HE BLENDS INTO THE BACKGROUND. I will probably not be sad if this slot eats a bullet, regardless of its actual alignment.BBMolla
LLD- Still lurky as fuck in thread. Do not like. After talking to her 1v1, she has obviously spoken to at least a couple people a lot privately but, well, one of them is Amrun so lol. Unless she posts more content in thread she should probably also eat a bullet, regardless of actual alignment. (Can you tell I'm hoping there's a vig in this game?)
- Where the fuck is this guy? What has he been up to? I sure don't know.Agar
SCUM:
Amrun- In the end, this read boils down to CONTRADICTIONS LOL to me. For a long while I thought she was null-scummy... ended up talking to her 1v1 at some point and veered toward null-towny based on only that, so I dropped her into my null box and decided I'd figure her out later. Was torn for a while -- I think Pie got mad at me for refusing to agree with him, even. XD But then I watched the 1v1 live and the way she made her case there just hit me with the force of a piano dropped from a 20 story building. I am fairly confident of this read, for a D1 read.-
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Yep, because no one has ever caught scum via process of elimination...
I've focused on figuring out who town are. You're not one of them, so your opinion doesn't exactly mean jack crap to me, sorry.
staeg is null cuz I had a town read on bitmap, learn to fucking read-
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I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
If I know who town are, I know who scum isn't. That's just as valuable if not more in early game, imo.
PEDIT OH MY GOD LEARN TO FUCKING READ
I SAID YOU ARE NOT TOWNY THAT DOES NOT AUTO MEAN YOU ARE SCUM
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you see how I have a 'town' category? You are not there. I therefore do not give a flying fuck what you have to say to me, especially when you can't say it without being a condescending bitch. That's different from thinking you're obvscum.
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON GETTING STRONG TOWN READS sal;kgtasl;dgjk-
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another point: If I'm sure about someone being town, they're in my town category. If I'm sure about someone being scum, they're in my scum category. There are people I think are scummy without necessarily thinking they are the obvscummiest scum to walk the earth. Thus, leaning scum. Yes, you're in that category. Suck it.
it shows pro-town motivation if someone reaches out to me. I know I'm town, so I'd rather see who makes that effort towards me
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"a little"?
you're fucking blacklisted after this game.
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k so let me get this straight, lld
You'reusing sarcasm to callmea shit player and all sorts of otherclassythings, while simultaneously attacking me for reacting to that with understandable vitriol
and you expect me to want to interact with you at all afterwards?
fuck that shit.
I'm going to answer your questions that you've already posted
and any questions after that, I will still answer, but if you want to address me at all in this game after this point you're going to have to field them through someone else who can manage not be a colossal [bleep], because I am not responding to you directly from this point forth as long as you're like this. You actually managed to be something approaching cordial when I talked to you 1v1, but that chick is not you in this thread and I refuse to deal with thread-you.
This is why I wanted fucking WOTC in this game. Goddamnit.
anyway:
Oh, and also, have any of my questions been about your read on me besides the fact that your null-scum list is terrible? I don't recall this.
You didn't ask, but it became relevant when you were acting like I should care what you think of your reads when one of my reads is that I'm leaning scum on you.
ALSO, if it shows pro-town motivation to reach out to players, why aren't you doing it yourself Ms. Townie? Isn't being READ AS TOWN an important job of a townie so they don't get mislynched? Further, it's a pro town motivation for a reason. You not doing it is.... SHOCKINGLY ANTI TOWN.
Counter-question: Why are you assuming that I haven't reached out to anyone? It sounds like you're trying to assume the worst of me, either to make me look bad for something that isn't even true (oh hey look, scum motivation) or due to some kind of weird vendetta or confirmation bias.
The very first thing I did when this game opened was initiate conversation f2f with Reck. I discussed a theory I had (which I can't share publicly) and some other stuff, don't really remember specifics by now but point is, I eagerly initiated that conversation and reck can confirm that. While at scumhaus I initiated conversation with pretty much everyone who was there at least once and they can all verify that I was eager as fuck to get reads on people while I could do so f2f. After leaving scumhaus, I have admittedly focused much of my outside conversation about the game toward Pie. I've found it immensely helpful to have someone to talk to regularly in the game who I believe 100% is town -- it's almost like being a doublevote hydra. I initiated a conversation via PM with Fate earlier today, he can verify this -- and hell, pretty much anyone on my town list I've initiated conversation with at least once. There have been a few times I've tried to contact someone and they never replied (reck post-leaving scumhaus, NS once or twice). At this point I've talked to roughly 2/3 of the game 1v1 and I think that's pretty damn good for D1 and considering I was V/LA for one of the days and drunk like half the time I was at scumhaus.
And her way of switching her reads to suit the situation and defend herself
yep you caught me, totally switching my read on you
WEDNESDAY, AUG. 1ST:
esurio: Speaking of LLD, what is your read on her?
esurio: Full disclosure: What I've seen of her is making me very, very tempted to switch my vote to her
esurio: I have not talked to her one on one and don't really want to vote her before I've done so (or until I see she's making an effort to stall talking to me when I've given her multiple ways to contact me)
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esurio: and that's why I want to talk to her first
esurio: because I think if I just flat-out voted her she would just flip her shit on me and nothing pro-town would come of that
This is an excerpt of a conversation I had with Amrun, since you guys are so ~BUDDY BUDDY~ you can confirm that I said that to her -- assuming she hasn't "deleted" or "lost" her logs again. (I would have liked to have kept what she'd said there, but it took five lines to get across what I was saying and that's the max .-. Note to self: Type IMs in paragraphs.)
not only that, but I also think I said something to the effect of "leaning scum on LLD" in thread (too lazy to iso myself to confirm though)-
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@reck: how dare you have a life :<
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