Scummer of Love Invitational: Day 4 - The day the music died

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^based on a true story

Vote:Uberninja

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Yes. You continuously disappoint me.

you are now the proud owner of 8 town points. use them wisely.

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AMERICA

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i'll give you that the town points are arbitrary because it was amusing to me
but bb's tone there plus what's happened with bb and un in other things makes that actually the towniest post in the entire game right now.

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brandi i get not liking policy lynches and this might not even be the

best

thing to do since I think UN is generally readable but I'm personally pretty happy with lynching UN today given how I've seen him play in recent games and think that everyone else's views on him are at the very least totally justified. and to demonstrate this it will be STORY TIME.

So in the game I was in with him UN was spammy but generally tolerable until he got wagoned on day 3
where he insulted a bunch of players on his wagon
claimed tracker
lived til night
tried to track one of two actual 100% claimed confirmed townies out of 20something people
and then refused to say why he thought the people he tracked were scummy, which lead to his immediate lynch.

here are the actual posts regarding it. (to the mod dudes the game is finished) dana was confirmed town from being masonized and it being claimed earlier in the game.

why did you target everyone you targeted with your ability
dup and spy and dana
not <because i didn't know they were town>, why did you think that they were either
a)scum that would be worth tracking
or
b) good enough tracker targets for whatever other reason

i tracked dana because he is independently scummy and i missed the fact that he's "conftown" duh
i revealed my track target on dana because i have no fucking shame. i coulda made shit up
but no. i'm a fuckin townie and i ain't makin shit up

bbmolla's experience with him is IMO even worse.

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Huh.

I think Axxle has a decent chance of being scum from his vote me but be suspicious of brandi post.
Not really confident that he IS scum though.
don't have many reads so i'd prefer the day not end yet.

also why is axxle the one looking at a green card you give those to other people and they read it to you.

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COPY PASTE BAM
Green cards - "Quizzle": Quizzle cards ask trivia questions. Example: "Which 2 of the following are NOT songs by the Beach Boys?" A) Last Summer B) Surf's Up C) Get Around D) Surfin' Safari or E) Sand in My Crack (Figure it out!)

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don't see anything that looks like an alignment tell in panzer's iso

katsuki can be weakly gut town

yeah i still want UN to get noosed.

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i do not understand the glork push at all and am currently too drunk to attempt to do so

like really i can see him going over the face to face behaviors mentions as scum since it's easier to talk about theories than scumreads as scum but I don't see why that actually makes him more likely to be scum than not, townz do that shit all the time too.

gonna comment on something in particular either tomorrow night or sunday if you wanna anticipate stuff

also i will use this space to state that godamn I hate MoS's playstyle

kk cya soon guys

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nono this game needs the people who are getting replaced to actually exist. then shit can actually get done.

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wait actually thats just elmo isn't it

maaay have been confusing the number of people who are getting replaced in the two games I'm in. man that means we don't even have an excuse for shit not getting done though.

now's about the time I'd like to just swing this HARD against a lurker since the UN wagon isn't actually happening and there's one in particular that I think is a pretty good choice but I'm waiting an extra day to see if they post something readable first and also because i feel like it.

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so i was a little more confident in this earlier than I am now just from rereading but its still not a bad vote so.

Vote: evilpacman

-He's lurked through the vast majority of the game so far when UN and Axxle have been the primary wagons and it hasn't looked likely to change
-His only content post avoids talking about the main wagons and goes after katsuki when i think it's pretty clear from his posts that kats is voting on policy instead of having a scumread on un at first
-and i think his rhetorical questions about axxle and my posts are more likely to come from scum looking for approval of what they're doing/thinking/etc in the game.

Personally I think he has a pretty good shot at being scum but given how difficult it is to get someone dead even when there are solid reasons to kill them I'm not really expecting enough people to go after this when a lot of it is what I think scum would do in this situation and not as much <these posts are bad for these reasons>. So if this can actually happen then i'll be happy to be wrong and you guys will all be amazing but otherwise soon I'll just make a list of all the people that I'd be fine killing and try and get whichever of them is possible to kill today dead.

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^this is the singular point in the game wherein I agree with UN

also looked through evil's old games because of what reck said and he just lurks everywhere whenever he wants so that's not really an alignment tell. he does need to post in this game though and has posted in other ones earlier today and on the 25th.

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heeeeey guys we have 5 and a half days left until deadline.

HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE I WILL MURDER
Axxle
UN
MoS even though I don't actually have a read on him at all
I'll VOTE glork just because he isn't voting anyone and that's stupid but seriously there are not enough people in this game willing to lynch glork to make that happen
probably panzer
also probably EPM but man I'm still not confident in that despite me causing the entire wagon.

was going to vote axxle here but actually i'm going to reread some first. above still applies.

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yeah sure why not

WAGON SWING

Unvote, Vote:MoS

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Wait you guys I need to make a serious and well thought out response to UN's accusations against me.

ahem.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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I hate you all.

WE TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
IN THE END
IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER

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no, panzer's wagon hop excuse was awful.

Vote:Panzer

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i think i actually would have killed wyrd if i was scum and he wasn't scum with me? nuwen'd probably be pissed because she's dying super early in a lot of games recently but given what I've seen of her other games I think she's the best player in this game, and she and fate both saw me as scum in the first reckoning invitational aand fate has seen me as town a million times for comparison.

if you want to go for people who actually have a good reason to kill brandi vote panzer with me. because really really really using an imaginary second scum group to justify what would normally be a bad vote given what he said were his opinions is AMAZINGLY likely to be scum.

and also do you know why I helped kill MoS even though I had absoutely no read on him, and probably still would have even if I had a slight town read on him?

because I want this game to be fun. and MoS's posts are generally full of enough arrogance and superiority to make the game irritating just by him being in it.
so UN in that train of thought please try to tone it down a bit. condensing your posts a little and just explaining things instead of trying to be flashy and important and better than the rest of the game would go a long way towards making it more enjoyable.

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jesus and before even finishing my post you're insulting someone else.

please UN? it's not necessary.

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not really expecting you to unvote me for what i say since i'm a scumread of yours, wyrd/brandi comment is more for everyone else.

and unless i missed something you're the only vote on me right now. if you actually want me lynched it would probably help if you didn't act like everyone's going to listen to you already and actually appeal to them instead of assuming they'll do what you want and making snide comments if they don't. it'd make the game more fun too =)

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huh?
what advice am i taking?

also if appealing to emotion will make me actually enjoy the game when i sit down to read it then sure i'll do that every day of the week.

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man don't do that yet, we already got one asshole out of the game and maybe UN can chill a bit. Really think that panzer is the best lynch right now.

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@Gamma, who kills people that are suspecting them? Isn't that super suspicious. /in b4 wifom, but then again you already used a wifom arguement to argue against your wagon. Also how is my hop excuse worse than "He's town. Don't care"

BBmolla bad town as always

Vote:Glork

<- still scum

i'll tell you exactly how it's worse

wyrd's vote, although not helpful for lynching scum, stood on its own reasons and got a player out of the game that would generally be an irritating pain in the ass until near LYLO.

given your read on glork, you KNEW that given that a vote on MoS was bad, and decided to justify it you'd do some shitty setup speculation about a scumteam that wasn't particularly likely d1 just from the oddish numbers of the game (2vs2vs12 or 3vs3vs10 are both not particularly good and make way less sense than 12vs3vs1 or just a 12vs4) AND has pretty much been just proven to be absolute garbage given the single nightkill.

And deflecting with 'my vote was less bad than this guys' is way more likely to be scum thinking they can't get called on something because a townie's done something similar that's arguablely worse. No justification at all is way more likely to come from town than a garbage excuse for jumping on a wagon and vice versa.

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that has literally NOTHING to do with what panzer is doing now.

send nuwen over instead please and if she agrees then i maybe-but-probably-still-won't help lynch matt. he could be scum but him over panzer unless panzer is 100% not getting lynched is garbage.

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eh fine. tell her to go over panzer and give me an opinion and then i will legitimately try to care about your opinion on matt. no that is actually not sarcasm I will give it a serious shot.

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yeah see to me that read as a defense, not him trying to get credit for a future-glrok lynch. appreciate the effort you took in explaining it though.

HEY MATTP

I CHALLENGE YOU TO NAME ALL OF THE SCUM IN THE GAME AND GET AT LEAST 3 OF THE 4 (yes 4 is the reasonable number to go here, pretty sure) RIGHT. YEAH IT CAN'T BE CHECKED UNTIL ENDGAME BUT I WANT IT NOW.

POWERFUL READS FOR POWERFUL TIMES

CAPITAL LETTERSSSSSSSSSS

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Fate, answer my question!!

Gamma why do you want my four scumreads?

BECAUSE.

I'LL VOTE YOU IF YOU DON'T
I'M CRAAAAAAAZY LIKE THAT

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RELAXING IS FOR CASUALS WHO AREN'T TRYING TO POST IN A MILLION GAMES AT ONCE

(yes i can wait for you to get to a comp but seriously i'd rather you just go down the playerlist now and tell me who the scum are in the manliest shoutingest way possible)

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wait
hold on

how closely are you reading this game.

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oh you said it was a d1 reads list.
but

bluh. whatever, i'll read over it better, one sec.

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like
why a day 1 reads list

why not just THESE FOUR PEOPLE. i mean i know you're not me and don't want to do things for shits and giggles all the time but why go back and get a day 1 reads list instead of just posting what you thought about shit now.

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i feel that your explanation is fair but not particularly alignment-revealing and I am very slightly saddened by it.

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also i might actually ask for 'less accurate' reads in the future in some way so i'd be careful about offering that.

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man i literally just commented on how i am in more games at once ALL OF WHICH ARE IN DAY than I have ever been in before I am not going through lolmeta for shit right now.

guessing right now i'd say town but i also think that at least two of your big 4 reads are wrong (don't think reck and wyrd would be scum together and both be lurking garbage when they would have a DAMN good chance of winning by just controlling the game with screaming death, also have a gut-town read on glrok even though it's not strong) and i'm not actually sure where i'm going with this but OPINIONS.

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actual post later tonight. axxle is probably fine though.

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yep axxle is in fact fine. alternatively i could just sheep glrok since he looks town and my reads are a godamn swamp of muddling indecision but he doesn't seem to be much more active than i am.

Unvote, Vote: Axxle

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claim is fine because it's not mafias and i don't particularly care about a SK right now

unvote

kinda want to vote reck. gonna try to get better opinions on people first though.

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also by 'people' I have just now decided that I meant 'reck' and will now vote him accordingly

Vote: Reck

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hi
hihi

lynching axxle today is awful
if there is a 'sk' that wants to shoot horrifically scummy people and he continues living after tonight then we deal with it after several additional scummy people are dead. i wouldn't even be surprised if axxle is town too.

also we should totally lynch reck you guyz. you guyssss.

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guyzzzzzzzzzzzz

actually nevermind i can just sheep nacho he seems like a cool guy. hey nacho are you okay with pretending that 'that guy' is reck sometime in the near future for amusement and/or scum lynches y/n?

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nacho i'm going to pretend you said than* instead of with and not ask for any clarification on this matter whatsoever.

Unvote, Vote:MattP

LAZERS

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well i'm sure someone can.

i can't though. i've got pretty much no confidence in any of my reads this game so i'm just sheeping people who look like they know what they're doing. I'd probably sheep you instead if you weren't voting axxle and that being dumb.

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like seriously i know his dayplay is garbage but when someone does something that makes complete sense given a town mindset given his position in the game (killing panzer for the reasons he described) and it kind of makes sense for scum but there are better plays, you hold the fuck on and give scum a night to shoot them.

at the VERY WORST he is actually a sk and has to make a kill that makes sense for town to do, has a decent chance of hitting scum given how muddled this game is in general, and we gave up lynching him for a single day to try to lynch mafia.

i actually think he's fairly likely to be town here.

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i still think reck is a better lynch than wyrd. like yeah they're both lazy as fuck this game but nuwen had at least had a decent thought about panzer and reck is GUTSCUMZ whereas wyrd is not so yeah. the only town thing i remember reck doing was saying that epm had been a mislynch in a past game and he'd totally say that as scum too.

also recks posts on this page are bad.

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If you're going to trust people blindly it should be the guy that idk is like pretty good at nailing scum AKA ME

waka waka mos lynch

i mean i won't say that i trusted you or anything for it cause that would just be a lie
but saying I'M GUUD AT DIS GAME when i don't think i've been in any completed ones with you and you just pushed a mislynch is kinda dumb.

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sleep is for casuals

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im not sure if you were being super clever or super dumb.

i guess i can go with clever now and defer assuming dumb for when you're drunk and i'll be right about it.

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hi fate
already voting matt i guess

yep.

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nope
nope
nope

mattp self-voting just triggered several thousand bullshit scum gambit warnings
i haven't seen him in many games but from what I have seen he is way better than that

didn't even have a strong read on him before and now he needs superdeath.

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It sounded like a such a convincing reason to vote you in my head but I'm pushing too hard to have a reason to come down on either side of this debate. I don't have much of a read on you either way and what little I learned to read Fate at SoL translates about as well as, er, something that doesn't translate well into forum play.

wait
im stealing this metaphor
it translates about as well as dick drawings into a musical performance

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idk if you're scum or not but wagoning you is fun as shit all the times

reck i will reconsider my scum read on you if you keep speaking truths like this

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i could i guess

not right now though

maybe tomorrow

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guyz i halped

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that clearly should have been an exception.

LOOK WHAT YOU DID KATSUKI YOU SLUT

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i think panzer said you were going to kill ME night 1 instead?

which i guess wouldn't have been a bad choice either given how much i poked at reck day 2 but brandi was still obvtown and super suspicious of panzer d1.

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I also should thank NOT GAMMA who else that validated my suspicions of Reck.

SINGLE TEAR.

also yeah the mods were baller, thanks for everything =D

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well fiiiiine