Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[D3f3nd3r]

I don't have the time to make a huge post about the past 7 pages, but I will say that

I did not win anything.

I think some of these items went for WAY too much.

[D3f3nd3r]

Ok. Gonna look into the large wagons.

Also, I think that seven pages in a large normal is too little for set town-scum reads. I also find interesting the lack of a large RVS.

Seanald first:
73: Lots of meta work. Tammy's self meta, and stuff based on Mehdi, Matt, and Sala.
92: He unvotes Tammy for something that would probably earn my vote on Tammy.
93-94, 97: Meh. Nothing at all scum.

Now Tammy:
Lots of talk, not much content. I wanna see more from you that helps.

@SlumberPartyBois: I'm convinced I've heard the first part of 45 out of your mouth before.

@Stephan: Scumslip much?

[D3f3nd3r]

Oh yeah. I can't really place Sean anywhere significant. He's slightly town now for me.

[D3f3nd3r]

Two posts. 24 hours. No walls of text.


Idk why two posts this early put a target on my back.

[D3f3nd3r]

IMO, Seanald's wagon is really love/hate. Some are convinced he is scum, and some that he is town. I don't quite see what's wrong with him, like many others.

Oh, and the first part of 281 is about me. Made a numbering error.

BBMolla's claim: Way too early. From past experience, early miller claims came when a player was L-1 from an RVS wagon, even though the player in that game was scum. It's either scum playing it safe or a genuine town claim, probably the former. IMO, a town miller should claim towards the end of the day, not in the first post of it.

BBMolla's Dayvig claim: Probably not real. If it doesn't go through, I think he's next to go down.

Now, this is a few people I've played with or who played in the game I modded:
Guille: Same as previous game, where both of us were town.
Phillammon: Much more content than previous game, where both of us were town. (Same game as Guille, ended June)
Eidolon: Much less posting than the game where he was town enough to get daykilled by scum. (Open 444, ended September)

[D3f3nd3r]

BBMolla's claim: Way too early. From past experience, early miller claims came when a player was L-1 from an RVS wagon, even though the player in that game was scum. It's either scum playing it safe or a genuine town claim, probably the former. IMO, a town miller should claim towards the end of the day, not in the first post of it.

What games have you been playing, in nearly every game I've played with a miller they've claimed immediately day one.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22472: Shotty claimed miller when pressed during RVS. He was scum.

[D3f3nd3r]

I'm FoSing him as a Miller. It's better how he's a Vig.

[D3f3nd3r]

All I got from 186 was a question I forgot to answer. Being unable to place a read means he's null.

[D3f3nd3r]

I am not the NKer, but I accidentally PMed this to Bois. I then sent another PM to him and Magua saying that I clicked the wrong button.

[D3f3nd3r]

Second half of Rule 4 under Advertisement says that something advertised once can't be advertised again. I saw that this was there before Gentlemen's post.

Stefan, I don't see why you really want the NK.

[D3f3nd3r]

The first part.

If I survive, I'd probably put Cop out for advertising. How much should I say I want to pay for the ad?

[D3f3nd3r]

Well, this seems to be working out for town. If y'all think lynching the innocent yet often-scumslipping town guy would be a great mislynch, go for it. If not, meh. I feel that my wagon is driven by one particular scum group, but had several townies on it.

[D3f3nd3r]

I feel screwed. I bet even if Magua declared me town (like I am) I'd still be lynched.


What can I do to...uh...not get lynched?

[D3f3nd3r]

Eidolon doesn't look quite like he did in the game he played that I modded. I can see lots of posting in the case of both, but there's definitely more there in that game (he was town). Seems worse here. Slightly scum.

GreyICE seems slightly VT, but his posting isn't great. Seems to be a town leader though. Null.

Seanald seems a little fluffy. Null leaning scum.

Elmo is lurker. Not saying scum, but I don't want him at LyLo.

[D3f3nd3r]

I just looked at a few past lists of reads and gave my reads on players listed as scummy.

[D3f3nd3r]

Phil meets the town meta I have of him. The fluff is there (but much less than the meta game), but he's a little more lurker here (9 posts within the first 4 RL days there, 6 here.)

Recommended Reading: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22472 (Phil, a couple heads of different hydras, and I played. Phil and I were town, but game was abandoned.)

[D3f3nd3r]

I agree a bit now that I look. This game seems a little more serious, but not quite paranoid. Last game seems more calm, bringing up references to other stuff and playing much more with the special mechanic.

[D3f3nd3r]

Five bucks (for the townie Role PM posted by Magua) doesn't mean terribly much here. Just saying. Yes, lynching well before deadline does, but lynching scum > lynching fast.

[D3f3nd3r]

$5 per townie. Assuming $1900 remains, I assume that would be a total of $70 a day, assuming a total of five living scum. We'd already be making $650, assuming townies except BBMolla (who claimed) all get the $50 Magua said in his example Role PM. Assuming we do lynch in, say, the next week, we're still making around half of what we'd make if we lynched on RL day 1 of the Day.