Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Seanald]

Oh are you pointing out your voting me for voting gentleman bastards when we were out of rvs and talking srzbznz...see if you actually knew me, you would know I was half serious about my frustration. But since you haven't actually played any full games with me, you don't know that balance and role spec is something I'm supremely slow about and often get mixed up on, so whatever...carry on.

Oh that's scummy. :bows: caught me...

Pedit: oh the laundry list of contradictory items...as I said step aside there are people here who actually know how to read me :shrug:

Stop the self meta WTF?

VOTE: tammy

Mehdi this is the second time you've convinced me your town within 2 pages, you got talent mah boy you could really go places!

and side note, Matt's anger gives me a good sized boner.

And Sala still playing like Sala, which also means many of you will fall for the fallacy that he is too VI to be scum, dont listen to these inner voices of deceit.

[Seanald]

^ can't decide if you keep fishing. you asked the same question of sala.

UNVOTE: tammy stop whining tammy, you do realize that your mouth is just moving but nothing good is coming out, you should of learned in elementary school that talk is cheap. If you just play the game well tammy you don't have to go around saying, hey im town im town and if you don't think so then you just can't read me right. Sounds like a teenage girl, get over that quick cuz its annoying to read.

Anyway. Does BBmolla fall under Lynch all Liars and Lynch all Millers right now?

[Seanald]

Direct the kill, or block the kill?

[Seanald]

I'd be a fan of that plan if we can block the kill, clearly any early game vig would likely hit town, I'd rather a kill be decided through lynching by good play in the topic.

[Seanald]

I've seen her do this before and she turned up town so pulling the vote for now.

[Seanald]

I'm here, not avoiding this intentionally I promise you. just spent like 2 hours catching up.

Also Mehdi, the biggest by far scum-tell of Seanald is the fact that he voted Tammy for using self-meta then unvoted her stating that he's seen her do it before as town and seen her act this way, if that was the case he wouldn't have voted her in the first place and the fact when it was requested for him to link the game he's talking about he vanished and never responded is massive, especially when he's extremely active elsewhere.

Haha, Seanald quickly lurked this subforum and left.
God I love D1 obvscum lynches.

1. I've never been called extremely active before. and my phone's internet page is set to Mafiascum so if i ever go onto the internet it will load up mafiascum and auto sign me in and stuff, i just never close out the page so its quicker to use, so sometimes It will say im on even though im not.


Here is the game where tammy acted similar. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22064 (mainly day 2 I believe, during Wall wars with MoI)

I initially voted her for using what I thought too much self-meta and I acually think Tammy is a good player so I figured she was manipulating the fact she knew her own self-meta, but then I remembered this game after I voted her which obviously led to my unvote.

And, Ill just apologize Tammy, my post was a bit insulting didn't mean it like that.

[Seanald]

Also.
Not sure how to go about this but.
I won the auction on the COP ability. I bid all $100 on it, I figured I would be an early days target and I've never had a cop ability before.

[Seanald]

SEANALD YOU WILL BUY THE FUCKING ORACLE OR DIE!

Sounds fair to me, I'm not in a position to really argue. honestly just want to coordinate and have town control as much as possible, so mind as well control me.

[Seanald]

you werent going to be lynched today. why did you claim cop 2day as opposed to 2morrow when lynch would be a concern?

because I thought we were trying to coordinate shit? I dont really care about self preservation, id rather just get shit done.

[Seanald]

what you mean by different way?

[Seanald]

Since there is no oracle, would you guys want me to advertise for something?

[Seanald]

also we should be having only one transfer per town read so that in the event of a lie, there are only two possible spots to check, making a scum lie a 1 for 1 trade instead of a potential 1 for 2 trade.

^ the only reason you need.

I'm for the plan, and is the target pool you want me to investigate remaining the same?

[Seanald]

I should say now since it's going to be a problem this is a delayed plan. Money transferred isn't received until the following night.

^ forgot about that.

[Seanald]

Mehdi don't do peoples math for them, your eliminating a way for scum to get caught.

[Seanald]

im saying if you know the math for what everyone should transfer, and tomorrow someone claims what they got and it ended up being more or even less than what should of been transfered you'll then know they were lieing.

[Seanald]

and they could accidently mess that up through bad math.

[Seanald]

ugh, still not my point. nvm

[Seanald]

when voided posted, all i heard was Blah blah blah parrot parrot parrot, im posting but I didnt really read everything, what do i do? blah blah

[Seanald]

Can we not fucking restart the day, this is how town dismantles themselves, Once you have a plan stick to it. The more time that goes by more money lost, but more importantly that is more time to forget or not be as sure and prepared on the plan, you know someone is going to be asking, ok so what do i do for tonight and we'll have to explain it all again.

Organization is the priority here and whats going on now is not promoting organization. a consensus and decision needs to be made quickly.

[Seanald]

Ok I am here sorry, I just bought the game Dawnguard (addition to Skyrim) and it has been sucking my life away..its just too fuckin powerful.

I investigated Guille and the result was. Not Mafia.

Also im just wondering, what is the purpose of the money claiming besides full discolosure? isn't it just telling scum who best to target right now?

[Seanald]

The half of the game that has claimed is the half we called scum.

The town half hasn't

OOH OOH does thats includes me????!!!!!???

[Seanald]

so your going to waste another use of the COP ability? shoot me the next day, and if your so sure im scum why not use your efforts to find another one?

[Seanald]

or Shooting somone like Phil who no one has mentioned today, and he has vanished once again, im suspecting another beatlejuice from him.

[Seanald]

Let me put it simple. I wasn't going to let anyone else get Immunity.

Sure I overbid a bit and threw 69 down on it, Figured if I take it out of the game we're not going to have problems..

I bid 31 on Extra Vote.

I honestly don't think much of Elmo, he hasn't done shit all in this game. To me this was the most damning of his posts if you even want to call any of his posts damning, im not really sold on him being scum.
The bolded part is what I find strange, why the hell say that at all?

two ways to look at that, he is town and he was just trying to make sure scum don't get that ability.

The other being he is scum and doesn't want to be found out, but he knows he can wifom this shit with, well scum wouldn't claim to have the immunity.

I get the feeling that elmo is just simply....useless I guess.

[Seanald]

he is null for me to make it basic haha

[Seanald]

VOTE: Phil

Also, I just can't trust Phil, read his Iso back a bit and it just feels off. Different than what I've seen from him in the past.

[Seanald]

no one vote Elmo.

Why is Phillamon scum?

Can everyone post in bold if they trust SPB or not?

Phill, if you think SPB is scum, why did you transfer?

Mehdi or Tammy, can you see some form of scum motivation for SPB's plan

SPB is the most obvious fucking town I could ever show an example of, I really can't understand anyones paranoia of him. hes playing an extremely transparent game which can only come from honest town play.

[Seanald]

I can get more into that if you want

[Seanald]

BBmolla is like a van gogh. Sorta a genious but something is fuckin off lol. I actually don't believe he shot anyone.

[Seanald]

If I am using my Cop Shot, is there a pool you guys want me to use it from like last time? or what?

[Seanald]

you named like the whole game lol.

[Seanald]

^ true

[Seanald]

stop looking at me....

[Seanald]

perv

[Seanald]

^ agree, as long as it doesnt take like 5 more days.

[Seanald]

SEAN I AM BURNING THE TAILOR ON STEPHAN

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Whats that mean exactly? the whole tailor ability confuses me actually.

[Seanald]

Seanald: 577 "I figured I would be an early days target", what do you mean by that? And why would it encourage you to bid on cop?
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BTW, anyone here familiar with Seanald's meta? I don't know it but people are acting like he has a reputation.

read my games yo....just read my games and you will see...you will seeeeeeeeee.

i bid on cop cuz I never had cop ability before. and I did it like 2nd or 3rd day, in the middle sometime.

Also, Im glad to see your town, usually I say HEY YOUR FUCKIN SCUM FOR ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, too easy to look like your doing something, but your questions are all over the place, very natural & freeflowing, genuinely trying to pick up the game.

I SIR, DUB YOU TOWN.

[Seanald]

Peregrine I can't read you for shit right now, i dont know what to make of that.

[Seanald]

your saying if someone bid earlier than me on cop, that means im scum?

[Seanald]

^ lol a much needed laugh while reading this game.

[Seanald]

Can't tell if peregrine is stiring shit up, or on to something actually good....

[Seanald]

town on town yo

[Seanald]

Im not opposed to Sham lynch either.

I assume declan was overwhelmed with the game's speed which as scum your more likely to become afraid of posting anything and would be more likely to wait for an opportunity to post, problem is most of the time you have to make your own opportunities to post, so a scared scum player will end up not posting.

which keep in mind in the future when advocating more lurker kills analyze the other side of the coin. the fact that there is 69 pages within 2 game days, sometimes 10 pages within a single real life day thats a fuckin lot and can be very off putting. CFJ is a rare occurdence, ive never seen anyone do what hes doing replacing into a game.

[Seanald]

yeah CFJ, your walls combined with your avatar make the whole screen just look gray....

[Seanald]

that was a kid, dont take it personal please lol

[Seanald]

itd be wise to allow others to put their two cents in now, its been like 3 people talking for the past 5 pages.

[Seanald]

its ok...well give you time to search through the thread so you can copy the fake claim..

[Seanald]

In reply to the question, I think he's likely to be lynched, but not because he bought the cop. I think he would have been lynched much earlier if he hadn't, but town are typically (and correctly IMO) reluctant to lynch a claimed cop. There was a large wagon on him day 1, but he managed to avoid the vig, and later to avoid the lynch. Then people haven't really voted for him since, and are avoiding the problem today. I can't read him directly, so I'm trying to establish his alignment via relational tells and night actions.

the target on my back is constantly being perpetuated and it can't all be coming from town, just think about that for a second.

[Seanald]

also just thought of this, wanted to put it out there. if town have the night kill ability. would we wan't to just keep no lynching the days and winning the night kill over and over while we keep the best town reads investing? or something to that effect know what im trying to get at?

[Seanald]

well the idea of it would be to keep kills from happening, and continue draining scums money until the accounting of the game can be followed so much that we know who is scum. I think thats how it would work lol.

[Seanald]

-snip-

Nice way to ignore Mehdi's question.


And if at least one scum gets in as one of the townreads, they can just as well get enough to outbid most everyone, and then after a certain number of days use any NKs they've bought by the plan or on their own.

I dont understand the first part. or why it says snip.

and you do realize that same possibility can happen with the plan we are following now? and my plan had good intentions, no one brought up No lynches before.

that whole post was you putting more fire onto targets already lit on fire, useless post to look like your doing something.

[Seanald]

Forgive me for not talking, it's basically like you guys are talking about a trip you're going to go on and I can't go.

^ I like you BBmolla, shits funny.

@ Philla Still think your scum, and I also think Sham is scum but your on the other teams and dont know it.

[Seanald]

I find his scum read on SPB acually one of the worst parts. an easy way to toss in some more of the wifom going around concerning spb.

[Seanald]

@Seanald: at the end of your post #1487, why couldn't Phil and Sham be on the same team and Phil is busing. What brings you to the conclusion that they are both scum, but on opposite sides? I'm smelling a scum-slip.

they could be, but Phil went through a lot of work there with that Greyice wall, idk man its all wifom.

[Seanald]

telling you man, they are both scum. bussing seems logical too, since Greyice replaced the replacements have been useless, easy fodder to get some towncred.

[Seanald]

are you looking at me again grey?

[Seanald]

Ok, Investigative pool suggestions? i know some people gave them already but have they changed? or let me know what might be best.

[Seanald]

IM READING MAN im falling asleep, tickle my nuts while I catch up ok?

[Seanald]

I investigated CFJ. He is not mafia.

[Seanald]

to clear up the elmo thing, considering he was the leading wagon for a good while an investigate on him would stop a myslynch or tell us we were on the right track.

[Seanald]

yup, it was a huge risk, its mah style baby....

[Seanald]

yes I did grey, perhaps im not a pussy like some others around here....mainly those that have roses in their avatar.....

[Seanald]

Transfered $70 to you slumber.

rough reads list:

1.

BBmolla

2.

callforjudgement

4.

Guille2015

5.

Voidedmafia

6.

Mehdi2277

8.

SlumberPartyBois

9.

Pitty

10.

StefanB

11.

DeasVail

12.

PeregrineV

13.

Tazaro

15.

greygnarl

16.

Phillammon

18.

Tammy

20.

N

Cool, never used colors before in a post, that looks pretty.

Red = scum
Blue null
Orange = 3rd party
Light green = town
Dark Green = are the ones that are in my town reads list but could be hiding scum most easily I think, its really all wifom concerning them but I've notced my paranoid shifts to them.

[Seanald]

Stupid? or saved a whole day not wasting on connections between CFJ and Elmo?

[Seanald]

I got balls Bitch!

[Seanald]

No you're fucking stupid. Tammy is right. It's not ballsy at all. Obviously cfj is using the ability if he's scum. He's using it if he's town too. Investigating him helps nobody.

him using it would actually be a scum claim. He even said him self that he wants to play transparent, hence all of his posting yesterday and why shut out the possibility of being cleared town if you are town? that arguement makes no sense. its also another reason why I decided to investigate him, if he used it then it woulda meant he is scum in my opinion.

[Seanald]

I wouldn't know, and I already explained I believed CFJ wouldn't use the Inv Immu. There is alot of harping on me and I find it curious that with all this suspicion no one has asked any questions to CFJ??

[Seanald]

no one wants his side of the story? i guess as scum you wouldn't care to get as much information as possible but would want a fast lynch right?

[Seanald]

yes he neighborized me

[Seanald]

^ was to CFJ's question

[Seanald]

Qt was made november 19th 2012
4:18 pm ET.

total of 6 posts not including magua's initial hey this is the QT thing.

[Seanald]

read my iso dude, already explained it

[Seanald]

VOTE: Phill

im for that, hes my most sure of scum reads, no doubt he'll make another beatlejuice soon since these votes.

[Seanald]

VOTE: Phill

im for that, hes my most sure of scum reads, no doubt he'll make another beatlejuice soon since these votes.

Read: Oh hi guys, I'm totally not scum and now I'm going to jump on phil since Mehdi voted him. I had no interest in him before people voted but now he's obvscum.

you like flinging shit dont you?, i was voting on him yesterday and I see no reason to not vote him today.

[Seanald]

If im to die tonight. Slumber Party Bois, can you grant me a last request? Can i but spend 1 night at your slumber party?

[Seanald]

is the Password to your fortress. I Bench The Weight of Your Love and It Gets Bigger Everyday?

[Seanald]

Thanks MattP for punching my asshole so hard this game, learned quite a bit from my terrible play this game.

[Seanald]

How did you know I was lying Party Bois?

[Seanald]

damn

[Seanald]

lol not bad with the framing plan, but only getting people off by 1 dollar doesnt do shit, shoulda been like 5 or more dollars

[Seanald]

nah dude, having the NK bid is what makes this game so crazy cool. maybe like every other day put the NK on auction, or just get better scum teams. No offense but we lost because the members of the scum team were not great players, and the members of the town where.

We lost fair and square by good town play.