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Post Post #3391 (isolation #200) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:16 pm

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In post 3388, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3378, Zoidberg wrote:Ythan
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Rationale for your choices?


Ythan because I didn't know what my role did and was hoping something bad would happen to him. It was a theme game so I figured it was one of those "you find out you're a vig when your targets keep dying" scenarios.

Remaining ones were players I thought were pro-town AND reasonably likely to survive the night.
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Post Post #3394 (isolation #201) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:31 pm

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In post 3392, Iecerint wrote:It could be that you were paranoid that someone has a problematic track on you some day or other, so you were leaving open a back-door to explain any weirdness that people challenged you with.

You can almost always come up with a reason why vagueness might benefit scum, but it's rarer that it's clear why vagueness would benefit town.
FFS, I never said it was beneficial to town

Pedit: Why did you think Vollkan was pro-town? O.o
Early game I thought he was goodposting. I stopped looking at him closely as the game went on.
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Post Post #3395 (isolation #202) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:37 pm

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In post 3393, dramonic wrote:
In post 3390, Zoidberg wrote:
In post 3387, dramonic wrote:That's just as stupid as saying "I claim roleblocker, you got roleblocked N1 and he got roleblocked N3, therefore I dont need to tell you who I targetted N2, 4 and 5.
Information is being withheld, even if you're "confirmed"
No, the difference is that roleblocker actually has an effect on the game. Fruit Vendor by definition does not.

Action interaction means anything you do that produces a result of some kind is a source of information, even if the individual action does seemingly nothing.
Why is this so hard to understand.
Bitch all you want. The facts are that my role was already confirmed. I was V/LA.

I had 5 spare minutes, you think I'm going to waste my time digging through my inbox on my phone? Nope. I'd do it again, too.

This entire line of argument is borderline retarded and your insistence on pursuing it even though you know I'm right is just a smoke screen so you don't have to do any real analysis.
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Post Post #3402 (isolation #203) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:57 pm

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In post 3396, DrippingGoofball wrote:Or maybe <insert any completely fabricated reason here>?
Yes, from your perspective I suppose that's valid.

[/quote]What about all the other targets?[/quote]What about them?

In post 3397, DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm asking because I don't remember you finding me all that "pro-town."
I did until you tried to paint me as scum with completely faulty logic (which you then twisted into a defence of SPBs) and then shrugged it off with an "oh lols i wasnt reading the thread silly me"

In post 3401, DrippingGoofball wrote:Why did you target the claimed cop on NIGHT 4, given that rationale?
I would think it would be obvious.
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Post Post #3403 (isolation #204) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:15 pm

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In post 3314, Sir Elton Hercules John wrote:Kawaii [David Bowie], Mod Mason, was handcuffed to the bed and skullfucked to death N5


What is a mod mason?
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Post Post #3406 (isolation #205) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:12 pm

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Why aren't you voting me, then?

Why are you dragging out this preposterous charade?
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Post Post #3417 (isolation #206) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:20 am

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need more dramonic votes
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Post Post #3421 (isolation #207) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:48 pm

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In post 3403, Zoidberg wrote:What is a
mod
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Post Post #3482 (isolation #208) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:47 pm

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prod dodge, still here, busy weekend
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Post Post #3510 (isolation #209) » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:12 pm

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In post 3507, TheTrollie wrote:i find the way this was claimed to be more town oriented.


How, specifically, was it "town oriented"?
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Post Post #3629 (isolation #210) » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:17 pm

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Hi.

I am willing to be the compromise lynch today on the condition we don't lynch zoraster, who I have a very strong townread on.

VOTE: zoidberg
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Post Post #3636 (isolation #211) » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:41 pm

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In post 3630, dramonic wrote:... You havent been paying attention

In post 3631, DrippingGoofball wrote:Zoidberg's alias was well-chosen.

In post 3633, dramonic wrote:Dbg these people make me want to cry.
Hold me?


Lynch me, then. I don't want to be the one to fuck this up in lylo.
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Post Post #3696 (isolation #212) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:51 pm

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Voteless today.
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Post Post #3698 (isolation #213) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:49 pm

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In post 3697, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3696, Zoidberg wrote:Voteless today.


Really. I did get your message...


What's your point DGB?
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Post Post #3701 (isolation #214) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:23 pm

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In post 3699, DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm surprised that Trollie pickpocketed your vote, and I did get your message. What point do you think I'm trying to make?


It sure looks like you were trying to imply you didn't believe I was voteless because you got my dicktext.

VOTE: DeeGeeBee
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Post Post #3704 (isolation #215) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:10 pm

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In post 3702, DrippingGoofball wrote:

But now that you've cast a vote:

We can see if the vote is counted by the mod.


Yes that's why I cast it.
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Post Post #3705 (isolation #216) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:10 pm

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In post 3703, DrippingGoofball wrote:I expressed surprise that Trollie stole Zoidberg's vote,


Why are you surprised? Be explicit please.
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Post Post #3760 (isolation #217) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:14 am

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In post 3707, dramonic wrote:Zoid, confirm that ALL you do is fruit vendoring.
Yep

In post 3716, DrippingGoofball wrote:And now, for a teachable moment:

It's too bad that Zoidberg didn't hide his votelessness. He could have put someone at fake L-1, and the scum would hammer, and then Zoid would say, "sorry my vote don't count" and we'd lynch the hammerer for glory.

MESSAGE TO THE DEAD QT: Trollie you should have stolen my vote!
Damn it, wish I'd thought of that. :(

In post 3720, DrippingGoofball wrote:And I've been quietly running the scumputer in the background. You're the point leader.

267 zoraster
192 Zoidberg
83 Iecerint
33 dramonic
I think we already established like 50 pages ago that your silly numbers are both useless and worthless. Please stop relying on them; they don't work.

In post 3724, zoraster wrote:
Zoidburg
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Just for today, apparently.

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My bets are on DGB+dramonic as scum/sk.
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #218) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:15 am

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DGB: Right before D6 ended you said "Zoidberg is scum but noone believes me".

Now you're tunneling on zoraster. Why the change?
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Post Post #3775 (isolation #219) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:38 am

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In post 3766, DrippingGoofball wrote:Dram says he caught zoraster in a lie.
A claim that's yet to be substantiated. Still waiting on dram to clearly outline what this "lie" was.

Zoraster is refusing to fully claim.
I very much want dram to claim first. Of the four of you I find him the scummiest.
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Post Post #3778 (isolation #220) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:41 am

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DGB we all know you're not going to vote him and it's unlikely he'll be quicklynched.

So let's just drop the farce already.
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Post Post #3785 (isolation #221) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:37 am

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In post 3784, dramonic wrote:ive said i might have evidence, the same way a doc might have an innocent the night after no-kill. For all he knows, there's also a roleblocker in the setup. My evidence depends on others, as such i CANT use it if i dont claim last


Hahahaha, fucking bullshit.

Claim your evidence and let it be corroborated post-facto by others.
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Post Post #3787 (isolation #222) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:41 am

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no u
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Post Post #3797 (isolation #223) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:19 am

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In post 3760, Zoidberg wrote:My bets are on DGB+dramonic as scum/sk.


Fucking called it.
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Post Post #3798 (isolation #224) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:20 am

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In post 3796, dramonic wrote:i am Anderson Cooper, reporter.
im informed if my target used an action, nothing more, nothing less. i targetted OD nights 1-2-3, iece night 4, kawaii night 5 and zoraster night 6.
My result has been that my target actionned each time, except night 5 (kawaii obviously having no active)

now, if iece here had not confirmed ive been fucked with, it WOULD have incriminated Zor, but since i apparently targetted trollie my action had no impact. We kinda already knew that trollie actionned.

@iece: you think zor is confirmed then?


Why didn't you claim flavour?
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Post Post #3807 (isolation #225) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:09 am

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Post Post #3822 (isolation #226) » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:51 pm

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Lynch dramonic, then. Good compromise.
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #227) » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:31 pm

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In post 3823, dramonic wrote:Also when did you decide dgb wasnt scum after all?


I didn't
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Post Post #3844 (isolation #228) » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:33 pm

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Oh, we're back to speculating about the setup?

zzzzZZZZZzzz....

See you guys in a couple of days, I guess.
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Post Post #3863 (isolation #229) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:27 pm

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Because I'm not in dram's QT.
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Post Post #3866 (isolation #230) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:47 pm

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In post 3865, zoraster wrote:so couldn't he have redirected and killed last night? i guess it'd be pretty weird to have a mafia fruit vendor, but not unheard of.


I could have vended fruit and killed, but not vended fruit, redirected, and also killed. Unless I was a multi-targeting, fruit-vending, scum redirector.
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Post Post #3869 (isolation #231) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:42 pm

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Assuming of course Dram actually was redirected.
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Post Post #3924 (isolation #232) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:17 pm

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Why don't we just no-lynch?

We'll only get one flip, yes, but the numbers tomorrow will be the same as if we lynched and Iece JK'ed successfully.

It would still be in scum/SK's interests to kill off the other faction, and I find it hard to believe that they don't have a pretty good idea whom the other is.
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Post Post #3948 (isolation #233) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:35 pm

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Bleh. Nice win, Iece, you had me fooled.
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Post Post #3949 (isolation #234) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:36 pm

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In post 3949, Zoidberg wrote:Bleh. Nice win, Iece, you had me fooled.


Sorry, that should read. "Nice win[, DGB]. Iece, you had me fooled."
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Post Post #3998 (isolation #235) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:33 pm

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In post 3977, zoraster wrote:DGB had BP anyway, iec. best you could get would be a draw redirecting dgb at herself over and over and over.


I defintely would have gone hard at DGB had the game lasted another day. I had a p strong scumread on her ever since that completely-bullshit statistics crap she tried to push on us. So Iece might have been able to eke out a win in that case because I thought no way in hell Iece was scum.

:oops:

Anyways: I would like some feedback/constructive criticism on my play. This game was one of my worst games in terms of quality. I found the sheer volume of data to wade through made it incredibly difficult to get anything useful out of it.

At the same time, I feel like there's a whole 2nd level of play happening above my head. I got/get a lot of criticism in the form of "Zoidberg is just skimming off the top, not being deep" or whatever, and a lot of the things that people found scummy, I didn't really comprehend why that was the case.
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