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[sword_of_omens]

hey all! Back from my v/la and ready to start although it looks like i have some reading to do already...

i'm assuming we are out of RVS already, so i'll hold off on my vote til i catch up...
which will be today..

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ugh..the back and forth with Monkey and Arc is making my eyes bleed...
i'm not sure why Monkey got to L-2 as quickly as he did...i didn't see anything overly scummy to his responses...
his "contradiction" that D3x pointed out seems a little misleading to me (although i won't hold it against D3x as I have him as a town read)
Monkey was asked if Arc looked even the slightest bit town..and his response was that their was a possibility she could be…he then followed up and said that he thought the case on her as scum was pretty solid as well..not that she is conf-town or conf-scum…I could see Monkey and Arc as town on town…


Also d3x was right to vote for Mew based on his #78
@Mew – when you vote, do you have to use your second vote as well?
Curious as to why you put “main” vote on Arc, while quietly putting Monkey at L-2?

Vote: Mew

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1. Nope. I can place my votes separately and they are treated as independent of each other.

2. "Main" vote (not sure what you meant by this) was, I would say, my vote on Monkey during RVS - the Arc vote was an afterthought as I find early wagons a good way to press a slot for reactions (though I realize there has already been much debate over this).

3. Didn't put Monkey at L-2, my vote for Monkey was back on page 1 during RVS and was nowhere near L-2.

lol...open mouth...insert foot...i'm an idiot...sorry about that...
i didn't realize your original RSV was on Monkey already..i assumed you voted for Arc in thread, and "silently" added a vote by PM on Monkey bringing him to L-2 without saying anything...i thought maybe you were testing out your voting ability...
so yeh...

Unvote

@Phoenicks, we do not need to lynch a PR on day 1 who can potentially prove himself...

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pretty sure there are such things as secret voters...

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Just one question: In the whole thread did you not see anyone scummy enough to move your vote too after Mew, sword?

meh..after my fail, i want to go back and re-read a bit more carefully...

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sorry all,
work has been crazy and i probably won't be able to really look at this til tomorrow..
i promise to start pulling my weight..

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(hey CHK, glad you could jon us )


Ok,

Looking at the major wagons for the day:

So far Phoenicks has pretty much tunneled Monkey all day since the game had started, up to, and after Monkey’s claim...Seeing as everyone is a PR (and I use the term loosely) , it’s possible that scum might have a tracker, although I really didn’t see Monkey’s posts as scummy. I’d prefer to hold off and see if Monkey can prove himself …Phoenick’s case on Monkey doesn’t seem to be a very strong one either, so I’m not sure why he’s so determined to lynch him…and as q21 pointed out, Toogle’s #219 which showcases Phoenicks’ contradiction quite nicely…
Looking at GNR’s ISO, he mainly focuses on Monkey as well…once Monkey claimed, he backed off though, opting for a Phoenicks lynch… and while Mew does make a good point in his 216, I wouldn’t say it damns him…

Of the 3 wagons, I’d definitely prefer Phoenicks…

Vote: Phoenicks

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Monkey's "contradiction" that D3x pointed out seems a little misleading to me

What "contradiction" did I point out, exactly? I do not recall this.

it was in regards to your #76 in response to Monkey’s #71 and #75

The way you quoted Monkey (by omitting), you made it look like Monkey said Arc was town, and then immediately followed up with him calling her scum. The original question to him was whether or not there was any possibility Arc could be town. I read it as Monkey saying , “yeh she could possibly be town, but the case on her as scum is solid.”

I tried to explain that in that same post:

Monkey was asked if Arc looked even the slightest bit town..and his response was that their was a possibility she could be…he then followed up and said that he thought the case on her as scum was pretty solid as well..not that she is conf-town or conf-scum…I could see Monkey and Arc as town on town…

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There's no contradiction: I was going to analyze the Monkey wagon, and then decided not to. I was happy with my vote and didn't want to do the work. If the accusation is that this is scummy: How?

after his claim you said :

"Speed wagons are bad"
"Monkey's not 'imploding'"

And then we put him at L-1. Going to look through the Monkey wagon in a moment.

Well I took your post as saying that you thought Monkey might be town with how quickly the wagon got to L-1, so you were going to look into it…
You then ask if Viomi is on Monkey when she’s missed from the VC, so it appears you might be doing that….and then you come back later and ask why the wagon on Monkey isn’t going through…

PEDIT:

hope everything's ok Toogle

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@Mod: please note i will be V/LA for the weekend

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@CHKFLP - Gonna go out on a limb here and say that Master Mew is town...and no, not because all obv double voters are town...

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don't really want to get into it right now, but mainly balance....

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Thats not what I said Monkey...

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busy day, taking off right now... i'll respond and catchup tomorrow...

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Then what's you're opinion on the actual case, balance not withstanding?

From what I’ve read, this “case” boils down to his name not making 100% obvious sense with his role? While noted(although i haven't read the series either so i can't say how much of a stretch it might be), that’s still not gonna do it for me…I don’t view Mew’s posts as scummy..his reaction to D3x’s Unvote on him does strikes as town….so far he has been pretty active,he is asking good questions and has brought up some decent points…

@sword_of_omens: Why didn't you answer my question? Why did you feel the need to stick with the three major wagons?

Most of the discussion was based around those 3 people, and with the limited time I had to write and review, I figured I’d at least put my 2 cents in on them…

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i don't either...

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although i will say that my "ability" does make sense for my character (i have read this book)

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Swords, you don't have an italicized quote in your role PM?

my quote is just a quote from my character in the book...
it doesn't explain my role, neither does the rest of my pm..the rest of it just tells me how i go about in using my ability...


Still think Phoenicks is the way to go today...

Also:

@MOD: i will be going V/LA starting end of today through until Tuesday morning...going out of town...i will try and post in between some time if i can from my phone

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@Peregrine : where did your vote for D3x come from?
Also, i'm inlcined to believe Viomi on this...i don't think she would out herself as scum just to 1/1 a town tracker...

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lol, this game...

@Monkey, is this your first time as scum?

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huh...
definitely wasn't expecting that...


@Viomi, did you claim your character or just your role?

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Storyteller is a role that gets allotted twelve words per night-phase writeup.

Claim: Universal Backup

I'LL LET YOU FUCKING GUESS WHAT I GOT

lol...you were hoping for something a little more epic, were you?

@Mod : i will be v/la for the weekend as per my usual please,

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GNR, I don't understand how your Claim is connected and confirmed you that Monkey's was lying about his role? You're weren't the Tracker right? so how do you know that he was lying? Don't ignore this question.

GNR is counter-claiming Monkey's name...not role...
GNR also already stated that he was sure Monkey was lying because of the the cop result with "Magical Role Blocker"

That said, i am not buying GNR's defense either...he should have had no problem counter-claiming Monkey's name...he didn't have to give out role specifics...as counter to the name would have been enough...

i'm willing to hammer..

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ok..i'm still good with a GNR lynch today..

I could have counterclaimed then and there. However, I wasn't in the mood to die Night 1 or get lynched that day

like i said, all he had to do was counter the name, and that would have been enough...and it wouldn't have compromised his role, so i doubt it would have made him a priority target for N1 like he said it might.

And I’m sorry but the way he played the “Monkey is town unless he’s counter-claimed” is shady as hell… considering GNR would be the one to counter-claim him.

also, do you know who else was good with a GNR lynch?
TAM and Peregrine...

So yeh, still willing to hammer…

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Y'know what? I take it back. Swords' ISO looks scummy as fuck

lol CHK...care to point out the highlights in that?

How in the world can you have no problem with Sword of omens?

thinking he meant "he would have no problem lynching me".

Meh...i haven't been around as much as i'd like to this game but i'm town, so your votes on me will probably end up getting wasted...

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@MOD: i will be doing my usual weekend V/LA please (starting in an hour or 2)

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Y'know what? I take it back. Swords' ISO looks scummy as fuck

lol CHK...care to point out the highlights in that?

so yeh...still waiting on this CHK...actually curious as to why you aren't voting me considering i'm "scummy as fuck"....or were you hoping someone else would take up the torch?

Dude, why would scum have two kills? Everyone seems to ignore that FACT. GNR had and used a kill. Where in ever has there been a balanced game where scum had two kills in a night phase? It doesn't make sense

meh...who's to say he's not scum trying to get a vig to counterclaim? Just cause Katniss uses a bow doesn't necessarily mean that it's her...could be any number of books or characters..Legolas or Robin Hood...and no this is not a counterclaim...GNR's play has been nothing but scummy...

Vote: GNR

which should make it L-1

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lol...i was set up man.....
it's like i was totally skeered that CHK was gonna put his case together on me today or something…
naw man, you're barking up the wrong tree, here....

on a serious note, I will say that the GNR wagon most likely has scum on it…

Of those:

Vi is town…as much as I kept going back and forth on her in my mind…she’s town.

q21

/Fitz is also most likely town..people should be able to see this if they look.
Which leaves Toogs and Girth…
Toogs has his ups and downs, and so does Girth..
One or both could be scum..if I had to choose one I’d go Girth

Vote: Girth

@Dry – why don’t you like D3x?

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lol...i was just going over D3x's ISO and i swear i will laugh if his 718

chk- Were you given any indication why you gained the Storyteller ability and not the Gun Vendor?

is him as scum fishing to see if CHK picked up the Traitor role as a his backup, hence the CHK NK...

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lol VI,
confirmed PR doesn't mean confirmed town...
also, rolecop is often a scum role...
i crossed out q21 because he was replaced by Fitz...
q21 is town for something he did...i'm not going to point it out, but it's there if you look...
and you are town for something you DIDN'T do...

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@Toogs,
honestly you and Girth could go either way for me...
however, I didn't like how Girth started calling out CHK as scum at then end of the day...with CHK's vote on you and his promise to case me, he would make an easy WIFOM target for both of us...

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@Vi,
let's just say if you are scum, then you are either SK or some other 3rd party, how's that? (meaning you are not in a group)
and while your role would make a great ability for SK, seeing as how there are no other kills other than the scum kill blast flavor, and the Vig's arrow flavor, you are not SK.

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What gives Girth the edge over Toog?

this:

@Toogs,
honestly you and Girth could go either way for me...
however, I didn't like how Girth started calling out CHK as scum at then end of the day...with CHK's vote on you and his promise to case me, he would make an easy WIFOM target for both of us...

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I know you were mostly just doing Wagon Analysis, but why didn't you include me in your list? Afterall, I did push for GNR really heavily.

yeh, i was looking for scum on the wagon...but if you're feeling a little left out:
you were originally against a GNR lynch....you only pushed on GNR after he name-claimed, which is understandable...you then backed off and chucked it up as probably bad play on his part...so i wouldn't necessarily say you "pushed real heavily" on him...

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@MOD : please note that i will be taking my usual V/LA for the weekend..starting in approx 3 hours.

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Lol..Dry.... did you not read?
Vi doesn't have a kill. ..

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Well.. considering its only five to lynch....
Dry was already talking about having you as a follow-up to me so could be that Toogs is trying to take advantage of it.
And Mew's vote almost seems half-ass to me...

Like i said, I think there's a better chance at catching scum on the wagon from yesterday than off..
And i think the is are pretty good with at least one of girth or toogs...I'd be willing to change my vote over to Toogs...

unvote :
Vote: Toogs

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no...pretty sure he's at L-1
and there's a vote count at the top of the page there, so not really sure how you would miss that..

care to claim, D3x?

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ahhh..you damn ninja, you...

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I want sword or d3x lynched today. Arc is town.

oh, you...

Just curious....why exactly, is Arc is town?
what do you think of Toogs and Girth?

and are D3x and i your only scumreads?

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Arc, no offense, but you say that about everybody who argues with you....

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Monkey was getting enough suspicion his way D1 that anyone on the D2 Monkey wagon is potentially scum bussing to get towncred

swords is the only one not on the Monkey wagon plus he's voting one of my town reads

best of both worlds for you...scum if i am, scum if i'm not....

And my other two are cross-voting so idk wtf to think about that.

Convenient that you forgot about the game you and i

just came out of

where Arc and her fellow scum mate went at it by counterclaiming and bussing each other hard as soon as she replaced in.


c'mon Fitz, you're better than this...

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Arc...Arc...Arc....
tell me how this is not relevent, please:

Fitz, just came from a game where you replaced in as scum and you and your scum mate immediately proceeded to bus each other hard...counterclaiming each other, etc....
Now Fitz saying that he doesn't know what to think of you and D3x cross-voting each other...you and D3x , who he thinks could be scum...considering he just saw you do this as scum in the last game...

What i'm saying is Fitz' reasoning here doesn't make sense (if he sees you as scum) then he shouldn't be worried that you would cross vote your buddy considering you just did this) and it honestly seems pretty lazy to me...if q21 hadn't crumbed the way he did i would be voting for Fitz now, in fact...

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I think you’re just giving too much thinking to this…
Please don’t mix things here… The game you, me and FITZ came from is completely a different situation… don’t try mix the situations becuz there aren’t the same becuz the roles aren’t the same.

That's where you are wrong...it would be the same situation...
Fitz claims to be town.
Fitz sees you as scum.
Fitz sees D3x as scum.
Fitz says he doesn't know what to think of you and D3x cross-voting each other.

Last game:
You were scum.
you actively bussed your scum mate and he in turn counter-claimed and cross-voted you.

So, why would he think you and your scum mate wouldn't do it this game as scum if he just saw you guys do it in your last game as scum? There would be no reason for him to be worried about it...

Now as far as Fitz goes, I don't believe he is scum...
but if he is, then Vi would be his partner...

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ugh....i honestly don't even know why i try...

Arc, you obviously don't understand what i am trying to say, so i will stop trying to explain it to you...
the argument isn't directed at you anyway...

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Fitz being turned scum last game has NOTHING to do with this.
Fitz' vote on you last game has NOTHING to do with this.
Only that he was in the last game and that he saw you (as scum) Cross-vote and bus your scum buddy (Phil) matters.

In this game he is saying that he thinks you are scum with D3x (D3x acts as Phil you old scumbuddy in this case)
He is saying he's now not sure about you being scum because you and D3x are cross voting each other.
But he just came from a game where he saw you do exactly this as scum...(you and Phil) now (you and D3x).
So it really shouldn't be a deciding factor like he is saying it is, because you have done it as scum before.

now... as far as D3x goes?
i like him for town...i remember reading his posts and seeing that he had a lot of the same thoughts as me..i tend to associate that with town...

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mainly PoE on the wagon analysis...pretty certain scum would be on GNR's wagon..
of the people on it, Girth and Toogs best fit that spot....
Toog's last vote on D3x could be seen as opportunistic..your vote on me wasn't getting anywhere , and you had actively stated that you wanted D3x lynched as well...After seeing this, Toogs could have thrown a vote on D3x hoping to get a quick wagon going, knowing you'd switch over...which is kind of what happened…

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also

@MOD - i will be my usual V/LA slf this weekend...

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mainly PoE on the wagon analysis...pretty certain scum would be on GNR's wagon..
of the people on it, Girth and Toogs best fit that spot.…

Don't you think that this kind of statement pretty worthless given you were on said wagon ?

Umm...no
I didn't say town wouldn't be on the wagon. ..I said scum most likely would be. ..

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on a serious note, I will say that the GNR wagon most likely has scum on it…

Of those:

Vi is town…as much as I kept going back and forth on her in my mind…she’s town.

q21

/Fitz is also most likely town..people should be able to see this if they look.
Which leaves Toogs and Girth…
Toogs has his ups and downs, and so does Girth..
One or both could be scum..if I had to choose one I’d go Girth

Vote: Girth

@Dry – why don’t you like D3x?

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Ummm...yeh, for me it does....

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How is that derp? I've explained why you and Toogs fit for that spot. ..

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Well we need to figure out a lynch soon. ..
If no one will join me in Toogs or Girth then AA9 would probably be the most sensible lynch. ..
She will be a huge liability for town if she is left alone until lylo... Seeing as she marches to the beat of her own drums...

On my phone but i can go into depth in my reads tomorrow when i am at a computer

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Arc is a big question mark for me...
she is anti-EVERYTHING...i have played a few games with her, and in each game i want to pull my eyes out...
i can't discern her scum game from her town game because her plays make no sense to me...
I do know that she goes after pretty much anyone that attacks her and she votes erratically...this would be bad later down the line, especially in lylo...our last game we thought she was town because we figured there was no way scum would sacrifice themselves that early in the game and leave Arc alone to to carry the torch to scum victory....although, miraculaously, that's what she did...

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ok...
day is ending quick and we are getting nowhere...

i was going to wait until tomorrow (D5) to do this, but:

I have the capabilities of declaring myself a tree stump...the ability makes sense for my character (Lennie from "Of Mice and Men") (i crumbed at the beginning of the day when i told Dry that he was barking up the wrong tree)....i don't mind doing this..and honestly it is probably better to do this sooner rather than later as i very well can't do it during mylo......and i'd hate to have to do it while being rush lynched as it would mainly be a waste and we would get nothing out of it, as the day does not get extended...

so i could attain stump status if you guys like, that way you know my opinions and reasoning are coming from town.

The reason I am claiming now is because I still don’t think D3x is scum…and considering we are looking at what appears to be a last minute rush lynch with the contending wagons on myself, D3x and Arc…I figured we could at least get some discussion going and figure out what’s the best course of action…

So….Discuss……

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Stumps arent confirmed town, right? And crumbing at the beginning of the day isn't really a crumb (not like if you had done so at the beginning of the game). It's just hard to imagine mod having two roles that could be considered conf-town in a game this small if stumps are indeed town aligned.

once i confirm myself i am essentially a dead poster...
as i don't count towards the win condition, nor can i vote...
so town still technically loses a player...i figured it was best for me to wait before i claimed..also seeing as how the day doesn't end when i am turned into a stump, i was trying to wait for a day where it could be beneficial (numbers-wise) for us to be able to confirm me if needed and still be able to lynch...

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My only power is that i have an access to QT that has no one expect me, and I really have no clue what to do with that.

hahaha that is awesome!!
you're supposed to talk to yourself..

schizo's have multiple personalities...

go get angry and yell at yourself in your QT...

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Lol..Arc... you make the perfect schizzo...
And i heart <3 Nexus for making that role. ...

Also. Arc is most likely town. ...

And is it just me or does it seem like town all have pretty useless roles?

Double voter who can't vote on the same person. .. schizzo who has a self QT, tree stump, narrator who adds lines to the night flavor. ..
I'm wondering if there is a pattern in here somewhere. ..

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i'd still not prefer to lynch D3x...

@D3x - i was planning on stumping tomorrow anyway, and also think a MC might be a good idea as well...

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lol...

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V/LA and checking in on my phone, but:

The rabbits we're gonna get and I, I get to tend 'em

Still liking Girth/Venmar and Toogs for scum. ..

Still up for mass claim. .. consider the bolded above mine...

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If Venmar did Commute on night 1, then would Toogs' report on him miss?
Considering commuting pretty much makes a player untargetable...

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Also...still not completely sure on wtf sword's claim is all about and I do not particularly like Arc's claim either

the bolded was my trigger...once Nexus shows up, you will see…
So consider it 6 alive now and still 4 votes to lynch...and we need to make sure we hit scum today.

Meanwhile i knew you were an inventor because your pred slipped in his #720 and pretty much claimed when he gave Viomi the commute she thought it was a kill...
Which meant a couple of things to me:
1. They could be scum together without day talk and she messed up what she was supposed to say in thread and Q21(now Fitz) was correcting her.
2. If Q was town and he gave it to scum Viomi, then she was dense enough not to pick up on his claim…that’s why I said that if she was scum, then it would have to be solo scum...i don’t think she would have left an inventor alive that gives out things like commutes..especially when the kill that night was instead of a narrator…and I would think if she had team mates at least one of them would pick up on it.
4. Q(Fitz) is scum inventor handing out items to townies for town cred. Why give a doc and a commute to town? He gave away his doc (N2) before the Vig was killed, so if anything this would mean that he and Toogs could possibly be scum together..as I doubt scum inventor would give a doc to town, especially when the vig was still running around…

I still think our best option lies within Toogs and Girth/Venmar today…
Based off of their claims at least one of them is lying…and I’m leaning towards Girth/Venmar

Even though my vote doesn’t officially count anymore:

Vote: Venmar

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that's why i need to trigger before lylo..
if i triggered in lylo we would lose...
i don't count as a person, period...
i don't count as a body towards the active wincon, and my vote doesn't count either..
i can still post though...

so today we HAVE to lynch scum...
most likely there are 2 scum left, as i seriously doubt that there are 3 more in this game...

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i have the option to become a tree stump...
my bolded at the beginning of the day was my trigger...

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Also, Venmar :
You claimed commuter.
Toogs claimed reporter.
He stated that he saw you go out on N1.
You say you commuted N1.
If you commuted, then he shouldn't have been able to target you.
So one of you is lying.

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Viomi...why did you target Fitz ?
you seriously did not know he was an inventor?
considering he's the one that told you that you were wrong about getting a kill?

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again...WHY did you target Fitz?

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that's ok you don't have to like me...even though i am mod-confirmed town...

from yesterday:

I don't think anyone is really scummy, a slight scum smell from D3X but that's about it.
also, process of elimination since we have a bunch of pretty much confirmed towns,

my bet is scum is in D3X or girth.

VOTE: D3X

well we lynched D3x....
why not cop Girth?

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I no longer thought he was scummy.

wow...really?
considering that was near the end of yesterday when you said that, and Girth didn't post anywhere after you...
what exactly changed your mind?

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ok...so you're saying you ISO'd him overnight and changed your mind, then decided on Fitz...
since it's recent enough you should remember, so what made you change your mind about Girth, specifically?

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where have you been the last page or so , Arc?
i've already hit her up on her target...
She said she targetted Fitz...which honestly , i don't like...considering at the end of the day she was stating that she thought scum was in D3x or Girth (Venmar)...her excuse for not copping Girth was that she re-read his ISO during the night and found him town...\
Although she won't say what specifically made her think that...

tbh I'm really cool with lynching Arc at the moment, shitty useless at LyLO and also her role is "I get a QT with myself" which i find rather hard to believe.

We are most likely in mylo right now, Viomi...so it's a little late for that...

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@Fitz: read #1143 in case you missed it...

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Viomi could definitely be scum...rolecop is mainly a scum role anyways...she could have bussed Monkey for cred... seeing as Monkey was already under heavy suspicion, it wouldn't have been hard.... i still don't like the fact that she messed up her gifted "commute" with a kill... For someone who says she has played on this site before and is back as an alt, you would think she would know what a commute is…
not only that, she accidentally mixed up her claim of role-cop with that of a doctor… it was small thing, but it’s there nonetheless:

ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING STUPID
You voted a rolecop to see if I'm scum. Are you retarded.
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I hate you all.
I am Tyrion Lannister from A song of Ice and Fire.
If we lynch monkey, and he's town, then you kill me tomorrow.

WHY THE HELL WOULD SCUM CLAIM DOCTOR TO GET A SINGLE LYNCH?????

God I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots.

To me, she’s almost coming off as nervous scum..and her yelling at everyone saying how bad everyone else is only makes me suspect her more…

@Toogs…
If I still had my vote, I would change it over to Viomi…

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in the post i provided above already bolded...she said why would scum claim "doctor" , not why would scum claim "rolecop"

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@VI, real quickly...what was the wording that you got on Fitz last night?

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@Toogs...it's up in the air atm, as everyone is all over the place..

But, gonna go with:

T --> S

1. Toogs -

honestly thought you could be a scum tracker however, your night choices and reasons do make sense..i also shortly entertained the idea of you being scum with Fitz (since he gave you the doc while the vig was still running around) but that would probably mean Vi was your partner as well, and if there were 3 scum left, then it's pretty much auto-lose anyway...so yeh..i'm keeping you head townie for now.

2. Arc -

as much as i hate to say it, she's most likely town (or possibly 3rd party survivor) i have seen her pull some zany things, but i believe her claim (god help me)...it also makes her VT slip plausible...and if she is scum this game, then i'll give her major props for fooling me twice and that her feigned cluelessness is a damn fine perfected art...

3. Mew (now Penguin) -

honestly had him as town for the longest time, although his lurkiness today had really started to worry me...

4. Fitz –

if Fitz is scum, then Vi would most likely be his partner..i admit I got a little worried about him after I stumped when he was asking about what happens at lylo..i thought maybe him, Vi , and Toogs were scum together (based on the Night actions) and I had just blown the game for town…

5. Girth (now Ven) –

I had Girth as scum based on PoE and VCA and admittedly Fitz would make a better partner for Vi…however, Viomi could have helped push a mislynch on Girth today without any repercussions, but instead she defended him…making me think that I might be right about him being scum.

6. Viomi –

I’ll get into more detail with her in a bit as I am pretty sure she is scum…waiting on her response to my question…

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well...Viomi broke the rule way back in her 811...
i'm surprised she didn't get a warning way back then...
that's why i thought she might be lying about her role...

but yeh..i played a real crap game this time around....

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@Nexus -
i thought the schizo role with their own QT is hilariously bad-ass...

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i agree...and she was the perfect person to have that role too...it would have been a fun read...