Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[Slandaar]

It isn't, yeah. The burden of proof IS yours after all, and you still have to show that scum -- and TML specifically -- do pull 'last ditch distancing attempts'.

And when I do that means I have proven you are blue scum?

[Slandaar]

Nope that doesn't make sense; I can still be right.

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That is exactly what I am saying and no, you can't.[/quote]
Wind: I am the expert on TML meta

Wind has not used TML meta once to try to work out final bluescum

???

[Slandaar]

Also the main point is clearly;

Albus said TML hadn't voted Edo when he said he would; very soon after TML shows up and votes Edo with a very similar post to the one in which he voted thez, the 2 posts compare well and then compare them to the other posts he made with votes, difference is huge.

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ie by Albus saying TML hadn't voted Edo, TML thought it would look like a connection when he died so he voted in a last ditch distancing attempt.

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Nope. Add logic to your list of things to learn about some day.

Oh

How do I prove it then?

[Slandaar]

WIFOM. As bluescum why wouldn't I be all over that right now?

Ah the WIFOM argument. Yes. Good.

The very fact that you are using bluescum's interactions with my slot not in conjunction with my slots interactions with bluescum shows how bad you are.

Play nice windy!

@Sixx
I find it odd that your strongest town reads are the two of the most influential people in the game. Are you sure you aren't just assuming they're town and just putting them there? What about others? Surely you must have a stronger townread on other people who aren't called town by everyone else.

This kind of post you are talking about?

If Edo thought this as town; why would Sixxscum be assuming they were town? he would know.

Its almost like... scum scumEdo assumed it was multiball and Edo is his buddy isn't it?

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That last line such a mess whatever it should be; scumEdo assumed it was multiball and Sixx is his buddy isn't it?

[Slandaar]

When is deadline or isn't there one?

[Slandaar]

If mcqueen was blue scum, why wasn't he hammered yesterday? Since I know I'm not red scum, there had to be minimum one red scum off the wagon working with mcqueen as blue, possibly and more likely in that scenario two, since I believe you're town.

This doesn't really matter scum don't always do what you expect because they don't want you to catch them.

I mean you and I both know at least one person bussed yesterday why not both red?

I havn't really decided who is red since I did some rethinking but still point remains.

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Edosurist was clearly asking a rhetorical question.

It reads rhetorical until you read the rest where he was clearly asking a serious question at which point you can see he is scum.

[Slandaar]

Look everyone just trust me and vote Wind-up this day is dragging; trust in Slandaar.

[Slandaar]

Thanks

Its getting annoying noone else actually posts anything

Now lets lynch Wind up

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Thats why I assumed its PV yes but I think hes town

Lynch Wind-up

[Slandaar]

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Become the image PV

Don't think; Just sheep.

[Slandaar]

Option 1: Think about things for hours on end, toss and turn in your sleep about the tough decision to be made, read and reread the thread and then vote wrong and realise how much time you wasted.
Option 2: Sheep Slandaar and if he is wrong blame him.

Clearly option 2 is best, what is the hold up here?

[Slandaar]

OK I am going to make this really simple

Sorry it took a while. Lunch + listening to Colbert's interview on NPR cut up my reading. I.E., life.

Here are my reads I feel I should point out, ordered in the strength I believe in them:

Sixx - I'm just going to nod and say yes. Yes.

SCUM

PM - I don't feel like scum PM would do IIoA. Too blatant.

TOWN

Dumbledore - Opportune votes, especially his vote on thez. His interaction with thez feels scummy.

LEANS SCUM

thez - If Dumbledore is scum, thez is scum. Otherwise, I was getting a slight town read because of the recklessness at the start of the game. Scum wouldn't be that reckless.

LEANS TOWN

TML - He's a lot less inquisitive than he was in a game I recently played with him in which he was a mason. In that game, he seemed overly careful at times, which I'm not seeing now. Assuming he'd play similar as scum, he's likely town.

LEANS TOWN

JS - Credit goes to my gut for now. It's been good in the past, I feel inclined to trust it now.

LEANS SCUM

Jal - Mainly, we share similar reads. Town will work for now.

WEAK TOWN

NJ - He's not being very pro-town.

WEAK SCUM

Arc - I don't particularly agree with the wagon, but she's not town to me.

NULL

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With that said and done,
VOTE: Sixx

Sixx: Bus
Thez: waffle waffle if dumbledore (town) is scum thez scum otherwise town (set up dumbledore their interaction reads scummy only dumbledore takes the scum credit; this whole section makes no sense)
TML: waffle waffle playing different to how he was as a mason

He has all 3 known blue scum in this list of NINE people; that is kinda coincidental; And one is a yes yes scum (no reasoning - the only read with none) and the other 2 are the waffles in the post.

[Slandaar]

PV reads town because he challenged me too much

Scum don't do that like ever once I take over the town because they don't want to encourage me to lynch them they want to leave me on my path.

Lynch Windup.

[Slandaar]

Less than 2 days

You all need to vote. I have shown you Wind is blue; do what you want.

[Slandaar]

Please kill Jal Wind

We need redscum to die tonight.

[Slandaar]

AA's is the game over has to be redscum. So that is the lynch today and there shouldnt be a debate on it.

She thought red won when someone other than red was lynched and could only assume this if she knew before flip it wasn't red who was lynched.

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Obviously she thought game is over if it isnt clear because red has the vote thing.

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i want Jal or Slaandar (who ever is the last town left in them) come and vote penguin....
wind up, please don't vote until Jal or Slaandar puts their vote. i don't want we have someone town put a vote on wrong person so that the two scum sheep immediately.

OK so this is scum

AA dies today.

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VOTE: AA

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VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (11): BirdAndBeast, The Mini-Librarian, Edosurist, Baby Spice, ArcAngel9, Skyhook, ? ×5

ArcAngel9 (1): thezmon221
Bumi (1): Aj The Epic
jmj3000 (1): PeregrineV
MattP (6): curiouskarmadog, Boniface, Jal, njoseph, Albus Dumbledore, Darthe
Not voting (6): Bumi, JacobSavage, jmj3000, MattP, UVApe

With

20

alive, it takes

11

players to lynch.

Your discussion about who has a reason for the Midnight Racing Club to be put out of existence is interrupted by machine gun fire. You run out to the scene of the shooting and find Bailey Smith's bloodied body limp in her 2003 Renault Clio V6. The killer got clean away, too. You decide to give her a funeral and end the day right there.

Aj The Epic, who was

Bailey Smith, the driver of a 2003 Renault Clio V6 and a vanilla townie

, has been executed on Day 2.

Night 2 ends in (expired on 2013-01-29 19:26:37).

[Slandaar]

The question is; how did you not know about this earlier?

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Hey Wind

If you vote AA I might consider you town but only if you are the second vote.

[Slandaar]

AA why isn't wind scum again?

also; lol.

[Slandaar]

I am not scum.

So you need an actual reason.

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Yes vanished without an answer

Didn't answer that question last time I asked either.

[Slandaar]

Look its really simple;
Why is Penguin red and not Wind?

[Slandaar]

OK Let me show you very clearly what I am asking you AA;

DeasVail

(6):

PeregrineV

,

Allyra

, Jal,

wind-up

,

Lurker

, ArcAngel9

wind-up

(4):

Slandaar, penguin_alien

,

Darthe

,

DeasVail

You are assuming the above

Why can't this be the case:

DeasVail

(6):

PeregrineV

,

Allyra

, Jal,

wind-up

,

Lurker

, ArcAngel9

wind-up

(4):

Slandaar, penguin_alien

,

Darthe

,

DeasVail

And you need to explain this very very fast if you are town. This is your whole reasoning for calling Penguin scum afterall.

[Slandaar]

The other scum had to bus one or the other in bottom scenario; but the point is; why can't windup be scum? why are you assuming that he is town?

[Slandaar]

Thats what you got from my post?

There are more scenarios than those 2; they just show the huge hole in her logic which was the whole point of the post.

Why don't you vote someone Wind?

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UNVOTE: AA

Won't be around for a bit.

So, heres what everyone needs to do; name the 2 people they think are scum.

I will start: AA/Wind.

[Slandaar]

OK last post for a while

Today should be slow because things have changed; the scum now know they are making cases on town which is a huge psychological shift from previously where they were scumhunting.

[Slandaar]

So, you didn't answer my question; again.

Why?

[Slandaar]

OK so how about you show me the reasons why Penguin is redscum.

[Slandaar]

OK

Now, why can't Wind be redscum?

[Slandaar]

explain 3080 to me; why can't he be red from it?

also; why do you think I am scum?

[Slandaar]

3533 is wrong btw.

The 2 scum still need to be online together; or you can be scum of course.

[Slandaar]

I didn't ignore it.

I need you if you are town to explain this stuff to me. Start with 3534

[Slandaar]

I am town. This is fact.

If you are town and want to lynch Penguin you need to convince me to vote her. I am giving you the chance to explain why you think what you think; 3536 is not an acceptable response.

[Slandaar]

For the same reason that I am TOWN, which leaves two town and two scums left out there... if Penguin is town, the two scums would have jumped into the wagon and taken down the victory which confirms me Penguin as the scum.

OK lets assume this is true you are town. I don't know this only you and scum do; so it is irrelevant to my decision making I must figure this out for myself which is what I am trying to do.

Too bad that you're not willling to believe me but you're believed penguin, you mentioned that penguin as Townie, I have had asked you reason why and you never reponsded to them and now you expecting me to give reasons for why i think Wind-up is not red scum.

I asked you for a specific reason and I very much want the answer to it.

If you are town your goal should be to convince the other townies (ie me) that Penguin is red and you are town. To do this I want you to answer my question as best you can.

I no longer care what wind-up or rest of you..becuz its evident to me that Penguin is the one of the last two surviving RED scums and Lynching her would secure the TOWN WIN. And I will stick to that.

No it wouldn't secure a town win.

[Slandaar]

read ^ line.. Explain me how it

would not

secure the Town win

Because even if Penguin were lynched and flipped scum there is still another scum so the victory is far from secured.

[Slandaar]

I explained how penguin is the scum and you agreed i don't why you're ranting how i feel about Wind up, He is not my priority at this moment.
My only target is to get the red sum, Penguin is the confrimed SCUM and i have no doubt in it. I can bet my life. With that said, I don't care who is the next RED scum, I just need the other two townies to see Penguin how I see her and help me lynching her.

That is all, you are you being stuborn in want me to repeat stuff which i already explained. PENGUIN is scum, If you're townie put your vote her right now or just hang in there becuase your SCUM.

I didn't actually agree I just wanted to see the reasoning.

Now just explain that one post; what is in it which makes Wind Not Red?

[Slandaar]

that's what i thought. your'e the next scum then!!!!
votePenguin and i tell you about Wind up

No.

Convince me to vote Pengin; explain about Wind.

[Slandaar]

What is the connection between convience you about voting Penguin has with Windup!!

It is very likely only one of them is scum

I think windup is scum.

So, to convince me Penguin is scum you need to convince me wind isn't

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I don't have to prove you what is Wind up when you never explained how Penguin is town to you....

Thinks similar to how I did re things after DV lynch.

Hope that helped you.

You can now explain the wind-up stuff.

the way penguin wagon dried up with no votes explains that she is one of the RED scum and i don't understand why you kept ignoring to that point.

Or you are scum, or both scum have not been on at the same time (which would be Jal/Wind)

its feels like you're doing it intentionally and testing my patience going over in circles about WIND up.

For what gain? I want to figure out what is going on and the best chance of that is if people answer my questions.

Listen to me your 2nd SCUM, I am not playing little shit games anymore.

I am town.

If you don't freaking believe PENGUIN is the RED SCUM THAT MAKES YOU HER SCUM BUDDY.

No it doesn't even if Penguin were scum it doesn't mean anything close to that.

[Slandaar]

Wind are you town?

[Slandaar]

Wind I have more very vital questions for you to answer! Remember: lying is a sin!

Are you scum?
Do you think I am scum?
Did you actually meta Penguin and AA? What were your findings?

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Why do you think Jal is town?

Oh and Wind... are you scum?

[Slandaar]

Well whatever I have decided to vote AA tomorrow.

Just going to leave it for any last minute arguments but don't think my mind can be changed.

[Slandaar]

Unfortunately ArcAngel your arguments have not convinced me. However, a lot of points were put forward in the last 24 hours, I have considered them all and luckily for you everyone else's arguments especially Wind-ups have swayed me in this time and so the conclusion I have come to is thus;

VOTE: Penguin

[Slandaar]

What happened?

I already decided a long time ago I was voting Penguin

Wind up, I am not the scum, if you're town, You will need to believe that...
Slandaar and penguin are the last scums, I have slightest doubt on Slandaar but penguin is the confirmed red scum

if you're town, don't make this mistake, check the way slandaar is protecting penguin all the time, how could he wouldn't think a possibility of her being scum, this explains to you more that why they both can be scum buddies.

Slaandar and Penguin will do anything to twist my words, like the way now he is complaining that i am vanished... they will going to convert everything small thing scummy to make me look bad and earn town vote...

check my meta and how i play as town, Jal would know this already...
Slaadaar and penguin also knows my game play, and they knew very well that i wont give up with out a fight.


So, if you're town, this is our only chance of winning, don't ruin it please. Follow your instincts!!!!

Appeals to Windup; AA and wind are therefore not buddies which is what I had previously thought.

Hey guess when I unvoted? Yeah right after this post.

[Slandaar]

Do you think I am scum?

not sure

I am confident that Jal is 100% town.

Then who are the scum?

Penguin/AA? really?

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My post is regarding posts before his is relevant.

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Also look at the amazing increase in activity since I voted and before when I said I would vote AA not one post in like 24 hours except from AA/Myself

Hilarious

It was a reaction test btw, one the scum failed.