Lord of The Rings Mafia - Game End

[Miss Subliminal]

VOTE: Amrun
There can only be one

alpha-bitch

, bitch.

[Miss Subliminal]

*rubs Gollum's belly*

[Miss Subliminal]

MY RING MY RING!!! WHERE IS IT?!?!

You lost it AGAIN?

Our hero is hopelessly outnumbered by these foreign creatures on this strange planet. Spiff observes their strange customs and takes aim at the first ominous figure he spots.

VOTE: MonkeyMan576

This is awesome

hot sex

posting.

HEY GUYS SO

HOT SEX

Three Win Conditions:
You win if all the forces of Sauron are destroyed and you have the one ring.
You win if all the forces of Sauron are destroyed and the one ring is destroyed.
You win if the forces of Sauron are the only survivors or nothing can prevent the same.
All three win conditions are mutually exclusive as if the first win condition is fulfilled the ring leaves the game unable to ever be destroyed.

So. All WinCons are mutually exclusive.
Ours is the second.
Unlike the last game where Gollum had free reign and could win with us, HE CANNOT.
Emp says mutually exclusive.
So that means Gollum (the hypothetical role) and us cannot cooperate.
Just throwing that out there. We can't all hold hands and skip through the daisies together.

Sauron is destroyed, the one ring somehow survives, and you end up with it. What do you choose to do with it and what would you hope to accomplish by doing so?

I CAST IT INTO THE FIRE.
Or wear it, depending on if it will accentuate my outfit or not.

I know the lore. It's a work of fiction.

If you really know the lore then you'd know its not a fantasy but a

history

.

vote: Miss Subliminal

so you are scum, right?

Try again.

Venrob's posting style annoys me.
And doesn't help at all.

and then OMGUS!
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Amrun

Why.
Why are you doing this.

I went ahead and meta'd since he pushed it to the point of ridiculousness just 26 posts into the game. Posts like a madman D1as scum. Has a fairly conservative D1 as town.

VENROB

Can we do this please? There's plenty wrong here and Amrun_scum isn't one of them.

Unvote, Vote: Venrob

Now noticing: waynegg. Post 20? no contribution. Next page? Pushing at me. I will note that i will claim if neccesary to prevent my lynch.
*checks role pm*

Dude.
Its PAGE TWO.
WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED.
There is NO REASON to even BRING UP claiming THIS EARLY when you just said so YOURSELF that we just got out or RVS.
Seriously.
This guy just reads as SUPERANTSY.

Aragon, the rightful king of Gondor.

False. You're missing a letter.
And why the HELL ARE YOU CLAIMING THIS EARLY.

Anyone else feel like dodging waynegg's question before we lynch this scum?

The useless flavor one?
Don't see a reason to dodge it.
Still think lynching this scum is on the menu.

Unnoff Vote Count 1.1
Gollum (2) MonkeyMan, alienBRO
Waynegg (1) Gollum
Amrun (1) MissSubliminal
MissSubliminal (1) ToastyToast
Venrob (3) Amrun, Waynegg, Spiff

Venrob is most votes, at L-5!

14 alive, so 8 to lynch.

Yeah this guy is in PANICMODE.
Do you not like pushy women?
Do you like them meek?

Why is Master waynegg so anxious to get the night?

Why are you calling him master?

I'm here,

Vote Miss Subliminal

For reasons.

Sorry, the 2014 Miss MafiaScum pageant is in Forum62. Try again! ;D
But seriously reasons?

Also we need to lynch Toast sometime before I die because I haven't had that

pleasure

yet.

-Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

Seriously, all I get out of the last two pages is that Amrun is town, and Venrob is in PANICMODE like no other.
Which at this point, probably means antsyscum.

[Miss Subliminal]

Yeah I was actually wondering about that. How is the ring taken out of the game?

Town gets the ring and chooses to destroy it.
Or use it as a Cop investigation but we eliminate SOMEONE by destroying it so that's what I'd do.

I'd state my reasons, but I don't want somebody to see them. very simple

Okayyyyyyyyyyy

No, I'm in 'I want this game to go quickly and end in town win' mode, the quick part being i have a large theme i want to mod but i need to be familiar with large theme's first, so this game should fulfill that requirement. The town win part obv cuz im town.

Preeeeetty sure that's now how it works but ok.
Doesn't help your case at all.

-Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

I'd state my reasons, but I don't want somebody to see them. very simple

So, it's a

subliminal

message?

You called?

Quick town win mode: i want the game to end quick so i can run my large theme, i am town so i want town win. Quick is for out-of-game reasons, town wins is cuz i am town.

Okay problems with this.
1) There is no "quick town win mode" that doesn't involve scumhunting and generally doing what you're not.
2) You playing on a Large Theme doesn't magically allow you to run a LTgame if I understand the queue correctly.
3) We're not going to rush through this game just so you can mod a game. There is nothing wrong with waiting when impatient people who want to rush the queue are on the line.

Not sure how all this applies to this game, as I try not to be too wrapped up in flavor. It wouldn't surprise me if Sauron could see who uses it though since it can be passed around, so it's probably a good idea to pass it after using it to keep the easy victory from Sauron. To that end, townhunting will possibly be of even more importance than usual.

tl;dr - If you receive The One Ring destroy it immediately. It removes an entire WinCon from the game by doing so.

p.s. When the time comes for a lynch we need to organize a designated Hammer wielder to avoid letting someone come in an hammer in the hopes of getting the treasure.

Oh... and I skimmed Subliminal catch up post with all it's quotations but noticed at the end... she didn't vote? Seemed like you had reads and you pushed against certain people but you didn't vote. Odd. What are you waiting for?

No we voted- we're voting Venrob, just like you.

Nights give scum a kill, which gives us INFO. Day start is a blind day, where town kills itself. Not town, but scum. Daystart and nightstart are both scum. Nightstart, we get INFO.

There is plenty of info to be gained while we're here.
For starters there are idiots like you who claim prematurely so that's something we wouldn't have gotten if we did NightStart. (Sorry but there was NO REASON FOR THAT CLAIM.)

-Miss ;D


predits:

This is blatantly false. Town lynches scum day 1 at an above-expected rate if it were random.

-Bro

Did not know. Given scum are still a minority I'm not sure how exacty we lynch them more often RANDOMLY.

You asking people to meta you, just appears scummy to me.

This.

[Miss Subliminal]

Way too fast and way too easy. More later

UNVOTE

There was not a SINGLE VOTE in between your previous post and this.

UNVOTE:
However much spiff is scum the others need to get on and post and stuff before a lynch can happen, we can't hop from wagon to wagon. (in response to seeing 2 spiff votes on 1 page after none)

What happened to superfastlynchtownwinnighthappenmode?

[Miss Subliminal]

Discussing Spiff's 136 with my other head. Seems like a non-town claim to me.

[Miss Subliminal]

like omg I totes didn't forget

my dad sucks

the gimmick ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

No, but there was a vote count.

Why not unovote after Monkey's 125?

After everything else he's done, I don't want to believe Venrob's claim, but it does fit with the flavor, which he has told us multiple times that he does not know. I don't think that someone would make up Aragorn/Poison doctor if they didn't know the flavor.

Do you know what a mod-provided fakeclaim is?

[Miss Subliminal]

We're discussing a few things as a hydra, namely how to play as a hydra and not both of us posting separately from one account.

-Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

We're discussing a few things as a hydra, namely how to play as a hydra and not both of us posting separately from one account.

-Miss ;D

Shut up you whore

<3

[Miss Subliminal]

So we had a long talk last night

Skype sex

and I decided that I won't be doing as much posting in order to keep this from a TWO PEOPLE POSTING FROM ONE ACCOUNT since that's what we've been doing. We'll do more discussion and make it so that there's only one set of reads because hydras they contradict themselves

are not hot sex

drive me up a wall.

I'm going to relook at Spiff because SK wants me to and I'm going to type up some ANGRYWORDS for Venrob.

Unvote

He is town, but that doesn't clear him of being a derp.

- Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

I have manyangry words for Venrob and I apologize in advance because things can get ugly.
Yes, he's like, 94.5% town but DAMN son.
I didn't know Furcolow came back to the site.
ANYWHO

Discussing Spiff's 136 with my other head. Seems like a non-town claim to me.

yes, and vote with me for great justice okay

Hi Amrun.
I still don't see it but SKrew does so we're currently having DISCUSSIONS.

After everything else he's done, I don't want to believe Venrob's claim

This.

but it does fit with the flavor, which he has told us multiple times that he does not know. I don't think that someone would make up Aragorn/Poison doctor if they didn't know the flavor.

This.

Going to do some digging into Empmod in a bit.

His ISO looks the scummiest IMO. Particularly this quote. Unstatable reasons=Lack of reasons.

I'm sorry this is weird- how did you get to this conclusion? Did you just ISO everyone or what?
I REALLY don't like your delivery here.

Why would you want to remove the ring from play immediately when it obviously only benefits scum to do so as it eliminates the town's investigation tool? Same question to Spiff.

Ok let's break it down.
We don't actually know who has the first win condition, and we don't actually know the size of that faction. Yes, its most likely GOLLUM and he's most likely alone but this is Empmod so a certain level of CRAZINESS should be expected. That being said, here's my case on WHY.
1) You assume that it is, actually, a tool for town.


ASK BOROMIR. Let's do flavor because hey, its me, and I have a bit

more than a bit

of background on this.

Boromir: "It is a gift. A gift to the foes of Mordor. Why not use this Ring? Long has my father, the Steward of Gondor, kept the forces of Mordor at bay. By the blood of our people are your lands kept safe! Give Gondor the weapon of the enemy. Let us use it against him!"

Aragorn: "You cannot wield it! None of us can. The One Ring answers to Sauron alone. It has no other master."

You are assuming that using the ring (for good) has no consequences, and that the scum have no way of finding it.

Yes, it is a tool for town. However, it also must be protected and kept away from the scumbags. It is a sane cop investigation. But it depends on secrecy and you better believe that scum have a way of finding it.
If it does start in the hands of town (as it sure as hell makes no sense starting in WC1's hands) town are faced with the option of using the ring or destroying it.
And we all know what happens to good people who use the ring.

Galadriel: "The Ring came to the creature Gollum, who took it deep into the tunnels of the Misty Mountains. And there, it consumed him."

So yes. Use it if you want. But we cannot win without destroying it. You say I'm scum for wanting to insta-get rid of the other scumfaction. You forget there is town motivation for wanting a scum faction dead! What is that, you ask? WE GET RID OF A GODDAMN SCUM FACTION. That's more than we'll be able to do actually using The One Ring. So there are 15 players, and let's operate under the pretense that Gollum is indeed WC1 and is alone.
That's a 1 in 13 chance of finding him N1. (13 because you won't investigate yourself and the D1 Lynchee is, well, obviously dead at this point.)
Or you destroy the ring and, 100%, eliminate non-town players from the game.

Mathematically it does way more good for us to destroy it instantly. Guaranteed. Dead. Scum.
How is that in any way, shape or form, worse than randomly taking crapshots at scum?

Yeah. So CLEARLY I have scum motivation for wanting scum dead. Yeah. Because there's no way town wouldn't want to have scum dead instantly. Okay wayne.

Oh, and:

I was busy at work

You're never busy.

@MOD What happens when you use the ring's investigation? Do you continue holding it? Is it destroyed when you use it? Is it passed to whomever you investigate? Other?

If the answer is anything but the ring is destroyed it should be used for an investigation tonight. Reason being if it is destroyed we should save it for when we REALLY need it.

There's this thing.
Its called the rules.
Go read them.
Do that and try again.

Are you saying that you have the ring now? If so it would probably be wise to pass it since you've painted yourself.

Or he could, you know, destroy it and save us an AGE of hell.

This sounds all well and good, but it also sets up kill targets for scum who would want to take the ring out of play prematurely. I'd be more interested in letting lynches happen and see who hammers and how. More informative that way.

Well yes.
My thing was only in comment to the GET A FEMALE TO HAMMER because that's clearly a smart choice too!

Unvote

I don't want to see too many claims d1, but Venrob, Spiff, and Sublime are my scumreads.

Elaborate for me.

I do not have the ring, I simply wish to know what the mechanic is. Due to the fact that if in using the investigation either the ring is destroyed or it is a 1-shot investiagation we should not use the investigation until we are sure we need it, which will probably be lategame.

SERIOUSLY.
READ
THE
OP

DEATHNOTE.
HOW DO YOU NOT BUY THAT CLAIM
Scumpoints because seriously what isn't there to buy about it.
How is that faked at all? The implications of that claim are enough to suggest its not fake.

5 hour pause in activity is not fun, PEOPLE NEED TO POST yes i am impatient.

Fuck off.

We're discussing a few things as a hydra, namely how to play as a hydra and not both of us posting separately from one account.

-Miss ;D

Shut up you whore

<3

Bitch please.

also PAGEGRAB for no reason

@Spaceman, I hide the info from Subliminal herself.

Because that is clearly helping everyone here.

Subliminal, why the fuck isn't your vote on Spiff after that shit earlier?

BECAUSE IM BUSY SHEESH

Unvote, for now...lol
Vote Maverick

Would like more activity out of this one.

This is bad. Scumpoints.

Hey guys promise to post tomorrow (hold me to it--if i don't, vote me).
Food Poisoning+Airplane=no fun.

I can vouch that this happened.

Yeah robert shoots up the scumdar.

1) I just got out of a game where we lynched a 5 man scum team in the first 6 days. None of these happened because of an investigation. We don't NEED the ring. Have you ever seen the movies? The whole point is to destroy it despite the temptation of power.

IT WAS YOU WAYNE.
DONT YOU DARE CALLE ME OUT FOR CONSIDERING A HAMMERER
WHEN YOU DID THE FEMALE HAMMERS ONLY
DONT EVEN

Yeah um.
This is me confirming that Toast had foodpoisoning two days ago.

that Asian woman looks delicious. Our belly rumbles with hunger.

hahahahahahaha

You might have to complete with Toast- she's a redhead.

@wayne: you're focusing waaaay too much on scummotivation here.
Again, good town motives for destroying it.
DEAD SCUM
AND THATS ALL I WANT
IS TO GO BACK TO MY HOLE IN THE GROUND
AND CONTINUE TO EAT, SMOKE, DRINK, AND LOVE LIKE A GODDAMN HOBBIT
SO LETS KILL SCUM AND GET BACK HOME PLS

The most important thing here, though, is moving to establish a designated hammer person.

The entire rest of this paragraph is stupid because you move to do the EXACT. SAME. THING. with your FEMALE HAMMERS PLS. Oh, and yours involved a bit more ROLEFISHING than mine. I was considering the merits of a TOWNIEHAMMER. You took this to WOMEN ONLY PLS

Problem with that is it makes Andy or his suggestion the most likely to be designated as that hammer.

Yo. I don't WANT the ring. Cop investigations are way too complicated and stressful.
I want guaranteeddeadscum, not RANDOMSHOTATDEADSSCUM

Andy is great with these subtle psych-ops as evidenced by just how many people he's snowing right now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You called me subtle.
And you, uh, clearly think I'm awesome as scum. Ask anyone- I'm easy to catch.

NOW ACT FUCKING MATURE AND PLAY RIGHT, OR REPLACE OUT.

Read this yourself.

TOWN
Venrob
Amrun
Toast
gollum
alienBRO

SCUM
Robert2424
Spiff <--- SK
DN
who

- Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

Scum don't posit pro-scum plans on purpose. I've NEVER seen that happen in all my time as mafia.

For the love of God, how did I miss this earlier?

Andy does.

He crumbs everything scum or town.

I haven't crumbed yet this game.

Use it two-three nights and popcorn to best town reads (or conf town) every day.

We'd still be more likely to get scum by destroying it.
SIMPLE. MATH.

I take the pause in posting to confer with your other head to have significance. I'm sure you're weaker scum game would be getting some help, so yeah there's that.

Hydraing actually makes me a worse player. Trufax.

B) Here is my random lightbulb moment. Flavor-wise, both Sauron and the wringwraiths (all NINE of them) can sense when anyone puts on the ring

That's a good fucking point.

Also, your females hammer thing is EXACTLY the same, but even worse, because it outs someone's role AND dictates who hammers.

THANK YOU.

Yes I did. And I felt that his, where he had posted a lot but contributed nothing, and said that he had "unstatable reasons" seemed the scummiest.

Well.
That helps.

And according to the first post, only Sauron's forces (WC3) are the "scum".

Anything that isn't town is scum.

- Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

Andy said...

This is me confirming that Toast had foodpoisoning two days ago.

And I don't doubt that. When I'm sick and have nothing else to do, Internet is a good time killer. Also, most of my morning posts come from the throne, so picture that next time you're reading them

And also, how exactly are you confirming this? Scum QT or by some other means?

He's an IRL friend of mine who I introducted to this site back when I was playing in BNM.
I dropped him off at the airport on Thursday.

-Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

omg I'm actually caught up
First off UNVOTE: no clue why Andy didn't do that yet.
I agree with Andy's townreads and would like to add that I think Amrun and Toasty are SUPEROBVTOWN.
I have not discussed Spiff with Andy beyond simply saying "look at this post it is scum, no?" to which he responded "uh I don't see it?" because I haven't had much time for Mafia (which is why I asked him to hydra instead of going solo). We think that wayne is RingScum because of how badly he wants to keep it in play. This does not warrant a vote, because whoever has it can just DESTROY IT and then we don't have to worry about RingScum anymore.
Going to discuss more with Andy (and reread Spiff's post) before throwing down a vote. I'm liking Toasty's case on DN, and Robert is still... well yeah.

[Miss Subliminal]

But after I read my win condition, and certainly after you posed your question, I realized I only win if the ring of power is destroyed.

Putting this here for Andy and everyone else.
If he had actually gotten a town PM and thus received the town wincon, this is simply not a post he would have made because a townie with the townie wincon who is town would not townie this way.
But yes onevoice waiting for Andy etc

[Miss Subliminal]

That was an especially dumb post as that was to the RQS, which was not talking about the ****ing game...

Claim: The Motherfucking Entire Imperial Skyfleet, Loyalist Macho X-Shot Bulltetproof X-Shot Dayvig

RAIN DEATH UPON VENROB

[Miss Subliminal]

If you stopped posting, the odds of town winning this game would literally increase tenfold.

You just made both of our nights. <3

-Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

VOTE: Robert
Bringing up shit that isn't a problem anymore to look proactive and nice whilst actually doing nothing

[Miss Subliminal]

Normally I'd only be antagonistic to a post like that, but that post COMBINED with the fact that he was already scummy as fuck is what warranted the vote.

[Miss Subliminal]

November 11, 2012

[Miss Subliminal]

Amrun, I (SKrew) am still willing to lynch Spiff because of his wincon thing but I cannot convince Andy. Also why in the world do you think Robert is town?

[Miss Subliminal]

@miss sub, why in the world is saying november 11, 2012 relevant?

You've been on this site for over half a year. I don't really think you can play the newb card.
Also, Robert calling something I posted irrelevant is

Amrun, there are a few possibilities with Robert. Either he is:
a) a terrible townie
We do not think a town player can unintentionally be

this

bad. Did you see his votes?

b) a terrible scum player
Most likey. Did you SEE his votes?

c) an obfuscating genius
Unlikely. Did you SEE his VOTES?

[Miss Subliminal]

UNVOTE:
Amrun if you are scum you have to eat two shoes.
So still waiting on Andy to come around on Spiff. Still think wayne is RingScum. I don't know what Andy sees in Who to make him particularly scummy.
VOTE: wayne
This argument with Amrun is ridiculous. This is the second time today he's gotten into an argument like this (ie he did something wrong and not related to the game), and both arguments were with superobvtown people. He's probably RingScum, he might be other scum, but for the love of Aragorn's manly stubble that somehow avoids growing into a manly beard, he needs rope.
If we're wrong, Andy can eat my foot.

Or maybe I'm just missing something.

A lot

[Miss Subliminal]

Townies trying to mind fuck

hot hot hot hot hot

people is not a good thing, last I checked.

[Miss Subliminal]

You are way too focused on the game's wiki page and not enough on the actual game.

[Miss Subliminal]

Have you ever done this "obsessed with wiki" thing in any other games?

[Miss Subliminal]

SleepyKrew, make Andy vote spiff, please. Also if I am scum I will eat two shoes, I promise!

He won't listen to me qq
Well it's not that he's not listening it's that he doesn't see it.
Also I'm going to hold you to that <3

[Miss Subliminal]

Yes that is very good scumhunting wayne
Nominate wayne for Paragon

[Miss Subliminal]

I don't care if you believe me about the shoes, and in fact I was just being silly

95%

Do you remember the Bird 7p we played?

I'll just note here that Venrong says "when" scum kills the holder of the Ring, rather than "if" .....

HEY ANDY LOOK AT THIS

[Miss Subliminal]

I wasn't even remotely as sure as I am now.

Alrighty

[Miss Subliminal]

But I'm pretty willing to bet the game on sk being town anyway.

You are more confident than this?

[Miss Subliminal]

<3
but uh
what

[Miss Subliminal]

Yup.

That's exactly what I said. At some point, you have to make a decision and decide that if you're wrong, you just lose. This is something else.

If you break my heart I will literally cry and record it and post it on YouTube and blame you and then everyone will either hate you or make fun of me

[Miss Subliminal]

And you should probably be thinking about it a little bit harder and not talking about it.

95% is what got me

[Miss Subliminal]

I wonder how many Hydra accounts there are really.

In this game? 3

[Miss Subliminal]

Nevermind
We can discuss this later
What matters is I trust you

[Miss Subliminal]

on MS. There are none on Ika mafia.

A lot.

[Miss Subliminal]

If you stopped posting, the odds of town winning this game would literally increase tenfold.

[Miss Subliminal]

they're definitely speaking with two heads.

One voice means agree on reads and votes. It's not like we have to go "Yes one of our heads is friends with Amrun but I cannot say which one because I am one person"

[Miss Subliminal]

Uh I think the only discrepancies are that Andy doesn't see Spiffscum and I don't really see Whoscum. So we aren't voting either of them...

[Miss Subliminal]

I'm loggin off for a while, either an hour or 5- nowhere inbetween.

thanks bby now I won't have to worry <3

[Miss Subliminal]

A. Read the books (Great Idea)

Sam and Frodo walk down a path. The path is surrounded by trees. Most of the trees are oak. A squirrel runs up one of the oak trees. The squirrel has a very bushy tail. The tail is also striped. The squirrel has a family. Its mate also has a bushy tail, but it is not striped. One of the squirrels' babies has a striped bushy tail, the other's tail lacks both qualities. This is because striped tails and bushy tails have dominant alleles. The male is heterozygous in both traits, and the female is heterozygous in bushiness while homozygous recessive in stripe. The family has stored nuts because winter is coming. These nuts are from trees besides the oak trees. Then Sam and Frodo take another step.

[Miss Subliminal]

Hey, look, a squirrel!
It's giving its tail a twirl!
This adventure has been a whirl so far
I really wish someone invented the car

Do you smell that smoke?
Smells like burning oak!
I hope no one is burning the forest
that'd be bad for the tourists
Where the hell did Frodo go?

Sam?

Frodo? Where are you?

I don't know!

Why do you always wander off?

You really don't need to scoff!

I worry about you
I was told not to lose you
Also I'm totally gay for you

Wait, what?

What?

What did you say?

I didn't say anything Frodo.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay
By the way.
I'm naming my son after you.

Hooray?

Yup.

Sam I think this song has jumped the shark... and nobody knows the tune except you and me...

We should make out behind that tree.

WHAT?

Nothing. Just bluffing.

Sam, that's not what bluffing means.

Why are you rebuffing?
No need to start huffing and puffing.

Sam, I'm going to move on alone.
If you need me, just call my phone

But Frodo, that doesn't exist yet either!

What do you mean "either"?

We made a joke about cars already!

What in the bloody name of Mordor are you on about?

There's really no need to shout!

Aww, are you going to pout?

Eeek, a pig! Hit it in the snout!

I love you man.

I love you too.

Why is this still going on?

Fuck you, SKrew.

[Miss Subliminal]

You are really overestimating how coordinated we are
(also, Skype > QT)

[Miss Subliminal]

Remind me to never play with Venrob again.

[Miss Subliminal]

That claim was terrible, and the point wayne is trying to push is absolute horseshit. I really like how he finds all these scumslips that only he can see, and then when nobody listens he gives up on trying to convince people. Not a townie mentality.

Also, I personally hate Treebeard.
(for not having enough screentime)

[Miss Subliminal]

But could you answer 319 before you "remember" that commitment?

You did that on purpose huh?

I don't get it.

OK SO
The Rach/NS slot is seperately known for lurkiness and/or lack of votes/analysis but this seriously cannot be allowed to go unchecked.

Kay then, either you forgot to unvote me or hydra problems. Either way, WTF.

I unvoted; Empking missed it I guess.

More and more I'm getting an anti-town vibe from Amrun.

Try again.

Miss and Amrun. How do you remotely connect my female thing to role fishing? Do you honestly think a female CHARACTER has anything at all to do with the ROLE for that character? The two things don't equate.

I already stated why. Do some digging or something but I'm not answering a question I already answered.

Sauron has three forces. These are the ‘scum’.

So, are we still lynching Spiff guys, or do we want to lynch this scum instead?

I think we know who we WANT to lynch, but we can't.

I don't get distracted easily. So who do you like for scum?

Still not entirely sure. Pretgty early in day 1. But I'm starting to think on of you and SS could be scum.

This cannot stand.

Also I miss DeathNote what is he doing.

Spoiler: Non-game stuff that has no bearing on the game but you should read anyway cuz it has to do with the game kinda sorta

When I am tired i tend to do wiki stuff, and i made this up last night. I showed it to the mod, and he liked it, so i figure i can link it here:
This Game in Wiki Form
Officially by the rules i cannot post any roleclaims or characterclaims, just death flips, so the roles are empty until we do a lynch.

Anyone who's name is red there should click on their name and make a profile page, of at least some degree (ex.: Hydra makes profile page. The entire profile is 2 links, one to each head's main profile). If not done, then the wiki is incomplete which i do not like.

Ok so this SERIOUSLY breaks on-going game to a level that is unprecedented. I'm surprised you haven't been force-replaced/banned for this because this is ridiculous. STOP. JUST. STOP.

Seriously. Venrob is doing NOTHING, has ONE townread, breaks siterules on the side, and is literally doing nothing helpful for the town.

So.. BP huh? Nice scum claim

Macho
Bulletproof
Dayvig

Not buying that and there was plenty wrong with 419 and 420.

Spiff, if I'm right you really need to pass or destroy. If that shot is legit, you'll be the most likely target for NK.

There's this thing called a joke. It was me/SK bonding moment over Skype and he posted that for me. <3

Don't like how Gollum isn't really doing reads and scumhunting. Lots of flavor stuff (<3) and testaments to the old game but not alot of game content.

Andy, I need one reason to believe you're town.

I'm not giving you a reason as I don't want you sheeping me on blind faith.
You will read, develop your own reads, and vote on your own accord.
I'm still town, but do your own thinking.

Robert's catchup doesn't help his read at all. At least for me.

Amrun, I (SKrew) am still willing to lynch Spiff because of his wincon thing but I cannot convince Andy. Also why in the world do you think Robert is town?

ANDY

let's talksies

Also, why DON'T you think Robert is town?

What kind of scum reads the thread and barely even notes a significant PR claim? (None.)

HI AMRUN IM HERE LETS DO THIS

SERIOUSLY
VENROB
STOP
YOUR BULLSHIT POSTING
YOU ARE SITTING HERE
DOING WIKI STUFF
AND TALKING ABOUT QUOTES
AND PREINS FOR YOUR GAME
YOU ARE NOT PLAYING THIS GAME
YOU ARE HERE TO PUT A CHECK IN THE BOX IN ORDER TO MOD A LARGE THEME GAME OF YOURS
SERIOUSLY
STOP POSTING

That claim is relatively weak compared to Venrob's and I'm a bit confused. Though Amrun seems INSISTENT so yeah. Um. Yeah.

NS POSTED OH MY GOD

There are three people not voting.
PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW

HEY ROBERT
DO WE GET TO KNOW WHY YOU VOTED US
OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU TO GET LYNCHED FIRST
AS THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD ONTO IT

Toast still town.
DeathNote still not posting.
3 people still not voting.
The hell is going on this game.
The. Hell.

WAYNE YOU UNVOTE RIGHT NOW
AMRUN IS TOWN

No, I don't have any strong scum reads.

NO NO NO NO STOP
NOT YOU TOO

CAN THEY BOTH BE SCUM?
CAN THEY BOTH?
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE

wayne is still ringscum.

Haven't mad a wiki for another game, and i am focusing on the game. I'm just choosing to not comment on it at this time, as i have no more to say other than LYNCH SPIFF which i have said to death. So unless you want me to spam "LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF LYNCH SPIFF" in every post i make, be happy that i am posting to show that i am paying attention. I hate day 1, and thus so usually either lurk or want to lurk. Once day 2 comes we have deaths to analyze and associative tells based on day 1, allowing us to find scum more easily, and making for funner gameplay. Sadly to say unless we have a doc i'm dead.

stop
please

Case for Amrun, please.

Read her posts.
/case closed

ok NS is posting at a good pace he can be town now

Why separate out as ring scum?

Your reaction to CAST IT INTO THE FIRE read as REALLY protectionist of the ring.

HEY WAYNE
THE GAME WAS XENOBLADE
IT WASNT THAT LONG AGO

You can't rely on Andy slipping when he's playing as a hydra. AS A HYDRA HE HAS A QT AND WE KNOW THEY'RE USING IT WHEN FORMING READS. I would be floored if they aren't discussing how to format those reads to present in the thread as well. Andy obv sum slip is far less likely to happen this game, so instead of holding out that hope, what do you think of the stuff I've pointed out? Would you normally lynch on something like that?

I agree with your point on some of his posts sounding contrived, but that's about it.

HEY WAYNE
THIS IS TOAST
HE IS MY IRL FRIEND
HE WAS IN BDM, AS WAS SLEEPYKREW
He knows me as scum.
You don't.
You should trust him.
He says I'm town and if I'm scum I'll slip down the line?
I'm town and if I'm scum I'll slip down the line. Period.

What the hell

I fucking hate this game

No one knows what the fuck they are doing

hi amrun
its me, andy
im depressed and hurting in parts that haven't hurt in a long time
I know you're taken and all but can we sit down and have a nice chat together


Now lets talk about things and get this game straight
we can do this together
you take my hand and skrew's hand and we can do this
together

Amrun.
I'll give you your Spiff lynch because the two most important people in this game want him dead and I'm willing to help out.

Warning: do not open spoiler on laggy computer.

Spoiler: RAGE

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...
Mod, you need to take over the wiki. I am apparently not allowed to edit a wiki for 6 months from now....
Not happy.
Main thing to note: Votecounts are posted in the 'important events' section, update that when you can.


If anyone asks why i did that spoiler, it was that or scream at everyone and replace out. I think I chose the better option.

JUSTICE
SWEET JUSTICE
oh and you can still replace out
that'd be swell too

Remind me to never play with Venrob again.

<3


hi this is me posting because im depressed and needed something to do.
so you get a SOC post from me.

-Miss ;D

TOWN
Venrob ---- seriously doubting this
Amrun
Toast
gollum
alienBRO
twinflams

SCUM
Robert2424
Spiff
DN
who
monkey

This is why this account is in BLUE, so I know which one is which.
Or not.

[Miss Subliminal]

Amrun, do you think wayne is town? We definitely don't. Andy has opened himself up to a Spiff-lynch because you and I are telling him to, but I'm guessing he'd rather go with wayne first (and so would I). We can all hold hands and string up Spiff Day 2. I can guarantee we'll all survive because Venrob is going to be the kill tonight ^_^

[Miss Subliminal]

Why do you think he's town?

Also, please respond to my text? (it's completely not game-related guys)

[Miss Subliminal]

How do you know he thinks he's being productive? Pretending to think you're productive is not hard; I do it every day. Choosing those targets may seem odd, yes, but you're dismissing him as essentially too dumb to be scum, which is a TERRIBLE argument. You're automatically assuming "this is too scummy for scum to do" which leads to "this is so scummy that scum could get away with doing it" which is all flavors of bad.

[Miss Subliminal]

What happened to one Spiff to get voted by all, one Spiff to die for all?

[Miss Subliminal]

Vote: Spiff

Figured I'd leave this for Krew as he wanted it more than I did but apparently not.

AMRUN DUN CRY (>^.^)> I GOT DIS

Okay, remind me to dayvig/nightkill miss/andrius in all future games

I am playing the game, i just hate daystart day 1 as i am used to epicmafia, where nightstart is the norm. Even the other forum i played on daystart was a rare sight. I still can't get used to it to the point where i can make my day 1 useful, believe me if i dont die tonight i will be able to contribute. And, just to say again, DOC ON ME FOR GOD'S SAKE!!

HAHAHAHAHA
WHY DO YOU WANT ME DEAD SO MUCH
IS IT BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE HARD TRUTHS?
And don't put a smily at the end of that we both know you're not HAPPY about this.

[Miss Subliminal]

WHY IS HALF THE PLAYERLIST NOT VOTING

[Miss Subliminal]

This means I will get killed, and then everyone will die to poison, causing scum win. If I do not stay alive we are doomed.

What happened to "we can start finding scum D2!!!!!! wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki YEAH I wiki out"?

This level of self-preservation is breathtaking

and it's not the only thing

. I'm starting to doubt the claim but Spiff still needs more deads.

[Miss Subliminal]

Moving along of the people I looked at, spiff is the scummiest of the lot.

Reasons

[Miss Subliminal]

Newbie scum pretending to be newbie town by saying "oh what is that scum thing idk because I am not scum?" is not a new tactic.

[Miss Subliminal]

Amrun it could very much still be that.

[Miss Subliminal]

I disagree, miss thang.

Fake newbishness is the reason I won my first game. It works.

[Miss Subliminal]

I disagree, miss thang.

Fake newbishness is the reason I won my first game. It works.

I'm not talking about fake newbishness in general. I'm talking about this slot, in this game, right now. I don't think it was faked, in this case.

Why are you so certain about this?

And why are we even talking about this instead of Spiff?

[Miss Subliminal]

While we're at it...

Mod, did you provide scum with fakeclaims?

[Miss Subliminal]

Miss Subliminal

Are we ever going to have that talk?

About what

[Miss Subliminal]

I don't go on dates with Waynes that aren't named Bruce

[Miss Subliminal]

Monkey what is your opinion on fluff posting?

[Miss Subliminal]

More confident than the Robert read?

[Miss Subliminal]

ftmp

Whut

[Miss Subliminal]

And I was thinking more along the lines of a table with champagne and cushy chairs, maybe facing a small stage featuring a brass pole. Not a date

For the most part

I didn't realize you were a stripper

[Miss Subliminal]

Monkey what is your opinion on fluff posting?

I prefer to stick to in game related posting myself.

Not what I meant.
Is it scummy?

[Miss Subliminal]

Toasty, I can't really comment on my intentions without screwing up plays others have made that haven't come to fruition.

Vig dis

[Miss Subliminal]

More as opposed to?

[Miss Subliminal]

Lol! I'm not. We could sit there and watch while we talked. Nice and noisy so ther people can't read it. Lol.

So?

I don't think I want to go to a strip club or have any sort of private conversation with you

[Miss Subliminal]

SUBLIMINAL

COMMENT ON MY SPIFF POST OR I'LL CRY

It is a very good post and people should read it and agree

SUBLIMINAL

COMMENT ON MY SPIFF POST OR I'LL CRY

More as opposed to?

Less?

How much is too much?

[Miss Subliminal]

Really Miss? I was talking about YOUR play. YOURS. For me to properly respond to Toasty I would have to ruin that well laid trap. And for holding my tongue on it you want me vigged? Nice of you.

I don't recall setting a trap of any sort

[Miss Subliminal]

Well it was some time back. In post 300

Uh here let's make this easy:
You're wrong
Now answer Toasty or just throw yourself into the lava either works

[Miss Subliminal]

Again, it's a matter of personal preference, and if most people are easily distracted or not. My opinion is in large games it's easier to get distracted, but you have more time, so it balances out for the most part.

I don't want general statements. I want to know how much fluff YOU think is scummy.

[Miss Subliminal]

Hey TF
Spiff
Reasons

[Miss Subliminal]

I want to know why Wayne is coming on to Miss Subliminal and not Amrun.

I am tired and dazed. Define "coming on" please

[Miss Subliminal]

Again, it's a matter of personal preference, and if most people are easily distracted or not. My opinion is in large games it's easier to get distracted, but you have more time, so it balances out for the most part.

I don't want general statements. I want to know how much fluff YOU think is scummy.

I really don't think it's a big determining factor, to be honest.

Omg you are just asking for a spanking

Hypothetically you are scum. How much fluff do you post?

[Miss Subliminal]

I want to know why Wayne is coming on to Miss Subliminal and not Amrun.

I am tired and dazed. Define "coming on" please

Asking you to get naked?

Tyvm
Emma Stone obv

[Miss Subliminal]

DeathNote ~ purely gut

I thought you were mad at Toasty for hijacking your case
Gut is not a case
Someone please vig dis

[Miss Subliminal]

Well it was some time back. In post 300

Uh here let's make this easy:
You're wrong
Now answer Toasty or just throw yourself into the lava either works

Also dis

[Miss Subliminal]

No at first I thought he wanted us to be the stripper which is why I made a joke about him being the stripper. Then he clarified. It's called READING

[Miss Subliminal]

Again, it's a matter of personal preference, and if most people are easily distracted or not. My opinion is in large games it's easier to get distracted, but you have more time, so it balances out for the most part.

I don't want general statements. I want to know how much fluff YOU think is scummy.

I really don't think it's a big determining factor, to be honest.

Omg you are just asking for a spanking

Hypothetically you are scum. How much fluff do you post?

I do not like being ignored it makes me cry and when I cry I am very attractive

[Miss Subliminal]

Gollum the player is not Gollum the character.
Also ffs stop calling me Andy
Also you're full of shit

[Miss Subliminal]

Then I should just ignore you more right? Since I like attractive women?

I don't post a lot of fluff. I frequent a tabletop boardgaming site called fumbbl.com where almost everyone posts fluff and I do not at all practically.

Yeah but then the thread will fill with everyone (including nonplayers and Emp) flirting with me

Are you fluffier as scum?

[Miss Subliminal]

OK ~

MISS

Not what I meant

[Miss Subliminal]

I thought you said you could use fluff to distract people?

[Miss Subliminal]

But if I were scum and I knew someone was easily distracted I would do more of it.

Explain

[Miss Subliminal]

SKREW?

;D

DeathNote ~ purely gut

I thought you were mad at Toasty for hijacking your case
Gut is not a case
Someone please vig dis

And it's my working read list. I can lab.e it however I want. That was a copy/paste job.

sid giv

[Miss Subliminal]

Does that mean you lied and don't know how to cover?
By god bad fluffy monkey

[Miss Subliminal]

Does that mean you lied and don't know how to cover?
By god bad fluffy monkey

No, I'm saying if I was in a situation where I knew that would be an advantage, I would take it. I haven't recognized that situation come up yet.

In this game or ever?

[Miss Subliminal]

sid giv?

do you like doing it backwards?

[Miss Subliminal]

You haven't realized how easy it is to distract people in this game?

[Miss Subliminal]

Omf
I am going to vote you
But I'm going to do a really big awesome post

[Miss Subliminal]

He's talking about me. Even I got that.

Not just you

[Miss Subliminal]

Maybe I'm not as convincing as you...

Huh?

[Miss Subliminal]

He's talking about me. Even I got that.

Not just you

And what motivation do you assign to distracting?

what

[Miss Subliminal]

I'm sure I already know that answer so why don't you see Amrun doing that and buddying you? Or do you and you're just playing along for now?

pedit case in point

do you know what a townbloc is?

[Miss Subliminal]

a bloc is different from a Masonry
only a fool takes a bloc as 100%

[Miss Subliminal]

I know of one game going on right now where 4 of the five people in the "townbloc" are scum and they are steamrolling the town.

[Miss Subliminal]

No no no no no that is

NOT

okay ever

[Miss Subliminal]

.im not nor have I ever been envolved in the game I referenced.

THAT
DOES
NOT
MATTER

[Miss Subliminal]

Okay caught up. Not sure where penguin is, but last she checked in she agreed with me that Spiff feels scummy. Don't need to restate the case here, so:

VOTE: Spiff

Actually please do
For me?

[Miss Subliminal]

Okay time for this post it won't be as good as if Andy did it but hopefully it is still good
Let us look at words Monkey has said:

Monkey what is your opinion on fluff posting?

I prefer to stick to in game related posting myself.

Okay this seems to be what he is feeling and this post is very alignment-non-indicative.

But if I were scum and I knew someone was easily distracted I would do more of it.

Oh okay. Well this playerlist has already proven to be very easy to distract. So basically saying "I would fluff as scum in this game but I am town so I won't". That's cool RIGHT?

Then I should just ignore you more right? Since I like attractive women?

I don't post a lot of fluff. I frequent a tabletop boardgaming site called fumbbl.com where almost everyone posts fluff and I do not at all practically.

Yeah but then the thread will fill with everyone (including nonplayers and Emp) flirting with me

Are you fluffier as scum?

No.

Wait now you aren't fluffier as scum? But didn't you just say you were?

You haven't realized how easy it is to distract people in this game?

Not really.

So here we've got this little lie. And GUESS WHAT ELSE?


Okay but be careful bc it's gonna blow your mind.

Spoiler: spoilered to protect minds

and...

@Mod, who are the scum?

I want to know why Wayne is coming on to Miss Subliminal and not Amrun.

I want to know why Wayne is coming on to Miss Subliminal and not Amrun.

I am tired and dazed. Define "coming on" please

Asking you to get naked?

I want to know why Wayne is coming on to Miss Subliminal and not Amrun.

I am tired and dazed. Define "coming on" please

Asking you to get naked?

Misinterpreted that A LOT

lol by a pole you didn't mean a strip pole? Or did you mean you would be doing the stripping?

Okay I guess I am the only one that misinterpreted that then.

Omf
I am going to vote you
But I'm going to do a really big awesome post

So much for asking you to strip.

VOTE: Monkey

[Miss Subliminal]

FLUFFY MONKEY

[Miss Subliminal]

=19391#p4822799]omg

[Miss Subliminal]

=19391#p4822799]omg

[Miss Subliminal]

OMG!

[Miss Subliminal]

VOTE: Monkey

[Miss Subliminal]

Who's "he"?
If Monkey wagon does not pick up speed then back to Spiff.
I worked REALLY HARD on that post.

[Miss Subliminal]

Spiff is funny?

[Miss Subliminal]

Really we're fine with wayne Spiff or Monkey.
But staying on Monkey until Andy comes on.

[Miss Subliminal]

;D

[Miss Subliminal]

If Monkeywagon isn't taking off by the time Andy comes on, then we will come back to Spiff

[Miss Subliminal]

Can I charm you with my wit and good looks and make you only obey my commands?

[Miss Subliminal]

You don't know what a lynch or a vig is do you
At least you'll die blissfully

[Miss Subliminal]

I can think of some ways RingScum wouldn't start with the Ring, but idk if any of them are things Emp would do.

[Miss Subliminal]

And subliminal follows ME, not you.

I am a strong independent woman

[Miss Subliminal]

Attacking Amrun for being an English teacher is getting really annoying

[Miss Subliminal]

shut up

[Miss Subliminal]

So we're scum again?
Cool

[Miss Subliminal]

Nice reaction fish What did you learn?
Yes we definitely think you Monkey and Spiff are all RingScum. We've certainly been saying that. Yup.
I think I already nominated you for Paragon but now I'm going to second it

Also I didn't reply right away because I'm at a party because I'm very popular sorry

[Miss Subliminal]

Okay Andy is on discussion time

[Miss Subliminal]

We have expert timing
Like funky Chinamen
From funky Chinatown
I am chopping Andy up
He's chopping back down

[Miss Subliminal]

I learned you're more concerned with being popular than finding scum.

Dude you realize this is a game right?

[Miss Subliminal]

You nailing me is indeed a terrifying thought

[Miss Subliminal]

You've metad me? Cite your sources por favor

[Miss Subliminal]

wayne is so funny
I might let him buy me a drink

[Miss Subliminal]

wayne is so funny
I might let him buy me a drink

[Miss Subliminal]

wayne is so funny
I stutter when I think about him

[Miss Subliminal]

ANDY VOTE SPIFF

YOU SAID YOU'D DO IT

YOU SAID

YOU SAID

:'(

SKREW WHAT ARE WE DOING

VOTE: SPIFF

We're going with plan A while waiting for the rest of the game to show up.

Wayne chasing after literally EVERYONE and going paranoid over people etc.
Still think he's a great ringscum candidate.

I'd be much more inclined to flashwagon DeathNote, though. That's always fun.

Flashwagon? No. Switch over? Perhaps.

mattel is not impressive. At all.
MORE PEOPLE WITH NO SCUMREADS.
CAN IT BE THAT EASY?

toast still town
amrun still town
wayne you're freaking out

in other news
i let krew take miss out for the nights
and man his posting is divine

SUBLIMINAL

COMMENT ON MY SPIFF POST OR I'LL CRY

I DID
I VOTED
I GET NO LOVE
NO LOVE
NO LOVE

Nachomamma8 was the first to use it and he did so successfully for a scum win.

Um no.
It existed way before that.

Stop talking right NOW.

Jesus fuck.

Also goes for Venrob.

aleinbro is town


hey skrew
the thing is
less pictures
more case
the pictures are there to enforce a point
hence elrond constantly reinforcing that the ring must be destroyed
IS IS ALTOGETHER EVIL

VOTE: SPIFF

Idk which dies today tbh.

Seriously you will never see me in a game with you again after this.

Amrun is not scum.
seriously.
she is not.
deathnote drops a good vote.
thats enough to let him live IMO.

Can we stop speculating about the starting ring locations? That doesnt help us at all at this point.
Speaking of the ring:


TOWN
Venrob ---- seriously doubting this
Amrun
Toast
gollum
alienBRO
twinflams

SCUM
Robert2424
Spiff
DN
who
monkey
mattel

-Miss ;D

I'm doing more background work so apparently that means SKREW just owns the thread. So sure if that works.

[Miss Subliminal]

i let krew take miss out for the nights
and man his posting is divine

[Miss Subliminal]

Oh jesus fuck
Do you know what mutually exclusive means?
Only one can win!
It's like Harry Potter and Voldemort
Except add another person
Yes RingScum need the other scum dead just like we do
But RingScum also need the Ring and we need it DESTROYED
RingScum are not our friends
Other scum are not our friends
RingScum and other scum are not friends
HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT

[Miss Subliminal]

omgus

Do you even know what this means

;D

[Miss Subliminal]

He's probably RingScum, he might be other scum, but for the l

You even pointed this out before
You need to die regardless of which scum you are because of how damn much you hurt this town

[Miss Subliminal]

I AM VERY EMOTIONAL

[Miss Subliminal]

Look at your ISO
See all those posts?
If you were dead we wouldn't have to deal with them anymore
And then we could muzzle Venrob
And everyone else would get along great

[Miss Subliminal]

Look at your ISO
See all those posts?
If you were dead we wouldn't have to deal with them anymore
And then we could muzzle Venrob
And everyone else would get along great

Is that a last ditch? Lynch him 'cause he posts a lot? <3 for Andy, but you tiger now.

The problem isn't the number of posts. It's the stupidity contained therein.

[Miss Subliminal]

<3

Toasty why are you still on wayne?

[Miss Subliminal]

He's probably RingScum, he might be other scum, but for the l

You even pointed this out before
You need to die regardless of which scum you are because of how damn much you hurt this town

Makes sense when your "town" is actually scum. Nice AtE (not really).

Thanks Gollum.

Yeah he is but deadline is too close

[Miss Subliminal]

And I don't see how MissS can call for people not to vote wayne when his primary reasons for seeing someone as scum is if they are attacking him. Wayne is by far the best lynch for today.

Post I meant to quote

[Miss Subliminal]

I used to be an idealist like you
Then I took a fluffy to my monkey

[Miss Subliminal]

You don't think Spiff scumslipped?

We have less than 2 days. A wayne lynch is not going to happen in that time.

[Miss Subliminal]

omg
gaiz
less than 2 days
Monkey is scum yes
wayne is scum yes
but Spiff chigga chugga choo choo

[Miss Subliminal]

Daytalk.
Cool.

[Miss Subliminal]

You guys are wasting your time. Focus on the actual scum.

Townies don't talk like this
Well noobs might

[Miss Subliminal]

So now I'm scum instead of "ringscum" now that I pointed out you looking for and pushing "ringscum" is scum motivated?

Can you at least pretend you know how to read

[Miss Subliminal]

Townies don't say two days are not enough time for an alternate lynch.

I talk pretty much the same as town and scum.

[Miss Subliminal]

Why would I do meta
when you've already admitted earlier in this game to post differently as scum and town

[Miss Subliminal]

Good job!
Now read our other posts!

[Miss Subliminal]

you're going to have to be more direct, MissS.

I was talking to wayne
I really shouldn't talk to him anymore
I'm just enabling him

[Miss Subliminal]

First off, SKREW said he's taking a break from the game for a day which is just deserved and he's not feeling SUPERWELL so.
Also holy shit this thread explodes.

No, the wincing are mutually exclusive, so they are pretty explicitly anti-town.

Amrun wins the exchange.

Never said the first wincon was town aligned, but they're definitely anti-scum.

Uh dude.
Not having the town win-con means SCUM.
"definitely anti-scum" is ALSO SCUM.
Your CONSTANT DEFENSE of how you are trying to pass off this PLEASEGUYSHECANBETOWN WC is totally vibing me as you are him trying to subtly be like HEY I CAN BE USEFUL GAISE.

So please, more omgus Subliminal.

You want Andy?
I'm here.
You have Q & A with me until I decide I want to do other things.

Miss isn't saying to lynch third party. Jesus fucking Christ. She's said the opposite of that, actually -- that's why town should destroy the ring.

And no, they're anti-town AND anti-scum. That's literally the definition of third party. Shit.

THIS.
SERIOUSLY WAYNE.
IT IS NOT. THIS. HARD.

But, I'm certain that subliminal is REAL SCUM.

Implying that OTHERSCUM isn't scum?
Yeah he's totally RINGSCUM.
But again we CANT LYNCH HIM because
well
um

YEAH
THIS
SO UM
YEAH

Again with the FBI LIE DETECTOR stuff?
Didn't help you out much last game.

Look at your ISO
See all those posts?
If you were dead we wouldn't have to deal with them anymore
And then we could muzzle Venrob
And everyone else would get along great

SERIOUSLY
LITERALLY EVERY PLAYER BUT WAYNE KNOWS THAT OTHERSCUM = SCUM
Scum is still scum. pewpew maddafakka

Sorry for your loss

This is quality posting from this slot.
Continue to only post things like this please.
Or just replace out. That'd be swell too.

Spiff is barely even on my radar. Everytime I read a post about him, I'm underwhelmed. My gut gives me absolutely no indication that Spiff might be scum.

waynegg, on the other hand...

HI TOAST ITS ME
So I agree and think that wayne is scum.
We both do.
But we think he's RINGSCUM and can be more easily eliminated from the game by

You mind revoting to another scumwagon so we can not waste a lynch when we get a free kill on scum by DESTROYING THE RING?
Thanks.
<3
Andy

Sorry for your loss

So now I'm scum instead of "ringscum" now that I pointed out you looking for and pushing "ringscum" is scum motivated?

ringscum is scum
pewpew

If no one calls wayne on his obv OMGUSing

He is still scum.
Just scum we can kill by

Spoiler: for amrun's eyes only

Waynegg: seeing big words and assuming they are insults since 2013

If it wouldn't break site rules, I'd draw a comic of a magnanimous dick for the lulz.

8====================================D

He's not a dick of any sort.

I'm just going to not say anything to this.

VOTE: Spaceman Spiff
Out of the wagons with support, he is the scummiest.

Damn it, as much as I like this vote, you owe us a lot more than this.

This
Who's scum.

We no longer support a spaceman lynch thanks to the votes by DN and Who. That wagon stinks.

NO

NO

DON'T BE SWAYED

THERE ARE TWO FACTIONS!!!

TWO!!!

THREE

I'm here,

Vote Miss Subliminal

For reasons.

Did we ever get the full story on

reasons

?

NOPE











Are we SERIOUSLY going to go back to the DESTROY THE RING OR USE THE RING argument?
Because, wayne, you're a bright guy but maybe we gave you too much credit.
The math is not hard.
DESTROY THE RING means ONE DEADSCUM instantly. (At least one.)
Using it to 'Cop' nightly produces a 4/13 (assuming one WC1scum) of getting scum.
100% > ~25%
HOW
IS THAT NOT BETTER

Also
you're sitting here
using the old 'GAISE THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL THE COP' thing again
you're grasping at straws
again
THERE
IS
NO
COP
There is an item that allows us to find scum. It also allows us to KILL scum. Guaranteed. Blam-o. Boom. Headshot. Dead.
You keep running in circles trying to talk to the adults about something we already ruled out.
Guaranteed deadscum > ~25% chance of finding scum.

Anyone think that maybe Wayne is the 3rd party?

you're, uh, a week late to the party.

Wayne has greatly increased his posting quality these last few pages. It's been cool.

Now if only he could shrink the postCOUNT that'd be great.
Though I'm honestly more impressed with Venrob's posting quality AND quantity.
Great work buddy.
Great work.



SERIOUSLY NERO
I KNOW TOAST
THIS IS TOWNTOAST
WE CAN REEVALUATE LATER BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER HEADS TO ROLL FOR NOW

Okay well.
um
i feel like
scum would take more care to
oh idk
NOT MISSPELL THEIR FAKECLAIM

but
still want him dead
NO YEAH
AMRUN CAN I HAVE PERMISSION TO LEAVE THE SPIFF WAGON
I DID IT FOR YOU HONEY BUT
i think its time

I want to throw something else out there. With a game this size, there's probably room for 4 VT, maybe 5. If monkey flips what he claims I would think the 4 hobbits ~ Frodo's, Mery, Pip, and Sam ~ are the 4 VT. If there's a 5th, Robert's claim of Rider of Rohan makes no sense as they were a group of what, 13 riders. If Rider of Rohan is a legit VT role it would only make sense if all the vanillas are Riders.

Just stop. I disagree with this on so many levels.

<3 DN
but srs gaise

TOWN
Venrob ---- recently been doing well. keep up the good work buddy!
Amrun
Toast
gollum
alienBRO
twinflams

SCUM
Robert2424 <---diescumdie
Spiff <---amrun and skrew want it
DN <--- improving
who <--- not improving
monkey <--- diescumdie
mattel <--- postordie

Miss coming after monkey/spiff on my scumdar, not a day 1 lynch IMO.

Please explain what you mean.

7 VT''s sounds about right to me, maybe 6. I'm one of the town PR's, 4 scum. That leaves 3/4 unnacounted PR's, keeping in mind the ring is a moving non-role PR.

No stop.
You lose your plaque.

- Miss ;D

[Miss Subliminal]

I was gone all day yesterday so that's where I've been.

[Miss Subliminal]

Hey guys
Still not feeling too great, but am in the process of catching up
in the meantime I have a question that I would like you all to help me with
my aunt and I had a disagreement about "pointing something out"
She thinks you can point anything out
whereas I say you can only point something out if it's true
for example, IMO "I pointed out his hair is green" when it is in fact orange is an incorrect usage of the term
Andy agrees with me
thoughts?

[Miss Subliminal]

Amrun and wayne are not allowed to answer

[Miss Subliminal]

But is it still pointing out if you KNOW you are wrong?

[Miss Subliminal]

uh the green orange thing was just an example
What happened was my mom said we were out of ice cream
and I was like "thanks for pointing that out" before checking the freezer
but then I found ice cream
so I was like "oh no you didn't point it out you were wrong"
and my aunt was like "no she still pointed it out"

according to you, my mom was pointing it out because she didn't know she was wrong
however, if she had known we had ice cream, and lied to me, then that would not be pointing it out
Y/N? just to make sure

[Miss Subliminal]

Please answer the Y/N part so I have a definitive answer
tia

[Miss Subliminal]

She's getting up soon and I'd like an answer before then pweez :3

[Miss Subliminal]

Vote: Gollum

This feels like a good vote.

is the VC correct?

[Miss Subliminal]

nobody fucking claim

[Miss Subliminal]

I'm too tired so I'm just going to laugh
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[Miss Subliminal]

wayne was on every wagon

[Miss Subliminal]

"we need a lynch so I'll stop voting hottie mc hothots"?

[Miss Subliminal]

.VOTE: Monkey

Only because no lynch isn't an option and I think the other main wagon is so much worse. There's no secret about who I think the best choice is, but I can see there's no way that'll carry.

[Miss Subliminal]

That post definitely says "no lynch < someone I don't think is scum"

[Miss Subliminal]

Hey Andy if you get on here without checking Skype please don't vote yet I want my action to get a result

[Miss Subliminal]

Sub, what do you think of Toast?

still TownyToast

[Miss Subliminal]

also very good with butter or cheese but not both

[Miss Subliminal]

I did an exact quote of one of your posts and you called it a misrep
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[Miss Subliminal]

If you want to call that post a misrep then quote THAT POST
Nothing in your explanation contradicts my "misrep"

[Miss Subliminal]

DN please answer my Y/N post I will quote it for you if you need it

[Miss Subliminal]

In post 300. Yup. We didn't suspect Monkey back in post 3 fucking hundred.

[Miss Subliminal]

Actually that's where the FLUFFY MONKEY thing started
I know reading can be hard but c'mon please try

[Miss Subliminal]

wtf
We've done a lot of associating with Amrun in this game
But you bring up a post where we mention out of game friendship
like wtf

[Miss Subliminal]

Yeah I was active on site. Also I was feeling like shit and hoping Andy got on so I wouldn't have to read what I presumed (and I was right) to be a fuckfest of wayne.

[Miss Subliminal]

NEVER
NEVER DID WE EVER VOTE MONKEY
YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS

[Miss Subliminal]

What do you think of Amrun claiming that you guys weren't around when the monkey wagon gained traction yet 1352 and your post history proves this wrong?

Andy was asleep when the lynch happened and I was actively hoping to not have to read the thread, so I'd say it's pretty accurate.

[Miss Subliminal]

DN
Stop avoiding my question
VOTE: DN

[Miss Subliminal]

according to you, my mom was pointing it out because she didn't know she was wrong
however, if she had known we had ice cream, and lied to me, then that would not be pointing it out
Y/N? just to make sure

Please answer the Y/N part so I have a definitive answer
tia

[Miss Subliminal]

Andy didn't want to change our vote because he felt committed to the Spiff wagon.

[Miss Subliminal]

Because READS DON'T CHANGE right

[Miss Subliminal]

Forget mastin I want waynegg to write a book

[Miss Subliminal]

The fact that I voted you to make you answer should show you it kind of is actually a big deal

[Miss Subliminal]

No I really want to know from you

[Miss Subliminal]

That's fine, we aren't talking about that. We are talking about the fact that Amrun is a little liar and claiming that you guys weren't around when the Monkey wagon picked up.

I'm going to chalk this up to misremembering because Amrun is super duper obv town.

[Miss Subliminal]

No I really want to know from you

Then read my answer! Was I really being THAT vague?

I am not mentally well, which is why I'm making super duper sure what your answer is

[Miss Subliminal]

That has nothing to do with the fact that MONKEY is completely absent from your reads list.

You're also absent from the list. Are you our scumbuddy too?

[Miss Subliminal]

That's fine, we aren't talking about that. We are talking about the fact that Amrun is a little liar and claiming that you guys weren't around when the Monkey wagon picked up.

I'm going to chalk this up to misremembering because Amrun is super duper obv town.

Why is she town?

Have you read her posts?

[Miss Subliminal]

Forget mastin I want waynegg to write a book

Ironic you should say that..

3?

[Miss Subliminal]

Ignore that quote plz thx

[Miss Subliminal]

Well I assumed he was talking about Monkey's teammates.
How do you know the RingScum is an SK?

[Miss Subliminal]

But being an SK requires having a kill. Why do you think the RingScum has a kill?

[Miss Subliminal]

Okay that makes sense.

[Miss Subliminal]

I haven't talked to Andy about the RingScum out of this thread (except that it's probably wayne) and I can't remember every single thing he's said.

[Miss Subliminal]

I think DN knows why I'm questioning him and is scared to give me a straight answer

[Miss Subliminal]

DeathNote is confirmed scum

Well, that's what I just asked. Do you know the hair is actually orange? If so, then you are just being misleading. I wouldn't consider that "pointing out" if that is an actual term.

If she knew you

did

have ice cream and still said that you didn't, then that's just being deliberately deceitful.

Your mother lied to you.... I'm... I'm so sorry....

This equates to a YES to my question that he's so deftly avoiding.

Sometimes I get too excited

[Miss Subliminal]

The people who decided to place me as scum, need to reevaluate that. Those reads didn't happen until after I left. The only person who found me scummy before my V/LA was toasty and he is the only one who deserves to continue to point me out as scum.

Read it
Read it and fucking weep