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They could be both be scum but I don't see them as being the same scum faction.In post 80, borkjerfkin wrote:
Matt and desperado aren't scum togetherIn post 76, Thor665 wrote:Would you like to offer a read on me, or Matt, or anyone else now?
I see both points here. I can't see why scum would draw so much attention to themselves but I can't see why town (other than VI) would pull a stunt like this either. The motivation is rather confusing to this head.
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I am not itchy. I just throw up every possibility until I'm left with what's possible. Not "itching for it" but when I say could be it means just that. Could be.In post 95, borkjerfkin wrote:
mattpIn post 89, Jon Doe wrote:I see both points here. I can't see why scum would draw so much attention to themselves but I can't see why town (other than VI) would pull a stunt like this either. The motivation is rather confusing to this head.
why so itchy about multiball so early?
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I don't know. I just don't like either of them right now.In post 118, borkjerfkin wrote:
Yeah but you deliberately introduced that possibility without commenting on whether or not it is likely. Do you think it is likely?In post 111, Jon Doe wrote:I am not itchy. I just throw up every possibility until I'm left with what's possible. Not "itching for it" but when I say could be it means just that. Could be.
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What is this about? I have no rivalry with you. I don't think I've met you before. I hate person based arguments. I'm more about logical reasons for behavior.In post 132, Trust Fund wrote:Get used to p-edits, this is gonna be xenoblade allll over again.
Also, Titus/Waynegg hydra: No using personal crap this game PLEASE? I don't want another xenoblade clusterfuck, wayne. And we're keeping our rivalry out of this one.
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Because it couldn't possibly, you know, be the experienced scum who just pulled this shit off that this hypothetical newbscum comes along later to immolate.In post 106, Majiffy wrote:If it were a scum move, it'd be a scum move by newbie scum that saw a more experienced scum pull off something similar before.
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Piss off and use your "meta"In post 199, Trust Fund wrote:You know exactly what I'm talking about. After AMOL ffery uses like a 20 foot pole around me.
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In post 334, Desperado wrote:
It's a little presumptive to declare that it helped town, and all those town reads look right to me. Why is trust fund scum?In post 329, StupendousKey wrote:Desperado wrote:
In post 253, StupendousKey wrote:
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VOTE: Trust Fund
Why are people claiming right now? The Pitoli votes are bad, he's barely even said anything.
Hey you ignored me earlier when I asked you to be specific about why you didn't like my reaction to Matt's claim.
Also this vote sucks.
I didn't like it because it looked opportunistic, especially since his gambit benefited town.
Matt, Toogeloo, Amrun, and Thor are town by the way. Maybe sangres, but I can't tell yet.
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This would be one good reason...In post 335, Trust Fund wrote:
Scumclaim #2In post 329, StupendousKey wrote:because it looked opportunistic, especiallyI didn't like it.since his gambit benefited town
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In post 372, Trust Fund wrote:huh. NO idea why that first quote is there. But anyways, i didn't see it as a misrep, so whatever.
~sashaIn post 329, StupendousKey wrote: I didn't like ithis gambit benefited town.because it looked opportunistic, especially since
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And you're taking it out of context too because that was a reply to Desparado's question about why SK didn't like D's vote.In post 380, Trust Fund wrote:Perhaps I should have seperated them and explained, but I thought it was obvious they were two different thoughts. "I didn't like it" is a bad response to your reaction because it's vague and shitty. The second thing is a scumclaim because there's no way for him to know that it benefited town for sure... unless he knew who town was.
That's what I get for doing that post quickly I suppose.
Make sense now?
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In post 329, StupendousKey wrote:
I didn't like itDesperado wrote:
Hey you ignored me earlier when I asked you to be specific aboutIn post 253, StupendousKey wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Trust Fund
Why are people claiming right now? The Pitoli votes are bad, he's barely even said anything.why you didn't like my reactionto Matt's claim.
Also this vote sucks.because it looked opportunistic, especially since his gambit benefited town.
Matt, Toogeloo, Amrun, and Thor are town by the way. Maybe sangres, but I can't tell yet.
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Yeah. I think trust fund is scum, but misrep noted on implying defending Desperado. I could give two shits which scum Trust Fund was having scum theater with. The cabd half doesn't misrep like that, nor is he quite this agro, as any but scum. If you're gonna call me out for tunneling, at least get my target right.In post 414, Desperado wrote:
I asked you if you had any thoughts that didn't revolve around defending Stupendous and you've done nothing but defend Stupendous since then. Is that your way of saying "No?"In post 413, Jon Doe wrote:Throwing shit would imply that you didn't misrep twice with the same misquote. You haven't answered that satisfactorily. In fact you're deflecting with omgzobvtownfrustratedwait bullshit.-
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I want to be competent. Can I read you as town?In post 471, Majiffy wrote:I'm town.
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The good player I'm not scum tell. Can we get a new punchline already?In post 430, MattP wrote:
No he's L-5 and if you look you'd see all of the actually competent people are voting himIn post 428, Ellibereth wrote:is he at L-1?-
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This will be my only post on this shit. To hold a grudge would mean I care, when in actuality idgaf. Why you have now touched on some old shit 5 times and are using it to cover for your scum is both lame and weak, so how bout you get off your high horse, go back to your mr. popularity aren't we so cool scum started townbloc, and just play the fucking game? If you were going to carry on with this shit, why did you even bother signing up when you saw I was already there. I'm done with it. Been done with it. How about you really being done with it too.In post 477, Trust Fund wrote:
He's gonna be attacking me all game, he and I have an old grudge and he doesn't like to let stuff go. I'm over it.In post 422, Jon Doe wrote:Well it was initially. Apparently my other head might be thinking differently.
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Talk to me about Trust Fund the qt Wayne. We aren't lynching her today, there are scummier targets. There's no point in getting the whole town pissed at us AND not make your point because people think it's range. If we go after that hydra, it will need to be coordinated. I still don't know WHY you're wanting to go after her. This is something you should talk with me about.
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Buddying you like crazy? What the hell are you smoking? I pretty much called you a jester earlier.In post 602, StupendousKey wrote:Putting this baby somewhere useful. Jon Doe has been buddying me like crazy and I don't like their posts.
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This is precisely what worries me Matt. It's too guaranteed, which makes me suspect Jester.In post 609, MattP wrote:Chesskid, Stupendous is guaranteed scum, just iso him it's like 15 hilarious posts
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Derp. Just reread the setup. Yes, my vote is in the right place still. Paranoia got the best of me there.In post 611, MattP wrote:This is a guaranteed non bastard game
He's literally just that bad Jon Doe
And you NEVER play as if there's a jester, cmon please be rational
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That head always attacks one of those players. It shouldn't be interpreted as defending but rather I need to get control of my other head. Those two apparently have some history of always FoSing each other.In post 614, StupendousKey wrote:
That was just now. Earlier you defended me for like 10 posts by attacking Trust Fund.In post 603, Jon Doe wrote:
Buddying you like crazy? What the hell are you smoking? I pretty much called you a jester earlier.In post 602, StupendousKey wrote:Putting this baby somewhere useful. Jon Doe has been buddying me like crazy and I don't like their posts.
UNVOTE:
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Starting to doubt my Matt read.
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She didn't.In post 614, StupendousKey wrote:
That was just now. Earlier you defended me for like 10 posts by attacking Trust Fund.In post 603, Jon Doe wrote:
Buddying you like crazy? What the hell are you smoking? I pretty much called you a jester earlier.In post 602, StupendousKey wrote:Putting this baby somewhere useful. Jon Doe has been buddying me like crazy and I don't like their posts.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jon Doe
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Starting to doubt my Matt read.
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I did.
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Assuming Mollie? You know that's not true...In post 626, No Brains Here wrote:
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But Matt, you said the glorious over confident seasoned player who's scum phrase. Why should I listen to your direction?
pedit. I have major questions for you DGB. later when it settles down. About scumputer. It fascinates me. I have a rudimentary knowledge, but there are things I don't quite piece together.-
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Because it truly fascinates me and there are a couple of things I haven't figured out like assigning expected scum per wagon and what to do when there's only one wagon per day phase and stuff like that.In post 644, Sugar Cain wrote:Jon Doe: Why are you asking about scumputer?-
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Better? One big hyphenated nounIn post 639, Jon Doe wrote:But Matt, you said the glorious-over-confident-seasoned-player-who's-scum phrase.-
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No. That's because they're so damned fun to makeIn post 649, MattP wrote:I like how I forget every game how games affect me
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I can prove you wrong on us with one sentence that would be verified by at least one player. I'll save that for when its needed but I'm sure that player is already rolling his eyes and cursing under his breath.In post 655, Sugar Cain wrote:AH, so you plan to clutter up the thread with useless theory discussion.
On one hand we have caught Jon Doe scum and on the other we have my desire to kill Matt. Decisions, decisions.-
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While we're voting Matt, I'm not liking this too much...
In post 31, Toogeloo wrote:MattP Merle Dixon confirmed?
Where's my Glen at? If you claim Glen now, I'll love you forever and give you total town points.In post 90, Toogeloo wrote:No one claiming Glenn yet? I'm sad. No Town points for anyone yet.
Looking at motivation here. I see no town motivation. I see exactly what he alluded to ~ gambit. It works to give him town cred while at the same time looking for (and finding?) a PR for NK. Claim yourself is fine, stupid IMO, but fine. Coaxing someone who could easily not be vanilla to do the same...nah. Why isn't this a hot topic?In post 112, Toogeloo wrote:
Erm... no?In post 106, Majiffy wrote:Because I don't see scum that knows what they're doing trying something like that. If it were a scum move, it'd be a scum move by newbie scum that saw a more experienced scum pull off something similar before. MattP does not fall under this category.
Newbie scum play safe games, try to stay out of the lime light, etc.
Pro scum try gambits that will excuse the reason they are still alive later in the game when they are normally night killed early on.-
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Making I joke of the can't at the end and thing them together. It's ok to laugh.In post 678, Amrun wrote:
Nope. Not how that works. "I cannot not" means "I must."In post 674, Jon Doe wrote:So 3 n't's make a net can't, right? So who else do you like Am?-
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405 was attacking Trust Fund, 426 was agreeing that SK was looking scum as well (I don't see that as an either/or situation), 458 was a miscue from hydra dissonance.In post 677, borkjerfkin wrote:upon skimming Jon Doe's 405 is a weird hard pounce on SK despite having no interaction with them prior, and 426 ("I'm sure SK is scum") is out of sync with 458 (vote for SK) but I have no idea which head is doing what there-
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In post 31, Toogeloo wrote:In post 698, chesskid3 wrote:what prompted the claims
MattP Merle Dixon confirmed?
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Even if that were good logic, the whole rest of the day that could have been will be missed.In post 759, Sugar Cain wrote:Still, I don't like the wording of the post
and, I hopped on the wagon because, at the point I hopped on, I thought there was a decent chance for SK to be scum, I town-read the vast majority of the wagon at the time I joined and, even if they were town, they wouldn't have been missed >.>
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GiF shouldn't be in your null pile and you should know why given the game we both played with him.In post 795, Sugar Cain wrote:and then, I have Brains and Desp as somewhat weaker reads, but still fairly strong
Thor is somewhere in my null-town pile along with Mastin and GIF
I had Toggers as a really nice strong read, though I have taken a step back from him because of Nacho, (and a few others I think) nice town read on him
Doe is a scum read
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And lololololololol! at the cosmic karma of this!In post 751, Venmar wrote:While the undead corpse was making it's way into the prison, a shadow moved through the cells of the sleeping survivors, moving unseen, going for a particular cell. Andrea was sound asleep when the shadow slipped into her cell block, a pillow in hand. When her eyes slowly fluttered open to see the shadow, she tried to gasp but the pillow seemed to crush her face as it came down. Trying to resist, she thrashed her arms around in despair, but the grip was too strong. Slowly, she lost consciousness, and died with it.
Trust Fund was suffocated in her sleep, she wasAndrea ( Vanilla Townie )
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OopsIn post 805, waynegg wrote:Yes ignore the wagon that's bound to be full of scum given the nature of the lynch to go after one of the three or so players who were saying you guys were falling into an obvious trap. That's thesmartplay here...-
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In post 809, waynegg wrote:
Posting this for a point to work off of[LYNCHED] StupendousKey: Mastin2, Mattp, Amrun, Sandres,Majiffy,Trust Fund, Toogeloo, OhGodMyLife, Sugar Cain,Chesskid3, RedCoyote, Ellibereth-
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In post 813, waynegg wrote:
This is pretty damned bad logic...In post 164, mastin2 wrote:Derp, I'm an idiot. Misremembered how many there are in this game.
[L-6] Desperado: Sangres, Mattp, borkjerfkin, Amrun, Sugar Cain, StupendousKey.
The first five votes are all professional zombie-killers, who work well as a unit. The sixth voter, on the other hand, who brought Desperado half way to being lynched, not so much. Regardless of Desperado's alignment, there be scum.
VOTE: Stupendous Key.
(Sorry. I'm trying. But humor's harder to pull off than I remember.You'd
thinkthe guy who uses the humor smiley of ":P" so often would be a laugh riot, but so far, I'm only mildly entertaining at best.)
Not much better here, I'm reading this slot as scum. Don't think I've ever seen an omgus sheep vote before. Not sure what my other head thinks.In post 168, MattP wrote:
FUCK YOU FOR STEALING MY GLORYIn post 164, mastin2 wrote:Derp, I'm an idiot. Misremembered how many there are in this game.
[L-6] Desperado: Sangres, Mattp, borkjerfkin, Amrun, Sugar Cain, StupendousKey.
The first five votes are all professional zombie-killers, who work well as a unit. The sixth voter, on the other hand, who brought Desperado half way to being lynched, not so much. Regardless of Desperado's alignment, there be scum.
VOTE: Stupendous Key.
(Sorry. I'm trying. But humor's harder to pull off than I remember.You'd
thinkthe guy who uses the humor smiley of ":P" so often would be a laugh riot, but so far, I'm only mildly entertaining at best.)
VOTE: STUPENDOUS KEY
She was wrapped up in her screwed up bad claim, and with no counter I have her as town.
Nacho is very hard for me, but this just looks opportunistic and scummy
I read this slot as scum D1 and am not surprised to see him hereIn post 296, Toogeloo wrote:Funny that StupdendousKey is just like...
*hands in the air*
"What~EVER~!~"
(Screw you guys, I'm going home).
Unvote;
Vote: StupendousKey
ONLY.FUCKING.POST.
Blind sheep, but their other posting looks like shit
Wow. Someone on the wagon who looks to have town motivation, not because of a claim, and decided to sheep a bad wagon. Town.In post 730, RedCoyote wrote:
Why? How? Why not just full claim?Matt 10 wrote:I AM IMMUNE TO THE ZOMBIES
I agree with the former, but not the latter. I will hide when I want, thanks.Matt 14 wrote:Noone should be hiding early on to allow the PRs to have their chances of being hit lowered. Since we only have two hide chances each we can't throw them away early on.
Additionally, late on, aka past day 3, we should be cycling who hide when to insure that PRs have a solid idea that they're ok not hiding
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NOOOOO!mastin 18 wrote:'Cause I'm a lyncher whose target is the cult leader RC.
But if I am your target, it confirms me as town, remember?
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Flavor implies The Governor & Co as the scum faction.Majiffy 21 wrote:The question to be considered, at this point, is are we really looking for a scum team or are we just looking for one or two third-party anti-town-WC players?
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It doesn't suck and there's no reason for you not to claim.Matt 45 wrote:So, uh, Desperado, why does this post suck with multiple amount of crapitude?
This hostility is uncalled for and serves to just push Desperado's buttons.Matt 52 wrote:I just don't care at all what you think, and now that you're asking for flavor I feel the sole desire to prevent you from ever being happy
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Maybe, but you don't need to talk for him.Majiffy 54 wrote:Desperado it may very well be that he has additional information regarding his role that would be anti-town to out, and giving out his flavor would expand upon that unnecessarily. You have what you need to have; that he shouldnt be voted right now. Piss off.
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I agree.Amrun 81 wrote:This feels really forced.
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I can see this as a scum post.SK 124 wrote:I like these Desperado votes. He doesn't look so good right now. I don't even know what to think about Matt.
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I am on board with Thor. All these seem like good lynches.Thor 131 wrote:Vote: Pitoli
Also willing to policy lynch the Stupendous Man/KBW slot.
Also willing to help lynch Majiffy.
VOTE: Stupendouskey (L-1)
I'll probably just be perpetually behind in this game until night, but that's the first five pages.
Total fluff shit in every post she's made and stated only here to hammer. This is a waste of a slot regardless of alignment, IMO.
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In post 815, waynegg wrote:In all, what we know from our wagon is that pretty much no fucking body had a good reason to get on it and that the town is easily led. Neither bode well. So, how about we bring some meta in.
In Newbie 1387 where I played with Mara and GiF, GiF gave up her propensity to WK as town or scum and ALWAYS as town starting right here...
He explained how that's a large part of his meta. Yet...In post 330, GuyInFreezer wrote:I object to your explanation of white knighting, Wayne.
The target is usually town, but the whiteknighting itself is a playstyle.
This is odd behavior for GiF. He says he aggressively WhiteKnights what he sees as bad lynches when town ~ every time. Yet, though he had the opportunity to, and plainly reads SK as town, he instead throws out a limp, no conviction hand with "how is this slot scum again?". This isn't GiF as town. Also, GiF is more involved and helpful as town than what he showed D1.In post 661, GuyInFreezer wrote:
So except for this one little thing that worded really awkwardly (scumslips aren't this blatant usually)In post 329, StupendousKey wrote:I didn't like it because it looked opportunistic, especially since his gambit benefited town.
How is this slot scum again? (Considering that this hydra contains KBW)
VOTE: GuyInFreezer
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In post 817, waynegg wrote:
I would think that's pretty much implied, given there's an unstoppable horde that kills 1-3 players per night. The game would go too quickly if you threw two scum factions into the mix as well.In post 810, No Brains Here wrote:Arright we can't be 100% sure yet, but it does look mightily like this game has only ONE scum team. YAY because I don't like multiball.-
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Mother fucker I suck!
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Did you somehow miss the whole vote analysis thing where it's apparent there's nothing to be gained from that wagon at this time. There wasn't one solid reason for any vote. The ISOs I looked at for those players (which was most of them) was just as fruitless. If you're going to omgus vote me, at least have to courtesy to point out what I may have overlooked to corroborate how bad I suck.In post 826, borkjerfkin wrote:
Interpreting this as a sarcastic response to Amrun, You clearly think we should be looking on the wagon, not off it, but then you go after GIF, who wasn't on it, with a point that isn't objectively very good on someone who can't respond to pressure right now.In post 805, waynegg wrote:Yes ignore the wagon that's bound to be full of scum given the nature of the lynch to go after one of the three or so players who were saying you guys were falling into an obvious trap. That's the smart play here...
VOTE: john doe
Add bork to the scum pile because instead of giving a clear counter argument, he just discredits the case all together with no work to back up that lame shit.-
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At the time I said that to Amrun, I hadn't looked at the wagon at all. Then I looked at the wagon and was like, oh... And saw why she was off that reservation.
The omgus comes from basically saying my GiF case is stupid and leaving it at that with zero counterpoints other than your opinion. At least my case has reasoning and thought behind it. Your dismissal of it reflects on you. And it's omgus.-
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- Joined: July 29, 2013
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