Death's Diner -Game Over-

[Metal Sonic]

hi syrana/fferylit( i think did i rememebr right?)

[Metal Sonic]

sorry i got diustracted majorly while reading at page 8

i wonder if speaking in another language is against the rules?

小龙，你能说华文吗？

[Metal Sonic]

wow this is messed up

not in the number of posts

but more in jarb vs amrun


amrun jarb td rift titus town

stubbs scum lets get him

VOTE: stubbbs

[Metal Sonic]

everyone else null\


including bro he hasnt posted alot

[Metal Sonic]

what the firetruck is this?

anyway I'm pretty sure about amrun town

and I agree 100% with his scumreads

stubbs was just rvs but he's going on my watch list

VOTE: Elvis

remember when bro told her to go sit in the scum corner to wait to be lynched? I liked that

<3 bro

Baezu or Elvis today


just iso them and you dont even need a "case" to convince you


and Aunt Jemina pls call me

Menny or

fine call me Sonny

may get diabetes etc

[Metal Sonic]

amrun,

why not both scum?



>poor-playing scum

can you discount the possibility?

[Metal Sonic]

yeah so obviously i am town^

I can't understand how I am the only person who sees how scummy metalsonic is.

Elvis read has been revised as Genuine VI = poor town and doesnt know it


Therefore baezu is scum

VOTE: Baezu

[Metal Sonic]

See the quote I quoted? Town tell.

Yeah it was convenient

[Metal Sonic]

we are gonna get diabetes

[Metal Sonic]

I can't understand how I am the only person who sees how scummy metalsonic is.

Wow, you're scum. Seriously, you've had your skin in this game for how long, and you can only come up with 'Wow, Metal Sonic is scummy?'

Yes, it was lazy for Stubbs to post that Metal Sonic is town because he's only seen him play like this as town, and MS making the jump that must mean he's Town, but MS is dreadful. He and TD got into a pissing match into Xenogears that lasted for pages. Now, in that particular case, TD -was- scum, but it seems to be a weakness of MS to be able to articulate anything well.

In other words: You're bottom feeding. You're being hypocritical on a critical level. You richly deserve this.

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BTW: I like this post. You're getting into my siggy ghosty

[Metal Sonic]

i'd just like to say that oriole is 100% confirmed town

[Metal Sonic]

@MetalSonic – Why? Because of the papernotes? That's not a pure indicator of anything.

@Oriole – I agree with the consensus. I think I see some factual things that are fueling some of your reads that are wrong. However, I won't say you're wrong until I am sure what you are saying.

i am a handwriting analysis expert



and the fact that he actually bothered to do this shit on paper = real scumhunting = town

oriole is as good as innocent child for me

[Metal Sonic]

Orry, deary, I have explained my stance on multiball. As for Sonny, my focus on him is

specifically

because

he is null. I want him to not be null.

sorry i will get diabetes and i will get acid reflux so i'm going to stay as bland porridge for now


puns aside

lazy old grannies make bad syrup !


that was still a pun sorry


i have knitts for VI, Baezu for scum, titus is p fishy

roflcopter town, oriole conf conf town

[Metal Sonic]

I think inducting most anyone into team obv-town is a little early at this stage. Oriole is leaning town and I wouldn't vote for him today, but it's day 1. If we are, or the scum believe we are, in a multi-ball scenario, it is much easier for them scum hunt.

this is bad

[Metal Sonic]

That Oriole guy is obvtown

Just incase noone realised it yet.

i said it first

therefore i must be obvtown too!

not really


but i can be the obvtown-admissions-checker

[Metal Sonic]

yes

[Metal Sonic]

of course you are of a lower grade of obvtown

[Metal Sonic]

i will have to speak to your manager

[Metal Sonic]

what was that

[Metal Sonic]

8 pages and idk what happened

[Metal Sonic]

He's claiming to be a handwriting expert and handwriting can show a lot but I'm pretty sure there's no handwriting test for deception.

Are

YOU

a handwriting expert? What do you know?


If you deny my skills and subsequently deny oriole being conftown, you really need to be lynched with fire~

[Metal Sonic]

Oh and if my expression was not "obvious" enough,

you don't know jack shit about handwriting analysis

so stop pulling shit out of

so dont talk about things that you dont know about

[Metal Sonic]

He's claiming to be a handwriting expert and handwriting can show a lot but I'm pretty sure there's no handwriting test for deception.

Are

YOU

a handwriting expert? What do you know?


If you deny my skills and subsequently deny oriole being conftown, you really need to be lynched with fire~

It's not my trade but I know a little bit about everything involved in investigation. The simple solution would be to prove that there's something out there determining deception via handwriting, and put plenty of egg on my face.

Pssst

its actually your job to prove that there's something that says YOU CAN'T determine deception via handwriting

because you're the one on the offensive here

and you're the one with the outrageous claim of calling me scum re:handwriting expert

[Metal Sonic]

Oh and if my expression was not "obvious" enough,

you don't know jack shit about handwriting analysis

so stop pulling shit out of

so dont talk about things that you dont know about

Like I said. Call my bluff if you think I know something.

You're the one that is supposed to call my bluff -____-

[Metal Sonic]

man what an unenlightened person

http://digitaljournal.com/article/278581

go do some work, even google can tell you that




please dont talk about things that you have no idea about ^___^

[Metal Sonic]

heres a more reliable article

http://www.iafei.com/deception-detection/

[Metal Sonic]

hey guys lets talk about baezu and if we should lynch him today

[Metal Sonic]

he is at l-1

so yes

since everyone is here anyway

[Metal Sonic]

Anyone can use google.

Now, I'm dropping it at the group's request but yeah, I don't think that's ever gaining acceptance in the relevant scientific community if being in a car invalidates the results.

Yeah, I believe that if anyone can use google, there is no reason for you to throw shit at me with that ballsy claim without doing some research yourself(on google)

and he was sitting on an aeroplane not a car. aeroplanes are usually stable in my experience so yes


finally GG


egg all over your face

[Metal Sonic]

ya while we wait for baezu to claim and we either lynch or unlynch him



our group of dethy is sorting out who is the scum

we primarily agree on a consensus of bro being scum

I agree too, his scumplay is usually lurkerplay which is happening now

[Metal Sonic]

you are an expert and just dumbing things down for me,

i am





i have already proven you wrong so YES EGG ON YOUR FACE

He's claiming to be a handwriting expert and handwriting can show a lot but I'm pretty sure there's no handwriting test for deception.

Are

YOU

a handwriting expert? What do you know?


If you deny my skills and subsequently deny oriole being conftown, you really need to be lynched with fire~

It's not my trade but I know a little bit about everything involved in investigation.

The simple solution would be to prove that there's something out there determining deception via handwriting, and put plenty of egg on my face.

would you understand if i explained the technical that oriole is telling the truth?(even if its so plain obvious and you could get an amateur to tell you that; its like sorting black and white, the tough part is the grey which is not in this case)

the fact that you are incapable of using google leads me to conclude: no

[Metal Sonic]

it just proves that titus loves to tunnell and usually pulls shit out of nowhere and throws it at his victims

its in his personality

i just happened to be a victim of something that was unrelated to mafia/off topic and I was confident enough about my subject matter in order to deflect him


but this can apply because when he tunnels someone for game related material i.e "you are scum!" you can deduce he is usually pulling his premises out of thin air

[Metal Sonic]

i have not found scum independently yet. i shall sheep

VOTE: bro

filler

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: Aunt J

i dont know who is scum so i just sheep

dark chocolate aint sweet but its really tasty

aunt j advocates diabetes

[Metal Sonic]

hey it looks like ghost claims results first

go first ghosty

VOTE: muffin

[Metal Sonic]

if ghosty really flips scum

we're buying a whole factory of willy wonka's for AJ(AJ extra town)

if willy wonka's is still in business(AJ not dying/still being relevant)

[Metal Sonic]

We feel like voting Metal Sonic, AJ and Amrun. Will leave MS to the dethy to sort for now.

i see scum

[Metal Sonic]

maybe tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

i checked stubbs and i got clean

i must be naive or insane or sane

[Metal Sonic]

i checked stubbs and i got clean

i must be naive or insane or sane

Why target me if you're unsure of my alignment?

i am an inspector i do my job

[Metal Sonic]

muffin maybe if you iso your slot you can get a better idea of why everyone dislikes your slot

its not you its your predecessor

anyway i believe you claimed VT or something so its not really unsafe to get you lynched from an objective standpoint

less to lose more to gain

[Metal Sonic]

you can iso elvis knitts in less than 5 mins, trust me. lack of contribution + trashy reasoning + staying under the radar are the 3 reasons which I find to be controversial about elvis(note that I didn't say scum: I had a thought that elvis is "too scummy to be scum")

i believe that slandaar is town

amrun i have to re iso

[Metal Sonic]

amrun has a mix of scummy and towny posts


i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and call him probtown

P-edit wrong, staying under the radar is midly different from lack of contribution

staying under the radar = lurking and/or posting fluff/redirecting attention

lack of contribution = may be active, but full of sh*t in the posts


also if you were town, it means that there are quite a few scum pushing your wagon and thus mislynch. this may require some analysis and

i'm too lazy to do that

considering that there is only 1 scumteam(because of the dethy, logically) and/or SKs, yes they probably know your alignment already so yes there should be scum pushing on you

[Metal Sonic]

@MS,

Calling that scummy makes no sense unless you think all lurkers

who are also posting bad reasoning for their votes and ALSO provide trash reads

are scummy.

^

i will provide postular evidence brb

[Metal Sonic]

Can one of you fine gentlemen be a dear and lay out the case on Titus for Jabarkas?
I'm not quite seeing it as compelling that this moment, and I'd hate for you all to have a ball and for me to miss out it.

-V

Translation:

I want to get on this wagon, but I don't have a case, so can somebody make this easy for me to sheep this wagon.

Around page 9-10...

Jabarkus and Amrun are being pissy.

Jabarkus: what is your case on titus?
Amrun: read my posts
Jabarks: NO U
Amrun: NO U
...X infinity

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Slandaar's unvote worries us. Titus is being a scumfuck and Slandaar is like one of MS's top tier tunnellers. What do you think?

O RLY

Rift and Amrun, you're making this game less fun to play. If you continue to punish creativity, an open atmosphere, and forward-thought, I'm going to make a pretty good case to have you both removed from the game. It's not fun to play with you when half of your posts are cynical, not related to the game, and largely insulting other players.

I find this appeal to emotion very unconvincing given that jabarkus has been calling everybody shitlords.

@Rift: Jabarkas don't think you understand what you're talking about.
Furthermore, being a shitlord isn't relevant to the game. Please play the game.


-V

@Amrun: Jabarkas do not know your case intimately. You do. Post it.
Jabarkas is being as transparent as possible.
Post your case. Concise-like.
Otherwise, Jabarkas does not care for Titus lynch.
Wagon full of shitlords.


@Stubbs: Where are you referring?

-V

I don't know what's happening with this series of events:

Tiphaine thinks somebody tried to dayvig him.
Tiphaine realizes something.
Unvotes Titus.
Votes jabarkus.

I guess I don't understand what Tiphaine realized. Voting jabarkus seems good though.

Also Radioactive wolf is scum.

I don't understand what happened with tiphaine/titus and why they are saying I can't VOTE: jabarkus

I have been half-following events, and while i agree that the lurkers are problematic and there is probably some scum in there, I think lurker lynch for a D1 wagon is weak sauce and tells us nothing, and that people who want to lurker lynch on D1 are potentially scummy.

I guess I should figure out what I think of Stubbs since I gather he is close to lynch?

Ok well i went looking back for the D1 lurker hunters and noticed metalsonic's appearance.

He jumped on the biggest bandwagon with no reasoning and no other reads.

He's scum.

VOTE: metalsonic

:Goes back looking for the D1 lurker lynchers:

Find roflcopter. But I like roflcopter. :,( This isn't enough for me to say rofl is scum, but i'm surprised he would want to do that since lurker lynches on D1 are not productive. Rofl, come vote metalsonic.

Yes, I feel pretty confident in saying the odds of one of the lurkers being scum is pretty much 100%

I want Stubbs to answer my Q tho, before I consider moving on.

Pedit: yeah I'll happily vote baezu too

^^Also this. Opportunistic scum.

each of these quotes from elvis's iso contains an element (or more) of scum which can fall under the 3 broad categories that I have described above.

going in depth for these posts are very troublesome and I will not do it

but yes postular evidence please

explain(I don't think you can, tbh)

comment on what elvis was trying to do in each of these posts

[Metal Sonic]

oriole is an amazing town^

@418 427 430

all of them are 1. fluffy 2. lurky 3. horrible reasoning/logic for voting someone. e.g. "find me a case so i can sheep it" --> why do you need a case if you're planning to sheep?

[Metal Sonic]

Notice where she parks her vote. After posting multiples about Jarbakas scum, she suddenly drops the subject completely and votes me(not knowing I was a lurker myself)

her reasoning for all her votes are poor. her contributions to the town are very poor. you cannot deny these two. you also cannot deny that her actions are blatantly contradictory


this is why the people find you scum. as I already mentioned I find it hard to believe that scum can be this stupid, but facts are there. we won't know your alignment till you flip/get inspected and until then your predecessor has already created enough doubt in your slot to prevent you from reaching a certain point.

[Metal Sonic]

zoidberg ---> AJ ---> zoidberg


YES THIS IS FISHY HMMMMMMM SOME SCUM WERE TRYING TO DERAIL WAGON

yes please talk to oriole


also re:titus accusing amrun(or someone else) in pages 87-90, please note that titus unknowingly throws shit when making arguments and should be pardoned for false premises. thanks in behalf

[Metal Sonic]

@MS,

Um, you realise she did vote for Jabarkas after multiple posts calling him scum, and it wasn't until over 350 posts (14 pages) later that she voted for you, right? I don't know what specifically over the course of those 14 pages changed her mind, but it did, and so she voted elsewhere.

Note that despite Jarbarkas being her biggest scum read by right, she suddenly changed her mind and voted for me?
No trajectory? No mention? No anything?

Even you can't tell what exactly made her change her mind. This in itself is a testament to elvis's broken and irrational logic. Granted, she may not have time for the game. So why not just leave her vote on jabarkas and potentially save all the trouble? why make herself contradictory? why not actually explain her votes seeing as to it only takes a minute to actually post a post of length such of mine right now?



Anyway, what's done is done, fact of the matter is there is irreparable doubt in your slot, and despite your best efforts it will always be there, and scum will capitalise on it. That's all there is.


Needless to say, your play is substantially better than elvis'. I'll take a look at your reads again brb

[Metal Sonic]

I took a look at your reads post and disregarded it entirely because it is not full -- you have not caught up to the game fully when you have made that post. A more holistic read can come after you've completed reading the game.


However, I can still consider your new reads based on your current views on what you've seen (for example from pages 88 up till now) as they are relevant and are firsthand

so if you can make new reads solely based on what you have seen so far in the thread for example my post now etc etc es those can be legit


P-edit tl;dr

[Metal Sonic]

this gets interesting with a guilty

[Metal Sonic]

ok whatever

amrun flip gives more info

VOTE: amrun

[Metal Sonic]

MS is the most useless of the Dethy players. And I'm not sure that's really up to Xenosaga standard, even, anymore.

also this is bullshit

i have good reason to believe that ghost is the scum in the dethy

and if he really is scum then AJ is going to be high on the town list

[Metal Sonic]

i support rofl's decision to withhold his result


pls post in qt right before it closes

[Metal Sonic]

i dont know what this back and forth is all about because tl;dr

but independently i have slandaar as very town and muffin as prob town

so imo its TvT but yes good discussion

[Metal Sonic]

ok what is going on now

lets just lynch amrun JUST BECAUSE


muffin is really good btw but just to eliminate scum possibility once we get our dethy working someone needs to check him

[Metal Sonic]

thats what i meant

except if im naive then its useless because all i am is a mason

[Metal Sonic]

you dont say....


anyway what do we do now? not much discussion that i /want/ to comment on

[Metal Sonic]

the remaining is scum is amrun, muffin, rift and ghost

peace

i disagree with muffin

but for all intents and purposes rift/ghost/amrun is a go

[Metal Sonic]

test


lets have a flip i am bored

[Metal Sonic]

test


lets have a flip i am bored

We don't exist for your fucking amusement.

How about you give us reasons for your reads that aren't just aping ROFL?

lolno


insinuating that im scum does not bring you any closer to your goal, either

you might as well pick someone else to nitpick

meanwhile this game is going slow isnt it

[Metal Sonic]

Just a note, I tend to throw my vote around a lot. I believe it is town's greatest tool.

Wrong. I am town's greatest tool.

[Metal Sonic]

also

VOTE: natarisha

claim early is lol

claim stall is very no

[Metal Sonic]

also

Rift Adrift is going to solidify my scum read on her

I have extensive fferylit + syryana meta

the fact that they are calling me scum + scum pushing me + not using meta

yeah tbh im very sure rift is scum now

will support his wagon if possible at day 3(because not gonna happen today <i think>)

[Metal Sonic]

ffery are you dumb or scum? because I know you're not dumb because I've played ALMOST AS MANY GAMES WITH YOU AS WITH NACHO, unlike AJ who spouts horseshit about meta when she obviously has barely played with anyone from this playerlist.

ya and you too syryana

Furthermore, they are not reasons I cannot disclose. They are reasons I am figuring out

how

to disclose, and while I have admittedly slacked off on it, it has not been forgotten. And I have reached out to others. Including to you. I've reached out to most of the playerbase, most of all, your slot.

You

are the ones not responding to me. Not vice-versa.

obviously hinting at ongoing games bejesus why else would she "meta that cannot disclose"




ya rift im so sorry that we're probably not on the same team and we are nice mates/friends and all and scum has to go


this is what aj means(as i intepret) with being too emotional about games

but no mechanical is fuckin lame and im not actually going to become a literal MECHA SONIC oh no



VOTE: rift adrift


scumreads : rift (almost sure) and natarisha(second priority, his is a scumclaim) and ghostly(the most probable dethy scum(except me and im always town so)

amrun is just a lol sheepy


but yes i caught rift scum bandwagon time ppls

[Metal Sonic]

yaeh it is a scum claim

vote rifty day 3 all right?

VOTE: nat

[Metal Sonic]

then vote her

i want

rifty

scum lynched day 3


i still <3 you ffery + syryana its just a game <3

[Metal Sonic]

ok good

[Metal Sonic]

I finy it very unlikely that me and Natarisha are scum together

I find it unlikely that I can be a scum in a mason group

I find it even more unlikely for these two to be combined together

the chance of me being scum is

square root(-1) =
i

[Metal Sonic]

hey syryanascum,

that was a well done fake/theory post! Good effort!

However, as you know, lynching Metal Sonic from a mason group is a bad target, and you've essentially sentenced yourself to a death later in the game!

Please realise(and put this in your meta of me) that doing this in future is a bad idea!


VOTE: metal sonic

effort vote 4 u

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: amrun

follow the leader




@Rift

ya, maybe you have a point, AJ knows jack shit about your meta

but i do, so when i say you're scum, you're scum

[Metal Sonic]

yeah it is i already agreed with you 99 times on natscum

unless natscum and amrunscum double bus?


idk but yes

VOTE: natarisha

more dangerous (as of what we know)

[Metal Sonic]

a+ bus is what i call it

we will await orders from lieut. rofl tonight re: amrun


kill a definite scum first: natarisha

all on board yep

[Metal Sonic]

considering amrun wagon has a rofl and a muffinman it couldnt go TOOOOO WRONG EITHER



but i get your point

[Metal Sonic]

wagon stall is scummy

[Metal Sonic]

post

still no lynch yet? bs

[Metal Sonic]

ghost your scum play is so different from your town play

[Metal Sonic]

Not rofl/Bro, though.

note:

if natarisha is scum

she wouldnt keep that promise

will try to eat rofl's brain or one htat is suspected to be insane or sane

then get lynched

but at least one cop in the dethy is effectively neutralised

and then the scum in the dethy may still be alive because association tells arent too reliable imo


if there is something wrong with this theory pls tell me



ya ghosty i am funny dw i still <3 you promise

[Metal Sonic]

rift adrift and ghostly are scum together with amrun and

zmuffin

falalala la la la la

^that


also rofl i would prefer lyncing nat

i mean you are town and slandaar is town but both of you want differnt things it is a go-between

and imo nat is a scumclaim(even before slandaar pointing that out) so im staying on that wagon im sorry

[Metal Sonic]

hi guys the mod sent me this


"N2 - investigate Baezu -> fails, cop ability stolen (you can still post in the qt at night)"

please tell me the meaning of this

[Metal Sonic]

This game was good gg

scum pulling off quick hammer was strong