Red Wine Mafia: Game Over

[BBmolla]

Holy shit this is an awesome playerlist

How's my espeonage vote

[BBmolla]

I'll read this tomorrow.

[BBmolla]

Less dota and more catching up sir, your slot does not look good.

Lame

k, one more game.

[BBmolla]

Tomorrow is my day off sorta

So readthrough cpmes then promise

[BBmolla]

Why isn't Pjovek policy lynched yet, I don't want to read his garbage.

[BBmolla]

Also holy shit people underestimate chamber

[BBmolla]

"Chamber is mad! He must be town"

[BBmolla]

Espeonage's posts are all terrible so my vote is in a good place

[BBmolla]

"Chamber is mad! He must be town"

No need to correct them when I'm town anyway though.

It's not your alignment that matters there it's their shit reads

[BBmolla]

TSO is scum too

[BBmolla]

Okay

But nope

[BBmolla]

Like if you wanted me to quote what scumposting looks like I'd link his iSO

[BBmolla]

Pjovek is probably a UN alt fwiw

[BBmolla]

The shitposting is an obvious facade, regardless of whether it's UN

[BBmolla]

I sort of townread Llamarble in spite of the fact this reads are almost the polar opposites of mine

Glad to hear it's not just me, what the fuck is with his reads

[BBmolla]

Can we leave meta reads out of the game until we actually have a decent amount of posts to take something from. Each game is different and town meta is emulatable. They are not reliable as a case or a defense. You can use it to back something you find scummy up, but don't use it as a base.

^Llamarable why the fuck are you defending this

[BBmolla]

Katsuki, Hearthstone open beta next month you'd like it

[BBmolla]

I will, but if I'm going to you need to be open to change, as opposed to tunnelling on your former scumread anyway.

Quote me the case you made already.

I'm the most open-minded guy in the world.

My mind is as open as a lady's legs when she sees my sex appeal.

Vote mindgamer. At least until we get something out of him, then we might actually have something to play with instead of sitting around twiddling our thumbs at L-5.

Okay you got something out of me, now what Espy

[BBmolla]

Town Espy sits there and doesn't contribute anything but shitty theory and side comments?

[BBmolla]

Cause I definitely recall something different.

[BBmolla]

So are we lynching Espeonage or not? I can't tell.

Yes

[BBmolla]

Katsuki is a fucking obvious doctor can we stop talking about him

[BBmolla]

Espeonage's posts are all terrible so my vote is in a good place

BB! Do we finally get to be town together again?!?

Yes. 80% sure.

[BBmolla]

Espeonage's posts are all terrible so my vote is in a good place

BB! Do we finally get to be town together again?!?

Yes. 80% sure.

You're only 80% sure you're town >_>

80% sure you're town silly billy

[BBmolla]

She told me she was town, I don't see any reason not to believe her

[BBmolla]

Cause I definitely recall something different.

Go back and read the first few posts in my iso. And the town meta you are thinking of. I can link you to scum games where I've done that too. Actually, tbh, I usually lurk more in scum games, I get scared to post because I don't want to incriminate myself.

If I'm being honest this seemed kinda town

Not enough to unvote but I thought I'd mention it

[BBmolla]

ABR I guess. Don't really feel the TSO vote anymore, I'm having a hard time reading his play behind his personality.

[BBmolla]

I know that he's the counter wagon and that seems fishy, but from what little I've read of him I felt like he was very tunneled on one read and I feel ABR as a player takes more of a commanding presence in town games.

That's fairly weak but so is my comprehension of this game due to zero isos

[BBmolla]

I've never felt my personality really obscures my alignment. What do you mean?

Unwarranted confidence erks me.

[BBmolla]

yeah I still don't get it

where has me being cocky made me unreadable?

Through my unthorough readthrorough I noted your unwarranted confidence and found it scummy while not noting anything else about you.

Basically it's not a big deal until I can ISO you.

[BBmolla]

Empire I think you're scum atm what do you think of that

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chamber

[BBmolla]

?

What's wrong with it

[BBmolla]

We have five days I want chamber to do something in that period of time

[BBmolla]

I mean, why has it taken you this long to vote him when he was being obviously unhelpful and throwing that in everyone's faces on page 3 and since?

Because he was doing something at first.

But then he went from doing something to nothing with his unvote.

ETL stop misreading me

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ABR

Probably the lynch for today. Espy at least has some town pings.

[BBmolla]

I feel like I'm going to be forced to actually play this game.

You're right forgive me

[BBmolla]

I haven't seen him around since that one post of his.

Show is killing me timewise

[BBmolla]

Hold on, explain like I'm five, I don't follow

[BBmolla]

Spoiler: ~reasons~

T S O

, why do you scumread me?

Albert's play is shamefully lazy but I'm not exactly letting go of my read on Espeonage here. The thing about Espeonage is that none of the meta that I have on him adds up at all. While comparing his early town play to this one, I saw that when Espeonage is town he tends to be genuinely excited and aggressive. His overall play this game comes off not only as lazy - but as really nervous. It feels like to me that Espeonage isn't actually scumhunting but looking for reasons to accuse people. That might sound like a silly sentence but there's a huge difference between the two.

For example, his method of scumhunting in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=22308 is really hyper and erratic. His conclusions of the mafia aren't based on on big analysis but rather through repeated questioning and pressuring. None of that is here.

After reading that ISO, read all of these posts

It comes off to me like he's willing to give up too easily and isn't actually invested in the game short of coasting long enough to get a lynch. I can understand he hasn't played in a year and a half - but it doesn't change the fact that his game is extremely, extremely sloppy and uncomfortable. That is why my vote will at the moment remain on Espeonage.

projectmatt - where did he go? null at best.

I'm leaning scum here, compare chosen vs wingate.

Yeah he reminds me of Chosen.

Tammy? thoughts?

I'm still predisposed to town read Matt after my hammer in wingate. But, other than rate of participation, which is actually similar to Wingate then no. But, here's where I feel good about Matt:

Empire, I am interested in hearing your other townreads but more specifically I am interested in knowing who you have scumreads on apart from Espeonage. Get to that.

The only way I see Matt scum in this situation is if he's scum with empire. I just don't see him scum with a town empire interacting that way. I just don't. I'd have to go back and look at our qt in Chosen, but I'm pretty sure I remember one of the first things we said to each other was how bad our scum games were, so this denotes a level of confidence I don't see a scum him displaying to a town empire. They've been playing together for a while. If I'm not mistaken, they played together quite regularly together at EpicMafia, so I think he would be a little bit more nervous.

cabd - scumfuck, role pm matters not
empire - null/scum
chamber - probtown
tammy - probtown
fferyllt - half of morph what do you expect?
bbmolla - null
TSO - town
Llamarble - I dunno maybe? want to say null because based on reputation I would have expected him to have the game solved by now.
projectmatt - where did he go? null at best.
pjovek - probtown
EspeciallyTheLies - null/town?
Katsuki - town
Albert B. Rampage - null/scum
espeonage - probtown

I already have you as town, but if I didn't, I'd think you were town now from something in your post. Bonus points if someone can tell me why.

BB is looks town here. Like, I haven't felt this good about BB since our pop princess game, we wont' talk about my paranoia on him like day five but that's just par for the course for me :/

I still think that espeonage is scum, and I feel better about matt and marble than you do.

I know this was here for cabd, but

Based on the above, I almost did this last night but wanted to review it in the cold light of day.

- projectmatt's ISO of another espeonage game and the selected posts from this game he contrasts to that ISO are pretty compelling

- Tammy thinks projectmatt is town

- Tammy thinks espeonage is scum.

VOTE: espeonage

What does Tammy's differing opinions mean and why does that lead you to vote espeonage

[BBmolla]

Gotcha, thank you.

[BBmolla]

Llamarble did you possibly have surgery lately? Because your reads indicate you're on drugs.

[BBmolla]

okily dokily

[BBmolla]

ABR is way more obvious scum than Espeonage, just ISO them.

Like I didn't notice just how bad it was, holy jesus ABR what are you doing

[BBmolla]

ETL's suspicion of me is probably genuine, I think she believes me to play to better standards than I've played here.

[BBmolla]

Sure, I have a lot of time, give me a bit though.

In general I think we're on the right track, and I really think ABR is the lynch for today.

[BBmolla]

Sorry about the lack of promised reads ETL, I was playing Dota and by the time I came to read MS was down. Then I went to go check on my girlfriend who has a concussiion and was occupied ever since.

Excuses, but that's why I didn't get you what I promised and I'm sorry.

[BBmolla]

Albert B. Rampage (5): katsuki, pjovek, cephrir, especiallythelies, bbmolla

But look at this.

- I have evidence that convinces me ABR is scum.
- I believe pjovek to be town, and ceph is also very town for me.
- I put katsuki in a null-mostly-leaning-town area.

- BB is the only one I am not feeling good about on the wagon of my choice.

Well I mean I would probably be bussing him if we were buddies here if that makes you feel any better

[BBmolla]

It seems that ETL cannot differentiate detachment from manipulation.

The irony here amuses me

The plea in that post is giving me feels though.

I don't see how not-giving-a-fuck is alignment indicative though.

I think the main issue I have with you ABR is minus this big plea, you're insanely intransparent. I've seen people vote hop, and sometimes it's obvious to see why, where as for you it all seems like a game. "Okay, so X is pressuring me, let me vote him to make him back off. Y is picking up steam let's jump on there..." etc

[BBmolla]

I'm not sure about BBmolla anymore. Doesn't even seem committed to the game enough that I can get a solid read on him.

This is reasonable.

[BBmolla]

?

Gimme a sec I'm literally reading Nati's ISO cause I actually think you're reads are really good atm

[BBmolla]

Btw, ftr, Myko chooses random shit as game names, the last being Lord Patator Charlixion the 6th, a game with a secret cult. So for anyone wondering, Red Wine is probably literally irrelevent.

But seriously, there's gotta be a reason this is a theme game. Lord Patator had hidden cults, but we know this game doesn't. You wanna talk about possible themes, Cabd? Or do you think this was more a sneaky way for mykonian to skip the normal queue line?

^Hence why shit like this looks bad, if it's obvious Lord Patator didn't mean shit, why bother talking about the setup at all when we literally have nothing? It just looks like busytalk.

fffff

I'm not feeling a Nata vote tonight, I'll try to reread more people tomorrow to get a more educated vote.

UNVOTE:

[BBmolla]

Reasoning for not feeling Nata atm: After his early fluffing, everything he posted is content. It's 1 AM, so I can't neccesarily confirm it's legit content, but it looks legit for the most part.

[BBmolla]

Sorry to hear about your girl BB; I hope she heals quickly. I still expect your reads but understandably, as soon as you have time. Hopefully before deadline.

Also.. you were voting Nat? Why..

I wasn't? Llamarble is, I agreed with his reads so I was checking his vote.

I'm hurt that you didn't get the real joke with that post you quoted, Molla.

[BBmolla]

My reads are bad, I have a townread on everyone to a lesser extent minus chamber

SIGH

[BBmolla]

My reads are bad, I have a townread on everyone to a lesser extent minus chamber

SIGH

This post is a post scum me would make.

Okay what does this make you conclude

[BBmolla]

Sure, I have a lot of time, give me a bit though.

In general I think we're on the right track, and I really think ABR is the lynch for today.

Beebs I want to know how sure you feel on this right now.

Iffy. An appeal to lack of connection or whatever you want to call it seems more desperate ABR town move imo. I feel like ABR would be too prideful as scum.

[BBmolla]

My reads are bad, I have a townread on everyone to a lesser extent minus chamber

SIGH

This post is a post scum me would make.

Okay what does this make you conclude

My drawn conclusion is that if you were me you'd definitely be scum, but because you aren't, it still makes me suspicious?

Ok

[BBmolla]

Because I'm behind and skimming and bbmollas post caught my attention. Its entirely possible I simply never read yours. With that said, yours doesn't seem as bad anyway. The wording is more natural, and you are happy with where your vote is, all of which are key differences. BBmolla had just unvoted. The 'SIGH' made it feel very forced, and him saying his reads are shit gives him an excuse to spontaneously change them when he decides who he wants to vote next (if scum).

That's completely counter productive, especially in the position I'm in. If I were scum, I'd be pushing a "strong scumread" by now so that I looked better.

I'm sorry that scum-you looks like genuine-town-me, nothin I can do about that.

[BBmolla]

If Esp is town, 75% certain Ceph is scum. This post is the type of framing case I'd be doing now as scum.

[BBmolla]

Example, see:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4868462

[BBmolla]

ABR what is your read of Ceph, and why do you think I'm scum?

[BBmolla]

I'd think that you'd understand that using self-meta on other players doesn't work by the context of the first post, but here we are, and here you go.

Provide me examples of players doing that sort of framing as town and I'll concede to that.

[BBmolla]

It's possible he completely misunderstood my post in the first place, true.
I'm sorry for assuming he actually answered my post instead of quoting it for shit and giggles.

?

Okay, so I'm saying that I make giant "framing posts" as scum, as Ceph made in that one post.

If you can link me examples of someone doing that as town, I will concede to you its irrelevence as a point.

Comprende?

[BBmolla]

Ah, good point.

[BBmolla]

Okay here is Ceph doing it as scum, but lemme look through some town meta.

What it is is a consistent
"*quote*
Are you serious? So scummy
*quote*
how does that even make sense? Scum."
wall.

@ABR: Potentially if I

had

to choose now, one of you, Katsuki, or Espy, but I really feel gross about all of those and I think I might be on to something.

[BBmolla]

The walls are like I said, a giant framing case. I need more games to get more feedback, I feel like as town when you do quote walls of one person you talk to them and explain to them why they're being absurd, where here and in the scum game I linked you're telling everyone else.

But more data needed. But back to bed for now.

[BBmolla]

Is Ceph scum because he did what BB would do as scum, while BB isn't scum because he did what Chamber would do as scum? That seems hella weird.

The difference being I can prove I don't play as scum the way chamber thinks I do, I'm looking for evidence towards my theory. My theory is coming across pretty iffy though.

[BBmolla]

My theory = ceph is scum who is making a "framing wall," because town don't make these framing walls as far as I have seen.

[BBmolla]

@Ceph: I still think that's different, but pushing this point won't go anywhere so I'm gonna drop it regardless.

P-edit: Cases and "This action this player did could be seen as scummy in this way" are different.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Chamber

[BBmolla]

If you don't like that vote, suck it

[BBmolla]

\o/

[BBmolla]

Fair enough, like I said, not strong enough to bother pushing, I'm sure if Ceph is scum it'll show elsewhere soon enough.

[BBmolla]

A man can dream can't he

[BBmolla]

My vacation is being cut short a day so I will actually be around Sunday for reals.

Espeon llamarble are my two targets though.

Lyncher confirmed

[BBmolla]

I found Empire's ISO worse than Nati's, Nati's stuff is what has me hesitating on the slot.

[BBmolla]

I want ABR over Esp atm

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ABR

Don't want accidental hammer

[BBmolla]

Llama there was a hammer dood

[BBmolla]

BBmolla
FFery
CEphrir
CAbd

Lets do one of these.

Uh

no

[BBmolla]

Chamber is not normally this bad as town

Like what the fuck is he even talking about

[BBmolla]

Maybe I just thought you were better cause I was scum when you were town and so I knew you were town

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Guyett

Stop being terrible.

[BBmolla]

ETL is scum btw

[BBmolla]

I doubt it! Kiiiinda my strongest townread right now!

This is a bad sign.

[BBmolla]

If Esp is town, 75% certain Ceph is scum. This post is the type of framing case I'd be doing now as scum.

Man I'm awesome

pew pew pew

[BBmolla]

Yeah, I'm thinking if we have 4v11 it's one of those "If town lynched D1 scum must choose a member to die" or whiteflag or some weakening mechanism like that.
Anyhow, I think I'll catch up here this evening.

Holy shit

I'm actually nearly willing to bet this is what it is

[BBmolla]

The posts from Llamarbe that I read when I replaced in looked super obv town. Tbh I'd be looking at ESP for scum

IIRC, Ceph-Scum = Esp-Town

But it was like a week long night so I'd have to reread to know why

[BBmolla]

We should look at whoever the fuck argued againt my argument too

[BBmolla]

I'm now totally in the town-BBmolla camp.

\o/

[BBmolla]

The posts from Llamarbe that I read when I replaced in looked super obv town. Tbh I'd be looking at ESP for scum

IIRC, Ceph-Scum = Esp-Town

But it was like a week long night so I'd have to reread to know why

Can you elaborate.

It's actually really weak, I think literally all it comes down to is this:

If Esp is town, 75% certain Ceph is scum. This post is the type of framing case I'd be doing now as scum.

Basically Ceph interpreted all Espy's actions as scummy. It'd have been more telling if Espy flipped town, not so much the other way around I don't think. Does that make sense?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: ETL

Who is espy's report on?

And why is he scum?

[BBmolla]

Jailkeeper traditionally comes under Protected. NEXT

Clarify with mod please.

[BBmolla]

Pjovek, Chamber isn't talking out his ass, he's got stuff to support what he's saying.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Natirasha

[BBmolla]

I voted scum and they're panicking

[BBmolla]

Totes didn't see that one coming.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So SelecT XDD

[BBmolla]

I could go for a Pjovek lynch, but not until Nati gives me a reason to unvote

[BBmolla]

Pjovek you seem to be taunting chamber because he doesn't have "legitimate reasons," do you think him having a gut feeling you're smug ass scum is not legit?

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pjovek

L-1 I think

[BBmolla]

I've been really lazy today

I think the Pjo wagon is okay, I don't think we should lynch Katsuki

[BBmolla]

Why would it end the game, there's probably 4 scum

Unless it's 3 scum and a lyncher or some wierd shit that myko would definitely pull

[BBmolla]

I'm BBmolla and I'm still okay with this lynch.

[BBmolla]

One or both of Ffery/Cabd are scum I think

[BBmolla]

Okay. I do recall Ffery being townish, statement is based quite literally off of looking at yesterday's wagon

[BBmolla]

Convince me on Katsuki, would be more willing to go TSO atm

[BBmolla]

Why did our elite bodygaurd not kill anyone, ideas?

[BBmolla]

Disregard me, I'm dumb

[BBmolla]

Katsuki if this is your only game, do me a favor and solve it for me.

[BBmolla]

Okay well one of you are scum. Your huge over reaction isn't helping your case dude, that's like all of what ANything Goes was

[BBmolla]

Okay well one of you are scum.

EH, neither are in my top 4.

Then you need to stop them

[BBmolla]

BMolla posted something I thought sounded super town on day 2. I should take another hard look at him.

You can prod me for stuff, I'm honestly just really apathetic because nobody is screaming scummy to me.

[BBmolla]

I think I'm also uncomfortable because of lack of strong strong strong townreads

[BBmolla]

I will be around and am open to flashwagon but I have nooooo idea why you'd pick projectmatt. He's like pretty average.

When is the deadline on the 1st?

Willing to lynch list in no particular order:
Nati (but why?)
Katsuki (but why?)
espeon
ABR
ffery
TSO

Chamber how do you feel about Nati atm?

[BBmolla]

Oops ignore that. Was isoing Cephrir to find connections.

[BBmolla]

His lack of Projectmatt mention might be telling?

[BBmolla]

Well more specifically, his Projectmatt read goes from "Why the hell should I think he's town" to not anywhere on his scumlist

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TSO

[BBmolla]

TSO, Pmatt, Katsuki, Cabd

^Scum is in there imo. Nati potentially, but his recent stuff screams town imo

[BBmolla]

Well I'm voting TSO

TSO or Pmatt is where I'd want to go today

[BBmolla]

Pmatt due to Ceph's wierd opinions on him

[BBmolla]

Yeah that shit was wierd.

[BBmolla]

If it's Traitor + Goon, more than likely makes him the Traitor though.

[BBmolla]

Here

[BBmolla]

What does this lack of activity say about our votes

[BBmolla]

What an awful post

[BBmolla]

BBmolla is sort of flying under the radar in spite of the fact him and his predecessors play has been slightly lackluster.

Right back at you

[BBmolla]

[BBmolla]

^This shit seems really fake

[BBmolla]

God fucking dammit how is he still alive?

More this than that part

[BBmolla]

Hm

Activity fucking died like this back in myko's last game, maybe a similar situation is occuring?

I'll go look and see what was happening that activity was so dead

[BBmolla]

I'm just kind of at a loss that people are just kind of like "Meh, okay lynch this guy."

[BBmolla]

If you're right about Katsuki I can live with being lynched.

If not, then you aren't touchin me kid.

[BBmolla]

*shrug*

I'm not going to sit around letting you set up mislynches doge

[BBmolla]

@mod: V/LA till the 2nd

[BBmolla]

[BBmolla]

Nope

[BBmolla]

Any particular reason not to no lynch here?

[BBmolla]

So I'm town, you're town, that's a good start

Ffery is town? And then we just have to find the one town in the rest of the three.

[BBmolla]

Samesies

[BBmolla]

What a random bunch of power roles.

Fair enough, I agree with Matt most likely being scum. Nat has pinged me as town at points, and Cabd has been pretty nullish to me all game. So possible only three scum with Matt being final scum and one of Nat/Cabd being a wierd third party like Reporter or some shit?

[BBmolla]

We should assume 2 scum. I just don't think it is 2 scum.

[BBmolla]

Didn't see him much.

[BBmolla]

Well, didn't pay attention to him much.

[BBmolla]

We really shouldn't have let Pmatt claim last, he's probably going to claim Cop

[BBmolla]

espeonage, mafia godfather, lynched day 2

^

[BBmolla]

Not particularly, knowing myko and the current site meta, but it would have been the perfect fakeclaim for scummatt.

[BBmolla]

If I'm scum it means I soft bussed both my partners

Why do that when I could hard bus and not look like shit?

[BBmolla]

See the major red flag for me today is "what is the town motivation for saying that scum-projectmatt would fakeclaim cop before he's claimed" because the only thing it serves to do is cast doubt on a potential cop claim.

Because I foresaw it coming as a fake claim and had Scum-Pmatt claimed it he almost assuredly would have coasted to endgame.

I doubted a cop surviving this long and failing so hard as to not have claimed earlier.

[BBmolla]

And why not wait until after he had claimed to note this?

"I'm a cop"
"He could have fake claimed that as scum easy cause of Godfather"
"Why didn't you say that sooner, shut up Molla."

[BBmolla]

See the major red flag for me today is "what is the town motivation for saying that scum-projectmatt would fakeclaim cop before he's claimed" because the only thing it serves to do is cast doubt on a potential cop claim.

Because I foresaw it coming as a fake claim and had Scum-Pmatt claimed it he almost assuredly would have coasted to endgame.

I doubted a cop surviving this long and failing so hard as to not have claimed earlier.

You could have shored up a town-projectmatt read for yourself and possibly for other players if you had waited.

How do you feel about him now?

Still probably top canidate for scum

You guys must seriously think I'm scum to be attacking me for something as dumb as that

[BBmolla]

You're town, Guyett is town, I have lesser townreads on Cabd/Nati.

PoE.

[BBmolla]

Actually with our PRs it's probably 4 scum
ffffff

[BBmolla]

I really want to say Myko has some wierd third party but I have zero idea what it would be.

[BBmolla]

I don't think I'm going to go anyone but Nati or Pmatt today. Unless someone who can read Cabd better than I has a strong scumread on him they could explain.

[BBmolla]

Which leaves me with you, Guyett, Molla to sort.

Then you actively think Matt is town, why?

[BBmolla]

RE: 310: How often do you think town ask others about their townstatus, as pmatt did?

I see it from either alignment way too much to take it into all that much consideration honestly.

I know it wasn't directed at me, but still.

[BBmolla]

And speaking of BBmolla, I think he is more than likely mafia. On top of having a pretty unnatural few days (as well as Mindgamer's slot), he's the only slot that failed to continually towntell, honestly.

ok

[BBmolla]

Myko when is deadline?

[BBmolla]

Cabd you are aware that we're possibly in MYLO right?

[BBmolla]

I don't think it's MYLO personally, but the possibility is why I mentioned pseudo votes. I just want people choosing sides and giving reasons. Do you disagree the FYPOV scum is PM or me?

I think it's PM and probably Nati if there is two.

[BBmolla]

The thing is Cabd, this was a 15 player game, we have three fairly strong power roles (every single one can kill scum) while scum appear to have pretty shitty power roles.

I don't know what role a last scum could possibly be to balance that out.

[BBmolla]

I don't know.

Ffery, two scum, I'm not one of them, who are they?

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Okay guys come on can we please start posting

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Who is number two and do you think it's two scum

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That's fine, I'm saying theoretically if I came out as confirmed town right now who are they

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Ffery literally every flipped PR has potential to kill scum. With Bus Driver capable of killing even more.

For someone to think there is only 3 scum is absurd.

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No offense to anyone in that game, but it contained a lot of players who I feel pretty comfortable reading. As opposed to this game where you have Katsuki, Chamber, you, etc.

Also it was a Micro, this is a large

Also I started in that game, and replaced into that one

Also I had a lot of power because people were pretty confident in me being town (I was night killed, doc protected, and cop checked night 1), this game is obviously not that way

I also had a huge drive to policy lynch a player, so that helped my posting.

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I do think your case comes from a pretty townish place which is depressing.

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It means I'm wrong and that's a very depressing thought at this point because it means I have to actually try to do stuff

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That game like finished today are you stalking me

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Why do you think that post makes Matt look worse?

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Just kidding, you had the same reaction as I.

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Cause read the post that's quoted

We should probably be lynching Nati today imo

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If you're town that's a good vote tbh

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I do think your case comes from a pretty townish place which is depressing.

^

Where Guyett and ffery are already town that means...

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I do think your case comes from a pretty townish place which is depressing.

^

Where Guyett and ffery are already town that means...

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I can quote it again if you'd like

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here

IF PROJECT MATT IS TOWN THAT PROBABLY MEANS THAT THE TWO SCUM ARE YOU AND NATI BECAUSE I THINK GUYETT AND FFERY ARE TOWN AND A TOWNREAD ON PROJECTMATT MEANS BY DEFAULT THE SCUMTEAM IS YOU AND NATI SO ME THINKING NATI IS A GOOD VOTE AND YOU BEING A GOOD VOTE MAKES SENSE

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Cause read the post that's quoted

We should probably be lynching Nati today imo

How in the hell did you get Nati-town from this

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That was my point. So you're saying nati-me makes sense as the scumteam? Because lol ok.

I'm less sure on you, more sure on Nati, hence we should lynch Nati.

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You should do the same thing for me

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I'm slowly working through other isos. there will probably be a couple more walls sometime today.

any sign of this?

You should do the same thing for me

Are you guys finished with your reviewing? Am I holding the game up?

Are you expecting me to unearth treasure as I dig back through the game?

Yes

I'm also kind of waiting for you to realize I'm town so we can go from there

Cause if you think I'm scum then town is in trouble

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I'm just gonna say inb4 Cabd/Nati and will do a "toldyouso" postgame.

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Look how he talks to nacho and throws out his scumreads, and then look here.

wat

I don't recall foreseeing an incoming mislynch on myself to lose the game in Marketplace

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I probably would have voted by now if I were scum fwiw

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Me pre culted and me post culted might be worth a look?

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Myko I'm not self voting dude

fixed, sorry

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Tammy was super confident I'm town

I remember Tammy being super super town, but I could have been wrong and she could have just seemed town cause she was calling me town.

idk.

I'm not scum dudes. Please don't lynch me.

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Not scum, probably gg.

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Any scumteam with either Ffery or Guyett I'm okay losing to.

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I'm sorry for looking scummy I guess?

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I can't really say I'm surprised, how about that.

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I called it TvT and was actually town!

I'm quoting this game every time someone says that "TvT" is a scumtell

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I'm sorry fellas.