Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Lush Life]

hi guys

hey yourself

[Lush Life]

hi guys

hey yourself

bork?

It's a Blantons night!

yep it's me

Dogfish head 90 min

@Kaze: meh

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@Lushlife what is it like?

What's what like? the beer? it's like a delicious hop massage

@morph - you guys know ufo or what's up?

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hi guys!

whats going on

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hi guys!

whats going on

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hey kaze I actually agree with you that gaiden might be town based on meta but what made him single him out to you?

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My charming avatar. My way with words. There are so many reasons.

tell me all of them

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I kicked Cabd in the shins.

Thank you.

hey kaze I actually agree with you that gaiden might be town based on meta but what made him single him out to you?

He self-voted. I hate that. Then I realized he was probably just doing his thing, so I did all that jazz to be sure.

and after all of that you for sure think is town?

I mean it didn't take long like did you really read all 4 games in less than 30 minutes?

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its too early for a chainsaw cabd

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kaze, and you actually read them?

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kaze, and you actually read them?

Yes. You insinuating that I didn't do so?

well yeah

are you going to get super omgusy and vote us?

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It really doesn't take long to analyze a bunch of opening posts - especially with a small sample size. I started pulling up games as soon as he self-voted, so.

and you read them in less than 30 minutes?

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its too early for a chainsaw cabd

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you go do that

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Majiffy.

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Majiffy.

Cute.

Sweet.

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Majiffy.

Cute.

Sweet.

tout suite

au contraire.

what's the rush?

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more of a free association than a rush.

bork looks pretty town. How townie are you feeling?

I feel like I wanna ask you what would you do if I claimed scum!

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gaiden where did you go

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ufo might be legit guyz like srsly legit

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claim ufo! claim so that your pokemon site can clear you!

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I think I want kaze to be town

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There's stuff going on. You should talk about it.

can you tell me what it is

I haven't put on my pink srsbsns mob cap yet so I haven't been paying attention sry

Next time you see beast charizard, ask him if he remembers getting fucking owned by cabd back on pokegym's 20 player game.

It's cute because most of the players there are ones that learned back in the glory days of pokegym WW.


Aaaaaanyways, nostalgia aside, your meta checks out. Fair warning, the standards here are a billion times higher than PO.

cabd were you town or scum in that game

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but I don't think kaze is town. like I WANT him to be but

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how do I owe you a question cabd?

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yeah I still do not get how I owe you a question

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You don't. You owe me an answer.

cos cabd was crowing about it. and he asked for a question not an answer.

sometimes I get the impression that cabd does not feel confident as town. I am wondering why he is purporting a scum game

it is where he seems to feel the most in his element

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VOTE: morph

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I'm heading out to work a 10-10 and Fish is doing the same IIRC; content from us later.

Morph and Lush--we're town. Are you guys town?

Because if you're town, and we can sort that out quickly, the scum are borked (hahagetit). So let's not dilly-dally, yeah?

- Des

we're town!

muffinman, dramallama, that pie thing and kiserooni are people of interest

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From the game I played with Bork, I don't think he had a post that didn't include the words "Idiots" or "Fuck" so it might be easier to spot him!

To be fair, while I did swear a lot and be purposefully abrasive, I 1) was scum and 2) tried not to cross the line of actually insulting people.

I think you'll find I'm the nice one of the three

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I haven't put on my pink srsbsns mob cap yet so I haven't been paying attention sry

You were serious out of the gate in my game, and extremely proactive with it to boot. Why not here?

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I'd yell at you, but bork's gonna do it for me when he gets back.

I think you've played with mollie enough to see this in the proper light

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Dogfish head 90 min

I drank a whole growler of that on Christmas.

Along with a large bottle of carbonated Ommegang Hennepin.

And an Ommegang BPA.

Needless to say, I had a hangover at work.

Which reminds me, I still have 3 BPAs and a Southern Tier 2X IPA downstairs... HMMMMM

bork and I are in-thread drinking budd...er masons.

I chortled IRL.

Mass experiment, please do:

@are you scum?
@ are you sure you're not scum?
@Are you town?
@ Are you sure you're not town?

Varsoon exempted, I don't want him to get banned again~

@1 - Don't think so.
@2 - No. I think I was drunk when I read our role PM so I don't really know.
@3 - I generally like to run off that assumption.
@4 - Much deceive. Very trickery. Wow.

No pagetop for giffy

GIF isn't in this game?
And I wasn't around?

So...?

Oh wait maybe he's the mod.

Majiffy.

Cute.

I thought so, too.

I will be sure to give them both spankings because I don't know if it was Bork or Mollie that decided to pull this one.
I'm leaning Bork.

Literally a new player
like
literally

You're

probably

either going to hate me, be terrified of me, or both.

Preferably both.

Today has been a bad day, even my town role pm didn't cheer me up that much. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

I don't like the self-referential "I have a town role PM!" shit.

You will, in the near future, probably have to spend a period of time getting a townread from Bork and Mollie, and then another period of time begging them to pull me off your neck and bark down the sizable wagon I have accumulated upon you.

Just so that you know what will be going on this day phase so you can prepare.

Or jiffy. Or both in a MMF threesome shouting match.

That's just the foreplay.

Nice to see everyone is acquainted, Lush Life should start tagging who on their hydra is speaking to make things easier for us!

Jiffy is the one with the full grammar and punctuation, as well as impeccable spelling, throughout his posts.
Mollie has a fun edge with a hidden blade of "imma get you!".
Bork is sarcastic and goading.

gl;hf.

Lush Life should start tagging who on their hydra is speaking to make things easier for us!

Condescending text with punctuation and proper structure is the realm of Majiffy.
condescending text like this tho= Mollie
Everything else = Bork

Yeah ok close enough.

From the game I played with Bork, I don't think he had a post that didn't include the words "Idiots" or "Fuck" so it might be easier to spot him!

I will be the easiest to spot, by far.

I'm not a fan of meta. Too big a playerlist to meta everyone anyway.

VOTE: Kaze

Oh you're going to love us.

Lol.

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Fear not, your Jifficus Lord and Savior has arrived to teach you all how to lynch scum.

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Also there's still like 7 people left to check in. What if all the scum are among those 7? No point in arguing til then.

dear kise,

I do not wanna bus you but I can't help it if you make obscenely scummy posts like this!

plz try harder

love,

your scummate mollie

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Today has been a bad day, even my town role pm didn't cheer me up that much. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

I don't feel so great with your PM claim.

IIRC you've done this quite a number of times. And almost certain you've always lied with this.

put up or stfu

I am not yelling at you I am asking you to substantiate this cos I can get super duper weird on rememory mostly cos I think kise is trying to soft bus him or get him to step up his game probably both.

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Can't tell if trolling, scum or oblivious.

I feel immortal in this hydra.

I AM IMMORTAL!!!!!

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If this is Majiffy I'm gonna hate myself.

It's bork. But I agree with this. He wasn't the only one to do this though.

Commence self-hate. That was a Jiffy.

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Can't tell if trolling, scum or oblivious.

...Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeee.....-es?

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don't ignore me tsusakiwhatever your name is!

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don't ignore me tsusakiwhatever your name is!

I would like to call the slot Teriyaki myself.

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like those grain things that get stuck on your pants after rain which I dunno what you call

wat

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VOTE: Remembrance

I think it's time.

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The fuck is this shit?

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It's called "Spanish Needles"

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Life: It's games from way back that I'm not too hype on digging through.

then why bring it up

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That'd be Mollie questioning you.

I'm Majiffy, and I'm voting Remembrance for reasons already stated.

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I'm bringing it up because it still has a bit of significance

It may be rusted significance, but further observations will help.

And if you're questioning it
Why did you vote for remembrance?

I find this weird since I am asking you to put up or stfu

its like you do not want to follow through with what you are saying

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Jiffy is going to sleep.

Goodnight all.

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I'm just saying that I would wait for Rem
And observe him even more

Because a push today would pretty much void ALL of this

but that isn't what you were saying at all!

you said that you spotted something in rememory and it had to do with other games and you thought it was scummy.

I am asking for proof

and now you are trying to backpedal out of the convo!

I have some experience with rememory (I adore him btw) so you have a willing ear and yet you are not following through!

put up or get lynched.

I don't want you to shut up right now I want you to produce.

do it.

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plz don't interfere with my scumhunting!

if some1 is an alt and they want to throw suspicion around I want to understand where they are coming from!

don't you?

eta: mac is asleep and I find it weird that you guys do not know this

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touché

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but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?

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but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?

Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.

I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.

so who is in it?

I do want to ask you mollie if you've ever had scumdesp be the one to reach out to you first.

not in castle!

but why are you asking me this? I am pretty sure you guys can read desp w/o me

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Tell me about morph?

i dunno. i'm not seeing anything morph is doing as particularly town - everything they've done looks easily fake-able and nothing's come across as alignment indicative so far

i'm null on them and don't really get the town read

are you getting weird on them? I could totally get weird on them now

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in other newz does anybody find it strange that kaze has put muffinman as town with so few posts? I mean unless he is the rail to his tracer it seems entirely inappropriate.

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To be clear, I'm not discriminating over join dates. In reply to 256, I never ran into you 2 last year or the end of 2012. It's strange for me not to remember anything important, eventful or progressive from an 80+ poster who isn't threadshitting, especially with the game being less than a full day old.

are you in a hydra with nero cain known as gollum

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Tell me about morph?

i dunno. i'm not seeing anything morph is doing as particularly town - everything they've done looks easily fake-able and nothing's come across as alignment indicative so far

i'm null on them and don't really get the town read

this confuses me and blows up my plan to nab scum by p10

also why are there not more votes on rememory?

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confuses you how?

you are being reticent certainly nothing like the player I got into a pissing match with in xeno

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Holy shit seriously? He hasn't even posted!

So uh guys that care. Townslip?

why are you deflecting off of that he pointed out that you guyz said that jaqun is on it when he hasn't even posted by giving a "townread" for a "townslip" when it kinda looks like he is pointing out that you scumslipped?

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you are being reticent certainly nothing like the player I got into a pissing match with in xeno

i don't like the way this game has started

talk to me muffin even if you are an sk like dexter I will still like you!

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Patchouli Knowledge (who's with Jaqen Hghar) is now

mod-confirmed town

with one less life

.

I saw it and I didn't know what it meant!

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My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly, but that theory was clearly flawed. You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

I think your theory is probably dead on like look who noticed it

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VOTE: morph

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and if anybody starts in with that crap about how townie it is to point that out I will freaking dropkick them in their kneecaps

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I thought you meant bubba was townslipping.

Good night.

I really wanted to play with you kise. I am even trying to be nice!

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well mebbe not the threatening to dropkick people in their kneecaps but other than that I was trying!

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talk to me muffin

normally at this stage i'd expect to have a fair few reads i'm somewhat confident about and it's not happening in this game

its okay dexter. just plz make sure hit scum okay? otherwise I won't be able to protect you!

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Hey. Hey mollie. Bubba noticed it too so that makes him my scumbuddy right?

he also said he had no clue what it meant yeah?

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I also remember someone quoting it with earlier in the post saying Flavor has no aspect. So I had no clue as well.

also this argument would be utterly retarded if I was town reading you

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So really all you've done is essentially replaced moprh the cat for cabd for a while. If that's what you wanted to do, congrats!

this is what you posted:

and if anybody starts in with that crap about how townie it is to point that out I will freaking dropkick them in their kneecaps

Bork has approximately 12 hours to talk some sense into you.

I read it. I asked Cabd what the fuck it meant. I went to my own role PM to check the wording. And the light dawned.

I'm slow, but I'm evidently not as slow as you.

you are teh 1 who started off with insults. and then you go passive aggressive with victim play? lol

that combined with cabd's hyper activity when he looooooves to play scum

yeah that is why I am scumreading you!

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So mollie, do you have any idea how much of a total bitch you are to ffery sometimes? She's townreading you but for fuck's sake girl; your antagonistic snipes at her in game after game are creating a toxic wasteland. Perhaps you think it's the best way for you to read her, but all you're achieving is pissing her off and ensuring I'm playing alone the next few IRL days.

post the antagonistic snipes that fery objects to

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So, you wanna bitch at us and take potshots at us? Fine. Aim at me. I'm right here, be as much of an asshat as you want towards me.

where are the potshots?

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So mollie, do you have any idea how much of a total bitch you are to ffery sometimes? She's townreading you but for fuck's sake girl; your antagonistic snipes at her in game after game are creating a toxic wasteland. Perhaps you think it's the best way for you to read her, but all you're achieving is pissing her off and ensuring I'm playing alone the next few IRL days.

post the antagonistic snipes that fery objects to

Fuck if I know. She left. It's now me. Alone. Until she calms down. In a few days. Since neither of you will tell me what the actual fuck your backstory behind all this is, I'm going to merely assume you're both to blame and go from there.

so are you saying that I did not snipe at fery?

you go through our iso and find me where I was insulting to her. I am pretty sure that the post I posted was the first insult thrown. <---- that was her.

/not my problem

except she is melting down in full-blown victim mode which usually reads as scummy to me especially since it is misapplied.

are you guys going to do what buldey and her did in xeno1?

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But if I had to guess, the fact that you scumread us for actually reading the whole fucking game would be a good start. But given the shit that went down in pick and ban; it's more like this game is the last straw. Whatever truce you two had just went up in flames I'm pretty sure. She won't tell me what caused it, you won't tell me what caused it, so I don't care.

I'm moving on now.

noting went down in pick and ban

I made like a handful of posts

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have no clue why ffery is townreading me, strangely

Would you like to know why I townread you? As for her, I have an idea of why but I'll ask her next time she's on gtalk.

she is on gtalk right now

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here is the thing cabd

she throws tantrums like this as scum

I still say it is passive aggressive bullshit especially since she is the 1 who started this.

since you know her role pm you can clear shit up which is what you are trying to do?

I am not convinced. and I find it weird that you are saying that you have no idea what this is about (and you do!) and she has given you the moniker.

the only thing that gives me pause is that you are trying to form a town consensus.

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morph isn't town guyz

I wish you could see it

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and if anybody starts in with that crap about how townie it is to point that out I will freaking dropkick them in their kneecaps

Bork has approximately 12 hours to talk some sense into you.

Why do you always expect Bork to do the heavy lifting? What am I in this hot and saucy threesome, the good-looking one?
I knew it. They just wanted me for my body.

Also, you're cut off from the Mollie. Both of you will be dealing with

me

for the indefinite future.

I'm confused as to the source of this tension.

Long story.

Hi Jiffy.

Please note the lack of punctuation and capitalization in the quoted sentence. Then note the presence of punctuation and capitalization in these sentences. That post was not a JiffyPost.

what i had in my head while reading the last page

Lol'd. Thank you for that.

I don't like the self-referential "I have a town role PM!" shit.

^^^ this

Hey, remember how I caught you that one time for being a scummy little scumbutt?

We're lynching Bubba today. Glad I could have your support.

Aam received no notification of game start!

Wait you're a thing?

Ooookay.

Be productive if you're going to be conftown.

The case on remembrance slot feels like it might be legit.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rem-slot

Uh, what case?


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Town
{

morph, Kaze

,

Muffin

,

Jaqen thing

}

Scum
{Remembrance,

bubbajack

,

Kise, Kagami

}

VOTE: Bubbajack

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P:Edit: Hey Jiffy how well did voting me work out last time?

Idk, were you lynched? If so; then I guess it worked out great.

VOTE: Remembrance-slot

Vote bubba.

I see now. Well, mod didn't include that in the original

Votecount:

post from the previous page, so when I was up reading, GIF was editing all that stuff in. Can't we just flash lynch Rem and skip a replacement? Let's do something fun for once and live with no regrets.

Earn a townread by voting Bubba.

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I believe you skipped over some posts/ignored me.
But yeah, bubba+morph might be a thing.
Rem doe...

I read your posts. They were dumb.

Vote Bubba.

That one. Rem says he has a trust tell that he's only defied once that he calls himself town as town. He calls himself town and does not get modkilled.

That's dumb, and also a null-tell.

Trust tells should result in a modkill regardless of the player's alignment, otherwise it makes for an anti-trust tell in and of itself, dig?

Vote Bubba.

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Because he's exhibiting behaviors that I believe strongly correlates with the expected behaviors of scummy mc scumbutts.

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P:Edit: Hey Jiffy how well did voting me work out last time?

Idk, were you lynched? If so; then I guess it worked out great.

Games over. I was town.

Holy shit Majiffy get out of my ass. I know you love to hate me, but for real brah.

P:edit; Pretty sure you said that last time. -_-

Maybe you should stop playing like a scummy mc scumbutt, then. Have you considered that?

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Computing...

Computing...


Request denied.

[Lush Life]

Ok.

Well to help your advertising campaign, you should self-vote. Then when you flip town, you'll have two mislynches to point to!

Hooray, teamwork!

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The argument against bubba is that he made a joke about the IC and then said he didn't realize he was an IC?

No. I am collecting a mental note on all the scummy things he has said in the last 24 hour period. I believe I'm well over 6 by now.

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Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

I was assuming you'd have a town role PM, but once again you seem to be playing like a scumbutt.

I refuse to self vote. I'm not going to get mislynched to prove my point.

Last time I attempted to do that I was practically force replaced.

It's ok, I'll be gentle.

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Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

I was assuming you'd have a town role PM, but once again you seem to be playing like a scumbutt.

Which is what you thought LAST time I had a friggin town PM.

I refer you to my earlier suggestion of not playing like a scumbutt.

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Spoiler: Bubba's Entire ISO.

I'm not a fan of meta. Too big a playerlist to meta everyone anyway.

VOTE: Kaze

190 posts into the game; his first post does not actually comment on anything relevant but makes a sweeping statement to discredit meta arguments as a whole, with a meta-heavy playerlist.

Want ones i've replaced out of as well?

Last post I read. I have no clue where I posted my vote... UNVOTE:

There's more then one page re-reading.

Literally two posts later. No clue where he put his vote?

LMFAO
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Are you really arguing about if he read meta still?
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Oh my.
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I thought this was a joke post.
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why?
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I think I agree.....
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I do already love this Hydra(?)
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Messed up and didn't read anything except page 1. Lol.

Avoids any conversation about anything relevant, makes a lot of awkward comments and meaningless fluff posting.

ffferllt and gif was SoS <3 Seriously one of my favorite hydras. Anywho. You must be pretty good if I think you're town again.

Still don't care too much for meta though.

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If this is Majiffy I'm gonna hate myself.

It's bork. But I agree with this. He wasn't the only one to do this though.

Two "opinions" that don't go against the grain. Again, adds nothing to the game.

This.
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Majiffy's town -_-
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I'm usually the VI.
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God no.
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I swear I unvoted. UNVOTE:

More meaningless nothingposting.

We just finished saying we don't like it when people say things like this.
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I hadn't read past page 1. New things were posted. I noticed more then 1 page. I then had no clue where I even posted. I then caught up. (
Posted means page number by the way, not who it was on.
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I think this is pro-town.
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I so want to go chart this now.
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Except for when those town read players are scum
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There's nothing posted but a big red X why do you like it?
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Holy shit seriously? He hasn't even posted!

Scummy as fuck post, but we'll get into that separately in the next spoilered section.

? I was making a joke at the fact he's "mod-confirmed"
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He's mod confirmed lol.
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I also remember someone quoting it with earlier in the post saying Flavor has no aspect. So I had no clue as well.
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Not to self. Kneecaps are a thing in this game, get guards.

Play dumb, finish with an awkward joke like you're in with the cool kids.

I also referenced a quote by someone else yeah. Noticing it is not alignment indicative.
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Hi Jiffy.
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Me too.
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Let me find it.

First page.

P:EDIT STOP POSTING JESUS

More non-confrontational try-to-look-helpful nothing posting.

NO I was confused on if Jaqen was actually mod confirmed or if flavor was unrelated.

So at first you were making a joke that he was mod confirmed and now you're confused about it.

See bolded.

When I saw it I wasn't sure. morph brought it up as her only town read so I was joking / asking if it was because if he was "confirmed" If you want to try to see further then that. Then try. If you want to keep asking me questions go for it. I'm an open book.
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What's LT?
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. People are saying she's scummy, and she specifically throws my name out. :shiftyeyes:
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It would be easier if you pointed out why.

Only content he's made so far has been defending himself.

384 posts into the game, and his 9th.

Where did it look like it. Where I said "I also referenced a quote by someone else yeah. Noticing it is not alignment indicative."

That's discrediting. I stand by it as well. It's also a jab at morph for thinking it was alignment indicative. I also was making reference to the fact I wasn't the only one who noticed it.
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He uh replaced out.

@Mod: why was this edited. Also I unvoted here

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And here

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Love you Gif.

P:Edit: Hey Jiffy how well did voting me work out last time?

Buzzwording, then a lot of "look busy and helpful" do nothing, followed up by a soft-discredit of my vote on him.

The amount of the word town in Varsoon's post concerns me.

"Oh yeah saying town was a thing earlier I bet I could look pro-town by pointing this out"

More nothing.

Games over. I was town.

Holy shit Majiffy get out of my ass. I know you love to hate me, but for real brah.

P:edit; Pretty sure you said that last time. -_-

Then begins the "You mislynched me once and that is obviously alignment-indicative to my role PM this game" defense.

I don't consider my play scummy. Maybe you should except MY play is MY fucking play and move on.

More mislynch defense. Also, testy much?

Then make this mistake again. I fucking dare you.

I think I'm going to start advertising myself as the person Majiffy can't read.

Someone's getting awfully riled up about Majiffy voting them.

With no other votes on them.

Isn't this what they call "cracking under pressure"? I think so, too.

It's because Majiffy no likey bubba's play.
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Bring it the fuck on. This is a drastic change from you saying you were going to ignore me.

Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

Strawman, and more mislynch defense.

I refuse to self vote. I'm not going to get mislynched to prove my point.

Last time I attempted to do that I was practically force replaced.

More nothing.

Why hasn't he even pushed for me to post my reasons for voting him yet? Probably because he doesn't want the wagon to catch on. Because he's scum.

Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

I was assuming you'd have a town role PM, but once again you seem to be playing like a scumbutt.

Which is what you thought LAST time I had a friggin town PM.

What a broken record.

Highlights the general amount of zero content Bubba has produced thus far in the game, and a follow up by highlighting his play in the last 6 or 7 posts in his ISO that are scummy.

But

for those looking for a specific

- and more importantly, more concise -

case for why bubba is scum

, I refer you to

my next post.

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Spoiler: Why Bubba is ObvScum

I'm not a fan of meta. Too big a playerlist to meta everyone anyway.

Discrediting meta arguments in a meta-heavy playerlist.

We just finished saying we don't like it when people say things like this.

Forcing himself into the "town" herd by referring to "we".

This sentence is just bad

bad

bad.

Except for when those town read players are scum

Discrediting the idea of forming a townbloc.

Hey. Hey mollie. Bubba noticed it too so that makes him my scumbuddy right?

he also said he had no clue what it meant yeah?

I also referenced a quote by someone else yeah. Noticing it is not alignment indicative.

"Please don't look at me".

The amount of the word town in Varsoon's post concerns me.

Already mentioned this, but he's trying to leapfrog off an observation I made earlier to look like he's scumhunting, when he's not.

P:Edit: Hey Jiffy how well did voting me work out last time?

Idk, were you lynched? If so; then I guess it worked out great.

Games over. I was town.

Holy shit Majiffy get out of my ass. I know you love to hate me, but for real brah.

P:edit; Pretty sure you said that last time. -_-

Begin #MislynchDefense

I don't consider my play scummy. Maybe you should except MY play is MY fucking play and move on.

Defensive behavior (feigned indignation) to cover up for what they deem to be an indefensible argument being put forth.

Then make this mistake again. I fucking dare you.

I think I'm going to start advertising myself as the person Majiffy can't read.

More of the above. Also more #MislynchDefense

It's because Majiffy no likey bubba's play.

Bring it the fuck on. This is a drastic change from you saying you were going to ignore me.

Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

etc.

Why did you say you were gonna ignore me if you're just gonna get up my ass like always.

I was assuming you'd have a town role PM, but once again you seem to be playing like a scumbutt.

Which is what you thought LAST time I had a friggin town PM.

etc.

I refer to you my earlier comment about my play being MY play.

etc.

So can we please lynch this thing now?

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morph isn't town guyz

I wish you could see it

hi honey.

can we push morph aside for now because I'm not sold but I think they might be town? it'll be like watching tv and the cat jumping up in your face. we can put them on the other couch to sleep.

We're not touching Morph today. Mollie handed reading the slot to me, and I think it's town.

Vote Bubba.

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My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod

whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly

, but that theory was clearly flawed.

You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

A boy says much, without saying. A man sees the scum have no day chat. This is just so. With his own words, a boy condemns himself.

VOTE: Morph the cat

Vote Bubba.

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I've always like you Majiffy.

But no, maybe, but not yet.

I hate waiting.

A girl's hormones rule her thoughts. That which is petty is best left ignored, yet every game a girl loses herself to the most innocuous of japes. Those buttons will continue to be pushed for as long as a girl allows them to be pushed.

I am going to find some way to make your life absolutely dreadful for the remainder of this game.

I don't know how yet... but I will.

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I now realize it's a meta-heavy playerlist.

AS scum would I want to bring attention to myself by doing this?

That's null-attention, as being anti-meta is relatively null. The importance here is in

how often you come back just to discredit different forms of scumhunting.

We meant playerlist not town -_-

... The playerlist being predominantly town-populated and those of which whom are not town attempting to blend into the playerlist

as

town.

So you meant town. And this a lie.

I'll refer to this later.

*Thumbs up* Lookin' forward to that one!

"Please realize I'm not the only person who noticed it." I've also said "I'm not the only person posting nothing

I was pointing out more how much you keep bringing up the alignment-neutral aspect of noticing it.

I've said I think some people are town. Some players haven't posted yet.

What's to say I think everyone who has posted is town.

I don't see how that matters. You can say whoever you want is town as scum, and saying someone is town doesn't mean that you're scumhunting.

You show no signs of scumhunting.

Begin You suck argument.

Ok!

MY PLAY IS MY PLAY IT'S ALWAYS LIKE THIS GTFO

"WTF I ALWAYS PLAY LIKE THIS AS TOWN HOW CAN YOU CATCH ME AS SCUM"

I'm about 5 seconds from claiming. Do you fucking want that?

Sure. And then I'll push through your lynch anyway, because claims ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

Still haven't answered my question. What does etc. mean? how is that in depth on why I'm scum? Why did you say you were going to ignore me, and now you're on my ass?

Etc. means more of your stupid Mislynch defense.
I've provided at least 6+ instances of you partaking in incredibly scummy behavior.
I don't see how pre-game joking around can, should, or would, have any influence over in-game play.

But we're just back to you being mad I've caught you.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES ETC MEAN HOW DOES THAT MEAN IM SCUMMY

PEDIT: MAJIFFY DO YOU EVEN FUCKING REALIZE THAT YOURE GOING TO MAKE THE IC'S LIFE MISERABLE

ARE YOU READING?

I don't care if he's mod-confirmed town, that just means I don't have to read him.

Confirmed town doesn't mean useful town.
Confirmed town doesn't mean smart town.

Confirmed town means I don't have to bother reading his shitposting.

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Majiffy, Vote Rem before someone lovable takes the slot and gets town points. I'll maybe investigate bubba if I'm cop.

No. We lynch the Bubba and we'll deal with the Remslot later.

If I'm cop or vig, I will target bubba tonight. You have my word.

Why won't you take your action on the Remslot instead, and lynch Bubba?

Is this not an option?

Is Bubba your teammate?

A man contradicts himself

Thank you for confirming how much of a moron you are.

Now sheep me.

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Jesus Christ shoot yourself with a high caliber pistol through the skull,

please.

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Once again, majiffy reminding us he cant scumhunt his way out of a paperbag

Feel free to refute my arguments point-by-point.

Jesus Christ shoot yourself with a high caliber pistol through the skull,

please.

Mod: Can we have this player removed for this comment. Thanks.

You know the old motto;
If you can't out-argue 'em, try to force-replace 'em!

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A man fixes thing to give perspective.

You are also welcome to refute my case on Bubba point-by-point if you don't feel he's scum.

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A man fixes thing to give perspective.

You are also welcome to refute my case on Bubba point-by-point if you don't feel he's scum.

There is no cause for a man to refute that confirmation bias which is plain enough on its own.

Considering the other male third of this hydra agrees with me, along with a couple other players that have shown support for a BubbaScum read, I think there's plenty of cause for you to refute my arguments if you aren't going to vote with me.

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And a man is scum if he doesn't? Is that the emotion

failing

attempting to be appealed? IC,

remember

fail.

No, a man is incompetent at this game if he doesn't.

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Confirmed town doesn't mean useful town.
Confirmed town doesn't mean smart town.

To re-iterate.

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Hey jiffy I have a solution. We call him notscience for the rest of the game. Xenogears is a thing.

Yeah but the difference is
1) I like notscience
2) notscience sheeps me.

Sigh. In all evil there is good, and in all good, evil. When a man sees all that another man does as evil, the first has bias against the second. This is known.

Jesus fucking christ.

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BTW, mr. "posting gimmick that sucks", I'm a guy. The other head of this hydra is female. We distinguiash that with neuter-half vs. spay-half.

Suddenly spayhalf makes a lot more sense.

well this conversation is turning me off

I'm gonna write a CSS script to hide his posts on a toggle. Want a copy?

Yes please. Then tell me how to implement it.

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I came pretty close to wanting to in xenogears if that counts.

at least notscience just didn't do much. this is physically making me want to have glass eyes with every post.

Really? I'm getting the urge to hurt small animals, myself.

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The bubba needs to die, Kaze.

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jaqen this is mollie will you marry me and have my babies

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mac remember how in anything goes I wanted mastina dead on d1 but noooooooo people were townreading them despite ap and I, who know him well, telling every1 they were wrong.

remember how they went on to win the game? this is kind of like that

@ cabd

hey are you going to post those insults I threw at you or are you going to admit that you were lying

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My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod

whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly

, but that theory was clearly flawed.

You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

A boy says much, without saying. A man sees the scum have no day chat. This is just so. With his own words, a boy condemns himself.

VOTE: Morph the cat

In the bold, a boy (cabd) is admonishing his teammates to read stuff before posting and giving their scum selves over their own laziness. He would have to be sly to do so in thread, which also shows scum have no day talk. For a boy (cabd) to know scum have no day talk, he too would have to be scum. While the ones this message was to are as yet unknown, cabd slipped in a very cabd way. Ergo, cabd is scum. Ergo, morph the cat is scum. Ergo, he should be lynched.

I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU JAQEN WILL YOU PAY ATTENTION PLZ!!!!

that is what i was trying to point out last night and then fery melted down. I think it is fake.

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mac remember how in anything goes I wanted mastina dead on d1 but noooooooo people were townreading them despite ap and I, who know him well, telling every1 they were wrong.

remember how they went on to win the game? this is kind of like that

@ cabd

hey are you going to post those insults I threw at you or are you going to admit that you were lying

Shut up mollie; I'm not ffery, and I'm not dealing with you.

so let me guess you couldn't find any?

so not only are you scum but you emotionally disingenuous as well! good to know

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mac remember how in anything goes I wanted mastina dead on d1 but noooooooo people were townreading them despite ap and I, who know him well, telling every1 they were wrong.

remember how they went on to win the game? this is kind of like that

who are you talking about here? alot of people scumread mastin including me, but as time went strong my voice wasn't strong enough to deter DGB's "kat is town don't touch" attitude

I am not talking about I am talking ab out dgb, kuribo, etc.

mac plz listen to me. morph is scum

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A lady has a man's attention, Mollie.

you have my complete and total support. I am not sure where our vote is going to land it really depends on who is online at the time. I have the lifespan of a housefly in larges these days but you might give me some competition since you are an IC!!!

don't let the boys bully you, they just get like that sometimes. majiffy is actually a pretty good scumhunter he just does better with a few flips.

not every1 is seeing what we are seeing and I am not sure why. do you think that morph was trying to ease a town read on a scummate wrt bubba? kise had a good point about bubba but I am townreading him.

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also i am not liking kagami either I lean scum on them

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I think it still counts as a trust tell even if it's almost always accurate instead of 100% accurate, otherwise it would be easy to abuse

I think a LOT of people are confused about what constitutes as a trust tell. you can do something 100% of the time and it not be a trust tell. what would make it a trust tell is guaranteeing

all future games

with that tell and I heard this straight from mith cos I asked.

it is also a banable offence and I personally would be pissed if some1 accused me of it when I wasn't doing it.

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Sigh. In all evil there is good, and in all good, evil. When a man sees all that another man does as evil, the first has bias against the second. This is known.

Who the fuck comes up with this stuff in a mafia game? This is hilarious. Easily my favorite poster im a while.

I like his style personally. I don't get why people are up in arms about it but then I like players who are on the "different" end of the spectrum. <---- that is kind of dangerous cos scum could have me eating out of their hands just by being interesting but jaqen is IC so

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Kazekirimaru,

a lady's suspicion on the MtC slot is based on cabd's slip, not on a petty grievance with the other half. A man is pretty sure of this. cabd's deflecting and discrediting afterward instead of just being his town self pretty much wraps that up in a pretty bow.

And the conf bias comes from the jiffy third on someone they've had problems reading in other games, and he sets ablaze that which he can't read. Probably because he's so good at reading.

A boy should stay, have fun, and see past the surface to the real which lies beneath.

wrt the bold: this. so much of this. like a million times over and I feel like it is poor form to reduce it to past game history regardless of their alignment.

I am not the 1 who is carrying baggage around.

it was a pretty big slip IMO and I am surprised more people did not notice it. and when it was pointed out I was met with :dinorage:

I felt like the slip was a revelation of their true motivation; it didn't feel town.

because the baggage was brought in (not by me let me point this out!) the read is a bit compromised for me. and the shitty treatment can send me in a tunnel in which there is no turning back but I am trying not to go down that route. I just want them to towntell and they aren't. they are sending out all of the wrong signals and missing all of the right beats.

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The severe lack of nothing in Kagami's ISO is alarming. I think the vote on Remembrance is bullshit given Rem can't defend himself. And poor, considering it doesn't really make sense.

Lack of nothing? I do see your points and agree. I'm wary of her, too. Mainly because I don't know what scum-Kagami looks like yet. This might be her scum debut.

Still town every game. Rem's replacement probably proves her town.

in what way? a replace out is alignment neutral IMO

what are your other thoughts on the game? you really are not giving much and I was hoping to be dazzled.

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something just occurred to me...

@ jaqen

did you know you were an IC and requested for it to be in the intro post?

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Rem's replacement probably proves her town.

I can't wait for someone like DGB to come in and have everyone singing and dancing, meanwhile killing them off and winning the game for mafia. She might even convince me the slot's town! And then everyone forgets it was Kise who almost done something good day 1.

(((kise)))

I don't like rememory's slot either. he looked really uncomfortable.

I told majiffy earlier that I thought that kagami might be bussing rem. the backpedal looks awful but it might be something where it is a YMMV (hers) so I can't tell with that.

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this is bork trying to type w/ 1 hand cause babby

tl;dr I don't think mtc slipped I'll type more when he's asleep

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jaqen

I don't like kagami or muffin

where are you at with them?

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A man will break this down a little more thoroughly for Muffin

-cabd believes town would be more apt to skip the mod opening sequence
-cabd believes scum would be more likely to read the opening lest they miss something that could screw up
their game
-cabd says "You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves."
-as cabd believes town less likely read the opening, he would have nothing to be ashmed of for town missing
the IC
-as cabd believes scum should have read the opening, and aparently didn't, the statement of shame can only
be applied to those he's shaming. The scum.
-this leads a resonable man to ponder, why wold a town cabd be motivated to help scum?
-since cabd took the chance to do this ITT, it further implies the lack of day talk.

Don't agree:

You are leaving out the conclusive part of their post:

My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly, but that theory was clearly flawed. You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

I see this as "my hypothesis was a reaction to <x> might be alignment sensitive. However, everyone reacted identically to <x> from what I saw, so I had to chuck that hypothesis" the conclusion was that he was wrong to assume that.

I don't see how you can argue that "you ought to be ashamed of yourselves" is them admonishing their scumbuddies for what? fitting in? how does that hurt them if they're scum? This doesn't hold water.

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if he's referring to town here, why should they be ashamed of something he supposedly thought town would do (i.e. not read the initial post in its entirety)?

I agree with that too, actually, but it makes just as little sense if he's talking to scum there. He's not going to (even subconscously) call his buddies out publicly in-thread.

The only perspective it really makes sense from is "why did nobody but me read this?" which is null.

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i'm more concerned with him adding the sentence at all. i don't really think it was a message to his scum buddies, but i don't see the sentence coming from a town mindset.

That's different than what others are arguing, but I think my explanation is most viable there - everyone (allegedly) missing the IC thing is overall bad for the gamestate and I think that is the only thing someone might be ashamed for there.

I say allegedly because FWIW, I didn't miss it. Also realize that Cabd didn't miss it either and still elected to make that argument, which speaks to me that he's excepting himself from the exercise because he knows he has a high attention to detail in every game.

@Jaqen - yes I see you've restated your exact point. I still disagree. I think Cabd said something that he didn't think through terribly well. Whoopdeeshit. If you want to insist he's publicly calling out his buddies in thread, well, you're wrong.

I also think that ffery's particular exit from the game is town looking.

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He is ashamed that town is not as good as himself.

This is what I was trying to say more eloquently put.

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whichever manhead

See (mostly) proper caps and a distinct lack of ad-hom? You're talking to bork.

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dunno. looked a little forced, actually. didn't really see anything in your posts that would offend her that badly

I do - being tunneled on when town by someone who she has a history with.

him retracting it because a few people didn't catch it shouldn't surprise him if those few people are town (who he expects not to catch it)

And my point is that he's clearly not playing to a scum wincon if he thinks "welp my scumbuddy missed it too BETTER GO TELL EVERYONE". Ergo he is doing sonething else.

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I do - being tunneled on when town by someone who she has a history with.

Read Xenoblade for the scum version of this trope, btw.

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it looks like a bit of an overreaction to being under not-that-much pressure being tunneled by someone you could easily ignore

if their history is _that_ bad, shouldn't she even expect it?

I mean I don't know what to tell you here - you're putting forth that ffery is faking this as a strategic move and a by-product of this move is removing herself from the game?

ok. and my point is that the sentence felt out of place and didn't make a lot of sense given what was happening at the time. i'm not convinced it was a message to anybody, it just felt like it wasn't really warranted given what was going on at the time

I don't really disagree. Now what?

p-edit: Still getting caught up outside of morph-gate (You've been dealing with my other heads). I'll have more breadth come tomorrow.

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thoughts on Dan? also where are you at with zmuffin

Dan gets a small townread for being aligned with me on the cabd thing.
zMuffin I don't have anything to say about yet.

p-edit:

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And it's 10:30 and both my kids are now awake

Fuck me.

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Broke Tales of uPick

And IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII helped!

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dunno. looked a little forced, actually. didn't really see anything in your posts that would offend her that badly

I do - being tunneled on when town by someone who she has a history with.

I do - being tunneled on when town by someone who she has a history with.

Read Xenoblade for the scum version of this trope, btw.

tl;dr - mollie was up in her ass the whole game there too and she sat there, took it, and got lynched D1.

it looks like a bit of an overreaction to being under not-that-much pressure being tunneled by someone you could easily ignore

if their history is _that_ bad, shouldn't she even expect it?

I mean I don't know what to tell you here - you're putting forth that ffery is faking this as a strategic move and a by-product of this move is removing herself from the game?

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You did. Vote the opportunistic scum with me?

I'll get back to you on this tomorrow; I haven't synced up with Jiffy at all and he's holding the vote right now.

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I also think that ffery's particular exit from the game is town looking.

explain

holy shit dude read

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or if you don't wanna, you could talk to me about your other reads.

As I said, going to fan out a bit tomorrow. I'm not there yet.

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A man knows another part of your hydra thinks just opposite of you on this situation.

I am aware. I also think I am right.

And since when is a man (Bork) terribly good, especially D1?

You know what?

Eat shit.

You're obviously somehow who not only knows me, but knows that I don't consider myself a very good scumhunter (Though I am good at other things) and you can get right fucked for trying to use that to make me doubt myself on this and I'm probably not going to talk to you again until I figure out who you are.

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Nevermind I now know

exactly

who you are.

Eat shit all the same.

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Not sure if that's in accordance with the rules, but I'll check.

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I'm taking a break from this for a bit.

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Wasn't terribly obvious to me either, but it does make sense.

Cadb says that town doesn't read the mod-post, but scum do. Then says to the group of people, many who seemed to have missed the IC announcement, "but you all missed it, shame on you." This doesn't make sense from town-frame, because if everyone there is town, then this is perfectly consistent with the first statement. He expresses surprise, though, suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post.

indie

I even posted this on our speadsheet last night!

still scum

@whoever asked.

Breaking games with townslips and mechanics is my fucking THING. Broke Fire Emblem marriage mechanic, attempted to break Marketplace Mafia III (damn you magua and your red auctions), broke Paraodx Prime with a gambit; Broke Tales of uPick, broke a game on my homsite, etc. Finding townslips and riding them to a solid true townblock is my goal here.

~BC

then why can't you break this 1 cos you haven't I don't think you are even close. on 1 hand bubba is town for

joking/not noticing/what was he doing exactly I am unclear

missing the details and on the other you guyz are the ones who are paying attention to details which you expect scum to do.

do you see how this is confusing?!1! cos that is the slip

this shitstorm in a teacup prolly could have been cleared if you would have addressed the original points instead of 1/2 of you stropping off and you 2 making a huge fucking deal about it.

Quite the read.

First order of business... are we supposed scum because Cabd was "coaching" scum in the thread? Or is there something else I missed... In which scum-team world does that plan actually work? Also, if you actually care MuffinMan, from my experience with Cabd, he is a pretty avid-town hunter in that he looks for town-slips and will call them out when he sees them. I have seen it on multiple occasions.

From my quick read, I got scum-reads from Kagami, Rem,

and a couple of Mollie's points, although Cabd says they are out of spite more than scum.

~GC

that. it needs to stop right now.

why? cos I was addressed by the mod for this:

Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable,

but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.

and I am not. it pisses me the fuck off that anything I do in this game will be reduced to that when it fucking isn't.

I never insulted that slot. not once. I think they are not town cos it is easier to believe that than me being solidly discredited as a player on this site based on crap that is not my problem.

I also think they are not town for the reasons that I gave but what is interesting is what shook out. muffinman, kagamuri and pie are the people of interest in that debacle.

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Xenoblade AGAIN?
It's like... The whole mafia universe just switched it's center to xenoblade.
If you're basing on xenoblade again
It's not going to help.
And if it's not going to help, then that means you're not to help town
Which means, you're not town.

Yeah dude I don't see how a completed game with the same players where we all know their alignment (and are acting somewhat differently from here!) could possibly help.
Holy shit you're daft.

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You are trying to abuse a meta you and Tsu know about. Being self-aware of only calling yourself town as town? Yeah I've seen scum do that.

Unvote;
Vote Remembrance

I am curious - how can you tell that this is scum-Rem subverting his self-meta rather than town-Rem adhering to it? Cause being self-aware of his meta doesn't necessitate that he be scum when he bring it up, considering that both alignments wish to be read as town.

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Well, that, and wondering when bork and jiffy are gonna come back and deal with her.

I offered to leave reading the slot to you.
She said that was a bad idea.
I read the slot as town.
Now I'm getting yelled at for "not listening to a thing [she's] saying".

A man can't win, sometimes.

And the conf bias comes from the jiffy third on someone they've had problems reading in other games, and he sets ablaze that which he can't read. Probably because he's so good at reading.

I'm still waiting for you to refute even a single one of my points against Bubba.

Next thing. I;ve been over bubba's discrediting of mollie and he has confirmed it was blatant discrediting. Majiffy votes bubba, mollie votes morph, Jaq votes morph and brings up bubba as a partner. I don't think four eyes are imagining things and there has to be something there.

@Majiffy, Bubba is far from being an obvious mcscumbutt, but IMO the connections are there with him and morph, so it earns my suspicion. If I agreed with you that bub was hot damningly scum, I'd be on it, but it's not strong enough for me to confidently want others to lynch him right now.

@mollie & jaq, I'm still unimpressed with morph's reddit style posting and can vote that. Either bubba has to fuck up or Morph has to flip scum before I even think about rallying for votes towards bubba. I'm strongest to weakest on Rem, pie & morph>bubba.

You agree that Bubba has been blatantly discrediting but you disagree he's obvscum but you agree he's scum with morph but you want to lynch morph first for

???

Oh right, you're probably a scumbutt too.

Bus your buddy already. Vote bubba.

if a muffin was a muffin of many vig shots, a muffin would shoot a man this night

A muffin would be a well-appreciated man the following day.

I kinda like not voting based on dumb cases.
It's a rare condition I have

Why haven't you refuted my points on Bubba, since you seem so keen to discard them?

whichever manhead

See (mostly) proper caps and a distinct lack of ad-hom? You're talking to bork.

More in a bit.

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Spoiler: Big Long Bubba Response Post

I now realize it's a meta-heavy playerlist.

AS scum would I want to bring attention to myself by doing this?

That's null-attention, as being anti-meta is relatively null. The importance here is in

how often you come back just to discredit different forms of scumhunting.

I don't like meta. I don't agree with it. The whole point of mafia is to adapt. I stand by that with every fucking inch of me. I'm from EM. There's not TOO much meta in EM.

You're still blatantly ignoring the point.

Go read my sentence again.

We meant playerlist not town -_-

... The playerlist being predominantly town-populated and those of which whom are not town attempting to blend into the playerlist

as

town.

So you meant town. And this a lie.

Wow you're dense.

Then explain to the dense player why the dense player is incorrect and dense.

I'll refer to this later.

*Thumbs up* Lookin' forward to that one!

Good.

Still waiting.

"Please realize I'm not the only person who noticed it." I've also said "I'm not the only person posting nothing

I was pointing out more how much you keep bringing up the alignment-neutral aspect of noticing it.

Ok both are true.

Ok, so you agree that you're nervously self-conscious about your alignment.

I've said I think some people are town. Some players haven't posted yet.

What's to say I think everyone who has posted is town.

I don't see how that matters. You can say whoever you want is town as scum, and saying someone is town doesn't mean that you're scumhunting.

You show no signs of scumhunting.

You missed my point. My point was what if scum hasn't showed to the game yet?

You wouldn't know,

because you're not scumhunting.

MY PLAY IS MY PLAY IT'S ALWAYS LIKE THIS GTFO

"WTF I ALWAYS PLAY LIKE THIS AS TOWN HOW CAN YOU CATCH ME AS SCUM"

Alright you're a meta player. Look at how pro as fuck my scum game is. Like holy shit balls. My ONLY scum game. I replaced in. But serious. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=27373

I'm proud of that game. Everything worked for me. Like everything. That's how I play as scum.

I'm not much of a meta player. Also I don't give a shit how pro you think your scum game is.

And this is just another deflection among many deflections you riddle your posts with.

I'm about 5 seconds from claiming. Do you fucking want that?

Sure. And then I'll push through your lynch anyway, because claims ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

It if you lynch a hoe with tricks you'll end up looking like a dick.

Let me show you how much I care.

Ready?


There you go.

Still haven't answered my question. What does etc. mean? how is that in depth on why I'm scum? Why did you say you were going to ignore me, and now you're on my ass?

Etc. means more of your stupid Mislynch defense.
I've provided at least 6+ instances of you partaking in incredibly scummy behavior.

Bullshit. You have not provided HOW it's scummy.

Because it's both an appeal to fear and an attempt to discredit my ability to scumhunt.

I don't see how pre-game joking around can, should, or would, have any influence over in-game play.

*Joking* riiight.

Yes, because I knew both of our alignments in the sign-up thread before roles were distributed.

But we're just back to you being mad I've caught you.

Mad because you're not thinking.

"No u!"

WHAT THE FUCK DOES ETC MEAN HOW DOES THAT MEAN IM SCUMMY

PEDIT: MAJIFFY DO YOU EVEN FUCKING REALIZE THAT YOURE GOING TO MAKE THE IC'S LIFE MISERABLE

ARE YOU READING?

I don't care if he's mod-confirmed town, that just means I don't have to read him.

But you should listen to him like town listened to you correct?

No, because he's clearly incompetent.

Confirmed town doesn't mean useful town.

TRUE STORY. I POINT TO SHURRIFF

Tell me more about your butthurts.

Confirmed town doesn't mean smart town.

Shurrif

#butthurts

Confirmed town means I don't have to bother reading his shitposting.

This was literally me in that game. Literally.

#coolstorybro

Once again, majiffy reminding us he cant scumhunt his way out of a paperbag

Feel free to refute my arguments point-by-point.

Jesus Christ shoot yourself with a high caliber pistol through the skull,

please.

Mod: Can we have this player removed for this comment. Thanks.

You know the old motto;
If you can't out-argue 'em, try to force-replace 'em!

I take suicide very seriously. That's crossing the line. If Mac had said it, or Morph I would have asked for their force-replace too.

"Wah, I can't take being emotionally unsettled in a game that relies on reading the emotional reactions of players around me!"

Still waiting for you to refute even a single point I have made against you.

Patience my young padawan. I'm not as pissed off about to do stupid things right now. I have a rough draft saved of the claim though.

I look forward to disregarding your fakeclaim and lynching you anyway.

I'm a stickler for cases.

Yet you still haven't made a single refutation of mine, despite saying how bad it is.

Your argument on bubba is consistent and effortful. I think there's potential for a lot of confbias there, so I was hesitant to hop on.

It feels like you got the scum tinglies, and then fit the evidence to that read. The gun post was absurdly inappropriate, but not alignment indicative. I think you're prob-town. Bubba leans scum for this.

Agree, don't know what confbias is.

I never said it was. Agree. Wtf.

Bubba literally just agreed that my argument on him was "consistent and effortful".

Fucking lol.

[Lush Life]

NOTE TO SELF: START AT TOP OF PAGE 29

vote: morph

still not sure about the "slip" but oh well I'll bite for now

adasfiosgjasg You agree with my Bubba case and you're voting Morph for something you're not even sure about.

What the everliving fuckshit.

i refuse to read those fucking giant quote walls. go fuck yourself if you're planning to do any more of them

At least I'm nice enough to put them in spoilers if they're hueg.

Vote Bubba.

pieguy, Remembrance,

bubba,

Kagami. How's that sound? Those are my scumreads. And you know what? Many of them all decided it'd be a novel idea to vote Cabd within a span of like three fucking hours! Dat wagon. How's that for you, eh?

But yeah, can we stop playing around now? I think it's time we actually started playing this thing.

Start with pie.

I'll actually happily lynch Kagami afterwords.

Why not Bubba?

Not sure if that's in accordance with the rules, but I'll check.

A man has no honor who shares stuff outside of any game to sway his bias. A man also know the accuracy with which this slot hunts. So maybe a man should drop the huge ego and play.

Bork told me who you are.

Go fuck yourself.

I still want Kise gone, but bubbajack is much worse. I'd be happy with either of them gone. At least calm dis thread down a bit. Friendships have already been tarnished

Vote Bubba and help me kill the fucking thing already.


----
Now I have to go get my teeth inspected and then go figure out why the fuck I'm getting excessive 50Hz in my signal chain.
Toodles!

[Lush Life]

You're suffocating him.
Who else is scum and why? Excluding me tho. I know that's coming, but who else besides me**

I've given reads.

CTRL+F "{" and you'll find them.

And I don't care if I'm suffocating him.

He's scum. No one has refuted my arguments. Many agree. And yet no votes are being had. This is wrong.

Let him suffocate.

[Lush Life]

Mollie:

First of all, I have no clue why you think “I turned you into giffy” or whatever given that morph got the same talking to that you’re alluding to. Listen to your hydra partners. You’ve turned this from a light scumread on morph to a vengeful “lynch them because ffery got into a fight with me” reason. I’m not nacho, and therefore unlike Walking Dead, I was unable to give ffery the moral support she needed to deal with this game. And for that, I feel terrible. You can either bury the hatchet and move on, or continue making so much noise that this thread essentially turns into 100 pages of a feud when one of the two parties involved isn’t even in the game anymore. I know which one I’m choosing.


~BC

I never said you turned me into the gm. I never. fucking. said. that.

I am sick and fucking tired of your lying.

when a woman says no, she means no. I have asked to stop this crap and yet you continue on.

plz. I guess I didn't make it clear. leave me the fuck alone, quit trying to reduce my scumhunting to a personal grudge cos that isn't what it is about and it breaks the spirit of the game.

[Lush Life]

Majiffy. Aren't you just abusing your "I am Majiffy" Status?
That just because you're majiffy you can do anything and everything you want anytime?
Can you stop with that? Just this once? It's messing up my read of you.
This sensation of you being a "VERY VERY dangerous-scum"... It's unbearable.

I enjoy the constant fear having me around elicits from others.

I think Lush Life is scum

Yeah but...

wait what

?

Bork or Jiffy, you around? I wanna talk about your townblock blueprints.

~BC

I'm here. Briefly.

Where are the wagons going right now?

The rest of the wagons are shit and feel like distractions from my Bubba case that a number of people are supporting and/or at least scumreading Bubba, and yet no one seems willing to park a vote there.

Aka there's verbal support but no one will pony up because they're probably mostly scumbuddies.

[Lush Life]

Spoiler: MOAR BUBBA RESPONSES

I got your point. I was saying I STILL don't agree with meta (Which is one of the things I discredited)

That's great and still completely irrelevant.
And my points still stand.

So... *thumbs up*

Because You're saying I'm lying. How do you know I'm lying. It's baseless, and bullshit. You are ASSUMING I'm lying to paint me as scummy. Happy?

I'm not assuming shit. I've already proven that you lied, right there in that string of quotes.

It's going to be a while, trust me I'll get it in.

Yeah, procrastinate away any little promise of content.

I'll be here with a handful of rope for your neck.

No. What's true is the alignment neutral aspect, and that I'm not the only one posting nothing. Where the hell you got I'm self concious about my alignment I don't even know.

Your continued reference of the alignment-neutral aspect, and being the person bringing it up with no relevant point attached to it except to say that it's alignment-neutral.

And you're sitting on a bad lead. I told you'd I was ISOing everyone. Jeez.

Right. Looks like a good lead to me. Going to sit on it as hard as I can.

"This is a meta heavy playerlist don't discredit it"
"I don't meta"

Are you kidding? Anyway the point was, this is how I play as town, if you want to see how I play as scum be my guest.

I am not the entire playerlist.
I can acknowledge the strengths of many of the players in said playerlist without counting myself as one of them.

Also I note that you *CONTINUE* to deflect instead of address.

How am I appealing to fear?

"Majiffy lynched me as town! He can't be trusted! Obviously he's going to lynch me as town again! I'm going to flip town!" = An appeal to fear.

You discredit your ability to scumhunt on your own.

"NO U! HEHEHE I SO WITTY"

And you're not trying to find out anyone else's alignment right now, why is that?

I've posted reads on close to half the playerlist by now.

So... Another lie by the bubbanator!

there's something called being nice and not chucking insults at every player, you should try it.

Why?

What I can't take is someone would want to push someone to kill themselves. I didn't even think this comment was directed to me. What I can't take is someone would would even tell someone to put a gun to their skull. You know how fucked up that is. I've had friends commit suicide due to online bullying, and I'm not going to let you tell ANYONE that. Or let ANYONE tell someone that. I take it seriously. Now then. If you would still like to make comments like these, please leave.

I bet you think that everyone who listens to Eminem beats their girlfriends, starts packing heat and doing excessive drugs, too.

And then looking like a d-bag.

At least I don't look like an imbecile who can't grasp the basic tenets of this game and how it's played.

Make a good argument then. You're arguments are riddled with jumping to conclusions and assuming shit. That's what makes them bad.

...
I'm not sure you understand how this works.

I present an argument
You refute said argument OR You cannot refute said argument

Saying "Make a good argument, what a bad argument, blah blah blah" and not refuting it falls under the second option.

Where are my jumped-to conclusions? Where are my assumptions? Why do you find them unfounded?
You've not answered any of this.

Probably because my arguments are quite good.

It is. Consistently bad. And taking way too much of your effort.

Did your mother help you out with that comeback?

[Lush Life]

We wont be caught up for a day or 2. Who's scum?

Bubba. Scroll through for the spoilers in my ISO. Second one in says something along the lines of "Why Bubba Is ObvScum"

[Lush Life]

I'm here. Briefly.

{me you innochildthingie kaze gaiden (maaaybe desp) tsukasa}
Objecitons to any of those?
~BC

I don't have a read on the teriyaki or Desperado.

Add the cat, Kaga (bork's), and Muffin.

[Lush Life]

Oh right you're the cat.

So yeah, just Kaga and Muffin.

[Lush Life]

He'll be phoneposting but he's getting on now.

[Lush Life]

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

Here in limited capacity. Talk to me.

[Lush Life]

Talk to me about muffin. Also....

General demeanor says he's not feeling threatened or nervous. Also makes good points here and there.

Feels solidly town, if not much for being at the forefront of the game.

Goin' to sleep. Have fun with Bork.

[Lush Life]

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

I actually agree with this. mac you were starting to worry me for a minute cos we weren't clicking.

anybody who has messiah as town is fucking nuts. they have only made 3 posts and not I am able to get a read off of them and I can probably read them better than any1 else on this site

[Lush Life]

also borky and I are townreading bubba

also I hate everything in the above post

[Lush Life]

mac

mac

mac

y u ignor3 m3 mac

[Lush Life]

I dont think ive properly adapted tp the new site meta of discrediting reasoning in favor of who can bark the loudest.
In my days we took the barker out back and shot it
Im disappointed

Hi.

I know you've been around a bit longer, and have a right to be a little crotchety about site meta shifting to a more posts and more wordy posts.

But really: you've had your vote parked on kaze the whole game and I haven't heard a peep out of you as to why anyone else should have it there too.

So if you've got something to say about it or your take on the game overall, my head is at least listening.

[Lush Life]

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

I believe you had something to say to me?

[Lush Life]

UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.

[Lush Life]

Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.

I'm waffling like shit on Kagami; I think my other heads are both scumreading her though;

I do think that there is scum in the three quick votes on morph (muffin/kagami/pie which isn't reflected in the VC since they voted for the wrong player) but I'm not sure it's her and for a while I thought it was actually least likely to be her.

[Lush Life]

~Mollie's Reads~

actually these are kind of a composite of mine and borky's altho the thoughts behind them are my own. we talked a bit and some of these I am pulling off of our spreadsheet. majiffy has access to it too he just doesn't use it so I am not sure what the full scope of his reads are. I could be wrong but I think he might have bubba as scum.

players I have hydras with and know fairly well:

mala

of chamber of kittens: I don't like that they sub into this game only to immediately say, "see ya in 2 days!" but I will probably leave them alone unless they do something horrifyingly scummy mostly cos I have hit my limit with meltdowns this weak and if I am going to make mala meltdown I would rather do it at a time when I can rub her feet so that she will like me again. this will be my first game with chamber except for marathons but we have chatted enough so that I have a sense of his personality enough to go "beep boop" when he is actually being beep boop which I hope he does cos lets face it this game needs more fun. I really hope that they are town if they were it would be awsum cos yaye! mollie will have 2 people who might be nice to her in this game. besides jaqen.

desperado

of messiah complex: you know I totally forgot about them until cabd brought them up! and that is very disturbing cos desp should have had a lot to say about the earlier drama especially since he has come up with this theory that for some weird reason people will sometimes lose their minds around me. I find it weird that he has said absolutely nothing especially since he could have either been more supportive of moi or try to smooth things over if he was townreading morph. we work well together and if we are both town between the 2 of us can pin down an entire scumteam very early and when I say early I mean d1. I am usually pretty good at reading him altho in the upick asofai I gave him a town read cos I was trying to get him to help me lynch his scummates and out of every1 I was scumreading he would be the 1 most likely to do it. biggest mistake I made cos nacho & co wound up sheeping the read (I died early) and messiah gained a lot of mileage in the game. formerfish is a darling that I do not know too well, he was pretty easy to spot as scum in marathons tho. all I know is they better do something amazing real quick or I am about to get pretty weird on them for being so lurky.

do you hear me messiah I am about to get weird on you guyz until you do something amazing!!1!

mac

: mac and I are not clicking this game and it worries me kind of. I liked his suspicion of kagami cos I understand how his brain works and I know what he looks for. I have a light town read on this slot, just wondering why we can't seem to connect. <---- it may look like I am not saying much about him but I will tell you this; out of all of my hydra partners he and I can post and you would never be able to tell us apart. we tend to think alike and so need fewer words.

lean town

players I have at least 1 game experience with:

bubbajack

: we have a light town read on him and when I say light I mean it is super duper fragile and of course majiffy is scumreading him. I thought he was pure scum in that epic mafia game mala and I hydra-ed in and then he town-flailed and then I think we lynched the doc lolololol. his thinking does not make sense to a typical ms player but if you peek though the surface you can some real potential there and some srs skill developement. the only thing that is bugging me is his townread on us. I expected him to go hot and heavy with majiffy and do a 1v1 but tbh (and I know some people might not think so but comparatively speaking) other than asking that we get replaced it is pretty mild.

so unsure mebbe town.

dramallama

: wait for it wait for it WAIT FOR IT. I think he might be town. I have no real way to quantify this read it is the closest to intuition that I come to but every time I read a post of his I just think town. he really hasn't done much this game except complain and I actually half-expected him to jump in during mine and fery's kerfuffle and scream "mollie is horrible! she is a horrible horrible person she will even accost strangers in the street with pleasantries and cheerfulness lets lynch her!". that he didn't sort of worries me and if he is scum then I will know he has this sneaky super power that makes my scumdar point in the wrong direction on him.

unsure mebbe town

kise

: now don't tell him, but I am seekritly in mafia love with kise and I was super excited when I saw him on the playerlist! unfortunately his familiarity with me is from pikman and he doesn't know that have been trying to recover from my ebil trollish ways and I bet this game has not convinced him so far even tho I actually haven't done any trolling. *sigh* it will be a love that is unrequited most likely but he is kind of in that sacred pile I have of don't you dare touch him if you even so much as look at him funny I will eat you pile. give him until d3 then turn up the heat if you are not happy with him but I am thinking you will be.

town

varsoon

: what is funny about varsoon is how incredibly confident he sounds in skype mafia and incredibly authentic when in the forum games I have played with him he gets a bit whiny when he is feeling left out. he is a player who likes to gambit I just think he needs to get some established cred and more solid skill level before he does it that way they have more potential to be successful and he will get the respect that he deserves. I am leaning a little scummy on him here, it is a light scum read but it is there.

unsure mebbe scum

.

muffinman

: anybody who is already townreading him needs to have their head examined. in monks and masons he looked so incredibly town that nacho and I bought it, hook line and sinker but lucky for us he was nked by the opposing scumteam. I guess luck is a strong word considering we lost that game to scum saki. he is up for a scummy for cunning manipulator or something cos I think he has managed to fool every1 who has ever played with him. in xeno2 I kind of felt very strong town vibes from him after I got over paranoia and here I am not feeling it. like I feel nothing. it reminds me of me when I have gotten just 1 too many scum role pms in a row and am fatigued. <--- that is how he is acting.

unsure could get weird on him any second. he might be scum.

gaiden

: gaiden was weirdly easy to read in marathons. like there was a game I should have been all ack! ack! ack! he is a mafia flavour cop traitor something! and I didn't cos I trusted those good townie vibes which I could not explain in a million years.

I am leaning town mebbe but I want him to be a stronger presence in the game.

people I have heard about from other people but have never played with

:

kagami

: I don't even remember who turned me onto kagami but I have liked what I have seen in other games I have read/observed. she made 1 post that I liked but I am pretty sure I had to agree to give up a kidney in order to get it. borky swings wildly on that slot, not sure what majiffy thinks but I am kind of leaning possible scummy.

possible scum.

kazekirimaru

: now he is interesting. I played a game with him in marathons I think but what turned me onto to him was etl. we were thinking of adopting him. so I was kind of excited to see we were going to play a game together! so far he looks pretty town, borky has him as town and I think majiffy might too. he is also a player I can get super duper weird about later in the game but for now I think we say town. he is probably the only player we all really strongly sort of kind of agree on.

lean town.

the rest of you I am sorry but you have not made that much of an impression yet I do better with players I am familiar with. I hope we will have time to get to know each other! sorry things got off to a bad start.

also jaqen is IC so that goes without saying but I think he has really good instincts and some people might want to think about working with him.

[Lush Life]

hi kaze!

i am going to do my favourite thing which to ask you to dance. while we are leaning town on you I want to either firm it up or break it down early cos there was this teeny thing that you are doing which is bothering me a bit and that is that you kind of are feeding the flames but then bitching about the ensuing drama.

I kind of get the feeling you are pretty in your face antagonistic so what I would like to discern is whether or not this is a playstyle or alignment thing.

could you plz help me sort this out?

love,

mollie

[Lush Life]

Hai there! I do love to dance.

Feeding the flames of the drama, am I? I must disagree, but I'll hear your reasons for thinking so. If they're legitimate I'll cut it out, mkay?

I am a bit antagonistic, I suppose. I used to be really bad about this but I like to think I've scaled it back a bit.

Anything else?

lets start here:

UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.

Yay hydra dissonance. >.>

what was the purpose of this comment? what was your intention when you made it and the outcome that you were expecting?

also what music do you like? it might help if we are dancing to the same beat.

[Lush Life]

also holy shit action dan is playing this game

oh action daaaaaaan

I will get to you later

[Lush Life]

Stating I dislike hydra dissonance? I was...stating I dislike hydra dissonance. I was hoping the aforementioned hydra would notice the comment and come to the conclusion that I dislike hydra dissonance. Did it work?

are you asking whether or not you successfully communicated that you do not like hydra dissonance? my question is what have you learned about that dissonance wrt alignment? cos that really is the most important thing. otherwise it is just noise.

I also have a theory that those who bitch about hydra dissonance are usually scum. like the rate is probably <80%. most people

think

it but not a lot of town players SAY it cos it only contributes to the noise factor since dislike of hydra dissonance is pretty universal and most town don't feel compelled to say it. scum do cos they have this ridiculous idea that it somehow makes them seem more town.

I enjoy almost all music to some capacity! Though I am especially fond of variants of jazz music, as well as symphonies. Sometimes I indulge in instrumental progressive. If you're looking to dance, I enjoy the Viennese Waltz :3

do you play an instrument? sounds like you do.

lets turn up the heat and pick up the tempo. how about salsa?

[Lush Life]

That was a slightly sardonic question I posed when I was asking if it worked. Anyway, I don't believe hydra dissonance is alignment-indicative, but I do dislike it because it causes some difficulties for the game itself. Namely heads who argue with each other and/or unvote/vote against other heads. It sometimes makes it difficult to get solid reads and it adds another layer of contention within the game that's unneeded. I'm also admittedly unhappy you unvoted my favorite scumread.

so you are in love with the bubba lynch then? why? I get majiffy's stance bubba is the type of player he latches onto early in a game. borky and I want to give him room to breathe and see what happens. mebbe in a day or 2 revisit but I don't think he is the best lynch for today.

Well then, do you think I'm scum? I do see your point about noise if all one does is excessively shout "UGGHH THIS HYDRA FFS" or uses it as an excuse not to sort them, but I don't think I fall into either of those categories.[/quote]

I don't know are you? but why did feel like you had to say it? did you think that with 3 heads and 2 with wildly divergent approaches with 1 in the middle did you think that we would stop? with majiffy it ain't gonna happen. I would have thought that you would have picked up on the abrasive playstyle and figured that out. he is good at what he does but sometimes has a hard time playing well with others.

so you have a town read on us. who else is in your town pile

---tangential break!---

I do. I play most stringed instruments, many percussion instruments, I played trumpet in band, and I own other wind instruments including a porcelain ocarina. It's bitchin, I must say.

Salsa sounds fine. Would you like to lead?

certainly!

[Lush Life]

oh wow quote fail

hi kagumi!

[Lush Life]

you really aren't town this game are you

[Lush Life]

I'm not in love with it but I'm certainly not opposed. bubba is likely third in line for people I'd like to lynch today.

but you just said in post #801 that bubba was your favourite scumread, yeah?

Role PM says no.

You know what, I really just felt like complaining for the sake of complaining. Did me stating my dislike for hydrae arguing amongst themselves add to the gamestate? No, probably not. But that's okay, because I say a lot of things.

while complaining that other things don't add to the gamestate.

IC, Gaiden, GC_BC, uhhh...maybe Mac? I have a lot less of this figured out than I thought. ._.

I guess you have your work cut for you huh

[Lush Life]

of course!

so you have 3 town reads and 1 mebbe but you know what I find weird?

is that we are not on that list and yet you have been treating us as town.

you also have a good amount of dissonance with your posts as in you don't seem to have a clear directive for your thought processes.

[Lush Life]

A man wonders why Kaze's dissonance is trumping cabd's dissonance by this slot. At the same time, a man can see where you're coming from.

the emotional escalation is what gives me pause. neither of my heads will touch it and borky has a strong meta case which I can sort of see and if given enough time wrt to cabd and my own experience with prohawk I think it can be sorted out.

that is the best I can do for now.

[Lush Life]

Hey, sorry, it was like 2am and I was falling asleep. But what are you seeing in Kagami that makes you think town?

In my conversation with mollie or majiffy (I can't remember which it was) I mentioned that I think that probably there was scum within the quick momentum shift onto morph from [pie/kagami/muffin] (but most certainly not all scum) and at the time I was 1) getting weird on muffin and 2) felt that pie was so off his usual play and on morph with such a halfhearted conviction (see #617) that kagami was looking the least bad of the three.

[Lush Life]

The following are a collection of people that have supported the Bubba scumread and have failed to pony up with a vote;
{Kise, Muffin, pieguy, Kaze, Jaqen, Katarina}

Given my townreads on Muffin and Kaze, and Jaqen's IC status, we are left with;
{Kise, pieguy, Katarina}

If you feel any of these players are possibly scum, you should help me lynch Bubba, as they have explicitly stated support, forcing their hand to bus their buddy.
We can lynch their scumbutts next.



The following are a list of players who have explicitly stated they do not like my case on Bubba without actually refuting anything specific;
{Bubba, Dramonic, Jaqen}

Given Jaqen is an IC and also supports a Bubba scumread I believe we can define him now as the town VI.

Bubba and possibly Dram are scum, along with the aforementioned grouping.

VOTE: Bubba

Can we stop dilly-dallying and do this now?

[Lush Life]

No you didn't.

Uh ok buddy whatever you say.

Others have brought it up. Read the game, tunnel less.

Yes, but you *continued* to reference it, pointing out *repeatedly* how alignment-neutral it is.

Jesus fucking Christ get some reading comprehension.

What do you want me to address?

My entire case on you and every preceding argument after, since you have addressed absolutely zero of it.

I'm not trying to appeal to fear. I'm trying to appeal too what lack of better judgement you have.

And I'm sure you have a town role PM too.

8/21 =/= half.

Continue vote bubba streak.

More Bubba

"Close to half"

Continue Bubba lying streak.

Continue Bubba being proven lying.

Great reads bro. Well done. Fuck off before I start to think you're scum. Because I don't and you're changing my opinion. And I don't like that.

"I'll scum read you if you don't back off me!"

This is a scum defense.

To put it the nicest way I can. you're a dick.

Yeah, but you haven't told me why not being a dick is advantageous.

More of him being an ass to me.

i said in the last post where you jumped to conclusions. Where you were assuming things and you said you had "proven it"

No, you just said that I

had

jumped to conclusions. You didn't make note on which conclusions or what the logical jumps were.

The lol of it all is that if Bork thinks Jaqen is the same person as cabd thinks and is known town, he has a history of being very accurate D1... So if that's your belief, why isn't a hydra following the read?

A man also has a history of shitty reaction tests and gambits that ruin games, as well as dayvigging an obvtown early d1.

i really dislike the pbpa bubba did in #750. there's so little analysis there; it reads like hollow commentary

No fucking shit.

Probably because he's scum.

Why what?
Is there something wrong?

Yeah, your read is spelled wrong. It should be T-O-W-N, not S-C-U-M.

[Lush Life]

The following are a collection of people that have supported the Bubba scumread and have failed to pony up with a vote;
{Kise, Muffin, pieguy, Kaze, Jaqen, Katarina}

Given my townreads on Muffin and Kaze, and Jaqen's IC status, we are left with;
{Kise, pieguy, Katarina}

If you feel any of these players are possibly scum, you should help me lynch Bubba, as they have explicitly stated support, forcing their hand to bus their buddy.
We can lynch their scumbutts next.



The following are a list of players who have explicitly stated they do not like my case on Bubba without actually refuting anything specific;
{Bubba, Dramonic, Jaqen}

Given Jaqen is an IC and also supports a Bubba scumread I believe we can define him now as the town VI.

Bubba and possibly Dram are scum, along with the aforementioned grouping.

VOTE: Bubba

Can we stop dilly-dallying and do this now?

New page bump.

[Lush Life]

I have nothing nice to say to you Majiffy. You are circling your arguments

Lol.

Is the rest of this game as bad as the first few pages :s.

Yes. And the only solution is to vote Bubba.

[Lush Life]

Your other heads and previously mentioned items are the ONLY things keeping you in my town slot.

This is interesting, considering the only stated reasons you've given for townreading our slot are

my

actions.

Seems a bit like you're trying to change your story.

[Lush Life]

A Lush misreps a man.

Point out the misrep.

A man said you were conf bias, seeing nothing but scum in every post Bubba has made.

If Bubba flips scum, it's a correct read, not confirmation bias.

A man was trying to tell you that if you pinpointed specific details instead of shot gunning everything your case would be taken in a better light.

I did pinpoint specific details. Did you not read it?

Nowhere did a man say your case was crap.

Saying a player has conf bias = saying the player's case is crap.

Who's the VI now?

You, still.

And what motivation does a Lush have to ad hom known town who is scum hunting his ass off?

Maybe so you scumhunt a little better, yeah?

And a lush still has a man's identity wrong. Lol! Think of Jaqen as an anti-hydra with many heads, but only one per game.

Good god, it's even worse than I thought.

Wait you're scumhunting?
I musta missed it.

Why are you always so goddamned useless in every fucking game?

Do something, dram.

Gif, I dislike your every molecule for making this guy an IC.

Amen.

[Lush Life]

I just want to say that thee are an awful lot whiners in this game.

@mod - I am fine with the way jaqen posts mebbe cos I get since them jaqen was 1 of my favourite characters. I think some people are being a bit petty with they are treating them.

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

I actually agree with this. mac you were starting to worry me for a minute cos we weren't clicking.

anybody who has messiah as town is fucking nuts. they have only made 3 posts and not I am able to get a read off of them and I can probably read them better than any1 else on this site

I'm glad we're starting to click. Life's always smoother when you're #teammollie

What do you make of desp's reach out to both of us then not following through?

mollie <3 mac

I don't think the reach out was sincere. at the time I said to myself, "that looks a little forced" but I wanted to see what else they did and look guess what they did nothing. desp has been posting elsewhere on site so I know he has been around but he has been avoiding this game like the plague and I know it has nothing to do with conflict cos that sort of stuff is what bothers him I mean usually he is the 1 who is right in the middle of it. town desp loves being town with town us cos our triumvirate is awsum. that he isn't in this game yet makes me lean scum on them they just got done with upick asofai where they gave an awsum scum performance I mean it was spectular and it might just be that they are bit burnt out with that alignment. that is my theory anyways. so yeah I am seeing them as scummy I was hoping that desp would do something amazing this morning when he was but no, he hasn't.

so I am leaning scum on them.

I have been whispering in borky's ear about how awful messiah looks and he is the best for a lynch today but the bubba wagong is weirdly picking up steam for the shittiest of reasons. bubba is flailing a bit and looks awful but he soft claimed special so just let scum take care of him but borky thinks that it might not be bad to push for a fullclaim or whatever. his wagon is just awful I mean really awful but you know how majiffy what he does not understand he sees as scum so is missing all of the signals to the game like when people are jumping on a wagon with really shitty reasons it usually means it is on town. so that is my 2 cents.

what are your thoughts on messiah and other things? I would like to hear a bit more indepth from you.

[Lush Life]

Re:desp, Mollie, do you see desp snowing the everliving fuck out of everybody in the Faraday uPick, and then rolling scum here, and then immediately running over to you and reach out in his first post?

~BC

holy mother of fuck you read my mind

[Lush Life]

@ kise

- if you keep ignoring my reachouts I am kicking you out of mollie's lovenest and permanently replacing you with kaze and hell I might even join kat's crusade against you.

@ jaqen

- I have not forgotten you luv just let me do my thing and I will try to keep the dummies away from you. is there anything else you are looking at in the game? I would like to delve a little more into yor reasoning and get some more indepth dialogue going on with you so that town can mebbe gain some trust in you a little bit. I think some people are put off by your playstyle and I can understand how you feel cos some people are often put off by mine too. I only eventually win them over through sheer force of personality and perseverance but some people I will just never grow on and I have come to accept that. don't give up.

there was something else I wanted to say but I forget

[Lush Life]

Lush, im glad english is all our first language.

it could be so much worse like I could be from quebec or something

[Lush Life]

No. You're being a dick. A town dick. Already stated. Read more.

And now you're attacking the IC, Jesus.

My attitude doesn't change the fact that you're altering your story for why you townread our slot because it doesn't work with your narrative.

And I'm not attacking the IC, I'm verbally insulting the IC. There's a difference.

Yes. And the only solution is to vote Bubba.

The only thing from him thats really caught my eye so far is that he did some catchup post or something since I replaced in. I only skimmed it but that he needed to was odd. Why should I be voting for him?

He's spent the entire game discrediting legitimate forms of scumhunting, deflecting points, and generally being a scumbutt.

Take a stroll through our ISO and look for the "Bubba is a scumbutt" spoilers.

Jiffy Lush said I wasn't scum hunting. I promised him an ISO of everyone.

With little-to-no actual scumhunting in it.

This is such a shit reason, it hurt my eyes

That's like the icing on the cake of why Bubba is scum that I have been baking, slicing up and serving on plates for you illiterate fuckwads all game.

you need to tame majiffy for a while because his reasoning for pushing bork (ie anyone suspecting kise/pie/someone else to vote with him) is piss poor and isnt reflecting off him very well. LEASH HIM WOMAN!

1) Bork is in our hydra.
2) If you mean Bubba, my reasoning isn't about people not voting him. I've been shouting all game why Bubba is scum, and I've only just brought up the angle about how hard it is to move this wagon.
3) You're a fucking retard.

Vote Bubba or piss off.

[Lush Life]

Oh, I think Messiah Complex might be scum too.
Sorry!

why

[Lush Life]

@ majiffy

I am going to make this very clear in no uncertain terms. as long as I am in this hydra you will not talk to my mac that way <---- I will not put up with it. I am drawing a line that I suggest you not cross or things will get ugly real quick.

I am sick to death being ignored in this hydra, your case on bubba is shit but people will sheep it mostly cos they are lazy/new/dumb and don't know what they are looking at and there isn't much else going on in the game. mac and I have a fucking banging track record with our reads in games I wish we could be the vig in every game.

we can continue this in gchat.

[Lush Life]

Mollie that's a hydra and you probably know both of the heads. It should be obvious as to one of them at least.

~BC

it is but don't spoil their fun.

I will be right back will you be around? I have to step for like 15 minutes

[Lush Life]

A man will trust Lush lady to lynch the scum later if there are too many englamored by cabd/ph. Trust a man when he says that was a legit cabd slip. It doesn't happen often and it's a real shame it isn't being acted on. What bothers a man the most about it is that if he's right, that implicates other well seasoned players because they would be more apt to skip over the opening posts because they're essentially the same most every game.

A man is just as certain on Su Casa as on GCBC; Katarina has high suspicion as well.

I do see what you are saying about cabd. I have actually spotted scummy cabd on d1 before but couldn't get it past nacho and then cabd put forth this retarded idea to lynch the mod and nacho and majiffy and every1 else were like "yeah" and of course I was nked but tammy finally wore nacho down in their hydra and kuribo helped and he was lynched in lylo.

it is a slip by definition in that I think cabd might possibly have revealed his true motivations when he said (altho tbh i thought fery said it) that scum were more likely to pay attention to the details in the op while town were more likely to gloss over them. <--- I wholeheartedly agree with that statement cos I have found this to be true. that post struck me the same way it struck you and it is the scummiest post in the entire game IMO. but trying to explain this to people who lack experience and/or have a different approach than you is very hard. I think they are possibly indie but grpscum points to kise/bubba/rememory as potential partners and tbh with game flow that is kind of what it looks like except if I turn the spin the axis in a different direction I can see them as mebbe town altho that desp town read was truly awful. I am loosely townreading kise right now, feeling underwhelmed by that kittens thing and bubba looks like lynchbait. so I want to dig a bit deeper.

what we are seeing I think is a meta relative tell by cabd and those are very hard to push through cos people don't have a baseline for comparison. and borky had a point about fery on her place out that I find myself agreeing with. so i have them as unsure but treat with caution even tho I am going to treat them as town for a while to see what that feels like.

my biggest concern is getting lazy/apathetic town to form some cohesion and get more connected to the game. I think some players are overwhelmed with the meta-heaviness of the game and that is a signal to me that they are feeling left out. <--- I want to draw them in. lets give gcbc a bit of space and look elsewhere mebbe?

my other concern right now is that we get you to a place where you have more credibility than what you have. even tho you are an IC I think you are an unlikely n1 kill only because the rest of the players of the game aren't taking you seriously. <---lets fix that. thinking we have at least some sort of protective role so lets put you in a position where they will want to protect you okay? does this sound like a plan?

what we want to do is give less room for scum to hide. <--- majiffy and I just talked about this and we both tend to think like this but with radical approaches to doing it. he has this funny idea that he is never a nk option it always cracks me up in games cos he most defo is.

so lets start here; who is in your town pile? I have heard you say kagami several times so lets draw her in. lets talk about her. I see mac's point altho she did make 1 post that I really liked. I am wondering if the lack of ontargetscumhunting is cos there is a lot going on in the game that she can really respond to. so lets mebbe resolve that?

also, bubba has not town flailed yet, that is actually the reason why I haven't gotten into a voting war with majiffy yet and he

has

made a couple of good points about bubbascum the only thing I can see bubba doing this as town too.

eta: jesus a shit load of xposts

[Lush Life]

Mollie that's a hydra and you probably know both of the heads. It should be obvious as to one of them at least.

~BC

we know we saw the email link that has since been removed. let them have their fun.

I like them. different playstyles since they come from a different site but I like them.

[Lush Life]

Oh, I think Messiah Complex might be scum too.
Sorry!

Does anyone know the heads of this hydra by chance?

see this bugs me cos you know, cos I wrote a paragraph about them in that

big long reads list

I gave and my experience with some of the players! perhaps you should it.

[Lush Life]

In case anybody cares, that townsided as fuck micro is officially speakable about now.

~BC

so talk about it! I am listening.

[Lush Life]

pdodge

will some1 plz vig this tia

he did this shit pikman and he was scum

[Lush Life]

let me know if anyone wants my take on past events.

* raises hand *

~BC

1. bc
2. mollie

[Lush Life]

Mollie that's a hydra and you probably know both of the heads. It should be obvious as to one of them at least.

~BC

we know we saw the email link that has since been removed. let them have their fun.

I like them. different playstyles since they come from a different site but I like them.

I actually have no clue what their email was I just kinda guessed it from the tone.

~BC

it was in their link, borky pointed it out to me.

I still like them.

but lets talk about messiah. I would like your take on that slot

[Lush Life]

@Mollie:

I saw your post earlier today. The more of see you in two days is because Chamber and I want to discuss the thread together. We are trying to find time between my work schedule in order to do this. I'm already halfway through the thread, (I stopped reading earlier at page 20.) but had to go to work. I have to agree with Chamber that reading the earlier pages was just meh. It's like those posts were sorta time sensitive you know and touching up on any of those subjects is like past history. I do have some reads, but I wanna discuss with Chamber before posting them.

the points on that slot had nothing to do with history or even meta; it is the kind of post I would leap all over regardless of player but that it came from the 2 that it did made any scumreading on that slot sensitive. there was a shitton of info that spilled out from that section tho from other players so mebbe you can read some sections again if you have time?

[Lush Life]

I already read your mind on them, remember? I mean desp is running around signing up for other games but CBA to play this one?

I was hoping for a more in depth analysis.

and when I reread your post again I wondered if I was misconstruing what you were actually saying.

are you reading them as scum? if so what do you want to do about it?

majiffy and I are working things out. I am not going to push to move our vote until bubba starts town flailing, so far he kind of isn't. I feel like he has locked himself into a softclaim and will at some point have to deliver or be nked. <---- it really is as simple as that.

but more talk about messiah yeah?

[Lush Life]

Like?

clarification question: are you wanting to know what town flail looks like or what majiffy's couple of good points were?

[Lush Life]

I'm heading out to work a 10-10 and Fish is doing the same IIRC; content from us later.

Morph and Lush--we're town. Are you guys town?

Because if you're town, and we can sort that out quickly, the scum are borked (hahagetit). So let's not dilly-dally, yeah?

- Des

Reach out as commented upon. My initial thought was "why does scumdesp do this after snowing mollie" but then like ten seconds later I was like "oh wait this is exactly what I'd do if I had just snowed mollie"

BLA BLA BLA

i'm catching up today. see you soon

Hey so are we!

Wanna schedule a date to chat? I'll be here around 7pm EST

- Des

Never followed up on so eh.

I fucking hate my new boss, what should have been an 8 hour day turned into a 12 hour one, which I went straight home to a pissy fiancé and 4 month old that refused to be put down.

Desp and I did have a chance to talk briefly last night though. We are breaking the thread down into easier to handle blocks because Jesus fuck 29 pages...

I am going first and will try to have observations and analysis from the first 10 pages. Anything I should know going into this?

Oh, and just to avoid confusion, I generally don't sign my posts, while Desp does. I figure that you'd have to be functionally retarded to confuse us.

My apologies to all you functional retards in this thread.

Fish makes a post but once again mostly just fluff.

So there's not much to read into this but the fact that both heads are a postin elsewhere is one of those big red flags and or X thingies that Andrious (RIP buddy, we miss you come back) likes to use.



~BC

okay so what do you want to do with this?

I find it weird that you were oh so ready to put them in your town bloc but suddenly realised that they should never have been there in the first place after it was pointed out which may have been independent from my read and mac's with your own developement of that read.

my concern is that the greatest skill a scum player can have is the ability to anticipate town herd mentality. <----you have this ability. in your town games you seem to lack confidence at times where you should have it but that is town meta.

gun to your head messiah or bubba?

cos that is most likely what it will come down to. lazy/apathetic town are not complete and total derps or mebbe I am misreading things. they are players we need to bring out of their hidieholes.

also I thought you were not talking to me so why the sudden reach out. you had to have known that I was going to ask.

[Lush Life]

A man would be happy to talk town with Lady Lush. A man has seen that we aren't seeing things the same as one another and this would be as good a time as any to synch up. Lengthy discussions are often productive

Let's start with Kagami. Overall a girl seems to have no care what others think of her posts. She's asking the the right questions. A man is unsure how to take her nonchalant attitude to the repeated scum accusations. A man doesn't remember playing with or watching a girl play.

it is her nonchalant attitude towards the accusations towards others including your own that bug me not the nonchalant attitude towards the people who are fosing her. if she is a town read lets firm that read up for mac to deliberate. I see where you are coming from in that read, borky is there as well but I am with mac in what I have observed is that she has a significant more transparent play in that she seems to really put herself out there as town and here she simply isn't. <--- feeds my paranoia about her and game dynamics.

I'm pretty sure a man has the same view as m'lady on Mac. He's way too inactive to be scummac, as backwards as that may seem to anyone who hasn't played with him. Though to be fair, a man has never seen him very active on D1 regardless of alignment.

He also seems to be trying to unite rather than divide.

yeah. I have mac as firm town for right now. I would like to set him up so he won't be lynched later by dumb town cos they might!

A man would very much like dramatic to taste his steel, but his name hasn't been whispered and his soul would likely not sate the gods at any cause. The fact a boy wants Jaqen to speak with the

common

common tongue illustrates his desire to understand and figure things out, which gives him a de facto town status.

I have him for similar town reasons too! do you think you can make it work with him?

While discussing town is productive, a man would like to briefly talk about scum soon. Particularly his propensity to latch onto an early bus vote as scum with a town who is being ignored for later credit. A boy often camps that vote until getting off doesn't turn into a purple wedding. Which, I suppose soft clears hot pie. As a test to be sure, a man believes this will be left untouched and uncommented on because it wasn't read.[/quoted]

who are you talking about here

Kise is another a man isn't sure if a Lady sees the town in like a man does. At the least there seems to be some going back and forth on. Is that just so? Kise gave an early tell which a man has seen before and doesn't care what else he may say at this point. Later, maybe. Now, not so much.

okay. taking tell in under consideration even tho I do not know it. kise is a d3 consideration I think. you know, that simple family add on.

man is having a hard time ignoring 948, just so a Lady knows.

do you want to break this down?

if not I get it you don't want to expose your anonymity.

we can pursue other avenues