Event Card Mafia (Game Over)

Venmar · Post Post #23 (isolation #0) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:11 am

Vote:aronis

Venmar · Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:31 am

Vote: Kublai Khan

Venmar · Post Post #130 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:36 am

Slam dunk woopidy doo!

Vote: Aronis

Venmar · Post Post #139 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:43 am

welp

Vote: Tony PF

never tell me the odds

Venmar · Post Post #145 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:08 am

you're brilliant

A+

Genius

Venmar · Post Post #149 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:48 am

Oh god, not the date joined = skill level BS again.

Venmar · Post Post #151 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:50 am

They can and should if it applies. There's a lot of trash people with old join dates.

Venmar · Post Post #188 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:45 pm

Stalled... stalled.... hmmm... yeah idk if that's a word that would explain this game but ok.

Venmar · Post Post #229 (isolation #8) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:45 am

Is it because my vote on Tony is a blatant sheep of Reck and Juls? Hmm. Sorry man, don't know how to help you.

Venmar · Post Post #298 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:28 am

In post 280, zMuffinMan wrote:
venmar wrote:Is it because my vote on Tony is a blatant sheep of Reck and Juls?
"heh, that venmar guy!
there he goes again! what a kook!"

Clarify what this is supposed to mean?

Venmar · Post Post #302 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:38 am

Woo I just townread Oversoul.

Venmar · Post Post #320 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:35 am

In post 307, farside22 wrote:Why?

I don't know, why not?

Venmar · Post Post #337 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:33 pm

i don't know, aronis wagon seems to be a wagon on town i think, considering aronis just looks dumb rather than scum. much of his content =/= scum, more just anti-town

not sure if im comfortable sheeping anyone, makes me feel empty inside. might change me vote? i don't know

Venmar · Post Post #358 (isolation #13) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:27 am

vote: qwints

Venmar · Post Post #403 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:25 am

qwints, please, you're all over the place and keep vote hopping yourself.

also, lack of content isn't exactly foreign in my play

Venmar · Post Post #495 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:35 am

fuck i need to catch up on this game

Venmar · Post Post #511 (isolation #16) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:04 am

idk, am i supposed to sheep someone here?

i just think qwints is scum, help a bro out?

Venmar · Post Post #514 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:18 am

or you can go stuff it up your bunghole aronis

Venmar · Post Post #517 (isolation #18) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:39 am

papa zito?

idk, i havent really read into him

Venmar · Post Post #527 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:01 pm

In post 362, talah wrote:
In post 360, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 359, Prof Fridays wrote:UNVOTE: (Tony PF) in favor of giving PeregrineV a chance, haha.
Why would you do this. It's still the same slot.

UNVOTE: Aronis
VOTE: KingdomAces

As the Aronis wagon has also, unfortunately, ground to a halt.
Yeah except KA's probably not scum. Did you see how I asked him what was going on with him missing that TiP was quoting saying he was scum in the spoiler? And then he answered that he wasn't even fucking reading properly and missed the point. So yeah, pick another target and IGMEOU.

Honestly I dunno if I even need to be V/LA compared to half the playerlist deciding to post so rarely.

Pere, be town.

ouch, this post is scummy

Venmar · Post Post #532 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:13 pm

In post 529, talah wrote:You suck.

VOTE: Venmar

what the fuck is this?

are you for real right now?

Venmar · Post Post #557 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:57 am

In post 536, talah wrote:It's me happy as hell to sheep zMuffin onto your wagon because I have absolutely no reason to think that you're town.

vote talah

what is scumhunting? ez pz

Venmar · Post Post #558 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:59 am

In post 549, Oversoul wrote:But I like Talah's analysis in his most recent posts. There's something abou that writing that really speaks to me and reminds me of my own town self when trying to convey a point that others just do not (refuse?) to see.

woawoawoawoa hold on buddy, don't backpedal my townread here, there's no reason why wat talah said should make sense from both his and yours town perspective

Venmar · Post Post #598 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:43 am

In post 560, Oversoul wrote:The tone, diction, and syntax remind me of myself when I become a dejected townie trying to explain something.

but..ugh whatever, i get it, this is virtually the same reason (tone, reaction, etc) that got me to townread you anyways. all i can do is cross my arms, make a constipated face, and frown at you i guess

In post 562, zMuffinMan wrote:why?

and why do you think qwints is scum?

1. mainly for the "be town" comment
2. this is looking similar to his scum meta, and he's been very jumpy and opportunistic with his votes

Venmar · Post Post #600 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:58 am

yeah yeah whatever nobody cares

Venmar · Post Post #658 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:02 am

In post 617, zMuffinMan wrote:(1) i don't get why you thought that was scummy. it looked like nothing more than a playful comment hoping PV was town.
(2) what is his "scum meta"?

1, nope
2, this

Venmar · Post Post #686 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:51 pm

hrmrmmmm

yeah my talah vote isnt moving

lynch it plox

Venmar · Post Post #706 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:15 am

If we need a lynch to happen, just compromise on talah? best wagon, largest wagon, get your tickets here?

Venmar · Post Post #708 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:42 am

wow you're stupid aren't you?

Venmar · Post Post #719 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:25 am

In post 716, Iecerint wrote:I'll vote for KK or Venmar if Muffin tells me to.

Unvote; Vote: Venmar

Cuz I think he's voting Venmar right now.

weren't you like calling me town pretty hard not too long ago?

Venmar · Post Post #763 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:17 am

Guys, deadline is a thing, can we lynch Talah?

Venmar · Post Post #814 (isolation #31) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:48 am

Talah today, qwints tomorrow, elect me for president

Venmar · Post Post #819 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:57 am

In post 815, qwints wrote:^
Scum scrambling to save self.

thats... lol yeah okay, whatever you say

Venmar · Post Post #875 (isolation #33) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:36 am

WHY ARENT PEOPLE VOTING TALAH

CMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

Venmar · Post Post #918 (isolation #34) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:23 am

go lean town on someone else

vote qwints

Venmar · Post Post #926 (isolation #35) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:05 am

nvm talah is larger wagon

vote talah

but holy fuck why is the wagon me so big? you tools need to fuck off

Venmar · Post Post #942 (isolation #36) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:46 pm

In post 940, Oversoul wrote:Not exactly compelling.

but deadline

Venmar · Post Post #966 (isolation #37) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:04 am

seriously lynching me is wrong on a night action level

fuck off holy shit poo

Venmar · Post Post #967 (isolation #38) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:08 am

im not giving exaplanations because i feel like i don't have to, and i don't do it in the first place anyways

Venmar · Post Post #969 (isolation #39) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:33 am

fucking lol

reckoner you scum?

Venmar · Post Post #971 (isolation #40) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:46 am

actually, even though lynching me is bad for town, it might actually be a bliss for me

Venmar · Post Post #979 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:14 am

Okay since i'm L-2 and everyone on this town is stupid as shit,

I'm a

Town Bodyguard (x2-Shot BP Vest)

Venmar · Post Post #983 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:19 am

2x doctor, then 1x bodyguard i guess

Venmar · Post Post #985 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:20 am

I didn't know he claimed, i'm not reading that closely, did it look like I did before?

what claim

Venmar · Post Post #987 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:23 am

ermmm, don't think it's a claim? looks like a joke? I wouldn't counterclaim soft bullshit like that?

Venmar · Post Post #989 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:28 am

i didn't notice it, and now that you have pointed it, i still don't really care? protective roles aren't exactly as 1 per game exclusive as cops, vigs, trackers?

you still think im scum, sure, whatever

Venmar · Post Post #1008 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:03 am

In post 989, Venmar wrote:i still don't really care? protective roles aren't exactly as 1 per game exclusive as cops, vigs, trackers?

Venmar · Post Post #1009 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:04 am

stupid farside, now i have to protect him

Venmar · Post Post #1012 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:06 am

jailkeeper doesn't counterclaim a doctor, y do u do dis omg

Venmar · Post Post #1016 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:10 am

in an advertised SWINGY game, that has fucking 25 players, you find the probablity of town having 2 protective roles fucking obsene? this game probably has like 6 scum or some shit, and you think town is going to get just 1 investigate, 1 protective, and then 1 killing role and then some shitty passives and semi-roles, IN A SWINGY GAME?

HOLY FUCK

PLEASE

Venmar · Post Post #1018 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:12 am

i get to protect two fucking people this night too

Venmar · Post Post #1020 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:12 am

In post 1017, farside22 wrote:
In post 983, Venmar wrote:2x doctor, then 1x bodyguard i guess
I mean really the pm you received explains what you do.

YES IT DOES

YES

IT

DOES

IM A FUCKING BODYGUARD, WITH A FUCKING VEST

Venmar · Post Post #1021 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:13 am

wow sorry i forgot how many scum are in this? im a terrible person

Venmar · Post Post #1022 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:14 am

if i don't get mislynched here im not going to protect farside, so scum can go ahead and kill him

Venmar · Post Post #1023 (isolation #54) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:14 am

OH INB4 IM SCUM AND AM GOING TO KILL FARSIDE

OHOHOHOHOHO

fuck off

Venmar · Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:43 am

vote qwints

Venmar · Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:44 am

we dont have time to do a zito lynch

and qwints is like still one of the best lynches

Venmar · Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:09 pm

so theres literally 50 minutes left

someone hammer qwints

Venmar · Post Post #1121 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:45 am

I protected Oversoul, cause yeah

Venmar · Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:10 am

In post 1137, Oversoul wrote:Although I am curious why not Farside?

something about him being a couple rooms from me

Venmar · Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:10 am

Venmar · Post Post #1164 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 1158, farside22 wrote:Well he said he wasn't protecting me.

If you were closer to my room I probably would have protected you, I am smart enough to overcome past stupidity.

Farside, since you know I did not protect you, and the amount of kills last night seems to account for the max amount of kills, why do you think you're still alive?

Venmar · Post Post #1220 (isolation #62) » Thu May 01, 2014 2:56 am

I protected Oversoul, but since I am a protective role I don't know if that action succeeded or not? If Talah got back that she saw me go nowhere then she's either lying, is scum, or I myself was roleblocked and came across as going nowhere to talah.

Considering BOTH BBMolla and Kingdom of Aces were at least 2 rooms away from mine, scum wouldn't roleblock me fearing I would stop their kill, so the chances of me being blocked are very slim since there would be no point behind it.

So Talah is either lying or was roleblocked. But why would scum roleblock Talah?

In post 1191, farside22 wrote:
Either I'm wrong or my bet is scum targeted bb last night. I seriously don't see why people are looking at ka post.
Plus keeping me alive makes people wifom about you and me.

Curious as to why you think the scum killed Molla and/or Ace over you and/or me. Usually keeping alive two protective or investigative roles just to WIFOM players is kind of a stupid move by scum, so why are you still alive?

Venmar · Post Post #1225 (isolation #63) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:26 am

Trying to deduce if you're actually scum Farside? So far i've been leaning this way from your responses...

Who did you target Farside? And why haven't you said so yet?

Venmar · Post Post #1227 (isolation #64) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:33 am

You're being anti-town/scum by refusing to reveal your target, not helping me townread you m'lady

Venmar · Post Post #1229 (isolation #65) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:38 am

In post 1226, farside22 wrote:Why would you think I was scum from my responses?
They come across as witty remarks I would make as scum, and a lot of your answers come back as questions, as if by deflection? Could've just given me straight answers.

In post 1226, farside22 wrote: Your asking why I'm alive how the fuck would I know?

The point was more of to see what you thought, not how you would know, and your response to my questions.

Venmar · Post Post #1230 (isolation #66) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:39 am

woops the formatting is dead

fixed:

In post 1229, Venmar wrote:
In post 1226, farside22 wrote:Why would you think I was scum from my responses?
They come across as witty remarks I would make as scum, and a lot of your answers come back as questions, as if by deflection? Could've just given me straight answers.

In post 1226, farside22 wrote: Your asking why I'm alive how the fuck would I know?
The point was more of to see what you thought, not how you would know, and your response to my questions.

Venmar · Post Post #1231 (isolation #67) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:39 am

In post 1228, farside22 wrote:and ignoring everything else in the game.

but... lol ok

Venmar · Post Post #1238 (isolation #68) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:55 am

See, giving me a straight answer is better?

Venmar · Post Post #1369 (isolation #69) » Fri May 02, 2014 9:04 am

Yeah so I kind of tuned out of this game yesterday and now I think I am slightly behind. Someone summarize why Iec is scum/being voted.

Venmar · Post Post #1446 (isolation #70) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:21 am

Okay.

TIP isn't going to be lynched today

We are not going to be lynching people just because of where they were in a room alone, that's stupid and it's like shooting in the dark, it could be anyone regardless of your townreads.

We are going to lynch scum.

Okay?

Lets start here:

[/b]Vote: Juls[/b]

Venmar · Post Post #1447 (isolation #71) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:21 am

vote: Juls

DeltaWave is in this game?

Hi

Venmar · Sat May 03, 2014 10:13 am

In post 1449, Iecerint wrote:Another person who clearly isn't reading the game.

Also someone who isn't scumreading you >.>

Venmar · Sat May 03, 2014 10:48 am

Not what I was referring to either? The thing about the rooms was meant to be independent of what I said about TIP, if that's what confused you?

Venmar · Post Post #1490 (isolation #74) » Sun May 04, 2014 6:20 pm

I Just had a small injury with my bad knee that I broke in the past, i'm going to be taking a short V/LA to rest and heal and make sure it's okay. Sorry for inconveniences.

Venmar · Mon May 05, 2014 12:56 pm

Im really drained right now, all i can say is that TIP isnt the best lynch today at all.

Venmar · Tue May 06, 2014 10:13 am

Feeling better now,

I think TIP and Iece are actually both likely to be town, or at least Iec.

Despite me protecting him N1 and generally trusting him Day 1, having second thoughts on Oversoul, my gut and his actions in general are making me start to lean scum on him. This was around the same time where I got a jerk reaction to Farside being scum, someone who I think I am still conflicted on over her alignment.

Now, despite me thinking 2+ protective roles is possible a game, I don't think 3 town trackers is possible. Since I think Iec is scum, I think Talah is the one more likely of the three to be the scum.

Soo...

I guess....

My scumreads are... Juls, Oversoul, Talah, and Papa Zito (haven't said much about him, but yes I do buy into the suspicion on him)?

Most other people I townread or having null reads on. Still analyzing Nacho, would like to see more posts from him.

Venmar · Tue May 06, 2014 10:15 am

oh cool, i'm 2 now!

Venmar · Tue May 06, 2014 11:04 am

#Beetlejuice

Venmar · Post Post #1613 (isolation #79) » Tue May 06, 2014 4:48 pm

In post 1612, Oversoul wrote:Venmar is the weakest I think. Looking at his play and his claim, its just convenient.

Venmar · Post Post #1677 (isolation #80) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:05 am

I think Nacho is town so far.

TIP and Bulbazak aren't good people to pursue right now >.>

Venmar · Post Post #1681 (isolation #81) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:43 am

Venmar · Post Post #1687 (isolation #82) » Wed May 07, 2014 9:27 am

Vote: Oversoul

I mean, Juls can wait, but really what is this?

Venmar · Post Post #1693 (isolation #83) » Wed May 07, 2014 3:11 pm

In post 1690, talah wrote:When did you get a scumread on Oversoul, and why? Walk me through your thinking on this please.

You claimed you protected Oversoul last night. Something significant must have happened.

Just read my recent posts, the longer one, it's mainly gut.

Venmar · Post Post #1700 (isolation #84) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:47 pm

In post 1697, Aronis wrote:Say 'gut' and I'll dayvig you this instant.

gut

Venmar · Post Post #1702 (isolation #85) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:20 pm

do it

Venmar · Post Post #1711 (isolation #86) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:57 am

wow what a surprise, I didn't die

nice one aronis, like i ever gave a fuck about you

Venmar · Thu May 08, 2014 10:10 am

Semi lurking is just another way to say active lurking Aronis, thanks for admitting it even though you're probably a VI

Venmar · Post Post #1760 (isolation #88) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:01 pm

In post 1732, talah wrote:Why did you tell him to use his shot on you?

If you're town and he's town, you've just wasted two shots of town power.

Umm because I didn't believe that he had one to begin with, or that he would be so daft to be so easily dicked into "shooting" me, which i'm not convinced he actually did by the way.

Venmar · Post Post #1761 (isolation #89) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:03 pm

FYI, theory alert, I believe one of Zito and Oversoul are scum, guaranteed, if not both.

Why?

Molla was in their room and Molla died. I was also in said room. If Molla was shot in the same room as a claimed bodyguard, it would have to be someone close to Molla or someone close enough to me to block me, so a kill on Molla could be carried out in confidence.

My mind works in mysterious ways, piss off if you think i'm barking mad.

Venmar · Post Post #1762 (isolation #90) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:08 pm

This theory of course makes it likely that I was the one blocked, not Talah, which makes Talah the lying tracker if Iece got a null on her when she claimed to have visit me.

Unless in the brief period I was inactive I missed intricate details about the actual night actions of Iece and AD.

Venmar · Post Post #1763 (isolation #91) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:12 pm

Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

So

Venny concludes

Same thing I said before

Scumreads of Talah, Oversoul and/or Papa Zito, and Juls as the less associated with the others scumread.

Of course i'm not dillusional and realize none of these people are getting lynched today unless I turn into like Mattp or some other wagon forming wizard, but the other wagons right now really are shit.

Venmar · Post Post #1816 (isolation #92) » Fri May 09, 2014 3:23 am

How isn't Talah on that list

Venmar · Post Post #1818 (isolation #93) » Fri May 09, 2014 3:32 am

Everyone on that list is off the tables today? Why list such minir scumreads like Pere over Talah.

Venmar · Post Post #1897 (isolation #94) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:49 pm

In post 1890, Iecerint wrote:Geography alone accounts for talah's null result and mine, so "find the lying tracker" is not a thing.

I think I am looking at most than just the "tracker" part here, and accounting myself and the other people in my room as well.

Venmar · Post Post #1903 (isolation #95) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:11 am

I am not helping you guys lynch neither Bulba or TIP, they're both likely town in my eyes.

Venmar · Post Post #1906 (isolation #96) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:08 am

Aronis is a VI, please make a better vote.

Venmar · Post Post #1925 (isolation #97) » Sun May 11, 2014 2:09 pm

What? How do you go from criticizing me about Aronis to voting him?

Venmar · Post Post #1945 (isolation #98) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:29 pm

Ugh

Please I don't know who to vote first ;_;

Venmar · Post Post #1993 (isolation #99) » Tue May 13, 2014 3:20 am

That's a weird reason to get prodded

Not going to support any of these wagons, other than maybe a last ditch Aronis wagon.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 3:27 am

In post 1991, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1990, TheIrishPope wrote:Nacho isn't a good lynch if you're really considering that muffin. he's being more active than most people and that works in our favor
"Our" ?

Nitpick?

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 3:59 am

You're nitpicking more than looking for details if you think saying "our" instantly means "scum" rather than just the game itself or the town, which is the more logical explanation.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 1:52 pm

Stupid Mafia, that was like the coolest event they could have vetoed from us.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:01 pm

I protect twice?

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:06 pm

I presume I lose two portions of my vest.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:13 pm

In post 2103, Oversoul wrote:What if you only have one portion of your vest?

Idk? one guys lives the other doesnt then

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:18 pm

I'll do what I want, you getting protected no matter what pleb

(k i wont do it)

(or will I?)

(hahahahah the mystery!)

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:57 pm

In post 2109, talah wrote:Any chance you could clarify with the mod what your role does in Double Action please Venmar? It kind of seems conflicting that single-shot uses don't get doubled but the bodyguard component isn't single-shot...

Can you also ask if you get notified of shots being used in your vest? The only other time I've seen BP bodyguard was in Gundam SEED and I'm pretty sure that the role there got notified if the shot was used.

I'll probably ask but at this point I likely won't reveal what I find since I still am a fucking protective role, i'm not going to spill the beans on how strong i'll be this night.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Also Zito has a good point I think..

Hmm.. my lynches aren't happening so I think i'll

Vote: Veto

For now.

Venmar · Tue May 13, 2014 2:59 pm

Wait i'm confused did Farside or Zito point out the thingy about Nacho?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:32 am

C-can we veto.. first?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:42 am

Who's the scum then?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 12:59 pm

Can we just veto?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 2:02 pm

*sigh*

In the interest of avoiding a No-Lynch

Vote: TIP

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 2:43 pm

@People saying I am a better lynch

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 2:45 pm

Oh, would I be the hammer?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:06 pm

Vote: Nacho

Cause better lynch than TIP

And I agree

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:25 pm

I mean neighbor just tells the person who gets neighbored that the person who did it is a neighborizer. The whole nature of a neighborhood is that you don't know the alignments of those in it, so it would have made Nacho town anyways.

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:26 pm

*wouldn't have made Nacho town

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:27 pm

In post 2381, Oversoul wrote:VOTE: Nacho

Bulba's vote is what did it in for that TIP wagon. Ugh. This whole day has sucked.

You are just plain out scum, aren't you?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:27 pm

In post 2394, zMuffinMan wrote:it's not a neighbouriser, it's a friendly neighbour

it's basically a fruit vendor except the message is a mod confirmation the fruit vendor is town

Meh?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 3:58 pm

In post 2406, Oversoul wrote:But keep clutching for reasons to call me scum

What? How do you have the fucking right to say this? My suspicion of you isn't as farfetched or obscene as you just made it sound, or prolonged to the point i'm clutching. You call for my lynch, and then as soon as I drop my vote on Nacho, you instantly follow suit in voting Nacho? What?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 6:29 pm

Votecount has me on the veto vote as well.

Venmar · Tue May 20, 2014 10:01 am

Protected Iecerint and Farside.

I'll care enough to do more when i come home.

Venmar · Tue May 20, 2014 10:33 am

kinky

Whats Magua's role.

Venmar · Tue May 20, 2014 2:34 pm

Why isn't ActionDan dead.

Venmar · Tue May 20, 2014 2:38 pm

Either Metal or Iece are lying. If AD was blocked he wouldn't have visited and Metal, explaining why he is alive, but then Iece wouldn't have gotten results, like Iece did. If AD wasn't blocked, then Iece would see AD as he is now but AD would be dead to PGO.

Who's lying.

Venmar · Wed May 21, 2014 2:34 am

Am I like supposed to know whats going on with all these claims?

Venmar · Wed May 28, 2014 6:15 am

Um

So ill catch up later, that downtime disconnected me from this game hardcore.

Venmar · Fri May 30, 2014 4:21 am

I made my submissions.

Are you guys voting mnem because of Talah results?

Venmar · Sat May 31, 2014 1:00 pm

I voted for Black Light

Venmar · Sat May 31, 2014 2:06 pm

Yes? Your point?

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:19 am

In post 3189, farside22 wrote:
In post 2828, Iecerint wrote:I thought farside claimed to have jailkept cheerydog and someone else (I guess you?) and Venmar claimed to bulletproof-bodyguard me and farside. (I remember Cheerydog because I tracked him to nowhere, accounted for by the jailkeep).

I do not understand why you think you are more likely to have been the target than me or farside. Or I just don't remember target claims. I can't find farside's jailkeep claim with ctrl+f for example.
Wait venmar claimed to target me and iec so...

Vote venmar

I want awnsers.

No fucking idea what you're asking of me here? I don't have any goo in my role PM that I know of?

I protected Juls last night.

Vote: Oversoul

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:40 am

Juls / Farside, does it state you have Goo in your role PM's?

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:50 am

Okay, well I don't have a goo so does that mean i've never been targeted by someone with goo? Agar isn't showing up as with goo so that actually makes his claim a tiny bit more legit, idk.

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:07 pm

I think Zito is more likely to be scum than Bulba

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:08 pm

Sooo

Vote: Papa Zito

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:09 pm

I think track resolves before vig tho

Venmar · Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:11 pm

Oh wait, for some reason I thought Killing came after Investigative. I'm dumb lol.

Venmar · Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:36 am

Juls didn't submit a kill once or twice I believe, does that bother you too?

PEdit: @Farside

Venmar · Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:36 am

Zito scum probably means Oversoul town, by the way.

Venmar · Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:38 am

HOLY FUCK YES, I JUST REALIZED CLYTON REPLACED ACTIONDAN, I WAS WONDERING RIGHT NOW WHY WE AREN'T LOOKING INTO AD

AAHAHAHAHA

Venmar · Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:40 am

.... I think that just made me realize i'm still a bit out of sync with this game, lol.

Venmar · Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:50 am

Zito is the only one glowing out of the people who were in Mollas geopgraphy room. I don't think anything else needs to be said :/

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:05 am

I protected AGar, I assumed mafia would go for the Tracker who can clear people over a vig who can miss and a jailkeeper who i personally didn't fully trust and might also mis-jail.

I personally have faith in AGar that he is town. Juls, go away.

I'll catch up on who to vote later.

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:07 am

Also, Oversoul is now town.

Sorry buddy

, no hard feelings I hope, it was pure business, I just knew one of you or Zito were scum based on Geography.

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:17 am

:/

Sorry, I can't protect everyone really, but I would prefer if you wouldn't purposefully try to attack my vest and hurt the town, fuck.

In post 3574, Oversoul wrote:It's Pere

VOTE: Pere

Hmm?

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:08 pm

Juls, last scum has goo on them. AGar wasn't highlighted on blacklight, and neither was I. How do you presume he is scum then? How did he get his goo overnight?

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:34 pm

Juls, shoot AGar this night.

Venmar · Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:34 pm

Going to wait for votecount before I vote Peregrine

Venmar · Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:47 am

In post 3643, Juls wrote:IF WE MAKE IT TO 5 PEOPLE AND VENMAR IS ALIVE, LYNCH VENMAR

This really shouldn't happen under any circumstance at this point.

Venmar · Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:50 am

Vote: PeregrineV

Venmar · Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:17 pm

Dia De Los Muertos is probably the best submission.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:34 am

Ok i'll protect AGar

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:22 pm

Why would I be lynched in any scenario right now, holy fuck, as if I wasn't basically confirmed town :/

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:32 pm

In post 3682, Magua wrote:- If Agar dies, lynch Venmar.
- If Shadoweh dies, lynch me.

No, you should take it that I think these two lines are stupid, you shouldn't be setting up lynches in scenarios that scum can exploit.

Why am I supposed to die when 5 are left? I am so bemused right now.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:37 pm

In post 3695, Juls wrote:Cause you could be lying? If you are scum you are controlling kills so....

If Agar dies, you didn't protect him

But i'm not? I already stopped 1 fucking kill from you and 1 possible one on Night 2, either on Iecerint or Farside, both of which are super fucking likely.

How about I random protect and AGar tracks me?

Like what do I have to do to have people fucking trust me in this stupid game.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:39 pm

Right.

Just shoot me then, I WILL die if you shoot me.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:44 pm

I'm not?

I'm not protecting AGar.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:55 pm

In post 3703, Shadoweh wrote:Venmar stop being stubborn, no one wants to lynch you today or tomorrow so please just protect who they asked you to (maybe scum will shoot you ) and save the arguing for like literally 7 days from now

I just feel like I shouldn't have to explain to people why I am town, and that plastering me to a player defeats the purpose of my role, which is to stop deaths and keep the scum guessing on where i'll be.

Venmar · Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Venmar · Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:13 am

What doesn't make sense?

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:55 pm

AGar who did you track last night and the night before. Give results.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:58 pm

Regular:

Original Roll String: 1d24

1 24-Sided Dice: (20) = 20

Lylo:

Original Roll String: 1d14

1 14-Sided Dice: (10) = 10

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:00 pm

AGar this is important.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:09 pm

Shadoweh said Prof Friday went nowhere in Universe 2, so I believe that clears him. If we combine this with decent results from AGar some PoV could be used I think.

I want AGars results before I post mine or do anything else.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:09 pm

PoV=PoE, misspell

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:30 pm

;_;

whats going on

pls

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:39 pm

In post 3791, Oversoul wrote:Magua lied that's what

Via the vest transfer?

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:44 pm

I protected Shadoweh last night.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:46 pm

I am not kidding. I protected AGar N5, Shadoweh last night. I had to double check with Zoraster to make sure he received my night action and it wasn't a mistake. Last scum is quite clearly a strongman and I fucking want AGar's results.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:50 pm

Or maybe last scum has Yellow Goo? Both Juls and Shadoweh had yellow goo, so did ActionDan, who was scum. I don't know why everyone keeps thinking Yellow=Town.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:59 pm

Magua wrote:Venmar, kindly explain your role to me please.

I'm not a 2x-shot Bodyguard, i'm a Town Doctor.

Probably anti-town of me to keep pretending otherwise.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:01 pm

This day has already become such a mindfuck, holy shit

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:08 pm

Wait what the fuck

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:21 pm

Room 6

Brian Skies

TheIrishPope

mnemonicdevice

Magua

Room 5

xReckonerX

Prof Fridays

farside22

Kublai Khan

Room 4

Metal Sonic

Bulbazak

talah

Agar

Room 3

Venmar

Oversoul

GuyInFreezer

Papa Zito

Room 2

qwints

Tony P

Cheery Dog

Juls

Room 1

ActionDan

Aronis

Iecerint

zMuffinMan
KingdomAces

Blue = potentially cleared through tracks
Green = town

I just thought it was really cool every room had 1 scum except for 2 and 4, and 4 has cheery dog as the last alive. Idk, not saying 2 scum in one room isn't possible, but it's a thought.

Also, Magua, i'm quite sure I stopped Juls kill on AGar Night 4, and Night 5 if that happened again.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:23 pm

Actually, if AGar clears Aronis, last scum is either Oversoul, Bulbazak, or AGar really. I think people said MS and Cheery were town because of goo shenanigans, but how reliable is that now with the Shadoweh relevance?

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:26 pm

Hmm, N4 and N5 I was on AGar, N6 I was on Shadoweh...

How possible would it be that I got goo from AGar and dropped it onto Shadoweh last night? This would pretty much mean AGar has been lying about his tracks though.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:28 pm

Wait a minute.

Juls went to AGar on N4, the night I saved AGar from her. That means AGar got goo from her, and I picked it up N5.

THIS MEANS I HAVE YELLOW GOO

DID I JUST FIGURE IT OUT?

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:31 pm

I actually have no idea lol, I think Shadoweh always had Yellow, it's more likely I dropped blue goo and zoraster forgot about it, but I don't know how I would have gotten blue goo.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:38 pm

Why would she? It's not confirmed the last scum has blue goo really, it's quite possible Shadoweh tracked the person Farside jailed N4

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:45 pm

I don't see how AGar gets blue though, to give to TIP and Aronis.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:03 pm

I just think Shadoweh tracked Farsides jail on N4. I don't think Farside jailed Juls or AGar, since Juls would've flipped with blue, and didn't jail me, since in that scenario AGar would be dead. We know Farside didn't jail the scum since the scum got a kill off of that night. That means AGar and Me are essentially cleared as town, and Brian as well since AGar tracked him. I STRONGLY FUCKING doubt that Farside jailed Shadoweh/Talah. That leaves Peregrine, ZZZX, Metal, Cheery, Friday, Magua, TIP, Bulbazak, Aronis, and Oversoul I believe. PeregrineV and ZZZX are cleared since neither had goo at all when they died. That leaves Metal Sonic, Cheery, TIP, Aronis, Bulbazak, Prof Friday, and Oversoul. I think Farside wouldn't jail Cheery or Metal, since they were seen as strong town after blacklight, and Farside might've overlooked Bulbazak due to the Zito flip. Kind of leaving Aronis, TIP, Prof Friday, and Oversoul. Whoever Farside jailed out of these four, isn't scum. I personally believe she jailed Prof Friday because that explains Shadoweh's blue goo, and since Shadoweh acknowledged the plan the day before N5, probably knew AGar was going to track Aronis as per the plan, meaning Shadoweh couldn't have gotten blue goo from Aronis last night, and accordingly not TIP since she probably knew AGar went there last night. That literally leaves Oversoul and Prof Friday as the last possibilities. WHICH ONE SOLVES THE PUZZLE? PROF FRIDAY.

That doesn't really make Oversoul scum necesarilly though, I PoE'd Cheery, Metal, and Bulba early in that since I just figured they wouldn't get jailed. All three of these could have been the killers in hindsight.

BASICALLY, last scum is in Oversoul, Cheery Dog, Metal, and Bulbazak. If we try to clear the latter three via goo, which we CAN, that means Oversoul is scum.

Venmar · Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:13 pm

Just found out my brain skipped some cells when I said AGar is confirmed town since Farside didn't jail him, using the logic those blocked werent scum. Lets just hope he is town, k?

Last scum is either Oversoul or AGar basically.

Going to sleep now. Magua please figure out the rest, kthxbai

Venmar · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:28 am

In post 3827, Cheery Dog wrote:When did Agar get blue goo for you to have got it from him?

He didn't, I have Yellow Goo. Shadoweh got Blue for Friday, and always had Yellow

Prof Fridays wrote:
In post 3825, Venmar wrote:BASICALLY, last scum is in Oversoul, Cheery Dog, Metal, and Bulbazak. If we try to clear the latter three via goo, which we CAN, that means Oversoul is scum.
How can {Cheery Dog, Metal Sonic, Bulbazak} be Goo-cleared, exactly? It seems to me the mafioso could have any type of Goo on him and it wouldn't matter as to what the victims flipped. I mean, it makes sense to believe MS, but I don't think Cheery Dog and Bulbazak are clear - are they? Perhaps I'm overlooking a piece.

Well they were cleared for why they had goo. Cheery got his goo from Iece, Iece got his goo from Actiondan, and Actiondan got his goo from Metal Sonic, all during the same double action night. Metal claimed some kind of a goo role if i remember correctly, so it accounts for why cheery, iece, and actiondan all had goo in the end. It pieces the puzzle of blacklight together very well to be honest. Bulbazak is goo cleared because of something Magua did, he should clarify for us what that was. Bulbazak was KIND OF a 1v1 with Zito, and zito flipped scum.

Either way, last scum seems to be be immune to picking up goo, because if they had the ability to get goo, Juls would have blue goo right now, as the same scum killed Farside the night before. Neither do they have goo themselves, if they had blue juls would have blue, if they had yellow farside would have yellow, same thing if said scum had both goo. Last scum really is a confusing find if we try to do it exclusively via goo anyway, best to assume they are immune to it and the scum for whatever reason chose not to use this person from the get-go.

@Metal - I wouldn't exactly go and sheep me so quickly. I REALLY want Magua to chip in because he understands goo way more than me.

Venmar · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:32 am

Oversoul sticks out in that angle too, he didn't have goo on blacklight and nobody has been to him since.

Venmar · Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:16 am

I'm likely not going to survive the night tomorrow, so I want to throw out all I know right now. Goo logic can helps us no matter how powerful the last scum is.

Venmar · Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:21 pm

Why wouldn't the strongman scum kill me way earlier in this game when I claimed to have a vest >.>

Venmar · Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:53 pm

That was meant to be kind of a reply to Oversoul, trying to imply I don't know why scum does what they do in this game.

Honestly, perfecty possible Molla has goo on him kind of how Metal does, and Zito just managed to pick it up. Idk.

Venmar · Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:56 am

In post 3872, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 3840, Venmar wrote:
In post 3827, Cheery Dog wrote:When did Agar get blue goo for you to have got it from him?
He didn't, I have Yellow Goo. Shadoweh got Blue for Friday, and always had Yellow.

So the guess is Farside jailed Friday?

Yes.

Brian the whole assumption is that Friday is the one who was jailkept, not you, I don't know how you got that conclusion.

Goo shenanigans or not, scum really is narrowed down to Oversoul, AGar, or possibly Bulbazak. The whole idea right now should be that AGar doesn't live into LyLo/MyLo anyways.

Confirmed Town:
Me
Prof Friday (Shadoweh clear)
Aronis (AGar Clear)
TIP ( AGar Clear)
Brian Skies (AGar Clear)
- The AGar clears count even if AGar is scum, since he's just clearing them for us no matter what. If he isn't scum they're still cleared.

Maybe Confirmed Town?:
Metal Sonic (Goo Shenanigans)
Cheery Dog (Goo Shenanigans, he and Metal, along with other dead players like Iece, help us explain blacklight very well.)

Strong Town:
Magua (This is based more off of his play and behavior than setup/goo shennigans. I think Magua is playing very pro-town this game. Goo shenanigans and his role also contribute to his towniness.)

The Leftovers:
Oversoul ( Only player who hasn't been visited by someone with goo, that we know of. We're on the assumption right now that the last scum can't pickup goo, and Oversoul didn't have any to begin with. Oversoul has done scummy things in the past too, reasons I ended up scumreading him for. His contradicting view on my fakeclaim is one example, which seemed to simply be him trying to adapt to the game's view on it. As in, he first strongly believed it, then when some people started to doubt it he decided to do the same, etc etc.)
AGar ( Despite his claim and clears AGar remains uncleared, unlike other players, and has had a generally scummy background even before claim. He shouldn't be left alive going into LyLo at the very least. )
Bulbazak ( Bulbazak probably has the least confirmable or least best goo confirmation in the game. Bulbazak also makes sense as scum from a Geography standpoint.)

TL;DR, Last scum is likely in Oversoul, AGar, and Bulbazak. AGar should be lynched last or before LyLo to be honest since I still think he's kind of likely to be town, and we can use him to clear more people I think. Keep in mind, in terms of Geography, these guys also make sense as scum in a way.

Venmar · Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:15 am

Vote: Oversoul

It's unlikely that I will survive the night, to be honest. Lynch order should be something like Oversoul > Bulbazak > AGar (Situational, skip if neccesarry and delay until LyLo?) > Move on to the Magua / people in Maybe confirmed Town.

Venmar · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:54 am

So you think the last scum is A) Some sort of Goo Immune, B) A Ninja, C) A Strongman, and D) Possibly some sort of a JOAT?

Really?

I mean, neither Ninja nor Strongman are really JOAT roles, not to mention the scumteam pretty much has no need for a JOAT, they already had a Tracker, Roleblocker, and Vig Blocker. What is there left for the JOAT to have? A scum JOAT too?

At the very most, a scum JOAT would have Ninja OR Strongman, but not both.

Venmar · Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:37 am

@Oversoul - I haven't hammered you because i'm already voting you.

Venmar · Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:32 pm

Just remember, AGar, Bulbazak, Magua, possible endgame lynches :/

Venmar · Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:08 pm

what the fuck

WHAT THE FUCK

WE JUST LITERALLY

SPENT THE WHOLE DEAD THREAD

TALKING ABOUT HOW AGAR IS THE LAST SCUM

Venmar · Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:48 pm

AGar didn't you track TIP?

Venmar · Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:49 pm

In post 3792, Magua wrote:
TheIrishPope: Agar tracked TheIrishPope to no one N5

Prof Friday: Shadoweh presumably tracked Prof. Friday to no one N5
Aronis: Agar should have a report on Aronis for N6
Brian Skies: Agar tracked Brian Skies to no one N4, possible that Agar was jailkept by farside
CheeryDog: Shadoweh got a negative follow result on CheeryDog N4, also, has yellow goo

Venmar · Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:22 am

Quite sure it's Cheery at this point. Magua and MS cleared via AD, everyone else is cleared via AGar or Shadoweh.

I say this because the last scum cannot be permanently a ninja, as 1. blue goo has been on all kill targets but Juls (so thats the night ninja probably went off), and 2. the scum managed to get through a vest and my protect on Shadoweh, so they have somekind of a strongman ability. Therefore, last scum likely had somekind of a JOAT ability with Ninja and Strongman as part of the kit, even though is fucking overpowered imo >.>, and exhausted both by now.

Seriously, this means the last scum can only be Cheery or one of the people tracked on Night 5, which is only Friday since TIP (Agars target) is now dead.

Now that I think about it, scum might have ninja'd on Night 5 because the plan we made was going to track them that night? I have no idea if Friday was said person though.

Venmar · Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:40 am

Did she, what the fuck

;_;

Venmar · Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:49 am

So #FridayScum2012?