The only thing I will fix is a lack of scum bodies in the thread.In post 2050, Sakura Hana wrote:Also bork's slot has managed to stay in the null for day and a half, so i'm hoping Nacho can fix that.
I AM KAGURA
The only thing I will fix is a lack of scum bodies in the thread.In post 2050, Sakura Hana wrote:Also bork's slot has managed to stay in the null for day and a half, so i'm hoping Nacho can fix that.
mala i <3 you with all of my heartIn post 2164, Malakittens wrote:Nacho i hate you. TO U HOE :[
I want to sort you and u log on and then log off again w/o coming in here.
mala i <3 you with all of my heartIn post 2164, Malakittens wrote:Nacho i hate you. TO U HOE :[
I want to sort you and u log on and then log off again w/o coming in here.
you've been bad at reading me longer than i've been reading you, soooIn post 2231, zMuffinMan wrote:nacho's right to read me has been revoked for good
I was hoping that you'd be able to give me reasons that I wouldn't have to scroll through your ISO to read. I have no intention of reading your ISO since it won't help me get a read anyways, sooo.In post 2231, zMuffinMan wrote:obviously i thought he was the towniest fuck that ever towned. should be pretty obvious if you've read anything i've said about him. or you could just scroll up to 2203
I dunno. GiF seemed town in ISO, but I haven't seen town presence. Don't really have an opinion on Kagami.In post 2238, Malakittens wrote:Also requotingcuz he missed it~In post 2217, Malakittens wrote:Nacho give me thoughts on Kagami and GiF please. Mainly the former than the latter.
This seems crazy, not scummy.In post 2261, zMuffinMan wrote:stuff like questioning why a cop didn't investigate a miller, after calling them both town, then proceeded to suggest they were buddies (iirc)
This additionally doesn't seem very scummy.In post 2261, zMuffinMan wrote:awkward questions to me about what i thought of feirei's(your) vote-sticking stuff rather than questioning me about what i think of feirei(you).
PIM.In post 2345, Sakura Hana wrote:then stop lynching obvtown malakittens/notscience and propose something better then.
I think Feirei's opening is fairly townish. Hydra'ing with him was scum and convincing him to post was pretty difficult, and his opening is light, ballsy (particularly vote on Varsoon when he knew it would stick), light.In post 24, Feirei wrote:Varsoon is town.
Kagami's random miller claimstillbugs me, but I can write her off as town.
P-Edit: GiF's vote is now stuck on me. I prefer no one else votes me unless you'rereally sureI'm scum.
I don't really understand why the role is more likely to come from scum than town. You can say scum roles will generally be stronger than town roles because balance, but... knowing everyone's flavor isn't that cool? And multivoting is pretty spectacular, but the early out of multivoting means A) the scum use of hammering both wagons is pretty useless (even though it's not super great in the first place), and all he's doing is making everyone else hated. Which is also not that cool.In post 141, zMuffinMan wrote:compare it to the last touhou upick and the roles theresakura wrote:why is knowing everyone's flavor name not make sense as a town role?
i was a race cop who had to check race one by one each night; that is the sort of thing i'd expect in a town role, not what gif claimed
on the other hand, given this is fakegod and role madness, i could def see a scum role who can multivote and knows everyone's flavour
i don't really understand what the relevance of this is, so i'm just going to pretend i do and nod sagely :nod:bork wrote:If flavor is alignment independent I don't see how this follows
You never explained your suspicion on Varsoon early game.In post 214, Kagami wrote:There is a frozen flavor related to the sticking, and apparently feirei is immune to it since he too is freezy.
Kagami support of Muffin happened early, sustained a very long time.In post 274, Kagami wrote:Yep.In post 259, zMuffinMan wrote:kagami,
varsoon sorts itself out if gif is telling the truth about the spellcard he just used
who else do you think is scum?
I can't imagine that GIF is faking the spellcard, or that it does something that isn't protective. Only thing I find surprising is that he's not Yukari.
I don't have any especially strong alternative scumreads. I was thinking feirei as scum early on, which hasn't really faded, but the ability seems rather harsh to give to scum, and I think scum feirei would have been very motivated to claim immediately. If varsoon is scum, I was thinking ns town for being the first to doubt his towniness. I'm unsure about bork and RB. I think you're town; feels like titan muffin.
I felt the same way!In post 1048, zMuffinMan wrote:it stems from the conversation he had with me about pieguy, which gave me mild town vibes. the way he's analysing things looks townish.sakura wrote:btw @Muffin, why is Kagami a 'weaker' townread?
and ~reasons~ which may or may not resolve themselves in the near future
anyway, i'm going to step back here and look over this again with fresh eyes tomorrow.
1543 was realllllllly fucking shit, and two ironic things about it are: (a) even when i think i'm being really transparently fucking town, apparently i'm not, and (b) a large part of why i started scum reading nacho in that game is because he couldn't see how fucking transparently town i (thought i) was being and i thought he should have known better
*shrug*
This is already outed: protective roles in the house?In post 1726, borkjerfkin wrote:protect me and I guarantee that you live another day - but I need to know you're doing it first.
Whenever I want during night phase, whoops.In post 2618, Nachomamma8 wrote:Yeah I can choose to skip day phases whenever I want.
Which would be cool if we wanted to no lynch, but um
Yes. Are you the SK?In post 2619, fferyllt wrote:Have you read through the part of the game where Sakura said she would vig Victor?
Additionally, this is unacceptable.In post 2469, fferyllt wrote:I'm thinking about Magua and Nacho.
In post 943, borkjerfkin wrote:It's been a minor gut scumread that I couldn't quantify very well.Muffin wrote:is not town reading me equivocal to scum reading me
What if I'm town and I awaken the beast?In post 938, zMuffinMan wrote:some friendly advice though; let sleeping beasts lay dormant, because if you are scum and you awaken the beast, i am going to make this game thoroughly unenjoyable for you
VOTE: Muffin
This reeks of posturing on a read on me before I actually answer you/bullying me out of pushing you rather than actually trying to figure out why I'm thinking what I think.
What do you know about scum me, exactly? Because youMuffin wrote:coz i don't really know how town-you could think that, and i can see scum-you trying to capitalise on certain players' paranoia about me here.haven'tplayed with it, you've played with town me what, once? and you were scum and didn't even have to really analyze my thought process there because you knew I was town the whole time. So how the hell do you think you know what either version of me might or might not do?
Yeah, uh, the elephant in the room that you're ignoring was that it took a fucking cop guilty on you to really know that.Muffin wrote:and you played in/followed gif's touhou game where you correctly identified me as scum
I think I've been pretty forthcoming in various places (this game, gif's dead thread) that my thought to investigate you was pretty spur of the moment.
You know damn well that my scumread on you in that game was 1) pretty nebulous D1 and 2) reliant on the reads of two other people (something you also quoted here!)
And yeah, you've been in a few of my modded games (as both alignments). One of the things that is interesting about modded games is that I don't have to form a read on you becauseMuffin wrote:because i've played in three of your modded games start to finishI already know what you are(and even if I am reading the game, I'm not analyzing it to the point where I have solid meta on your game) I seriously don't understand when people use this as an excuse for why I should know you better than I do.
This game:
I didn't like your opening on GIF (89)
I don't get your trajectory on RB.
Your claim (don't target me with anything) isn't as specific as it should be (you can argue I'm trying to 'rolefish' or what the fuck ever, but if I were negative utility I'd be screaming to the high heavens about exactly what that negative utility is)
Has it been a strong read so far? No. I haven't tried to pretend it is.
But the way you're engaging me now is kinda garbage.